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WikiIslam:Sandbox/Islam also says Adam came 6000 years ago

2014-11-17T13:30:28Z

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Science has found human fossils which are about 200,000 years old. This scientific discovery seriously challenging the fact that Adam was the first human. Therefore, Muslims have to avoid this challenge and thus they make lame excuses that Islam does not tell when Adam came.
Similarly, Muslim claim that Adam was 30 meters long and after him human started to reduce in size till Muhammad. But then we have fossils of Mummy's and others which are 5000 to 200,000 years and none of them is like 30 meters long. Therefore, once again Muslims have to deny that Adam came 6000 years.

== Proofs from Quran & Sunnah that Adam came 6,000 years ago ==

Saudi Official Fatwa Website [http://islamqa.info/en/20907 islamqa.info] gave authentic Traditions about times between different prophets from Muhammad to Adam.

1) Jesus and Muhammad: 600 years (Reference: Bukhari)

2) Adam and Noah: 10 Centuries i.e. 1000 years (Reference: Sahih Ibn Habban and Imam Hakim which is authentic according to [http://islamqa.info/en/20907 islamqa.info])

3) Noah and Ibraheem: 10 Centuries (Reference: Same tradition as above about Adam and Noah in Mustadrak al-Hakim, which is authentic according to [http://islamqa.info/en/20907 islamqa.info])

4) Moses and Jesus: 1700 years (al-Tabqaat and Fath-ul-Bari, which is authentic according to [http://islamqa.info/en/20907 islamqa.info])

5) Ibraheem and Moses:
Bible says it was 245 years gap between these 2 prophets. And bible tells the genealogy between them as: '''Abraham-Jacob-Levi-Kohath-Amran(Imran)-Moses''' (i.e. 5 generations)

Islam gives the same genealogy. Ibn Kathir and {{Tabari||}} recorded this [http://library.islamweb.net/hadith/display_hbook.php?hflag=1&bk_no=334&pid=156427 tradition].

قد ذكرنا أولاد يعقوب , إسرائيل الله , وعددهم وموالدهم ، فحَدَّثَنَا ابن حميد ، قَالَ : حَدَّثَنَا سلمة بن الفضل ، عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ إسحاق ، قَالَ : " ثم إن لاوى بن يعقوب نكح نابتة ابنة ماري بن يشخر ، فولدت له : غرشون بن لاوى ومرزى بن لاوى ومردى بن لاوى وقاهث بن لاوى ، فنكح قاهث بن لاوى فاهى ابنة مسين بن بتويل بن إلياس ، فولدت له : يصهر بن قاهث ومردي ، فتزوج يصهر شميث ابنة بتاديد بن بركيا بن يقسان بن إبراهيم ، فولدت له : عمران بن يصهر ، وقارون بن يصهر , فنكح عمران يحيب ابنة شمويل بن بركيا بن يقسان بن إبراهيم ، فولدت له : هارون بن عمران ، وموسى بن عمران

Therefore, if we take one generation between 40 to 50 years, then it makes the 200 to 250 years (same as Bible which states 245 years).

If we all these, then even according to Islam too Adam came about 6,000 years.

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WikiIslam:Sandbox/Why Islam has only "Physical" punishments & not Imprisonment?

2014-11-16T04:43:32Z

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Have you ever pondered that there are only "Barbaric Physical" punishments in Islam & no imprisonment?
For example:
* Theft (Sariqa, السرقة): Punishment is cutting hands
* Highway robbery (Qat' al-Tariq, قطع الطريق): Punishment is amputation of hands or feet
* Illegal sexual intercourse (Zina', الزنا): Punishment is Flogging
* False accusation of zina (Qadhf, القذف)[3]: Punishment is Flogging
* Drinking alcohol (Shurb al-Khamr, شرب الخمر): Punishment is Flogging
* Apostasy (Irtidād or Ridda, ارتداد أو ردّه): Punishment is Flogging

Why only physical punishments?

== Answer: ==
Prophet Muhammad came in the Arab Society, which was very backward and there were no prisons there. Therefore, Muhammad's vision was not beyond this in case of awarding punishments for these crimes.

Afterwards Muslims got victories and Islamic Caliphate became very rich and they also got the prisons, but these "barbaric physical punishments" didn't change in the name of "Sharia" i.e. Islamic Law till today.

Muslims claim that only Allah has the right to make Sharia (Islamic Laws), and only Allah has the right to change them. If any human being or Islamic State try to amend any Sharia Laws, then they will become apostate themselves. They believe, since the Sharia brought by Muhammad was the last Sharia, therefore it's rules are not going to be changed till Judgement Day.

This is the reason we see all these barbaric Physical Punishments still being carried out even today after 14 centuries of demise of Prophet Muhammad.

