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2014-10-24T23:15:33Z

PW. Jansen:

==Thanks==
Thanks for your additions on that QHS page for Characteristics [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&action=history] and welcome to the site. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:51, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
:For your edit [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&curid=5621&diff=109317&oldid=109310 here], there's probably some others on that page that could also quality for what Allah thinks e.g.:
:: ''For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe.''
:So I guess the other 'Allah' ones could be moved to the new section or, have all of them in one big section like we had before. Not sure which one is the best. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:03, 18 August 2014 (PDT)
::If these existing sections were renamed "Allah thinks...." they would lose much of their impact and they would be IMO pretty inaccurate. In Islam, Allah is the law. If he thinks something, then it simply is. So, to Muslims in general, it's not simply "Allah thinks Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures," it is literally "Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures". [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:48, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

I agree with Sahab, but we do also write for non-Muslims who do not understand that "what Allah thinks" is equal to "it is". A line to explain this would help. Non-Muslims will look for the literal text. I will work on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 

:Ok we wont do it then. I'm also thinking its difficult to decide what the difference is for the verses where Allah thinks and where its the other case so yes, just keep it like that. Could you re-adjust the verses to flow with the rest of the content? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:41, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

::Jansen, you seemed to have missed the message above this one where Axius suggests that you replace the page to its original format (i.e. "Non-Muslims are.."). But, never-mind, I have done that myself.

::As I noted on my edit summaries, no need for adding <nowiki>*</nowiki> before a repeated verse because there will already be several QHS pages that repeat the same verses. But this is not a problem and does not need to be pointed out if the section that it is being repeated in focuses on a different aspect of those same verses. Another point you seemed to have missed is that your additions (worded as they are) have little to do with the subject matter of the page. Rather than remove them completely, I have moved them (with a few changes) to a more suitable page[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Non-Muslims#Allah]. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:14, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

==Leap year==
All I understood is that altering months of a calendar is forbidden. That is the Ramadan calendar. Which calendar is used for agriculture, the 365 days one? Is the gap of 10 or 11 days because of that leap year day (Feb 29)? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:24, 20 August 2014 (PDT)
:hi PW. Jansen, regarding [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Axius&diff=109322&oldid=109321 this] I'll reply here for continuity. Is there a Quranic verse for the calender issue? That could be used in the Scientific errors in the Quran article. In any case there could be a separate article on this. There could be information from Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_calendar lunar year] and/or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar Islamic calendar] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar#History History] section). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 07:36, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Thanks, I am not that familiar with the Wiki communication features so something may be rather inefficient. The Koranic verse here is 9:37: Verily the transposing (of a prohibited month) is an addition to Unbelief: the Unbelievers are led to wrong thereby: for they make it lawful one year, and forbidden another year, in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allah and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their course seems pleasing to them. But Allah guideth not those who reject Faith. 
Traditionally the Arab added a month every so many years to synchronize sun and moon calendar. This a rather coarse way but sun and moon calendar don't get out of synch completely like is the case now. see: http://islam.about.com/cs/calendar/a/hijrah_calendar.htm for the current one. For the older one e.g. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20837003?uid=3737536&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104072781421 (PW. Jansen)
:I read the link. So the old Arab calendar was replaced by a strict lunar calendar hence there is shortfall of 10 or 11 days from the 365-day year. Now can you clarify the error you found? Are you saying that a leap year situation should have been considered? And when, while creating this lunar calendar? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:39, 21 August 2014 (PDT)

Hi, My point is that Muhammad does not understand what it is for, and now the Muslims have to use two calendars, one for Ramadan (the lunar calendar imposed by Muhammad) and one for agriculture ( the solar calendar).
Quote from PDF:Calendars are basically of two types: lunar or non-lunar. Lunar calendars have months based on the cycle of the phases of the moon (the synodic month, ca. 29.53 days). Twelve lunar months will total an average of about 354 days and are thus roughly 11 days shorter than the true solar (tropical or sidereal) year of 365.2422 days. Most of the nations of the ancient world used lunisolar calendars, where the difference between the lunar and the solar year is compensated by periodically intercalating a thirteenth month. Non-lunar calendars are based on notional "months" with a fixed number of days and make no attempt to keep pace with the phases of the moon.
Link: https://cmes.uchicago.edu/sites/cmes.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/Middle%20Eastern%20Calendars.pdf

:We cant accuse Muhammad in the Scientific Errors in Qur'an article. The calendar clearly has some tiff. But it is a case of lack of explanation which Ax had said is not a scientific error. So if it is not meant for that article (decide), I have another place in the making [[WikiIslam:Sandbox/Logical Errors and Other Issues in the Qur'an]]. I think you should insert your point, with the verse. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:34, 25 August 2014 (PDT) For the boats, there is 31:31 already at the bottom of the sc. errors article. But i think the most blatant is 17.066 and 42:32 upto 34. So u may add them over there. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:55, 25 August 2014 (PDT) You can check for more errors in [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith]]. They are pending review. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 08:05, 25 August 2014 (PDT)

== "Pray to Muhammad" ==

Hi Jansen. I've removed the "[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Theology&diff=prev&oldid=109359 Pray to Muhammad]" section you added to "Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Islamic Theology". There were several problems:

1. The page is about Islamic theology, not Allah. Your comment about "One wonders, who answers Allah's prayers," shifts the focus from Muslim beliefs onto Allah's characteristics.

2. There is a big difference between "sending blessings" onto someone and praying to someone. A quick Google search brings up some interesting stuff, e.g. [http://www.hcna.us/columns/blessing.html]. Without reading anything about it, it is common sense to most, even outside an Islamic perspective, that being "blessed by God/gods" does not equate to being prayed to by God/gods. I've also heard this argument before. In fact others have tried to add it here and there in the past and it has always been removed. It is not an accurate criticism of Allah/Islam so does not belong here.

3. Even if we accepted the argument, we would not word it in the way you did. We try to approach things in a professional manner, so the sarcastic tone is not welcome.

I'm not on here very often now, but if you have any questions, I'll gladly answer them when I can. Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 21:26, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Okay I get it. I was confused by a Dutch translation which said literally "prayers of blessing" and I thought it depended on the translation. The verse is (IMHO) relevant because explains why Muslims refer to prophet Muhammad with pbuh.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 17:31, 21 August 2014 (PDT)
:No it is not relevant. That page is there to explain some of the major theology so people better understand how Muslims approach their texts (Qur'an, Hadith and Sunnah). Something as insignificant as the use of (PBUH) does not qualify. In fact that verse on its own explains little. All it says it to respect him, but a religious group being told to respect its founder is hardly illuminating. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:28, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

== New additions/reviews ==

I have made a section ''Changes in calendar'' in my sandbox. You might want to add all that comes to your mind from the forbidden 1 month to the leap year day. I listed more errors. if you find them correct, we will tell admins to add them. 
(Addition Jansen: I presume this was said by [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith ]] at 03:14, 29 August 2014 by WikiIslam user )
I would add that because of this change Ramadan shifts every year, 10 to 11 days earlier, and keeps shifting. And because of this change Muhammad made Muslims needed a separate calendar for agriculture. FYI I have no knowledge of the Hadith, I have a manuscript on the morals of Muhammad as comes forward in the Qur'an, and was not focused on scientific errors. 
I found these missing about the sky [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#Sky_is_a_Tent.2FDome|Link]] 

17:92 "Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou sayest (will happen), against us; or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face: 
22:65 Seest thou not that Allah has made subject to you (men) all that is on the earth, and the ships that sail through the sea by His Command? He withholds the sky (rain) from failing on the earth except by His leave: for Allah is Most Kind and Most Merciful to man. 
26:187 "Now cause a piece of the sky to fall on us, if thou art truthful!" 
31:10 He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.
(You might be tempted to use the last one as nonsense on "pairs" but I found translations differ widely on this point.) 
50:6 Do they not look at the sky above them?- How We have made it and adorned it, and there are no flaws in it? 
52:44 Were they to see a piece of the sky falling (on them), they would (only) say: "Clouds gathered in heaps!" 
 
Together with the ones already in there are so many it deserves a separate header. Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?

About the flat earth, the following are missing on the [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#The_Earth_is_Flat|scientific errors page]]: 
13:3 And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider! 
15:19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance. 
51:48 And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out! 
79:30 notice how much the translations differ: 
YUSUFALI: And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); 
PICKTHAL: And after that He spread the earth, 
SHAKIR: And the earth, He expanded it after that. 
Again: Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?
--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 00:07, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:When replying, add one colon before you start the paragraph. If there is already somebody else's reply, every next reply must add one more colon. No need to write your name in the first sentence. You don't need any special knowledge of hadith. Just start reading and searching them for any topic. About sky: I think 22:65 should be in the same sky section but not Yusuf ali's words. Pickthall and shakir are correct because they dont write "rain" and it is not in the Arabic text. "Pillars" and "A piece of sky can fall on them" is present. Adding the same verses if they dont strengthen the article? Not sure but I was discouraged from doing it. Some sections will have a rolling list of verses. There is variety in the added sky verses so that each of them strengthen the claim of sky being a solid dome over earth. [[Flat Earth and the Quran]] article has most of the flat verses with Arabic word meanings. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:57, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
::Ok, so there is a much more extensive page on the flat earth, but not a cross link from the scientific errors page. About completeness or not I prefer to be complete. It is after all supposed to be an encyclopedia. And you avoid discussions what verse should be cited. And when it is not about science but priorities one can get a better sense of what is important in the Quran. But I don't set the standard here. I think YUSUFALI was not a good choice as the main reference for wikiislam, he differs significantly from most other translators. It seems he tried to create something more acceptable. But I also realize that any choice has its problems and controversy. When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this? Since it is, I think rightly, practice here to cite only one translation here: YUSUFALI.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:54, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:::1. There is a cross-link right there, under the heading, "[[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#The_Earth_is_Flat|The Earth is Flat]]". Click on the link and see for yourself (it quite clearly says, "Main Article: Flat Earth and the Qur'an").
:::2. When has this site claimed it was only an encyclopaedia? As the [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines|policies]] state, "''WikiIslam is not restricted to only being an encyclopedia of Islam. It is there for editors to make use of in contributing and arranging information about Islam in many ways. For example, compiling news, translating media, making lists, collecting images and videos, counter-apologetics, hosting online books and other documents, and so on.''"

:::A list of scientific errors in the Qur'an is clearly not intended to be an Encyclopedic page. Every page has its own requirements. Yes, that page should aim be a "complete" list, but it was never meant to contain a comprehensive analysis of each entry. If it did, that page would be outrageously lengthy and the resulting wall of text would pretty much turn everyone away. That is left to the cross-linked stand-alone pages.

:::3. A quick look through the FAQ (something that all editors should really try at least once), would show that you are in error. If you look under, "[[WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#Sources Used|Sources Used]]," it says, "'''''What Qur'an translation do you use?''' Unless otherwise stated, we use the respected and widely accepted translations of Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthal or M. H. Shakir. All Qur'an quotes are taken from the University of Southern California Muslim Students Association's Compendium of Muslim Texts.''"

:::The Pickthal and Shakir translations are both very good translations. Those three were chosen because they are the most readily available and accepted. What is the point of quoting the Qur'an if Muslims won't even accept the translations used? None whatsoever. All that is asked of the editor is to limit his use of translations to one per section/error, since using multiple translations in a single section may appear disingenuous. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 00:35, 8 September 2014 (PDT)

::::To Sahab, indeed I overlooked that link looking in the sky part. About the translation used here in wiki the part chronological order [[Chronological_Order_of_the_Qur'an]]shows the YusufAli translation and this one is here often used when quoted here. I know the standard link is to three translations. Perhaps you can answer my question "When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this?" and with this I mean not quoting from YusufAli but from the other two. Just mention the translator like this?
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|5}}|PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. }}
::::As far as completeness is concerned this does not only matter scientific errors. The answer Saggy got was more or less the answer you gave me about Zakat quotes. We simply disagree on this. And as I stated I realize I do not set the standard here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:15, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

:::::Hardly, Jansen. The answer Saggy received concerning scientific errors and the answer I gave you concerning Zakat quotes were definitely not "more or less" the same. If they were, then please enlighten me on how it was so.

:::::One page (Zakat) had a particular point to make (about non-Muslims and terrorism) and your suggestion of having all the mundane verses mentioned simply to point out the fact that Allah (aka Prophet Muhammad) asked often for money, and rarely for good causes, would have buried it underneath something that belongs in an essay. The other page (scientific errors) is meant as a quick and easy-to-read list of errors that can lead off to more in-depth pages. Making them "complete" with all verses, even tafsir, hadith etc. as some editors have tried, would leave the list no longer "quick and easy-to-read."

:::::Yeah, I'm still not seeing how my answers were "more or less" the same, unless you're referring to the fact that I basically said "no" to both suggestions. We do not "simply disagree." I've fully explained why your ideas are wrong for this site. And it is not an issue of ''standards''. I can assure you that no one sets standards higher here than I do. It is a matter of appropriateness, style, usefulness, intent and a whole lot of other factors.

:::::Concerning your translation query, if the quoted translation is one of the three, then there is no need to mention it at all. That verse you quoted is pretty much the same across all three. If there does happen to be a massive difference in meaning for a certain verse, then it's probably best to bring the issue up with Axius. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 04:43, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

== Heaven organized ==
I made a new page in my dir and I want to organize what heavenly promises are made in the Qur'an
[[User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven in the Qur'an]]
:If you want to fill just quotes and no content of your own, there is a QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. Why not organise there? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 13:55, 9 September 2014 (PDT)
::The page I made was initially a copy/paste from that page, but I noticed I too easily create irritation. So let someone have a look at it first and then copy/paste it to that page QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. I made it to replace that page. There were only a few quotes added. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:48, 10 September 2014 (PDT)
I saw your email now. For one [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven_in_the_Qur%27an#Furniture], this verse is listed in the Furniture section:
:''And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- ''
Your organization effort is nice but I think its far from complete due to the fact that I found this verse in the furniture section (this is a serious error as this verse deserves to be in another new section such as .. "Carnal Pleasures", for example) and this certain verse is the kind that we would want to highlight. So yea I think its a great effort to create those headings but you could re-think what kind of sections you want to have. There are many Heaven related verses so we have to decide what we want to show, why we want to show it and how.

