Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Predestination: Difference between revisions

→‎Allah knows children will become disbelievers: I have added a verse (and explanation) I believe shows predestination in Islam.
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(→‎Qur'an: Added in another verse implying a future action is already settled (people and jinn will 'surely' go to hell), and a link to a YouTube video covering this)
(→‎Allah knows children will become disbelievers: I have added a verse (and explanation) I believe shows predestination in Islam.)
 
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<b> 18:80 And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief.  
<b> 18:80 And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief.  
18:81 So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy. </b>}}
18:81 So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy. </b>}}
=== Abu Lahab and his wife were destined for hell ===
In this surah Allah knows Abu Lahab (allegedly a strong opponent of Muhammad) and his wife,<ref>[https://quranx.com/tafsirs/111.5 ''Tafsir Ibn Kathir on surah 111.''] Ibn Kathir d.1373</ref> will go to hell before they have died, making their actions beyond that point meaningless.
{{Quote|{{Quran|111|1-5}}|“Perished be the hands of Abu Lahab and ruined he be,
Neither his wealth nor what he has earned shall avail him.
He shall shortly roast in a flaming fire.
And his wife — laden with faggots, Shall have a rope of palm fiber round her neck.}}
This is also hard to square with the common notion that the Quran is eternal, as for this to make sense there would have always have had to have been an enemy of the prophet born at the same time with the same name, who's wife would also be an enemy, which makes one wonder how he could have been tested on Earth - though this would fit the Islamic concept of predestination/Qadar.<ref>''[https://islamqa.info/en/answers/34732/what-is-qadar-in-islam What Is Qadar in Islam?]'' Risalat Sharh Usul al-Iman by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymin. 2010. IslamQA.</ref> 
{{Quote|{{Quran|85|21-22}}|This is indeed the glorious Qur'an. in a preserved tablet}}


=== Allah knows people and jinn will disbelieve and go to hell ===
=== Allah knows people and jinn will disbelieve and go to hell ===
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