=== Same physical punishment for bigger or smaller crime ===

If you have stolen millions of dollars from Bank, then your punishment is cutting of hands. But if one has stolen small things of 1/4th of Dinar price (like a pair of shoes, clothes etc.), then again his hands are going to be cut off. So Islam is not distinguishing between bigger or smaller crime while giving these barbaric physical punishments.

Also remember that Islam does not allows the State to forgive the punishment of theft & fornication & apostasy etc. This means once you have been caught stealing, then no one can save you from the physical punishment and you have absolutely no chance to repent. This makes it super dangerous Barbaric religion.

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WikiIslam:Sandbox/Why Islam has only "Physical" punishments & not Imprisonment?

2014-11-16T04:41:28Z

جبرئیل:

Have you ever pondered that there are only "Barbaric Physical" punishments in Islam & no imprisonment?
For example:
* Theft (Sariqa, السرقة): Punishment is cutting hands
* Highway robbery (Qat' al-Tariq, قطع الطريق): Punishment is amputation of hands or feet
* Illegal sexual intercourse (Zina', الزنا): Punishment is Flogging
* False accusation of zina (Qadhf, القذف)[3]: Punishment is Flogging
* Drinking alcohol (Shurb al-Khamr, شرب الخمر): Punishment is Flogging
* Apostasy (Irtidād or Ridda, ارتداد أو ردّه): Punishment is Flogging

Why only physical punishments?

== Answer: ==
Prophet Muhammad came in the Arab Society, which was very backward and there were no prisons there. Therefore, Muhammad's vision was not beyond this in case of awarding punishments for these crimes.

Afterwards Muslims got victories and Islamic Caliphate became very rich and they also got the prisons, but these "barbaric physical punishments" didn't change in the name of "Sharia" i.e. Islamic Law till today.

Muslims claim that only Allah has the right to make Sharia (Islamic Laws), and only Allah has the right to change them. If any human being or Islamic State try to amend any Sharia Laws, then they will become apostate themselves. They believe, since the Sharia brought by Muhammad was the last Sharia, therefore it's rules are not going to be changed till Judgement Day.

This is the reason we see all these barbaric Physical Punishments still being carried out even today after 14 centuries of demise of Prophet Muhammad.

=== Same physical punishment for bigger or smaller crime ===

If you have stolen millions of dollars from Bank, then your punishment is cutting of hands. But if one has stolen small things of 1/4th of Dinar price (like a pair of shoes, clothes etc.), then again his hands are going to be cut off. So Islam is not distinguishing between bigger or smaller crime while giving these barbaric physical punishments.

Also remember that Islam does not allows the State to forgive the punishment of theft & fornication & apostasy etc. This means once you have been caught stealing, then no one can save you from the physical punishment and you have absolutely no chance to repent. This makes it super dangerous Barbaric religion.

[[Category:Islamic Law]]
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WikiIslam:Sandbox/Why Islam has only "Physical" punishments & not Imprisonment?

2014-11-16T04:39:29Z

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WikiIslam:Sandbox/Why Islam has only "Physical" punishments & not Imprisonment?

2014-11-16T04:27:54Z

جبرئیل:

Have you ever pondered that there are only "Barbaric Physical" punishments in Islam & no imprisonment?
For example:
* Theft (Sariqa, السرقة): Punishment is cutting hands
* Highway robbery (Qat' al-Tariq, قطع الطريق): Punishment is amputation of hands or feet
* Illegal sexual intercourse (Zina', الزنا): Punishment is Flogging
* False accusation of zina (Qadhf, القذف)[3]: Punishment is Flogging
* Drinking alcohol (Shurb al-Khamr, شرب الخمر): Punishment is Flogging
* Apostasy (Irtidād or Ridda, ارتداد أو ردّه): Punishment is Flogging

Why only physical punishments?

== Answer: ==
Prophet Muhammad came in the Arab Society, which was very backward and there were no prisons there. And Prophet Muhammad followed this culture in this case.

Afterwards Muslims got victories and Islamic Caliphate became very rich and they also got the prisons, but these "barbaric physical punishments" didn't change in the name of "Sharia" i.e. Islamic Law till today.

Muslims claim that only Allah has the right to make Sharia (Islamic Laws), and only Allah has the right to change them. If any human being or Islamic State try to amend any Sharia Laws, then they will become apostate themselves. They believe, since the Sharia brought by Muhammad was the last Sharia, therefore it's rules are not going to be changed till Judgement Day.

This is the reason we see all these barbaric Physical Punishments still being carried out even today after 14 centuries of demise of Prophet Muhammad.

=== Same physical punishment for bigger or smaller crime ===

If you have stolen millions of dollars from Bank, then your punishment is cutting of hands. But if one has stolen small things of 1/4th of Dinar price (like a pair of shoes, clothes etc.), then again his hands are going to be cut off. So Islam is not distinguishing between bigger or smaller crime while giving these barbaric physical punishments.