The other thing is that this page only contains Quranic verses and we know that a lot of good stuff is found in Hadiths, or scholar quotes. For example see source #15 [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Numbers_of_Islam#cite_note-15 here]. That source may have additional quotes on Heaven so you could search "Mishkat al-Masabih Paradise and Hell" for example or just "Mishkat al-Masabih".

[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness QHS:Silliness] has some for example [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#A_Tree_which_is_25.5_million_miles_wide tree], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Islamic_Heaven:_.22appetizing_vaginas.22_and_.22ever-erect.22_penises this of course], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Believers_will_enter_paradise_even_if_they_have_had_illegal_sexual_intercourse_or_committed_theft believers will enter ...]. etc.

So its a pretty big project making this page complete or better. I know the present shape of the page is also about the same as yours (except for the headings issue) but its a nice important page. If we can find all the Carnal/Ridiculous/Funny issues for Islamic heaven, thats what I'd like to see there at least (in addition to what we already have in the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Heaven existing QHS:Heaven] page). So let me know what you think about how this should be approached because there are a lot of sources to investigate. I would suggest searching for "Jannah/Janna/Heaven/Paradise" in Hadith websites and scholar websites (Islam QA) and start collecting anything that is of interest. Also check out other websites for example [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:faithfreedom.org FFI], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:islam-watch.org Islam-watch], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=heaven+site:thereligionofpeace.com theReligionofpeace.com], etc. etc. Of course we only want any relevant quotes from the original sources, not the commentary from these other websites.

The first step would be to search and collect all Heaven related verses, hadiths and scholar quotes or at least the important ones that we want to show, and then the next step is to organize them. Quran 56:36, 78:33 and others (like the #15 reference there which is a hadith) can be in the "Carnal Pleasures" section for example. So yea its a pretty big project but here you go. Thats my input on this. I think I've seen our original page before and did feel it wasnt complete so if you can work on it that would be nice. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 14:00, 18 September 2014 (PDT)

::: Thanks for you reply Axius. I know the page is far from complete, and it is a reorganization of the original page, this means that I did not cut back on blocks of quotations, that is why the carnal pleasures were include in the furniture section. The same block of text is in the "Garden" section and in the "Pleasant Company" section. It is a matter of choice if you want to cut it back to the part that only contains "Furniture". Before a heated discussion rises again, let's all realize that any grouping is controversial. Dealing with issues one by one: 
1) Do you or another editor agree with my choice that a whole section of Qur'an is included even if only one sentence refers to subject in the header? Or do you think only that very sentence should be quoted. Like the issue you mentioned: should the whole "heavenly" quote from the Qur'an, including the "pleasant company" part be quoted under the "furniture" section even if only one sentence in it refers to furniture? 
2) If my page is better than the original it is best to copy it asap to the old heaven page, to avoid that one has to maintain two pages on the same subject. No quote has been left out from the original page. 
3) I kept in mind the reply from Sahab about quoting things more than once, and that means that they will not be marked as such. 
4) "Pleasant Company" suggests carnal pleasures but do not state them as such. That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. 
5) Where more than one verse is quoted I make the new verse start on a new line. That is why the layout looks different from the original page. 

:You shouldnt be seeing any heated discussions from me :) not at least this soon in the discussion and even then I try to be calm and rational.
:In my opinion we should not be putting this much organization work into a page which is already far from complete and is missing out on so many good things in the hadiths and scholars. Only after we get a nice collection we can think of the headings. As for the Virgins verse being included in a "Pleasant company" this sounds like something an apologist would do. We dont want to hide what is an obviously Carnal pleasure described in the Quran (78:33 for example).
:No your page is not better because hiding a verse like this is not better than not having any headings at all.
:''"That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. "'' - why not? You didnt explain the "why". 78:33 is a Carnal pleasure and that is what we want to highlight. We might as well delete [[72 Virgins]] and retitle that to "Company of pleasant Women as described in the Quran". Obviously we cannot do that.
:Your suggestions are exactly why I think it is best to keep new editors restricted to Sandboxes until they show they understand the mission of the site or what the appropriate thing to do is. Side note: We are lucky that a person like Sahab happened upon the site. I dont know what shape the site would be in if that didn't happen. Even then we all have disagreements on one issue or the other (thats ok, it happens all the time in any situation). Any way:
:Repeating blocks verses is not a good idea. Not until we start collecting all the good stuff in hadiths and scholars and that is one point I brought up before as being the first thing that should be done and you have not addressed that. We are not in a hurry to improve this page so the additional stuff should be brought in first and headings and the issue of duplicate text can be dealt with later. When we do get those additional items, the heading "Carnal pleasures" will make perfect sense. There's already a collection of the 72 virgins hadiths (72 virgins, ever erect penises and appetizing vaginas etc) that can be repeated in the Carnal pleasures section. I'm sure there are many other things that can be found. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:06, 19 September 2014 (PDT)

::Axius, my knowledge is about the Qur'an and this is the scripture with most authority. To include the Hadith and Scholars is ambitious to say the least, and they have less authority. Most Muslims will have a Qur'an but I doubt that of the Hadith. This would take too much of my time to go through that. I thought I give you a hand with pages concerning the Qur'an. If you can convincingly debunk that "literal word of God", then whole Islam collapses. The Qur'an makes perfectly sense as a tool for a ruthless gangster, to create a submissive gang. I am gathering info for an essay on that and hope to publish it here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:51, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:::''"To include the Hadith and Scholars is ambitious to say the least, and they have less authority."'' - oh wow. You do notice that the Page title says "Quran, '''Hadith and scholars'''". And now you're saying we shouldnt include hadiths and scholars on that page? lol. What about the other QHS pages? Do you think we should delete all hadiths and scholars in other QHS pages (for example [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Women QHS women]), yes or no?
:::Keeping in mind your previous actions and edits (1. Virgins verse is listed under "Furniture", 2. "QHS should not have any hadiths and scholars". 3. Using a translator's word in brackets for a new section but that is much more forgiveable than 1 and 2 and you continue to defend #1), honestly I dont think this site is the place for you, but you are very welcome to keep working on Sandbox and in fact I encourage that because maybe one day you may understand how we work and the approach we use here and you may improve.
:::Also can you explain why you added the Ransom section? Are you aware that words in brackets for translators are not actual arabic words? They use those to explain things in their own words. We cannot use those words for anything significant such as making a new heading (I repeat, the arabic word Ransom is not mentioned in that verse but anyone correct me if I'm wrong).
:::From now on please refrain from editing main space articles any further. You can work on Sandbox articles in whatever way you want. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:20, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
::::'''"my knowledge is about the Qur'an and this is the scripture with most authority"''' Jansen, you do realize that Sunnis are actually named after the literature you wish to dismiss (Sirah + Hadith = Muhammad's [[Sunnah]])? And also the fact that there are hadith that [[Stoning|overrule the words of the Qur'an]] (well, I and Muslims would say a better way to describe it is "supplement" its words)? Muslims may revere the Qur'an a lot more than the hadith, but to claim it has "more authority" is debatable. I agree with Axius. To suggest the hadith and scholars should be left out of a QHS page is ridiculous. They are valid religious texts that hold more value to the everyday life of a Muslim than the Qur'an ever will. And there is nothing at all "ambitious" about it. The wiki already has plenty of pages that cover all relevant religious texts (e.g. [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Lying_and_Deception Lying]). And this is coming from someone who wishes for "completeness".

::::Going back to an earlier point, rather than calling that section "Pleasant Company" or "Carnal Pleasures", I would go simply with "Sexuality". It is clinical and to the point, like how it should be. LOL both "Pleasant Company" and "Carnal Pleasures" sounds so theatrical, like as if I'm reading something written by Shakespeare :) [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:49, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:::::Lol yea, I guess it was just an improvement attempt over "Pleasant company" to drive the point across to him that we need something to highlight that stuff. Yea Sexuality is better and matches the rest of what we have. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 17:26, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

== Proposed addition to contradictions in the Qur'an ==
Sharp contrast towards the people of the book.
===The People of the Book are right===
Yes
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|43}}| The Unbelievers say: "No messenger art thou." Say: "Enough for a witness between me and you is Allah, and such as have knowledge of the Book." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|46}}| And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}
No
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|65|end=69|style=ref}}|Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding? 
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not! 
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. 
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. 
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive! }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|71|end=73|style=ref}}| Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? 
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back; 
"And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things." }}

I collected some of quotes about the people of the book on [[User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/People_of_the_Book_in_the_Qur%27an]] so you can shop around there. This is a page in the making. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 
:You can work with Saggy on QHS issues. He has some pages about that in his sandbox. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:09, 19 September 2014 (PDT)
::I could not find the page you mean. [[Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:People_of_the_Book ]] from Sahab comes closest but it does not have it organized, so the contrast is unclear. 10:94 is missing there too. Saggy's page does not have a sandbox page about this as far as I can see. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:59, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

== QHS should not include hadiths and scholars? ==

This was worthy of having its own section. [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APW._Jansen&diff=109769&oldid=109759 Here] you say that QHS:Heaven should not have hadiths and scholars. Its definitely one of the strangest things I've heard from an editor here. The page title is clearly "Quran '''hadith and scholars'''" and we have about 50 or 100 existing QHS pages which are full of hadiths and scholars. ([http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Category:QHS 79] to be exact)

So should we remove all hadiths and verses from [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Women QHS women?] Yes or No? Thats the question you should respond to. If its a "no", why should we have them at QHS:women but not at QHS:Heaven? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:41, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
: No Axius, but I think organizing should start before it is complete. The Qur'an is the most authoritative source for Muslims, and if that part is up to level we can organize it, giving it headers, so searching is easier. Waiting with organizing until it is all complete would take too long, and would make the site less convenient to use. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 03:18, 23 September 2014 (PDT)
::PWJ, you did not respond to my specific question which was: Should the hadiths from [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Women QHS:Women] be deleted? If not, why not? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:43, 23 September 2014 (PDT)

== No more main space edits - Edits removed ==

I have reverted all or most of your previous edits. We cannot compromise on site quality. Saying that a QHS page (which is '''TITLED''' Hadiths and Scholars) should not have hadiths on it is a serious mistake for logical thinking. The same is the case for listing a verse about Virgins in a section called "Furniture" and then suggesting your version of the page is better than the existing one which doesn't have any headings at all and that was after I pointed out the issue. There are other issues with your editing that others have seen.

This site cannot accept edits from people who make thinking mistakes like that (if it was correctable or something they realized it would be another issue) and we do not have the time to review such a person's edits on main space.

[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&diff=109790&oldid=109453 These] are edits of yours that I removed for QHS:non-Muslims. Please work in a Sandbox and work with us to get these edits into main space so we can be sure they are all 100% correct because I would definitely like to see them into main space but only after they are reviewed.

Once again, do not edit any more main space articles. Again you are welcome to edit your own Sandboxes (do not edit main space Sandboxes, which means pages beginning with 'WikiIslam:Sandbox' ...). Let me know if you have any questions or if I wasn't clear about something.

We have a new policy in any case that tells new editors not to edit main space. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 05:20, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
::Axius this was a response to a remark from Sahab on your talk page: 
''Those sound like emotional reasons, so those alone aren't reason enough to justify a page such as that. As I noted earlier, two quotes are not enough for a stand-alone page, but feel free to add the contents of WikiIslam:Sandbox/Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Ransom to Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Miscellaneous (placing the Heading "Ransom" in its correct alphabetically order). --Sahab (talk) 14:05, 25 August 2014 (PDT)'' 
::I thought I did put that in the edit summary. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 03:23, 23 September 2014 (PDT)
:::Yes I did see that however you did not look at my reply: Sahab did not give an explicit approval of ''that'' certain hadith to be listed in the Ransom section. It was general advice for moving a new topic into Misc, until it justifies its own page.
:::What is your reply for Ransom not being mentioned in Arabic? I asked you that question above. Please see that question again. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:45, 23 September 2014 (PDT)

PWJ emailed the site account and said he does not wish to contribute anymore. I mentioned again that for example the page was titled 'Quran hadiths and Scholars', so the logical thing is to have hadiths on the page. Yet he refused to acknowledge such a basic mistake or acknowledge the importance of Hadiths in Islam as mentioned by Sahab above.

The website is [[What_People_Say_About_WikiIslam|well liked]] by people due to the hard work and attention to detail that existing editors have put into it. This would not be possible if they made basic mistakes and refused to acknowledge them.

PWJ, good luck to you as well and thanks for visting. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 09:19, 23 September 2014 (PDT)
==Quitting==
I am quitting as an editor, and informed Axius about the reasons. I will not respond to any changes. Thanks and good luck.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 16:15, 24 October 2014 (PDT)

User talk:PW. Jansen

2014-09-23T10:23:34Z

PW. Jansen: /* No more main space edits - Edits removed */

==Thanks==
Thanks for your additions on that QHS page for Characteristics [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&action=history] and welcome to the site. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:51, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
:For your edit [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&curid=5621&diff=109317&oldid=109310 here], there's probably some others on that page that could also quality for what Allah thinks e.g.:
:: ''For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe.''
:So I guess the other 'Allah' ones could be moved to the new section or, have all of them in one big section like we had before. Not sure which one is the best. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:03, 18 August 2014 (PDT)
::If these existing sections were renamed "Allah thinks...." they would lose much of their impact and they would be IMO pretty inaccurate. In Islam, Allah is the law. If he thinks something, then it simply is. So, to Muslims in general, it's not simply "Allah thinks Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures," it is literally "Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures". [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:48, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

I agree with Sahab, but we do also write for non-Muslims who do not understand that "what Allah thinks" is equal to "it is". A line to explain this would help. Non-Muslims will look for the literal text. I will work on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 

:Ok we wont do it then. I'm also thinking its difficult to decide what the difference is for the verses where Allah thinks and where its the other case so yes, just keep it like that. Could you re-adjust the verses to flow with the rest of the content? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:41, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

::Jansen, you seemed to have missed the message above this one where Axius suggests that you replace the page to its original format (i.e. "Non-Muslims are.."). But, never-mind, I have done that myself.

