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:It will take me some time to check out your very helpful suggestions, although I am familiar with most of the authors you mention.  In the meantime I think it would be useful to get the extra Crone reference and the Gibson/King debate into the existing article.  And questioning its assumption that Becca = Mecca.  What are the conventions about changing an existing article?
:It will take me some time to check out your very helpful suggestions, although I am familiar with most of the authors you mention.  In the meantime I think it would be useful to get the extra Crone reference and the Gibson/King debate into the existing article.  And questioning its assumption that Becca = Mecca.  What are the conventions about changing an existing article?
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::Sounds good. I'm an admin here and wrote a lot of the articles, but I'm not involved in the new user on-boarding process or what ASmith may have advised. I believe there are a bunch of pages via the New Contributors link on the sidebar explaining standards, how to add quote templates etc. An example of a recent newly expanded article which covers an academic debate is the one on Prophecies in the Quran, particularly the section on the Romans prophecy which has a good sprinkling of quotes and citations yet concise enough to hold the reader's interest. Normally new users are expected to make small simple edits to start with, so the gradual approach sounds ok to me. Our pending edits feature is currently broken so you won't have to wait for each edit to be approved. At some point when you've finished ASmith or I can tweak, add templates where necessary etc. [[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 22:20, 25 August 2023 (UTC) '''06/09/23'''
::Sounds good. I'm an admin here and wrote a lot of the articles, but I'm not involved in the new user on-boarding process or what ASmith may have advised. I believe there are a bunch of pages via the New Contributors link on the sidebar explaining standards, how to add quote templates etc. An example of a recent newly expanded article which covers an academic debate is the one on Prophecies in the Quran, particularly the section on the Romans prophecy which has a good sprinkling of quotes and citations yet concise enough to hold the reader's interest. Normally new users are expected to make small simple edits to start with, so the gradual approach sounds ok to me. Our pending edits feature is currently broken so you won't have to wait for each edit to be approved. At some point when you've finished ASmith or I can tweak, add templates where necessary etc. [[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 22:20, 25 August 2023 (UTC)  
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:Thanks again.
:Thanks again.
:Please find below a proposed expansion of the article on Mecca.  I have used ......... to indicate where the existing text will remain.  I would need to standardise the format of the references, and add more quotes from the Quran.  The endnotes have not come out very well.
:Please find below a proposed expansion of the article on Mecca.  I have used ......... to indicate where the existing text will remain.  I would need to standardise the format of the references, and add more quotes from the Quran.  The endnotes have not come out very well.  I have already added a few references to the existing article.
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==== Problems with Mecca as the birthplace of Islam to repace 'Dearth of archaeological evidence' ====
==== Problems with Mecca as the birthplace of Islam to repace '<s>Dearth of archaeological evidence</s>' ====
Traditionally, Mecca is assumed to be the birthplace of Islam.  Starting with Abraham, who founded Al-Masjid-al-Haram, the Mosque of the sanctuary, the House of God, or the Ka’bah, the cube, which holds the Black Stone.  The holiness which was confirmed by the prophet Muhammad, who was born and worked in Mecca, and started his preaching career in the city.
Traditionally, Mecca is assumed to be the birthplace of Islam.  Starting with Abraham, who founded Al-Masjid-al-Haram, the Mosque of the sanctuary, the House of God, or the Ka’bah, the cube, which holds the Black Stone.  The holiness which was confirmed by the prophet Muhammad, who was born and worked in Mecca, and started his preaching career in the city.


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