Also remember that Islam does not allows the State to forgive the punishment of theft & fornication & apostasy etc. This means once you have been caught stealing, then no one can save you from the physical punishment and you have absolutely no chance to repent. This makes it super dangerous Barbaric religion.

[[Category:Islamic Law]]

WikiIslam:Sandbox/Why Islam has only "Physical" punishments & not Imprisonment?

2014-11-16T04:25:47Z

جبرئیل:

Have you ever pondered that there are only "Barbaric Physical" punishments in Islam & no imprisonment?
For example:
* Theft (Sariqa, السرقة): Punishment is cutting hands
* Highway robbery (Qat' al-Tariq, قطع الطريق): Punishment is amputation of hands or feet
* Illegal sexual intercourse (Zina', الزنا): Punishment is Flogging
* False accusation of zina (Qadhf, القذف)[3]: Punishment is Flogging
* Drinking alcohol (Shurb al-Khamr, شرب الخمر): Punishment is Flogging
* Apostasy (Irtidād or Ridda, ارتداد أو ردّه): Punishment is Flogging

Why only physical punishments?

== Answer: ==
Prophet Muhammad came in the Arab Society, which was very backward and there were no prisons there. And Prophet Muhammad followed this culture in this case.

Afterwards Muslims got victories and Islamic Caliphate became very rich and they also got the prisons, but these "barbaric physical punishments" didn't change in the name of "Sharia" i.e. Islamic Law till today.

Muslims claim that only Allah has the right to make Sharia (Islamic Laws), and only Allah has the right to change them. If any human being or Islamic State try to amend any Sharia Laws, then they will become apostate themselves. They believe, since the Sharia brought by Muhammad was the last Sharia, therefore it's rules are not going to be changed till Judgement Day.

This is the reason we see all these barbaric Physical Punishments still being carried out even today after 14 centuries of demise of Prophet Muhammad.

=== Same physical punishment for bigger or smaller crime ===

If you have stolen millions of dollars from Bank, then your punishment is cutting of hands. But if one has stolen small things of 1/4th of Dinar price (like a pair of shoes, clothes etc.), then again his hands are going to be cut off. So Islam is not distinguishing between bigger or smaller crime while giving these barbaric physical punishments.

Also remember that Islam does not allows the State to forgive the punishment of theft & fornication & apostasy etc. This means once you have been caught stealing, then no one can save you from the physical punishment and you have absolutely no chance to repent. This makes it super dangerous Barbaric religion.

WikiIslam:Sandbox/Why Islam has only "Physical" punishments & not Imprisonment?

2014-11-15T21:23:24Z

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Have you ever pondered that there are only "Barbaric Physical" punishments in Islam & no imprisonment?

* Theft (Sariqa, السرقة): Punishment is cutting hands
* Highway robbery (Qat' al-Tariq, قطع الطريق): Punishment is amputation of hands or feet
* Illegal sexual intercourse (Zina', الزنا): Flogging
* False accusation of zina (Qadhf, القذف)[3]: Flogging
* Drinking alcohol (Shurb al-Khamr, شرب الخمر): Flogging
* Apostasy (Irtidād or Ridda, ارتداد أو ردّه): Flogging

Why only physical punishments?

== Answer: ==
Prophet Muhammad came in the Arab Society, which was very backward and there were no prisons there. And Prophet Muhammad followed this culture in case of "Hudood"(حدود) i.e. fixed punishments.

Afterwards Muslims got victories and Islamic Caliphate became very rich and they also got the prisons, but these "barbaric physical punishments" didn't change in the name of "Sharia" i.e. Islamic Law till today.

Muslims claim that only Allah has the right to make Sharia (Islamic Laws), and only Allah has the right to change them. If any human being or Islamic State try to amend any Sharia Laws, then they will become apostate themselves. They believe, since the Sharia brought by Muhammad was the last Sharia, therefore it's rules are not going to be changed till Judgement Day.

This is the reason we still see all these barbaric Physical Punishments still being carried out today after 14 centuries of demise of Prophet Muhammad.

=== Same physical punishment for bigger or smaller crime ===

If you have stolen millions of dollars from Bank, then your punishment is cutting of hands. But if one has stolen 1/4th of Dinar thing (like a pair of boats), then again his hands are going to be cut off. So Islam is not distinguishing between bigger or smaller crime.

While our modern era is much better where it differentiates between bigger and smaller crimes and award punishments accordingly.

Also remember that Islam does not allows the State to forgive the punishment of thief. This means once you have been caught stealing, then no one can save you from the punishment and you have absolutely no chance to repent. This makes it super dangerous Barbaric religion.