::As I noted on my edit summaries, no need for adding <nowiki>*</nowiki> before a repeated verse because there will already be several QHS pages that repeat the same verses. But this is not a problem and does not need to be pointed out if the section that it is being repeated in focuses on a different aspect of those same verses. Another point you seemed to have missed is that your additions (worded as they are) have little to do with the subject matter of the page. Rather than remove them completely, I have moved them (with a few changes) to a more suitable page[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Non-Muslims#Allah]. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:14, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

==Leap year==
All I understood is that altering months of a calendar is forbidden. That is the Ramadan calendar. Which calendar is used for agriculture, the 365 days one? Is the gap of 10 or 11 days because of that leap year day (Feb 29)? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:24, 20 August 2014 (PDT)
:hi PW. Jansen, regarding [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Axius&diff=109322&oldid=109321 this] I'll reply here for continuity. Is there a Quranic verse for the calender issue? That could be used in the Scientific errors in the Quran article. In any case there could be a separate article on this. There could be information from Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_calendar lunar year] and/or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar Islamic calendar] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar#History History] section). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 07:36, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Thanks, I am not that familiar with the Wiki communication features so something may be rather inefficient. The Koranic verse here is 9:37: Verily the transposing (of a prohibited month) is an addition to Unbelief: the Unbelievers are led to wrong thereby: for they make it lawful one year, and forbidden another year, in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allah and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their course seems pleasing to them. But Allah guideth not those who reject Faith. 
Traditionally the Arab added a month every so many years to synchronize sun and moon calendar. This a rather coarse way but sun and moon calendar don't get out of synch completely like is the case now. see: http://islam.about.com/cs/calendar/a/hijrah_calendar.htm for the current one. For the older one e.g. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20837003?uid=3737536&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104072781421 (PW. Jansen)
:I read the link. So the old Arab calendar was replaced by a strict lunar calendar hence there is shortfall of 10 or 11 days from the 365-day year. Now can you clarify the error you found? Are you saying that a leap year situation should have been considered? And when, while creating this lunar calendar? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:39, 21 August 2014 (PDT)

Hi, My point is that Muhammad does not understand what it is for, and now the Muslims have to use two calendars, one for Ramadan (the lunar calendar imposed by Muhammad) and one for agriculture ( the solar calendar).
Quote from PDF:Calendars are basically of two types: lunar or non-lunar. Lunar calendars have months based on the cycle of the phases of the moon (the synodic month, ca. 29.53 days). Twelve lunar months will total an average of about 354 days and are thus roughly 11 days shorter than the true solar (tropical or sidereal) year of 365.2422 days. Most of the nations of the ancient world used lunisolar calendars, where the difference between the lunar and the solar year is compensated by periodically intercalating a thirteenth month. Non-lunar calendars are based on notional "months" with a fixed number of days and make no attempt to keep pace with the phases of the moon.
Link: https://cmes.uchicago.edu/sites/cmes.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/Middle%20Eastern%20Calendars.pdf

:We cant accuse Muhammad in the Scientific Errors in Qur'an article. The calendar clearly has some tiff. But it is a case of lack of explanation which Ax had said is not a scientific error. So if it is not meant for that article (decide), I have another place in the making [[WikiIslam:Sandbox/Logical Errors and Other Issues in the Qur'an]]. I think you should insert your point, with the verse. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:34, 25 August 2014 (PDT) For the boats, there is 31:31 already at the bottom of the sc. errors article. But i think the most blatant is 17.066 and 42:32 upto 34. So u may add them over there. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:55, 25 August 2014 (PDT) You can check for more errors in [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith]]. They are pending review. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 08:05, 25 August 2014 (PDT)

== "Pray to Muhammad" ==

Hi Jansen. I've removed the "[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Theology&diff=prev&oldid=109359 Pray to Muhammad]" section you added to "Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Islamic Theology". There were several problems:

1. The page is about Islamic theology, not Allah. Your comment about "One wonders, who answers Allah's prayers," shifts the focus from Muslim beliefs onto Allah's characteristics.

2. There is a big difference between "sending blessings" onto someone and praying to someone. A quick Google search brings up some interesting stuff, e.g. [http://www.hcna.us/columns/blessing.html]. Without reading anything about it, it is common sense to most, even outside an Islamic perspective, that being "blessed by God/gods" does not equate to being prayed to by God/gods. I've also heard this argument before. In fact others have tried to add it here and there in the past and it has always been removed. It is not an accurate criticism of Allah/Islam so does not belong here.

3. Even if we accepted the argument, we would not word it in the way you did. We try to approach things in a professional manner, so the sarcastic tone is not welcome.

I'm not on here very often now, but if you have any questions, I'll gladly answer them when I can. Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 21:26, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Okay I get it. I was confused by a Dutch translation which said literally "prayers of blessing" and I thought it depended on the translation. The verse is (IMHO) relevant because explains why Muslims refer to prophet Muhammad with pbuh.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 17:31, 21 August 2014 (PDT)
:No it is not relevant. That page is there to explain some of the major theology so people better understand how Muslims approach their texts (Qur'an, Hadith and Sunnah). Something as insignificant as the use of (PBUH) does not qualify. In fact that verse on its own explains little. All it says it to respect him, but a religious group being told to respect its founder is hardly illuminating. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:28, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

== New additions/reviews ==

I have made a section ''Changes in calendar'' in my sandbox. You might want to add all that comes to your mind from the forbidden 1 month to the leap year day. I listed more errors. if you find them correct, we will tell admins to add them. 
(Addition Jansen: I presume this was said by [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith ]] at 03:14, 29 August 2014 by WikiIslam user )
I would add that because of this change Ramadan shifts every year, 10 to 11 days earlier, and keeps shifting. And because of this change Muhammad made Muslims needed a separate calendar for agriculture. FYI I have no knowledge of the Hadith, I have a manuscript on the morals of Muhammad as comes forward in the Qur'an, and was not focused on scientific errors. 
I found these missing about the sky [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#Sky_is_a_Tent.2FDome|Link]] 

17:92 "Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou sayest (will happen), against us; or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face: 
22:65 Seest thou not that Allah has made subject to you (men) all that is on the earth, and the ships that sail through the sea by His Command? He withholds the sky (rain) from failing on the earth except by His leave: for Allah is Most Kind and Most Merciful to man. 
26:187 "Now cause a piece of the sky to fall on us, if thou art truthful!" 
31:10 He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.
(You might be tempted to use the last one as nonsense on "pairs" but I found translations differ widely on this point.) 
50:6 Do they not look at the sky above them?- How We have made it and adorned it, and there are no flaws in it? 
52:44 Were they to see a piece of the sky falling (on them), they would (only) say: "Clouds gathered in heaps!" 
 
Together with the ones already in there are so many it deserves a separate header. Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?

About the flat earth, the following are missing on the [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#The_Earth_is_Flat|scientific errors page]]: 
13:3 And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider! 
15:19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance. 
51:48 And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out! 
79:30 notice how much the translations differ: 
YUSUFALI: And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); 
PICKTHAL: And after that He spread the earth, 
SHAKIR: And the earth, He expanded it after that. 
Again: Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?
--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 00:07, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:When replying, add one colon before you start the paragraph. If there is already somebody else's reply, every next reply must add one more colon. No need to write your name in the first sentence. You don't need any special knowledge of hadith. Just start reading and searching them for any topic. About sky: I think 22:65 should be in the same sky section but not Yusuf ali's words. Pickthall and shakir are correct because they dont write "rain" and it is not in the Arabic text. "Pillars" and "A piece of sky can fall on them" is present. Adding the same verses if they dont strengthen the article? Not sure but I was discouraged from doing it. Some sections will have a rolling list of verses. There is variety in the added sky verses so that each of them strengthen the claim of sky being a solid dome over earth. [[Flat Earth and the Quran]] article has most of the flat verses with Arabic word meanings. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:57, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
::Ok, so there is a much more extensive page on the flat earth, but not a cross link from the scientific errors page. About completeness or not I prefer to be complete. It is after all supposed to be an encyclopedia. And you avoid discussions what verse should be cited. And when it is not about science but priorities one can get a better sense of what is important in the Quran. But I don't set the standard here. I think YUSUFALI was not a good choice as the main reference for wikiislam, he differs significantly from most other translators. It seems he tried to create something more acceptable. But I also realize that any choice has its problems and controversy. When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this? Since it is, I think rightly, practice here to cite only one translation here: YUSUFALI.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:54, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:::1. There is a cross-link right there, under the heading, "[[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#The_Earth_is_Flat|The Earth is Flat]]". Click on the link and see for yourself (it quite clearly says, "Main Article: Flat Earth and the Qur'an").
:::2. When has this site claimed it was only an encyclopaedia? As the [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines|policies]] state, "''WikiIslam is not restricted to only being an encyclopedia of Islam. It is there for editors to make use of in contributing and arranging information about Islam in many ways. For example, compiling news, translating media, making lists, collecting images and videos, counter-apologetics, hosting online books and other documents, and so on.''"

:::A list of scientific errors in the Qur'an is clearly not intended to be an Encyclopedic page. Every page has its own requirements. Yes, that page should aim be a "complete" list, but it was never meant to contain a comprehensive analysis of each entry. If it did, that page would be outrageously lengthy and the resulting wall of text would pretty much turn everyone away. That is left to the cross-linked stand-alone pages.

:::3. A quick look through the FAQ (something that all editors should really try at least once), would show that you are in error. If you look under, "[[WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#Sources Used|Sources Used]]," it says, "'''''What Qur'an translation do you use?''' Unless otherwise stated, we use the respected and widely accepted translations of Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthal or M. H. Shakir. All Qur'an quotes are taken from the University of Southern California Muslim Students Association's Compendium of Muslim Texts.''"

:::The Pickthal and Shakir translations are both very good translations. Those three were chosen because they are the most readily available and accepted. What is the point of quoting the Qur'an if Muslims won't even accept the translations used? None whatsoever. All that is asked of the editor is to limit his use of translations to one per section/error, since using multiple translations in a single section may appear disingenuous. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 00:35, 8 September 2014 (PDT)

::::To Sahab, indeed I overlooked that link looking in the sky part. About the translation used here in wiki the part chronological order [[Chronological_Order_of_the_Qur'an]]shows the YusufAli translation and this one is here often used when quoted here. I know the standard link is to three translations. Perhaps you can answer my question "When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this?" and with this I mean not quoting from YusufAli but from the other two. Just mention the translator like this?
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|5}}|PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. }}
::::As far as completeness is concerned this does not only matter scientific errors. The answer Saggy got was more or less the answer you gave me about Zakat quotes. We simply disagree on this. And as I stated I realize I do not set the standard here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:15, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

:::::Hardly, Jansen. The answer Saggy received concerning scientific errors and the answer I gave you concerning Zakat quotes were definitely not "more or less" the same. If they were, then please enlighten me on how it was so.

:::::One page (Zakat) had a particular point to make (about non-Muslims and terrorism) and your suggestion of having all the mundane verses mentioned simply to point out the fact that Allah (aka Prophet Muhammad) asked often for money, and rarely for good causes, would have buried it underneath something that belongs in an essay. The other page (scientific errors) is meant as a quick and easy-to-read list of errors that can lead off to more in-depth pages. Making them "complete" with all verses, even tafsir, hadith etc. as some editors have tried, would leave the list no longer "quick and easy-to-read."

:::::Yeah, I'm still not seeing how my answers were "more or less" the same, unless you're referring to the fact that I basically said "no" to both suggestions. We do not "simply disagree." I've fully explained why your ideas are wrong for this site. And it is not an issue of ''standards''. I can assure you that no one sets standards higher here than I do. It is a matter of appropriateness, style, usefulness, intent and a whole lot of other factors.

:::::Concerning your translation query, if the quoted translation is one of the three, then there is no need to mention it at all. That verse you quoted is pretty much the same across all three. If there does happen to be a massive difference in meaning for a certain verse, then it's probably best to bring the issue up with Axius. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 04:43, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

== Heaven organized ==
I made a new page in my dir and I want to organize what heavenly promises are made in the Qur'an
[[User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven in the Qur'an]]
:If you want to fill just quotes and no content of your own, there is a QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. Why not organise there? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 13:55, 9 September 2014 (PDT)
::The page I made was initially a copy/paste from that page, but I noticed I too easily create irritation. So let someone have a look at it first and then copy/paste it to that page QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. I made it to replace that page. There were only a few quotes added. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:48, 10 September 2014 (PDT)
I saw your email now. For one [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven_in_the_Qur%27an#Furniture], this verse is listed in the Furniture section:
:''And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- ''
Your organization effort is nice but I think its far from complete due to the fact that I found this verse in the furniture section (this is a serious error as this verse deserves to be in another new section such as .. "Carnal Pleasures", for example) and this certain verse is the kind that we would want to highlight. So yea I think its a great effort to create those headings but you could re-think what kind of sections you want to have. There are many Heaven related verses so we have to decide what we want to show, why we want to show it and how.

The other thing is that this page only contains Quranic verses and we know that a lot of good stuff is found in Hadiths, or scholar quotes. For example see source #15 [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Numbers_of_Islam#cite_note-15 here]. That source may have additional quotes on Heaven so you could search "Mishkat al-Masabih Paradise and Hell" for example or just "Mishkat al-Masabih".

[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness QHS:Silliness] has some for example [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#A_Tree_which_is_25.5_million_miles_wide tree], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Islamic_Heaven:_.22appetizing_vaginas.22_and_.22ever-erect.22_penises this of course], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Believers_will_enter_paradise_even_if_they_have_had_illegal_sexual_intercourse_or_committed_theft believers will enter ...]. etc.

So its a pretty big project making this page complete or better. I know the present shape of the page is also about the same as yours (except for the headings issue) but its a nice important page. If we can find all the Carnal/Ridiculous/Funny issues for Islamic heaven, thats what I'd like to see there at least (in addition to what we already have in the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Heaven existing QHS:Heaven] page). So let me know what you think about how this should be approached because there are a lot of sources to investigate. I would suggest searching for "Jannah/Janna/Heaven/Paradise" in Hadith websites and scholar websites (Islam QA) and start collecting anything that is of interest. Also check out other websites for example [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:faithfreedom.org FFI], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:islam-watch.org Islam-watch], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=heaven+site:thereligionofpeace.com theReligionofpeace.com], etc. etc. Of course we only want any relevant quotes from the original sources, not the commentary from these other websites.

