Geocentrism and the Quran: Difference between revisions

→‎Primary Evidence: correction regarding stars, and removed the verse citations that do not demonstrate a fixed heavens (see also scientific errors page talk re 35:41), which are not needed for this topic anyway
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# There is only one moon and one sun in the entire Qur'anic universe. The position of all these celestial bodies within this universe are clearly described in the Qur'an. For example, the heavens are above the earth, and the sun, moon and stars are within the heavens.<ref>"''Have you not seen how Allah created the seven heavens one above the other, setting in them the moon as a light and the sun as a lantern?''" - {{cite quran|71|15|end=16|style=ref}}</ref>
# There is only one moon and one sun in the entire Qur'anic universe. The position of all these celestial bodies within this universe are clearly described in the Qur'an. For example, the heavens are above the earth, and the sun, moon and stars are within the heavens.<ref>"''Have you not seen how Allah created the seven heavens one above the other, setting in them the moon as a light and the sun as a lantern?''" - {{cite quran|71|15|end=16|style=ref}}</ref>
# The Qur'an mentions heavenly bodies traveling in their own orbits (or more precisely, each in a rounded course, "falak"), but so do the concepts of day and night each have an orbit. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, though on the last day they will be joined together, which is rather suggestive of them orbiting the same body at a similar distance from us.
# The Qur'an mentions heavenly bodies traveling in their own orbits (or more precisely, each in a rounded course, "falak"), but so do the concepts of day and night each have an orbit. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, though on the last day they will be joined together, which is rather suggestive of them orbiting the same body at a similar distance from us.
# The heavens are firmly held in place lest they move from where they are and fall on the earth.<ref>{{cite quran|2|22|end=29|style=ref}}, {{Quran|35|41}}, {{Quran|21|104}}, {{Quran|17|92}}, and {{Quran|34|9}}</ref> Note that there is no mention of orbits for the heavens or the earth in the Qur'an. Their positions are fixed. An orbit is only mentioned for the sun and the moon. Not even the stars have an orbit, for they are as if hanging down from the heavens like a light bulb from the ceiling in a room.  
# The stars have settings (mawaqi) <ref>{{cite quran|56|75}}</ref>, but an orbit (falak - curved course) is only mentioned for the sun and the moon, and an orbit of the earth is never mentioned.


For the Qur'an to be scientific, it must contain accurate statements in regards to all that is visible i.e. material objects and phenomena. How can Allah appeal to such things as signs of his power and existence if he fails to make his case obvious?
For the Qur'an to be scientific, it must contain accurate statements in regards to all that is visible i.e. material objects and phenomena. How can Allah appeal to such things as signs of his power and existence if he fails to make his case obvious?
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