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→‎Methods: I have added a quick section on responses specially to Bucaille to bring to life some of the absurd methods he uses to claim foretold science. I've also linked a response book to this to demonstrate these 'miracles' are highly debated.
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(→‎Methods: I have added a quick section on responses specially to Bucaille to bring to life some of the absurd methods he uses to claim foretold science. I've also linked a response book to this to demonstrate these 'miracles' are highly debated.)
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{{Quote||The commission drew the scientists to its conferences with first-class plane tickets for them and their wives, rooms at the best hotels, $1,000 honoraria, and banquets with Muslim leaders — such as a palace dinner in Islamabad with Pakistani President Mohammed Zia ul-Haq shortly before he was killed in a plane crash. Ahmed also gave at least one scientist a crystal clock.<ref name="StrBedfel"/> }}


Scientists complained of having fallen into a "trap" in interviews, or of "mutual manipulation" by the scientists and fundamentalists. Even the man who had been the Bucailleists most enthusiastic supporter, embryologist [[Dr. Keith Moore|Keith L. Moore]] who had an edition of his textbook financed by Bucailleists and co-written with Sheikh Abdul Majeed Zindani,  declined to be interviewed and told the newspaper, “it’s been 10 or 11 years since I was involved in the Quran.” <ref name="StrBedfel" />
Scientists complained of having fallen into a "trap" in interviews, or of "mutual manipulation" by the scientists and fundamentalists. Even the man who had been the Bucailleists most enthusiastic supporter, embryologist [[Dr. Keith Moore|Keith L. Moore]] who had an edition of his textbook financed by Bucailleists and co-written with Sheikh Abdul Majeed Zindani,  declined to be interviewed and told the newspaper, “it’s been 10 or 11 years since I was involved in the Quran.” <ref name="StrBedfel" /> He (Keith L. Moore) also confirmed that he was not a Muslim.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IObOzMAQ3hI</ref>
 
=== Responses ===
''Main article: [[Scientific Miracles in the Quran]]''
 
"Bucailleists" also present these claims as if there are no objections, counter arguments or other interpretations. For example in his article '[http://www.islam101.com/science/space.html The conquest of space]'  Bucaillie presents the following verses as 'proof' the Quran predicted space travel:
{{Quote|{{quran|55|33}}|O assembly of Jinns and Men, if you can penetrate regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate them!}}{{Quote|{{Quran|15|14-15}}|14. If We were even to open for them a way to the heavens, and they could continually climb up to it in broad daylight,
15. they would still have said: "Surely our eyes have been dazzled; rather, we have been enchanted."}}
Going as far to say '<nowiki/>''.''.''one expresses, without any trace of ambiguity, what man should and will achieve in this field..''<nowiki/>' and '''..it is difficult not to be impressed, when comparing the text of the Qur'an to the data of modern science, by statements that simply cannot be ascribed to the thought of a man who lived more than fourteen centuries ago..''<nowiki/>' Ignoring all previous [https://quranx.com/tafsirs/55.33 commentaries] on the verse with much simpler explanations. A full analysis can be found [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Conquest_of_Space#cite_note-9 here].
 
And even outright making up new meanings to fit modern science. For example in his response book '[https://archive.org/details/quran-bible-campbell/%5BDr_William_Campbell%5D_The_Qur%27an_and_the_Bible_in_%28z-lib.org%29/page/183/mode/2up The Quran and the Bible in the light of history and science]', Dr William Campbell, a Christian apologist defending the Gospels, here writing what he believes is a full refutation of Maurice's books and methods, and points out that Maurice argues against the standard translation of [https://quranx.com/86.5 Quran 86:5-7]:
{{Quote|{{Quran|86|5-7}}|5. So let man observe from what he was created.
6. He was created from a fluid, ejected,
7. Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs.}}
Which seemingly repeats incorrect theories about reproduction at the time, by quoting a high-ranking Muslim doctor for the 'correct' way to understand the verse, giving Arabic words a new meaning not containing any previous dictionary or literature, as William Campbell states below:
{{Quote|'The Quran and the Bible in the light of history and science'. William F. Campbell. Middle East Resources. 1993. PP183 - 184.|<i>'...and am indebted to Doctor A. K Giraud, Former Professor at the Faculty of Medicine, Beruit, for the following:
' (Man was fashioned from a liquid poured out. it issued (as a result) of the conjunction of the sexual area of the man and the sexual area of the woman.'
"The sexual area of the man is indicated in the text of the Qur'an by the word 'sulb' (singular). The sexual areas of the woman are designated in the Qur'an by the word 'tara'ib' (plural).
"This is the translation which appears to be the most satisfactory." </i>
 
When compared however, with the five translations quoted above, it is clear that Dr Bucaille's suggestion is not a translation, nor even a paraphrase. it is an 'explanation' and 'interpretation' which rests on the following basic assumptions:
a. <b>That the world 'sulb' can stand for the male sexual area. Though no examples of such as usage from the 1st century for Islam have been given.</b>
b. That the phrase '(as a result) of the conjunction' can be found in the two Arabic words 'min ban' which literally mean 'from between'.
c. That the word 'tara'ib' can mean 'the sexual areas of the woman'.
This last word occurs exactly one time in the Qur'an and you cannot establish a meaning with one usage. The dictionaries of Wehr, Abdel-Nour and Kasimirski mentions (a) the chest, (b) the upper part of the chest between the breasts and clavicles, and (c) the ribs, and Abdel-Nour includes (d) the euphemistic extension to the breasts. It can also include the neck up to the chin and speak poetically of the area for a woman's necklace.
<b>No dictionary includes the female genital area, and Dr Bucaille has given no examples from literature to support his idea.</b> He seems to be fulfilling his own complain against other. he is trying to 'camouflage' (his problems with dialectical acrobatics".}}


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