The first step would be to search and collect all Heaven related verses, hadiths and scholar quotes or at least the important ones that we want to show, and then the next step is to organize them. Quran 56:36, 78:33 and others (like the #15 reference there which is a hadith) can be in the "Carnal Pleasures" section for example. So yea its a pretty big project but here you go. Thats my input on this. I think I've seen our original page before and did feel it wasnt complete so if you can work on it that would be nice. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 14:00, 18 September 2014 (PDT)

::: Thanks for you reply Axius. I know the page is far from complete, and it is a reorganization of the original page, this means that I did not cut back on blocks of quotations, that is why the carnal pleasures were include in the furniture section. The same block of text is in the "Garden" section and in the "Pleasant Company" section. It is a matter of choice if you want to cut it back to the part that only contains "Furniture". Before a heated discussion rises again, let's all realize that any grouping is controversial. Dealing with issues one by one: 
1) Do you or another editor agree with my choice that a whole section of Qur'an is included even if only one sentence refers to subject in the header? Or do you think only that very sentence should be quoted. Like the issue you mentioned: should the whole "heavenly" quote from the Qur'an, including the "pleasant company" part be quoted under the "furniture" section even if only one sentence in it refers to furniture? 
2) If my page is better than the original it is best to copy it asap to the old heaven page, to avoid that one has to maintain two pages on the same subject. No quote has been left out from the original page. 
3) I kept in mind the reply from Sahab about quoting things more than once, and that means that they will not be marked as such. 
4) "Pleasant Company" suggests carnal pleasures but do not state them as such. That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. 
5) Where more than one verse is quoted I make the new verse start on a new line. That is why the layout looks different from the original page. 

:You shouldnt be seeing any heated discussions from me :) not at least this soon in the discussion and even then I try to be calm and rational.
:In my opinion we should not be putting this much organization work into a page which is already far from complete and is missing out on so many good things in the hadiths and scholars. Only after we get a nice collection we can think of the headings. As for the Virgins verse being included in a "Pleasant company" this sounds like something an apologist would do. We dont want to hide what is an obviously Carnal pleasure described in the Quran (78:33 for example).
:No your page is not better because hiding a verse like this is not better than not having any headings at all.
:''"That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. "'' - why not? You didnt explain the "why". 78:33 is a Carnal pleasure and that is what we want to highlight. We might as well delete [[72 Virgins]] and retitle that to "Company of pleasant Women as described in the Quran". Obviously we cannot do that.
:Your suggestions are exactly why I think it is best to keep new editors restricted to Sandboxes until they show they understand the mission of the site or what the appropriate thing to do is. Side note: We are lucky that a person like Sahab happened upon the site. I dont know what shape the site would be in if that didn't happen. Even then we all have disagreements on one issue or the other (thats ok, it happens all the time in any situation). Any way:
:Repeating blocks verses is not a good idea. Not until we start collecting all the good stuff in hadiths and scholars and that is one point I brought up before as being the first thing that should be done and you have not addressed that. We are not in a hurry to improve this page so the additional stuff should be brought in first and headings and the issue of duplicate text can be dealt with later. When we do get those additional items, the heading "Carnal pleasures" will make perfect sense. There's already a collection of the 72 virgins hadiths (72 virgins, ever erect penises and appetizing vaginas etc) that can be repeated in the Carnal pleasures section. I'm sure there are many other things that can be found. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:06, 19 September 2014 (PDT)

::Axius, my knowledge is about the Qur'an and this is the scripture with most authority. To include the Hadith and Scholars is ambitious to say the least, and they have less authority. Most Muslims will have a Qur'an but I doubt that of the Hadith. This would take too much of my time to go through that. I thought I give you a hand with pages concerning the Qur'an. If you can convincingly debunk that "literal word of God", then whole Islam collapses. The Qur'an makes perfectly sense as a tool for a ruthless gangster, to create a submissive gang. I am gathering info for an essay on that and hope to publish it here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:51, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:::''"To include the Hadith and Scholars is ambitious to say the least, and they have less authority."'' - oh wow. You do notice that the Page title says "Quran, '''Hadith and scholars'''". And now you're saying we shouldnt include hadiths and scholars on that page? lol. What about the other QHS pages? Do you think we should delete all hadiths and scholars in other QHS pages (for example [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Women QHS women]), yes or no?
:::Keeping in mind your previous actions and edits (1. Virgins verse is listed under "Furniture", 2. "QHS should not have any hadiths and scholars". 3. Using a translator's word in brackets for a new section but that is much more forgiveable than 1 and 2 and you continue to defend #1), honestly I dont think this site is the place for you, but you are very welcome to keep working on Sandbox and in fact I encourage that because maybe one day you may understand how we work and the approach we use here and you may improve.
:::Also can you explain why you added the Ransom section? Are you aware that words in brackets for translators are not actual arabic words? They use those to explain things in their own words. We cannot use those words for anything significant such as making a new heading (I repeat, the arabic word Ransom is not mentioned in that verse but anyone correct me if I'm wrong).
:::From now on please refrain from editing main space articles any further. You can work on Sandbox articles in whatever way you want. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:20, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
::::'''"my knowledge is about the Qur'an and this is the scripture with most authority"''' Jansen, you do realize that Sunnis are actually named after the literature you wish to dismiss (Sirah + Hadith = Muhammad's [[Sunnah]])? And also the fact that there are hadith that [[Stoning|overrule the words of the Qur'an]] (well, I and Muslims would say a better way to describe it is "supplement" its words)? Muslims may revere the Qur'an a lot more than the hadith, but to claim it has "more authority" is debatable. I agree with Axius. To suggest the hadith and scholars should be left out of a QHS page is ridiculous. They are valid religious texts that hold more value to the everyday life of a Muslim than the Qur'an ever will. And there is nothing at all "ambitious" about it. The wiki already has plenty of pages that cover all relevant religious texts (e.g. [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Lying_and_Deception Lying]). And this is coming from someone who wishes for "completeness".

::::Going back to an earlier point, rather than calling that section "Pleasant Company" or "Carnal Pleasures", I would go simply with "Sexuality". It is clinical and to the point, like how it should be. LOL both "Pleasant Company" and "Carnal Pleasures" sounds so theatrical, like as if I'm reading something written by Shakespeare :) [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:49, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:::::Lol yea, I guess it was just an improvement attempt over "Pleasant company" to drive the point across to him that we need something to highlight that stuff. Yea Sexuality is better and matches the rest of what we have. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 17:26, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

== Proposed addition to contradictions in the Qur'an ==
Sharp contrast towards the people of the book.
===The People of the Book are right===
Yes
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|43}}| The Unbelievers say: "No messenger art thou." Say: "Enough for a witness between me and you is Allah, and such as have knowledge of the Book." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|46}}| And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}
No
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|65|end=69|style=ref}}|Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding? 
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not! 
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. 
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. 
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive! }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|71|end=73|style=ref}}| Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? 
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back; 
"And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things." }}

I collected some of quotes about the people of the book on [[User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/People_of_the_Book_in_the_Qur%27an]] so you can shop around there. This is a page in the making. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 
:You can work with Saggy on QHS issues. He has some pages about that in his sandbox. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:09, 19 September 2014 (PDT)
::I could not find the page you mean. [[Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:People_of_the_Book ]] from Sahab comes closest but it does not have it organized, so the contrast is unclear. 10:94 is missing there too. Saggy's page does not have a sandbox page about this as far as I can see. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:59, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

== QHS should not include hadiths and scholars? ==

This was worthy of having its own section. [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APW._Jansen&diff=109769&oldid=109759 Here] you say that QHS:Heaven should not have hadiths and scholars. Its definitely one of the strangest things I've heard from an editor here. The page title is clearly "Quran '''hadith and scholars'''" and we have about 50 or 100 existing QHS pages which are full of hadiths and scholars. ([http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Category:QHS 79] to be exact)

So should we remove all hadiths and verses from [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Women QHS women?] Yes or No? Thats the question you should respond to. If its a "no", why should we have them at QHS:women but not at QHS:Heaven? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:41, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:: No Axius, but I think organizing should start before it is complete. The Qur'an is the most authoritative source for Muslims, and if that part is up to level we can organize it, giving it headers, so searching is easier. Waiting with organizing until it is all complete would take too long, and would make the site less convenient to use. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 03:18, 23 September 2014 (PDT)

== No more main space edits - Edits removed ==

I have reverted all or most of your previous edits. We cannot compromise on site quality. Saying that a QHS page (which is '''TITLED''' Hadiths and Scholars) should not have hadiths on it is a serious mistake for logical thinking. The same is the case for listing a verse about Virgins in a section called "Furniture" and then suggesting your version of the page is better than the existing one which doesn't have any headings at all and that was after I pointed out the issue. There are other issues with your editing that others have seen.

This site cannot accept edits from people who make thinking mistakes like that (if it was correctable or something they realized it would be another issue) and we do not have the time to review such a person's edits on main space.

[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&diff=109790&oldid=109453 These] are edits of yours that I removed for QHS:non-Muslims. Please work in a Sandbox and work with us to get these edits into main space so we can be sure they are all 100% correct because I would definitely like to see them into main space but only after they are reviewed.

Once again, do not edit any more main space articles. Again you are welcome to edit your own Sandboxes (do not edit main space Sandboxes, which means pages beginning with 'WikiIslam:Sandbox' ...). Let me know if you have any questions or if I wasn't clear about something.

We have a new policy in any case that tells new editors not to edit main space. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 05:20, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
::Axius this was a response to a remark from Sahab on your talk page: 
''Those sound like emotional reasons, so those alone aren't reason enough to justify a page such as that. As I noted earlier, two quotes are not enough for a stand-alone page, but feel free to add the contents of WikiIslam:Sandbox/Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Ransom to Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Miscellaneous (placing the Heading "Ransom" in its correct alphabetically order). --Sahab (talk) 14:05, 25 August 2014 (PDT)'' 
::I thought I did put that in the edit summary. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 03:23, 23 September 2014 (PDT)

User talk:PW. Jansen

2014-09-23T10:18:32Z

PW. Jansen: /* QHS should not include hadiths and scholars? */

==Thanks==
Thanks for your additions on that QHS page for Characteristics [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&action=history] and welcome to the site. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:51, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
:For your edit [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&curid=5621&diff=109317&oldid=109310 here], there's probably some others on that page that could also quality for what Allah thinks e.g.:
:: ''For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe.''
:So I guess the other 'Allah' ones could be moved to the new section or, have all of them in one big section like we had before. Not sure which one is the best. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:03, 18 August 2014 (PDT)
::If these existing sections were renamed "Allah thinks...." they would lose much of their impact and they would be IMO pretty inaccurate. In Islam, Allah is the law. If he thinks something, then it simply is. So, to Muslims in general, it's not simply "Allah thinks Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures," it is literally "Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures". [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:48, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

I agree with Sahab, but we do also write for non-Muslims who do not understand that "what Allah thinks" is equal to "it is". A line to explain this would help. Non-Muslims will look for the literal text. I will work on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 

:Ok we wont do it then. I'm also thinking its difficult to decide what the difference is for the verses where Allah thinks and where its the other case so yes, just keep it like that. Could you re-adjust the verses to flow with the rest of the content? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:41, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

::Jansen, you seemed to have missed the message above this one where Axius suggests that you replace the page to its original format (i.e. "Non-Muslims are.."). But, never-mind, I have done that myself.

::As I noted on my edit summaries, no need for adding <nowiki>*</nowiki> before a repeated verse because there will already be several QHS pages that repeat the same verses. But this is not a problem and does not need to be pointed out if the section that it is being repeated in focuses on a different aspect of those same verses. Another point you seemed to have missed is that your additions (worded as they are) have little to do with the subject matter of the page. Rather than remove them completely, I have moved them (with a few changes) to a more suitable page[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Non-Muslims#Allah]. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:14, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

==Leap year==
All I understood is that altering months of a calendar is forbidden. That is the Ramadan calendar. Which calendar is used for agriculture, the 365 days one? Is the gap of 10 or 11 days because of that leap year day (Feb 29)? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:24, 20 August 2014 (PDT)
:hi PW. Jansen, regarding [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Axius&diff=109322&oldid=109321 this] I'll reply here for continuity. Is there a Quranic verse for the calender issue? That could be used in the Scientific errors in the Quran article. In any case there could be a separate article on this. There could be information from Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_calendar lunar year] and/or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar Islamic calendar] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar#History History] section). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 07:36, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Thanks, I am not that familiar with the Wiki communication features so something may be rather inefficient. The Koranic verse here is 9:37: Verily the transposing (of a prohibited month) is an addition to Unbelief: the Unbelievers are led to wrong thereby: for they make it lawful one year, and forbidden another year, in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allah and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their course seems pleasing to them. But Allah guideth not those who reject Faith. 
Traditionally the Arab added a month every so many years to synchronize sun and moon calendar. This a rather coarse way but sun and moon calendar don't get out of synch completely like is the case now. see: http://islam.about.com/cs/calendar/a/hijrah_calendar.htm for the current one. For the older one e.g. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20837003?uid=3737536&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104072781421 (PW. Jansen)
:I read the link. So the old Arab calendar was replaced by a strict lunar calendar hence there is shortfall of 10 or 11 days from the 365-day year. Now can you clarify the error you found? Are you saying that a leap year situation should have been considered? And when, while creating this lunar calendar? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:39, 21 August 2014 (PDT)

Hi, My point is that Muhammad does not understand what it is for, and now the Muslims have to use two calendars, one for Ramadan (the lunar calendar imposed by Muhammad) and one for agriculture ( the solar calendar).
Quote from PDF:Calendars are basically of two types: lunar or non-lunar. Lunar calendars have months based on the cycle of the phases of the moon (the synodic month, ca. 29.53 days). Twelve lunar months will total an average of about 354 days and are thus roughly 11 days shorter than the true solar (tropical or sidereal) year of 365.2422 days. Most of the nations of the ancient world used lunisolar calendars, where the difference between the lunar and the solar year is compensated by periodically intercalating a thirteenth month. Non-lunar calendars are based on notional "months" with a fixed number of days and make no attempt to keep pace with the phases of the moon.
Link: https://cmes.uchicago.edu/sites/cmes.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/Middle%20Eastern%20Calendars.pdf

:We cant accuse Muhammad in the Scientific Errors in Qur'an article. The calendar clearly has some tiff. But it is a case of lack of explanation which Ax had said is not a scientific error. So if it is not meant for that article (decide), I have another place in the making [[WikiIslam:Sandbox/Logical Errors and Other Issues in the Qur'an]]. I think you should insert your point, with the verse. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:34, 25 August 2014 (PDT) For the boats, there is 31:31 already at the bottom of the sc. errors article. But i think the most blatant is 17.066 and 42:32 upto 34. So u may add them over there. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:55, 25 August 2014 (PDT) You can check for more errors in [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith]]. They are pending review. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 08:05, 25 August 2014 (PDT)

== "Pray to Muhammad" ==

Hi Jansen. I've removed the "[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Theology&diff=prev&oldid=109359 Pray to Muhammad]" section you added to "Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Islamic Theology". There were several problems:

1. The page is about Islamic theology, not Allah. Your comment about "One wonders, who answers Allah's prayers," shifts the focus from Muslim beliefs onto Allah's characteristics.

