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:::'''"Only a person who thinks the sun runs on a semicircle over the other place(earth) would have said "bow.""'''  
:::'''"Only a person who thinks the sun runs on a semicircle over the other place(earth) would have said "bow.""'''  
:::You havn't shown that at all. Your reasoning is convoluted and ignores the obvious meaning. I would suggest sticking to hadiths that are clear errors rather than ones that need your interpretations. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 12:10, 6 April 2014 (PDT)
:::You havn't shown that at all. Your reasoning is convoluted and ignores the obvious meaning. I would suggest sticking to hadiths that are clear errors rather than ones that need your interpretations. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 12:10, 6 April 2014 (PDT)
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Saggy, so that we're clear this is the the hadith:
:Volume 4, Book 52, Number 51: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A place in Paradise as small as a bow is better than all that on which the sun rises and sets (i.e. all the world)." He also said, "A single endeavor in Allah's Cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all that on which the sun rises and sets."
Breaking it up, "X is better than Y".
X = "A place in Paradise as small as a bow." (a small sized object)
Y = "all that on which the sun rises and sets" (some kind of large space according to the Quran)
Your title was "Orbit of the Sun is comparable to a Bow". This is incorrect. The ''size'' of a bow is being compared to the size of the sun's place of rising and setting.
The hadith means "A tiny place in Islamic Heaven is better than a huge place which is not part of Heaven".
If you're talking about the arc of a bow (golden part [https://3dmagicmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/bow-and-arrow-3d-model1.jpg here] which is a semi circle) being compared to what an observer on Earth sees, this is not an error. We see that kind of semi-circle even today as we see the sun form an arc. A scientist can say "look how the Sun makes (or seems to make) a semi circle around the Earth". So these things can be explained. If you come across a hadith and you're not sure of the meaning you can ask us. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 12:46, 6 April 2014 (PDT)
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