2. There is a big difference between "sending blessings" onto someone and praying to someone. A quick Google search brings up some interesting stuff, e.g. [http://www.hcna.us/columns/blessing.html]. Without reading anything about it, it is common sense to most, even outside an Islamic perspective, that being "blessed by God/gods" does not equate to being prayed to by God/gods. I've also heard this argument before. In fact others have tried to add it here and there in the past and it has always been removed. It is not an accurate criticism of Allah/Islam so does not belong here.

3. Even if we accepted the argument, we would not word it in the way you did. We try to approach things in a professional manner, so the sarcastic tone is not welcome.

I'm not on here very often now, but if you have any questions, I'll gladly answer them when I can. Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 21:26, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Okay I get it. I was confused by a Dutch translation which said literally "prayers of blessing" and I thought it depended on the translation. The verse is (IMHO) relevant because explains why Muslims refer to prophet Muhammad with pbuh.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 17:31, 21 August 2014 (PDT)
:No it is not relevant. That page is there to explain some of the major theology so people better understand how Muslims approach their texts (Qur'an, Hadith and Sunnah). Something as insignificant as the use of (PBUH) does not qualify. In fact that verse on its own explains little. All it says it to respect him, but a religious group being told to respect its founder is hardly illuminating. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:28, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

== New additions/reviews ==

I have made a section ''Changes in calendar'' in my sandbox. You might want to add all that comes to your mind from the forbidden 1 month to the leap year day. I listed more errors. if you find them correct, we will tell admins to add them. 
(Addition Jansen: I presume this was said by [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith ]] at 03:14, 29 August 2014 by WikiIslam user )
I would add that because of this change Ramadan shifts every year, 10 to 11 days earlier, and keeps shifting. And because of this change Muhammad made Muslims needed a separate calendar for agriculture. FYI I have no knowledge of the Hadith, I have a manuscript on the morals of Muhammad as comes forward in the Qur'an, and was not focused on scientific errors. 
I found these missing about the sky [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#Sky_is_a_Tent.2FDome|Link]] 

17:92 "Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou sayest (will happen), against us; or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face: 
22:65 Seest thou not that Allah has made subject to you (men) all that is on the earth, and the ships that sail through the sea by His Command? He withholds the sky (rain) from failing on the earth except by His leave: for Allah is Most Kind and Most Merciful to man. 
26:187 "Now cause a piece of the sky to fall on us, if thou art truthful!" 
31:10 He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.
(You might be tempted to use the last one as nonsense on "pairs" but I found translations differ widely on this point.) 
50:6 Do they not look at the sky above them?- How We have made it and adorned it, and there are no flaws in it? 
52:44 Were they to see a piece of the sky falling (on them), they would (only) say: "Clouds gathered in heaps!" 
 
Together with the ones already in there are so many it deserves a separate header. Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?

About the flat earth, the following are missing on the [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#The_Earth_is_Flat|scientific errors page]]: 
13:3 And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider! 
15:19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance. 
51:48 And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out! 
79:30 notice how much the translations differ: 
YUSUFALI: And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); 
PICKTHAL: And after that He spread the earth, 
SHAKIR: And the earth, He expanded it after that. 
Again: Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?
--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 00:07, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:When replying, add one colon before you start the paragraph. If there is already somebody else's reply, every next reply must add one more colon. No need to write your name in the first sentence. You don't need any special knowledge of hadith. Just start reading and searching them for any topic. About sky: I think 22:65 should be in the same sky section but not Yusuf ali's words. Pickthall and shakir are correct because they dont write "rain" and it is not in the Arabic text. "Pillars" and "A piece of sky can fall on them" is present. Adding the same verses if they dont strengthen the article? Not sure but I was discouraged from doing it. Some sections will have a rolling list of verses. There is variety in the added sky verses so that each of them strengthen the claim of sky being a solid dome over earth. [[Flat Earth and the Quran]] article has most of the flat verses with Arabic word meanings. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:57, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
::Ok, so there is a much more extensive page on the flat earth, but not a cross link from the scientific errors page. About completeness or not I prefer to be complete. It is after all supposed to be an encyclopedia. And you avoid discussions what verse should be cited. And when it is not about science but priorities one can get a better sense of what is important in the Quran. But I don't set the standard here. I think YUSUFALI was not a good choice as the main reference for wikiislam, he differs significantly from most other translators. It seems he tried to create something more acceptable. But I also realize that any choice has its problems and controversy. When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this? Since it is, I think rightly, practice here to cite only one translation here: YUSUFALI.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:54, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:::1. There is a cross-link right there, under the heading, "[[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#The_Earth_is_Flat|The Earth is Flat]]". Click on the link and see for yourself (it quite clearly says, "Main Article: Flat Earth and the Qur'an").
:::2. When has this site claimed it was only an encyclopaedia? As the [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines|policies]] state, "''WikiIslam is not restricted to only being an encyclopedia of Islam. It is there for editors to make use of in contributing and arranging information about Islam in many ways. For example, compiling news, translating media, making lists, collecting images and videos, counter-apologetics, hosting online books and other documents, and so on.''"

:::A list of scientific errors in the Qur'an is clearly not intended to be an Encyclopedic page. Every page has its own requirements. Yes, that page should aim be a "complete" list, but it was never meant to contain a comprehensive analysis of each entry. If it did, that page would be outrageously lengthy and the resulting wall of text would pretty much turn everyone away. That is left to the cross-linked stand-alone pages.

:::3. A quick look through the FAQ (something that all editors should really try at least once), would show that you are in error. If you look under, "[[WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#Sources Used|Sources Used]]," it says, "'''''What Qur'an translation do you use?''' Unless otherwise stated, we use the respected and widely accepted translations of Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthal or M. H. Shakir. All Qur'an quotes are taken from the University of Southern California Muslim Students Association's Compendium of Muslim Texts.''"

:::The Pickthal and Shakir translations are both very good translations. Those three were chosen because they are the most readily available and accepted. What is the point of quoting the Qur'an if Muslims won't even accept the translations used? None whatsoever. All that is asked of the editor is to limit his use of translations to one per section/error, since using multiple translations in a single section may appear disingenuous. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 00:35, 8 September 2014 (PDT)

::::To Sahab, indeed I overlooked that link looking in the sky part. About the translation used here in wiki the part chronological order [[Chronological_Order_of_the_Qur'an]]shows the YusufAli translation and this one is here often used when quoted here. I know the standard link is to three translations. Perhaps you can answer my question "When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this?" and with this I mean not quoting from YusufAli but from the other two. Just mention the translator like this?
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|5}}|PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. }}
::::As far as completeness is concerned this does not only matter scientific errors. The answer Saggy got was more or less the answer you gave me about Zakat quotes. We simply disagree on this. And as I stated I realize I do not set the standard here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:15, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

:::::Hardly, Jansen. The answer Saggy received concerning scientific errors and the answer I gave you concerning Zakat quotes were definitely not "more or less" the same. If they were, then please enlighten me on how it was so.

:::::One page (Zakat) had a particular point to make (about non-Muslims and terrorism) and your suggestion of having all the mundane verses mentioned simply to point out the fact that Allah (aka Prophet Muhammad) asked often for money, and rarely for good causes, would have buried it underneath something that belongs in an essay. The other page (scientific errors) is meant as a quick and easy-to-read list of errors that can lead off to more in-depth pages. Making them "complete" with all verses, even tafsir, hadith etc. as some editors have tried, would leave the list no longer "quick and easy-to-read."

:::::Yeah, I'm still not seeing how my answers were "more or less" the same, unless you're referring to the fact that I basically said "no" to both suggestions. We do not "simply disagree." I've fully explained why your ideas are wrong for this site. And it is not an issue of ''standards''. I can assure you that no one sets standards higher here than I do. It is a matter of appropriateness, style, usefulness, intent and a whole lot of other factors.

:::::Concerning your translation query, if the quoted translation is one of the three, then there is no need to mention it at all. That verse you quoted is pretty much the same across all three. If there does happen to be a massive difference in meaning for a certain verse, then it's probably best to bring the issue up with Axius. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 04:43, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

== Heaven organized ==
I made a new page in my dir and I want to organize what heavenly promises are made in the Qur'an
[[User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven in the Qur'an]]
:If you want to fill just quotes and no content of your own, there is a QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. Why not organise there? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 13:55, 9 September 2014 (PDT)
::The page I made was initially a copy/paste from that page, but I noticed I too easily create irritation. So let someone have a look at it first and then copy/paste it to that page QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. I made it to replace that page. There were only a few quotes added. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:48, 10 September 2014 (PDT)
I saw your email now. For one [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven_in_the_Qur%27an#Furniture], this verse is listed in the Furniture section:
:''And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- ''
Your organization effort is nice but I think its far from complete due to the fact that I found this verse in the furniture section (this is a serious error as this verse deserves to be in another new section such as .. "Carnal Pleasures", for example) and this certain verse is the kind that we would want to highlight. So yea I think its a great effort to create those headings but you could re-think what kind of sections you want to have. There are many Heaven related verses so we have to decide what we want to show, why we want to show it and how.

The other thing is that this page only contains Quranic verses and we know that a lot of good stuff is found in Hadiths, or scholar quotes. For example see source #15 [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Numbers_of_Islam#cite_note-15 here]. That source may have additional quotes on Heaven so you could search "Mishkat al-Masabih Paradise and Hell" for example or just "Mishkat al-Masabih".

[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness QHS:Silliness] has some for example [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#A_Tree_which_is_25.5_million_miles_wide tree], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Islamic_Heaven:_.22appetizing_vaginas.22_and_.22ever-erect.22_penises this of course], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Believers_will_enter_paradise_even_if_they_have_had_illegal_sexual_intercourse_or_committed_theft believers will enter ...]. etc.

So its a pretty big project making this page complete or better. I know the present shape of the page is also about the same as yours (except for the headings issue) but its a nice important page. If we can find all the Carnal/Ridiculous/Funny issues for Islamic heaven, thats what I'd like to see there at least (in addition to what we already have in the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Heaven existing QHS:Heaven] page). So let me know what you think about how this should be approached because there are a lot of sources to investigate. I would suggest searching for "Jannah/Janna/Heaven/Paradise" in Hadith websites and scholar websites (Islam QA) and start collecting anything that is of interest. Also check out other websites for example [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:faithfreedom.org FFI], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:islam-watch.org Islam-watch], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=heaven+site:thereligionofpeace.com theReligionofpeace.com], etc. etc. Of course we only want any relevant quotes from the original sources, not the commentary from these other websites.

The first step would be to search and collect all Heaven related verses, hadiths and scholar quotes or at least the important ones that we want to show, and then the next step is to organize them. Quran 56:36, 78:33 and others (like the #15 reference there which is a hadith) can be in the "Carnal Pleasures" section for example. So yea its a pretty big project but here you go. Thats my input on this. I think I've seen our original page before and did feel it wasnt complete so if you can work on it that would be nice. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 14:00, 18 September 2014 (PDT)

::: Thanks for you reply Axius. I know the page is far from complete, and it is a reorganization of the original page, this means that I did not cut back on blocks of quotations, that is why the carnal pleasures were include in the furniture section. The same block of text is in the "Garden" section and in the "Pleasant Company" section. It is a matter of choice if you want to cut it back to the part that only contains "Furniture". Before a heated discussion rises again, let's all realize that any grouping is controversial. Dealing with issues one by one: 
1) Do you or another editor agree with my choice that a whole section of Qur'an is included even if only one sentence refers to subject in the header? Or do you think only that very sentence should be quoted. Like the issue you mentioned: should the whole "heavenly" quote from the Qur'an, including the "pleasant company" part be quoted under the "furniture" section even if only one sentence in it refers to furniture? 
2) If my page is better than the original it is best to copy it asap to the old heaven page, to avoid that one has to maintain two pages on the same subject. No quote has been left out from the original page. 
3) I kept in mind the reply from Sahab about quoting things more than once, and that means that they will not be marked as such. 
4) "Pleasant Company" suggests carnal pleasures but do not state them as such. That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. 
5) Where more than one verse is quoted I make the new verse start on a new line. That is why the layout looks different from the original page. 

:You shouldnt be seeing any heated discussions from me :) not at least this soon in the discussion and even then I try to be calm and rational.
:In my opinion we should not be putting this much organization work into a page which is already far from complete and is missing out on so many good things in the hadiths and scholars. Only after we get a nice collection we can think of the headings. As for the Virgins verse being included in a "Pleasant company" this sounds like something an apologist would do. We dont want to hide what is an obviously Carnal pleasure described in the Quran (78:33 for example).
:No your page is not better because hiding a verse like this is not better than not having any headings at all.
:''"That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. "'' - why not? You didnt explain the "why". 78:33 is a Carnal pleasure and that is what we want to highlight. We might as well delete [[72 Virgins]] and retitle that to "Company of pleasant Women as described in the Quran". Obviously we cannot do that.
:Your suggestions are exactly why I think it is best to keep new editors restricted to Sandboxes until they show they understand the mission of the site or what the appropriate thing to do is. Side note: We are lucky that a person like Sahab happened upon the site. I dont know what shape the site would be in if that didn't happen. Even then we all have disagreements on one issue or the other (thats ok, it happens all the time in any situation). Any way:
:Repeating blocks verses is not a good idea. Not until we start collecting all the good stuff in hadiths and scholars and that is one point I brought up before as being the first thing that should be done and you have not addressed that. We are not in a hurry to improve this page so the additional stuff should be brought in first and headings and the issue of duplicate text can be dealt with later. When we do get those additional items, the heading "Carnal pleasures" will make perfect sense. There's already a collection of the 72 virgins hadiths (72 virgins, ever erect penises and appetizing vaginas etc) that can be repeated in the Carnal pleasures section. I'm sure there are many other things that can be found. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:06, 19 September 2014 (PDT)

::Axius, my knowledge is about the Qur'an and this is the scripture with most authority. To include the Hadith and Scholars is ambitious to say the least, and they have less authority. Most Muslims will have a Qur'an but I doubt that of the Hadith. This would take too much of my time to go through that. I thought I give you a hand with pages concerning the Qur'an. If you can convincingly debunk that "literal word of God", then whole Islam collapses. The Qur'an makes perfectly sense as a tool for a ruthless gangster, to create a submissive gang. I am gathering info for an essay on that and hope to publish it here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:51, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:::''"To include the Hadith and Scholars is ambitious to say the least, and they have less authority."'' - oh wow. You do notice that the Page title says "Quran, '''Hadith and scholars'''". And now you're saying we shouldnt include hadiths and scholars on that page? lol. What about the other QHS pages? Do you think we should delete all hadiths and scholars in other QHS pages (for example [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Women QHS women]), yes or no?
:::Keeping in mind your previous actions and edits (1. Virgins verse is listed under "Furniture", 2. "QHS should not have any hadiths and scholars". 3. Using a translator's word in brackets for a new section but that is much more forgiveable than 1 and 2 and you continue to defend #1), honestly I dont think this site is the place for you, but you are very welcome to keep working on Sandbox and in fact I encourage that because maybe one day you may understand how we work and the approach we use here and you may improve.
:::Also can you explain why you added the Ransom section? Are you aware that words in brackets for translators are not actual arabic words? They use those to explain things in their own words. We cannot use those words for anything significant such as making a new heading (I repeat, the arabic word Ransom is not mentioned in that verse but anyone correct me if I'm wrong).
:::From now on please refrain from editing main space articles any further. You can work on Sandbox articles in whatever way you want. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:20, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
::::'''"my knowledge is about the Qur'an and this is the scripture with most authority"''' Jansen, you do realize that Sunnis are actually named after the literature you wish to dismiss (Sirah + Hadith = Muhammad's [[Sunnah]])? And also the fact that there are hadith that [[Stoning|overrule the words of the Qur'an]] (well, I and Muslims would say a better way to describe it is "supplement" its words)? Muslims may revere the Qur'an a lot more than the hadith, but to claim it has "more authority" is debatable. I agree with Axius. To suggest the hadith and scholars should be left out of a QHS page is ridiculous. They are valid religious texts that hold more value to the everyday life of a Muslim than the Qur'an ever will. And there is nothing at all "ambitious" about it. The wiki already has plenty of pages that cover all relevant religious texts (e.g. [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Lying_and_Deception Lying]). And this is coming from someone who wishes for "completeness".

::::Going back to an earlier point, rather than calling that section "Pleasant Company" or "Carnal Pleasures", I would go simply with "Sexuality". It is clinical and to the point, like how it should be. LOL both "Pleasant Company" and "Carnal Pleasures" sounds so theatrical, like as if I'm reading something written by Shakespeare :) [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:49, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:::::Lol yea, I guess it was just an improvement attempt over "Pleasant company" to drive the point across to him that we need something to highlight that stuff. Yea Sexuality is better and matches the rest of what we have. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 17:26, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

== Proposed addition to contradictions in the Qur'an ==
Sharp contrast towards the people of the book.
===The People of the Book are right===
Yes
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|43}}| The Unbelievers say: "No messenger art thou." Say: "Enough for a witness between me and you is Allah, and such as have knowledge of the Book." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|46}}| And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}
No
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|65|end=69|style=ref}}|Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding? 
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not! 
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. 
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. 
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive! }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|71|end=73|style=ref}}| Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? 
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back; 
"And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things." }}

I collected some of quotes about the people of the book on [[User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/People_of_the_Book_in_the_Qur%27an]] so you can shop around there. This is a page in the making. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 
:You can work with Saggy on QHS issues. He has some pages about that in his sandbox. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:09, 19 September 2014 (PDT)
::I could not find the page you mean. [[Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:People_of_the_Book ]] from Sahab comes closest but it does not have it organized, so the contrast is unclear. 10:94 is missing there too. Saggy's page does not have a sandbox page about this as far as I can see. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:59, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

== QHS should not include hadiths and scholars? ==

This was worthy of having its own section. [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APW._Jansen&diff=109769&oldid=109759 Here] you say that QHS:Heaven should not have hadiths and scholars. Its definitely one of the strangest things I've heard from an editor here. The page title is clearly "Quran '''hadith and scholars'''" and we have about 50 or 100 existing QHS pages which are full of hadiths and scholars. ([http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Category:QHS 79] to be exact)

So should we remove all hadiths and verses from [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Women QHS women?] Yes or No? Thats the question you should respond to. If its a "no", why should we have them at QHS:women but not at QHS:Heaven? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:41, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:: No Axius, but I think organizing should start before it is complete. The Qur'an is the most authoritative source for Muslims, and if that part is up to level we can organize it, giving it headers, so searching is easier. Waiting with organizing until it is all complete would take too long, and would make the site less convenient to use. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 03:18, 23 September 2014 (PDT)

== No more main space edits - Edits removed ==

I have reverted all or most of your previous edits. We cannot compromise on site quality. Saying that a QHS page (which is '''TITLED''' Hadiths and Scholars) should not have hadiths on it is a serious mistake for logical thinking. The same is the case for listing a verse about Virgins in a section called "Furniture" and then suggesting your version of the page is better than the existing one which doesn't have any headings at all and that was after I pointed out the issue. There are other issues with your editing that others have seen.

This site cannot accept edits from people who make thinking mistakes like that (if it was correctable or something they realized it would be another issue) and we do not have the time to review such a person's edits on main space.

[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&diff=109790&oldid=109453 These] are edits of yours that I removed for QHS:non-Muslims. Please work in a Sandbox and work with us to get these edits into main space so we can be sure they are all 100% correct because I would definitely like to see them into main space but only after they are reviewed.

Once again, do not edit any more main space articles. Again you are welcome to edit your own Sandboxes (do not edit main space Sandboxes, which means pages beginning with 'WikiIslam:Sandbox' ...). Let me know if you have any questions or if I wasn't clear about something.

We have a new policy in any case that tells new editors not to edit main space. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 05:20, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Miscellaneous

2014-09-22T10:07:32Z

PW. Jansen: /* Magic and Mysticism addition of Ransom quotes as suggested by Sahab 25 Aug '14 on Axius talk page */

{{QuranHadithScholarsIndex}}
==Abortion==

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|7|71|654}}|Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle gave his verdict about two ladies of the Hudhail tribe who had fought each other and one of them had hit the other with a stone. The stone hit her abdomen and as she was pregnant, the blow killed the child in her womb. They both filed their case with '''the Prophet and he judged that the blood money for what was in her womb. was a slave or a female slave'''. The guardian of the lady who was fined said, '''"O Allah's Apostle! Shall I be fined for a creature that has neither drunk nor eaten, neither spoke nor cried? A case like that should be nullified." On that the Prophet said, "This is one of the brothers of soothsayers.'''|See also {{Bukhari|7|71|655}}}}
{{Quote|{{Bukhari|8|80|732}}|Narrated Abu Huraira: '''Allah's Apostle gave the judgment that a male or female slave should be given in Qisas for an abortion case of a woman from the tribe of Bani Lihyan (as blood money for the fetus)''' but the lady on whom the penalty had been imposed died, so the Prophets ordered that her property be inherited by her offspring and her husband and that the penalty be paid by her Asaba.}}

==Adult Suckling==

{{Quote|{{Muslim|8|3425}}|'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon '''Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him''', and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. '''She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared'''.|}}

{{Quote|{{Ibn Majah|9|3|9|1944}}|It was narrated that 'Aishah said:

“'''The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed''', and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and '''a tame sheep came in and ate it'''.” (Hasan)}}

{{Quote|{{Ibn Majah|9|3|9|1943}}|It was narrated that 'Aishah said:

“Sahlah bint Suhail came to the Prophet and said: 'O Messenger of Allah, I see signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhaifah when Salim enters upon me.” '''The Prophet said: “Breastfed him.” She said: “How can I breastfeed him when he is a grown man? The Messenger of Allah smiled and said: “I know that he is a grown man.” So she did that''', then she came to the Prophet and said: “I have never seen any signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhayfah after that.” And he was present at (the battle of) Badr. (Sahih)}}

{{Quote|{{Ibn Majah|9|3|9|1942}}|It was narrated that 'Aishah said:

“Once of the things that Allah revealed in the the Qur'an and then abrogated was that '''nothing makes marriage prohibited except ten breastfeedings or five well-known (breastfeedings''').” (Sahih)}}

{{Quote|{{Muwatta|30|3|17}}|Yahya related to me from Malik from Abdullah ibn Abi Bakr ibn Hazm from Amra bint Abd ar-Rahman that A'isha, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "'''Amongst what was sent down of the Qur'an was 'ten known sucklings make haram' - then it was abrogated by 'five known sucklings'.''' When the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, died, it was what is now recited of the Qur'an."

Yahya said that Malik said, "One does not act on this."}}

==Allahu Akbar==

The phrase "[[Allahu Akbar]]" translated correctly into English by Muslims.

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|52|195}}|Narrated Anas:

The Prophet set out for Khaibar and reached it at night. He used not to attack if he reached the people at night, till the day broke. So, when the day dawned, the Jews came out with their bags and spades. When they saw the Prophet; they said, "Muhammad and his army!" '''The Prophet said, Allahu--Akbar! (Allah is Greater)''' and Khaibar is ruined, for whenever we approach a nation (i.e. enemy to fight) then it will be a miserable morning for those who have been warned."}}

{{Quote|1=[http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muwatta/015.mmt.html#015.15.7.22 Al-Muwatta 15:15:7:22]|2=Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu Ubayd, the mawla of Sulayman ibn Abd al-Malik, from Ata ibn Yazid al-Laythi that Abu Hurayra said, "Whoever says 'Glory be to Allah' (Subhana'llah) thirty-three times and ''''Allah is Greater' (Allahu akbar)''' thirty-three times and 'Praise be to Allah' (al-hamdu lillah) thirty-three times, and seals the hundred with 'There is no god but Allah, alone without any partner. The Kingdom and praise belong to Him and He has power over everything' (La ilaha illa'llah, wahdahu la sharika lah, lahu'l mulku wa lahu'l hamd, wa huwa ala kulli shay'in qadir) after every prayer will have his wrong actions forgiven him even if they are abundant as the foam on the sea."}}

{{Quote|1=[http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muwatta/049.mmt.html#049.49.10.34 Al-Muwatta 49:49:10:34]|2=Yahya related to me from Malik from Hisham ibn Urwa that his father never brought food or drink, nor even a remedy which he ate or drank but that he said, "Praise be to Allah who has guided us and fed us and given us to drink and blessed us. '''Allah is greater'''. O Allah! We have found Your blessing with every evil, give us every good in the morning and evening. We ask You for its completion and its gratitude. There is no good except Your good. There is no god other than You, the God of the salihun and the Lord of the Worlds. Praise be to Allah. There is no god but Allah. What Allah wills. There is no power except in Allah. O Allah! Bless us in what You have provided us with and protect us from the punishment of the Fire!"
 
Al-hamdu lillahi-lladhi hadana wa at amana wa saqana wa naamana. '''Allahu akbar'''. Allahumma'l fatna nimatik bi-kulli sharr. Fa asbahna minha wa amsayna bi-kulli khayr. Nasaluka tamamaha wa shukraha. La khayr illa khayruk. Wa la ilaha ghayruk. Ilaha'-saliheen wa rabba'l-alameen. Al-hamdu lillah. Wa la ilaha illa'llah. Ma sha'Allah. Wa la quwwata illa billah. Allahumma barik lana fima razaqtana. Waqina adhaba'n-na}}

==Beating Children==

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|2|494}}|Narrated As-Saburah: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Command a boy to pray when he reaches the age of seven years. When he becomes ten years old, then '''beat him''' for prayer.}}

{{Quote|{{Abudawud|2|495}}|Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:

The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) said: Command your children to pray when they become seven years old, and '''beat them''' for it (prayer) when they become ten years old; and arrange their beds (to sleep) separately.}}

{{Quote|{{cite web quotebox|url= http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=3&ID=3106&CATE=335|title= Hitting Children: When is it allowed? What are the limits?|publisher= Qibla|author= Shaykh Amjad Rasheed|date= |series= Question ID:3106|archiveurl= http://archive.is/4n57p|deadurl=no}}|It is not permissible for anyone to hit a child except for the wali [s. guardian] such as the father, the grandfather and like them, the mother, or a wasi [s. authorized agent], and he is someone to whom the guardian entrusts the child for guardianship, or the qayyim [s. caretaker] and that is someone who is charged by a judge to guard the child when the wali is lost and if the wali never charged someone to be the child's wasi. It is permissible for these people to hit for reasons of [s. the child's] learning and bad manners even if these don't involve disobedience as has come in the Tuhfa and Hashiyat al-Sharwani (179/9). They may also hit him when he reaches ten years of age, for not praying and fasting and so forth, which the wali must tell him to do so that he becomes accustomed to them, likewise, [a. he can be hit] when he does anything haram that the wali has told him to avoid so that he can get accustomed to [s. avoiding] them.}}

==Celibacy==

{{Quote|{{Ibn Majah|9|3|9|1849}}|It was narrated from Samurah that:

'''the Messenger of Allah forbade celibacy'''. Zaid bin Akhzam added: “And Qatadah recited: 'And indeed We sent Messengers before you (O Muhammad ), and made for them wives and offspring.'”(Sahih)}}

{{Quote|{{Ibn Majah|9|3|9|1848}}|It was narrated that:

Sa'd said: “'''The Messenger of Allah disapproved of Uthman bin Maz'un's desire to remain celibate'''; if he had given him permission, we would have gotten ourselves castrated.” (Sahih)}}

{{Quote|{{Ibn Majah|9|3|9|1846}}|It was narrated from Aishah that:

the Messenger of Allah said: “'''Marriage is part of my sunnah, and whoever does not follow my sunnah has nothing to do with me'''. Get married, for I will boast of your great numbers before the nations. Whoever has that means, let him get married, and whoever does not, then he should fast for it will diminish his desire.” (Hasan)}}

==Chess==

{{Quote|{{Muslim|28|5612}}|Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: He who played chess is like one who dyed his hand with the flesh and blood of swine.}}
{{Quote|{{Muwatta|52|2|7|}}|Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi from Abdullah ibn Umar that when he found one of his family playing dice he beat him and destroyed the dice.
Yahya said that he heard Malik say, "There is no good in chess, and he disapproved of it." Yahya said, "I heard him disapprove of playing it and other worthless games. He recited this ayat, 'What is there after the truth except going the wrong way.' " (Sura l0 ayat 32).}}

==Children==

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|2|494}}|Narrated As-Saburah: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Command a boy to pray when he reaches the age of seven years. When he becomes ten years old, then beat him for prayer.|See also {{Abu Dawud|2|495}}, {{Abu Dawud|2|497}}}}

==Countermanding==

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|3|47|792}}|Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab: I gave a horse in Allah's Cause. The person to whom it was given, did not look after it. I intended to buy it from him, thinking that he would sell it cheap. When I asked the Prophet he said, "Don't buy it, even if he gives it to you for one Dirham, as the person who takes back what he has given in charity, is like a dog that swallows back its vomit."|See Also
{{Bukhari|3|47|762}}, {{Bukhari|3|47|791}}, {{Bukhari|4|52|247}}, {{Bukhari|9|86|105}}, {{Muslim|12|3949}}, {{Muslim|12|3950}}, {{Muslim|12|3951}}, {{Muslim|12|3952}}, {{Muslim|12|3953}}, {{Muslim|12|3954}}, {{Muslim|12|3955}}, {{Muslim|12|3956}}, {{Muslim|12|3957}}, {{Muslim|12|3958}}, {{Muslim|12|3959}}, {{Muslim|12|3960}}, {{Abu Dawud|23|3532}}, {{Abu Dawud|23|3533}}, {{Muwatta|17|26|50|}}}}

==Discouraging Independent Thinking ==

{{ quote |{{Bukhari|9|92|466}} |
Narrated Jundab bin 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "Recite (and study) the Quran as long as you are in agreement as to its interpretation and meanings, but when you have differences regarding its interpretation and meanings, then you should stop reciting it (for the time being.) (See Hadith No 581, Vol. 6) }}
{{ quote |{{Bukhari|9|92|467}} |
Narrated Jundab bin 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "Recite (and study) the Qur'an as long as your hearts are in agreement as to its meanings, but if you have differences as regards its meaning, stop reading it then." }}

==Fasting==

Muhammad acknowledges an [[Adverse Effects of Islamic Fasting|adverse effect of Islamic fasting]].

{{Quote| {{Bukhari|3|31|129}}|"While I was walking with 'Abdullah he said, "We were in the company of the Prophet and he said, 'He who can afford to marry should marry, because it will help him refrain from looking at other women, and save his private parts from looking at other women, and save his private parts from committing illegal sexual relation; and he who cannot afford to marry is advised to fast, as '''fasting will diminish his sexual power'''."}}

==Five Pillars of Islam==

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|1|2|7}}, See Also {{Bukhari|6|60|40}}, {{Muslim|1|9}}|
Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: Islam is based on (the following) five (principles):

1. To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Apostle. 2. To offer the (compulsory congregational) prayers dutifully and perfectly. 3. To pay Zakat (i.e. obligatory charity) . 4. To perform Hajj. (i.e. Pilgrimage to Mecca) 5. To observe fast during the month of Ramadan.}}

The five pillars were not always the same:

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|1|2|51}}|
Narrated Abu Jamra:

... He ordered them to believe in Allah Alone and asked them, "Do you know what is meant by believing in Allah Alone?" They replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." Thereupon the Prophet said, "It means:

1. To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Apostle. 2. To offer prayers perfectly 3. To pay the Zakat (obligatory charity) 4. To observe fast during the month of Ramadan. '''5. And to pay Al-Khumus (one fifth of the booty to be given in Allah's Cause)'''.}}

==Heaven==
{{Main|Heaven}}

===Characteristics of Heaven===

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|8|75|417}}|Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah 's Apostle said, "Allah has some angels who look for those who celebrate the Praises of Allah on the roads and paths. And when they find some people celebrating the Praises of Allah, they call each other, saying, "Come to the object of your pursuit.' " He added, "Then the angels encircle them with their wings up to the sky of the world." He added. "(after those people celebrated the Praises of Allah, and the angels go back), their Lord, asks them (those angels)----though He knows better than them----'What do My slaves say?' The angels reply, 'They say: Subhan Allah, Allahu Akbar, and Alham-du-lillah, Allah then says 'Did they see Me?' The angels reply, 'No! By Allah, they didn't see You.'

Allah says, How it would have been if they saw Me?' The angels reply, 'If they saw You, they would worship You more devoutly and celebrate Your Glory more deeply, and declare Your freedom from any resemblance to anything more often.' Allah says (to the angels), 'What do they ask Me for?' The angels reply, 'They ask You for Paradise.' Allah says (to the angels), 'Did they see it?' The angels say, 'No! By Allah, O Lord! They did not see it.' Allah says, How it would have been if they saw it?' The angels say, ''''If they saw it, they would have greater covetousness for it and would seek It with greater zeal and would have greater desire for it.'''' Allah says, 'From what do they seek refuge?' The angels reply, 'They seek refuge from the (Hell) Fire.' Allah says, 'Did they see it?' The angels say, 'No By Allah, O Lord! They did not see it.' Allah says, How it would have been if they saw it?' The angels say, 'If they saw it they would flee from it with the extreme fleeing and would have extreme fear from it.' Then Allah says, 'I make you witnesses that I have forgiven them."' Allah's Apostle added, "One of the angels would say, 'There was so-and-so amongst them, and he was not one of them, but he had just come for some need.' Allah would say, 'These are those people whose companions will not be reduced to misery.' " }}

===Bodily Needs In the Afterlife===

{{Quote|{{Muslim|40|6798}}|Jabir reported: I heard Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying that the inmates of Paradise would eat and drink but would neither spit, nor pass water, nor void excrement, nor suffer catarrah. It was said: Then, what would happen with food? Thereupon he said: They would belch and sweat (and it would be over with their food), and their sweat would be that of musk and they would glorify and praise Allah as easily as you breathe.}}

==Inheritance==

{{Quote|{{Muslim|11|3928}}|Usama b. Zaid reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A Muslim is not entitled to inherit from a non-Muslim, and a non-Muslim is not entitled to inherit from a Muslim.}}

==Khalid ibin al-Walid==

Khalid ibin al-Walid is one of the most celebrated and loved warriors in Islamic history. Muhammad gave him the title "[[Saifullah|Sword of Allah]]"

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|5|59|561}}|Narrated Anas: The Prophet had informed the people of the martyrdom of Zaid, Ja'far and Ibn Rawaha before the news of their death reached. The Prophet said, "Zaid took the flag (as the commander of the army) and was martyred, then Ja'far took it and was martyred, and then Ibn Rawaha took it and was martyred." At that time the Prophet's eyes were shedding tears. He added, "Then the flag was taken by a sword amongst the swords of Allah (i.e. khalid) and Allah made them (i.e. the Muslims) victorious." }}

Khalid was also a criminal who murdered innocent people during times of peace

{{Quote|Ibn Ishaq 833|The apostle sent out troops in the district round Mecca inviting men to god, he did not order them to fight. Among those he sent was Khalid bin Walid whom he ordered to go to the lower part of the flat country as a missionary; he did not send him to fight. He (Khalid) subdued Bani Jadhama and killed some of them.}}

{{Quote|Ibn Ishaq 834|Hakim bin Hakim bin Abad bin Hunayf from Abu Jafar Muhammad bin Ali said: When we took possession of Mecca the apostle sent Khalid forth as a missionary. He did not send him to fight. He had with him the Arab tribes Sulam bin Mansur and Mudlij Bin Murra, and they subdued Bani Jadhama Bin Amir bin Kinana. When the people saw him they grasped their weapons and Khalid said “Lay down your arms for everybody has accepted Islam”

A traditionist of Bani Jadhima who was one of four companions told me: When Khalid ordered us to lay down our arms one of our men called Jadham Said “Woe to you, Bani Jadhama! This is Khalid. If you lay down your arms you will be bound, and after you have been bound you will be beheaded. By god, I will never lay down my arms” Some of his people laid hold of him saying “Do you want to shed our blood? Everyone else has accepted Islam and laid down their arms; war is over and everybody safe.” They persisted to the point of taking away his arms, and they themselves laid down their arms at Khalid’s word.”

Hakim bin Hakim from Abu Jafar Muhammad bin Ali told me: As soon as they had laid down their arms Khalid ordered their hands to be tied behind their backs and put them to the sword, killing a number of them. When the news reached the apostle he raised his hands to heaven and said “O God, I am innocent before thee of what Khalid has done”}}

==Magic and Mysticism==
{{Quote|{{Bukhari|7|71|661}}|Narrated 'Aisha: Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he began to imagine that he had done something although he had not. One day while he was with me, he invoked Allah and invoked for a long period and then said, "O 'Aisha! Do you know that Allah has instructed me regarding the matter I asked Him about?" I asked, "What is that, O Allah's Apostle?" He said, "Two men came to me; one of them sat near my head and the other sat near my feet. One of them asked his companion, 'What is the disease of this man?' The other replied, 'He is under the effect of magic.' The first one asked, 'Who has worked magic on him?" The other replied, 'Labid bin A'sam, a Jew from the tribe of Bani Zuraiq.' The (first one asked), 'With what has it been done?' The other replied, 'With a a comb and the hair stuck to it and a skin of the pollen of a male datepalm tree.' The first one asked, 'Where is it?' The other replied, 'In the well of Dharwan.' Then the Prophet went along with some of his companions to that well and looked at that and there were date palms near to it. Then he returned to me and said, 'By Allah the water of that well was (red) like the infusion of Henna leaves and its date-palms were like the heads of devils" I said, O Allah's Apostle! Did you take those materials out of the pollen skin?" He said, 'No! As for me Allah has healed me and cured me and I was afraid that (by Showing that to the people) I would spread evil among them when he ordered that the well be filled up with earth, and it was filled up with earth "}}

==Ransom==
{{quote | {{cite quran|8|67|end=69|style=ref}} | It is not fitting for an apostle that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. Ye look for the temporal goods of this world; but Allah looketh to the Hereafter: And Allah is Exalted in might, Wise. 
Had it not been for a previous ordainment from Allah, a severe penalty would have reached you for the (ransom) that ye took. 
But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|4}}| Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost. }}

==Schisms Within the Ummah==

{{Quote|{{Muslim|20|4565}}|It has been narrated on the authority of 'Arfaja who said: I have heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: Different evils will make their appearance in the near future. '''Anyone who tries to disrupt the affairs of this Umma while they are united you should strike him with the sword whoever he be.''' (If remonstrance does not prevail with him and he does not desist from his disruptive activities, he is to be killed.|See Also {{Muslim|20|4566}}, {{Muslim|20|4567}}}}

==Secularism and Free-thought is Forbidden==

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|52}}|Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Qur'an).}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|54|496}}|Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "Satan comes to one of you and says, 'Who created so-and-so? 'till he says, 'Who has created your Lord?' So, when he inspires such a question, one should seek refuge with Allah and give up such thoughts."}}

==Silk==

Men are not allowed to wear or sit on silk.

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|2|15|69}}, See also: {{Bukhari|3|47|782}}, and {{Bukhari|8|73|104}}|Narrated 'Abdullah bin Umar:

Umar bought a silk cloak from the market, took it to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Take it and adorn yourself with it during the 'Id and when the delegations visit you." Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) replied, "This dress is for those who have no share (in the Hereafter)." After a long period Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) sent to Umar a cloak of silk brocade. Umar came to Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) with the cloak and said, "O Allah's Apostle! You said that this dress was for those who had no share (in the Hereafter); yet you have sent me this cloak." Allah's Apostle said to him, "Sell it and fulfill your needs by it."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|3|47|784}}, See also: {{Bukhari|7|64|279}}|Narrated 'Ali:

The Prophet gave me a silken dress as a gift and I wore it. When I saw the signs of anger on his face, I cut it into pieces and distributed it among my wives."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|3|47|785}}, see also: {{Bukhari|4|54|471}}|Narrated Anas:

A Jubba (i.e. cloak) made of thick silken cloth was presented to the Prophet. The Prophet used to forbid people to wear silk. So, the people were pleased to see it. The Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hands Muhammad's soul is, the handkerchiefs of Sad bin Mu'adh in Paradise are better than this." Anas added, "The present was sent to the Prophet by Ukaidir (a Christian) from Dauma."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|7|69|494}}|Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari:

that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers '''there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.''' And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' '''Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection'''."}}

==Weaponry in Islamic Flags==

The reason why so many Islamic flags have swords in them is due to the following Hadith:
{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|87|164}}|Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet said, "I saw in a dream that I waved a sword and it broke in the middle, and behold, that symbolized the casualties the believers suffered on the Day (of the battle) of Uhud. Then I waved the sword again, and it became better than it had ever been before, and behold, that symbolized the Conquest (of Mecca) which Allah brought about and the gathering of the believers. "}}

==Other Hadith==
{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|87|171}}|Narrated Samura bin Jundub:

Allah's Apostle very often used to ask his companions, "Did anyone of you see a dream?" So dreams would be narrated to him by those whom Allah wished to tell. One morning the Prophet said, "Last night two persons came to me (in a dream) and woke me up and said to me, 'Proceed!' I set out with them and we came across a man Lying down, and behold, another man was standing over his head, holding a big rock. Behold, he was throwing the rock at the man's head, injuring it. The rock rolled away and the thrower followed it and took it back. By the time he reached the man, his head returned to the normal state. The thrower then did the same as he had done before. I said to my two companions, 'Subhan Allah! Who are these two persons?' They said, 'Proceed!' So we proceeded and came to a man Lying flat on his back and another man standing over his head with an iron hook, and behold, he would put the hook in one side of the man's mouth and tear off that side of his face to the back (of the neck) and similarly tear his nose from front to back and his eye from front to back. Then he turned to the other side of the man's face and did just as he had done with the other side. He hardly completed this side when the other side returned to its normal state. Then he returned to it to repeat what he had done before. I said to my two companions, 'Subhan Allah! Who are these two persons?' They said to me, 'Proceed!' So we proceeded and came across something like a Tannur (a kind of baking oven, a pit usually clay-lined for baking bread)." I think the Prophet said, "In that oven t here was much noise and voices." The Prophet added, "We looked into it and found naked men and women, and behold, a flame of fire was reaching to them from underneath, and when it reached them, they cried loudly. I asked them, 'Who are these?' They said to me, 'Proceed!' And so we proceeded and came across a river." I think he said, ".... red like blood." The Prophet added, "And behold, in the river there was a man swimming, and on the bank there was a man who had collected many stones. Behold. while the other man was swimming, he went near him. The former opened his mouth and the latter (on the bank) threw a stone into his mouth whereupon he went swimming again. He returned and every time the performance was repeated, I asked my two companions, 'Who are these (two) persons?' They replied, 'Proceed! Proceed!' And we proceeded till we came to a man with a repulsive appearance, the most repulsive appearance, you ever saw a man having! Beside him there was a fire and he was kindling it and running around it. I asked my companions, 'Who is this (man)?' They said to me, 'Proceed! Proceed!' So we proceeded till we reached a garden of deep green dense vegetation, having all sorts of spring colors. In the midst of the garden there was a very tall man and I could hardly see his head because of his great height, and around him there were children in such a large number as I have never seen. I said to my companions, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'Proceed! Proceed!' So we proceeded till we came to a majestic huge garden, greater and better than I have ever seen! My two companions said to me, 'Go up and I went up' The Prophet added, "So we ascended till we reached a city built of gold and silver bricks and we went to its gate and asked (the gatekeeper) to open the gate, and it was opened and we entered the city and found in it, men with one side of their bodies as handsome as the handsomest person you have ever seen, and the other side as ugly as the ugliest person you have ever seen. My two companions ordered those men to throw themselves into the river. Behold, there was a river flowing across (the city), and its water was like milk in whiteness. Those men went and threw themselves in it and then returned to us after the ugliness (of their bodies) had disappeared and they became in the best shape." The Prophet further added, "My two companions (angels) said to me, 'This place is the Eden Paradise, and that is your place.' I raised up my sight, and behold, there I saw a palace like a white cloud! My two companions said to me, 'That (palace) is your place.' I said to them, 'May Allah bless you both! Let me enter it.' They replied, 'As for now, you will not enter it, but you shall enter it (one day) I said to them, 'I have seen many wonders tonight. What does all that mean which I have seen?' They replied, 'We will inform you: As for the first man you came upon whose head was being injured with the rock, he is the symbol of the one who studies the Quran and then neither recites it nor acts on its orders, and sleeps, neglecting the enjoined prayers. As for the man you came upon whose sides of mouth, nostrils and eyes were torn off from front to back, '''he is the symbol of the man who goes out of his house in the morning and tells so many lies that it spreads all over the world'''. And those naked men and women whom you saw in a construction resembling an oven, they are the adulterers and the adulteresses;, and the man whom you saw swimming in the river and given a stone to swallow, is the eater of usury (Riba) and the bad looking man whom you saw near the fire kindling it and going round it, is Malik, the gatekeeper of Hell and the tall man whom you saw in the garden, is Abraham and the children around him are those children who die with Al-Fitra (the Islamic Faith)." The narrator added: Some Muslims asked the Prophet, "O Allah's Apostle! What about the children of pagans?" The Prophet replied, "And also the children of pagans." The Prophet added, "My two companions added, 'The men you saw half handsome and half ugly were those persons who had mixed an act that was good with another that was bad, but Allah forgave them.'"}}

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User talk:PW. Jansen

2014-09-22T09:59:50Z

PW. Jansen: /* Proposed addition to contradictions in the Qur'an, reply to Axius */

==Thanks==
Thanks for your additions on that QHS page for Characteristics [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&action=history] and welcome to the site. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:51, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
:For your edit [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&curid=5621&diff=109317&oldid=109310 here], there's probably some others on that page that could also quality for what Allah thinks e.g.:
:: ''For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe.''
:So I guess the other 'Allah' ones could be moved to the new section or, have all of them in one big section like we had before. Not sure which one is the best. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:03, 18 August 2014 (PDT)
::If these existing sections were renamed "Allah thinks...." they would lose much of their impact and they would be IMO pretty inaccurate. In Islam, Allah is the law. If he thinks something, then it simply is. So, to Muslims in general, it's not simply "Allah thinks Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures," it is literally "Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures". [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:48, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

I agree with Sahab, but we do also write for non-Muslims who do not understand that "what Allah thinks" is equal to "it is". A line to explain this would help. Non-Muslims will look for the literal text. I will work on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 

:Ok we wont do it then. I'm also thinking its difficult to decide what the difference is for the verses where Allah thinks and where its the other case so yes, just keep it like that. Could you re-adjust the verses to flow with the rest of the content? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:41, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

::Jansen, you seemed to have missed the message above this one where Axius suggests that you replace the page to its original format (i.e. "Non-Muslims are.."). But, never-mind, I have done that myself.

::As I noted on my edit summaries, no need for adding <nowiki>*</nowiki> before a repeated verse because there will already be several QHS pages that repeat the same verses. But this is not a problem and does not need to be pointed out if the section that it is being repeated in focuses on a different aspect of those same verses. Another point you seemed to have missed is that your additions (worded as they are) have little to do with the subject matter of the page. Rather than remove them completely, I have moved them (with a few changes) to a more suitable page[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Non-Muslims#Allah]. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:14, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

==Leap year==
All I understood is that altering months of a calendar is forbidden. That is the Ramadan calendar. Which calendar is used for agriculture, the 365 days one? Is the gap of 10 or 11 days because of that leap year day (Feb 29)? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:24, 20 August 2014 (PDT)
:hi PW. Jansen, regarding [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Axius&diff=109322&oldid=109321 this] I'll reply here for continuity. Is there a Quranic verse for the calender issue? That could be used in the Scientific errors in the Quran article. In any case there could be a separate article on this. There could be information from Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_calendar lunar year] and/or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar Islamic calendar] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar#History History] section). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 07:36, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Thanks, I am not that familiar with the Wiki communication features so something may be rather inefficient. The Koranic verse here is 9:37: Verily the transposing (of a prohibited month) is an addition to Unbelief: the Unbelievers are led to wrong thereby: for they make it lawful one year, and forbidden another year, in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allah and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their course seems pleasing to them. But Allah guideth not those who reject Faith. 
Traditionally the Arab added a month every so many years to synchronize sun and moon calendar. This a rather coarse way but sun and moon calendar don't get out of synch completely like is the case now. see: http://islam.about.com/cs/calendar/a/hijrah_calendar.htm for the current one. For the older one e.g. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20837003?uid=3737536&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104072781421 (PW. Jansen)
:I read the link. So the old Arab calendar was replaced by a strict lunar calendar hence there is shortfall of 10 or 11 days from the 365-day year. Now can you clarify the error you found? Are you saying that a leap year situation should have been considered? And when, while creating this lunar calendar? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:39, 21 August 2014 (PDT)

Hi, My point is that Muhammad does not understand what it is for, and now the Muslims have to use two calendars, one for Ramadan (the lunar calendar imposed by Muhammad) and one for agriculture ( the solar calendar).
Quote from PDF:Calendars are basically of two types: lunar or non-lunar. Lunar calendars have months based on the cycle of the phases of the moon (the synodic month, ca. 29.53 days). Twelve lunar months will total an average of about 354 days and are thus roughly 11 days shorter than the true solar (tropical or sidereal) year of 365.2422 days. Most of the nations of the ancient world used lunisolar calendars, where the difference between the lunar and the solar year is compensated by periodically intercalating a thirteenth month. Non-lunar calendars are based on notional "months" with a fixed number of days and make no attempt to keep pace with the phases of the moon.
Link: https://cmes.uchicago.edu/sites/cmes.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/Middle%20Eastern%20Calendars.pdf

:We cant accuse Muhammad in the Scientific Errors in Qur'an article. The calendar clearly has some tiff. But it is a case of lack of explanation which Ax had said is not a scientific error. So if it is not meant for that article (decide), I have another place in the making [[WikiIslam:Sandbox/Logical Errors and Other Issues in the Qur'an]]. I think you should insert your point, with the verse. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:34, 25 August 2014 (PDT) For the boats, there is 31:31 already at the bottom of the sc. errors article. But i think the most blatant is 17.066 and 42:32 upto 34. So u may add them over there. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:55, 25 August 2014 (PDT) You can check for more errors in [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith]]. They are pending review. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 08:05, 25 August 2014 (PDT)

== "Pray to Muhammad" ==

Hi Jansen. I've removed the "[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Theology&diff=prev&oldid=109359 Pray to Muhammad]" section you added to "Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Islamic Theology". There were several problems:

1. The page is about Islamic theology, not Allah. Your comment about "One wonders, who answers Allah's prayers," shifts the focus from Muslim beliefs onto Allah's characteristics.

2. There is a big difference between "sending blessings" onto someone and praying to someone. A quick Google search brings up some interesting stuff, e.g. [http://www.hcna.us/columns/blessing.html]. Without reading anything about it, it is common sense to most, even outside an Islamic perspective, that being "blessed by God/gods" does not equate to being prayed to by God/gods. I've also heard this argument before. In fact others have tried to add it here and there in the past and it has always been removed. It is not an accurate criticism of Allah/Islam so does not belong here.

3. Even if we accepted the argument, we would not word it in the way you did. We try to approach things in a professional manner, so the sarcastic tone is not welcome.

I'm not on here very often now, but if you have any questions, I'll gladly answer them when I can. Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 21:26, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Okay I get it. I was confused by a Dutch translation which said literally "prayers of blessing" and I thought it depended on the translation. The verse is (IMHO) relevant because explains why Muslims refer to prophet Muhammad with pbuh.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 17:31, 21 August 2014 (PDT)
:No it is not relevant. That page is there to explain some of the major theology so people better understand how Muslims approach their texts (Qur'an, Hadith and Sunnah). Something as insignificant as the use of (PBUH) does not qualify. In fact that verse on its own explains little. All it says it to respect him, but a religious group being told to respect its founder is hardly illuminating. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:28, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

== New additions/reviews ==

I have made a section ''Changes in calendar'' in my sandbox. You might want to add all that comes to your mind from the forbidden 1 month to the leap year day. I listed more errors. if you find them correct, we will tell admins to add them. 
(Addition Jansen: I presume this was said by [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith ]] at 03:14, 29 August 2014 by WikiIslam user )
I would add that because of this change Ramadan shifts every year, 10 to 11 days earlier, and keeps shifting. And because of this change Muhammad made Muslims needed a separate calendar for agriculture. FYI I have no knowledge of the Hadith, I have a manuscript on the morals of Muhammad as comes forward in the Qur'an, and was not focused on scientific errors. 
I found these missing about the sky [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#Sky_is_a_Tent.2FDome|Link]] 

17:92 "Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou sayest (will happen), against us; or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face: 
22:65 Seest thou not that Allah has made subject to you (men) all that is on the earth, and the ships that sail through the sea by His Command? He withholds the sky (rain) from failing on the earth except by His leave: for Allah is Most Kind and Most Merciful to man. 
26:187 "Now cause a piece of the sky to fall on us, if thou art truthful!" 
31:10 He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.
(You might be tempted to use the last one as nonsense on "pairs" but I found translations differ widely on this point.) 
50:6 Do they not look at the sky above them?- How We have made it and adorned it, and there are no flaws in it? 
52:44 Were they to see a piece of the sky falling (on them), they would (only) say: "Clouds gathered in heaps!" 
 
Together with the ones already in there are so many it deserves a separate header. Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?

About the flat earth, the following are missing on the [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#The_Earth_is_Flat|scientific errors page]]: 
13:3 And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider! 
15:19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance. 
51:48 And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out! 
79:30 notice how much the translations differ: 
YUSUFALI: And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); 
PICKTHAL: And after that He spread the earth, 
SHAKIR: And the earth, He expanded it after that. 
Again: Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?
--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 00:07, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:When replying, add one colon before you start the paragraph. If there is already somebody else's reply, every next reply must add one more colon. No need to write your name in the first sentence. You don't need any special knowledge of hadith. Just start reading and searching them for any topic. About sky: I think 22:65 should be in the same sky section but not Yusuf ali's words. Pickthall and shakir are correct because they dont write "rain" and it is not in the Arabic text. "Pillars" and "A piece of sky can fall on them" is present. Adding the same verses if they dont strengthen the article? Not sure but I was discouraged from doing it. Some sections will have a rolling list of verses. There is variety in the added sky verses so that each of them strengthen the claim of sky being a solid dome over earth. [[Flat Earth and the Quran]] article has most of the flat verses with Arabic word meanings. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:57, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
::Ok, so there is a much more extensive page on the flat earth, but not a cross link from the scientific errors page. About completeness or not I prefer to be complete. It is after all supposed to be an encyclopedia. And you avoid discussions what verse should be cited. And when it is not about science but priorities one can get a better sense of what is important in the Quran. But I don't set the standard here. I think YUSUFALI was not a good choice as the main reference for wikiislam, he differs significantly from most other translators. It seems he tried to create something more acceptable. But I also realize that any choice has its problems and controversy. When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this? Since it is, I think rightly, practice here to cite only one translation here: YUSUFALI.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:54, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:::1. There is a cross-link right there, under the heading, "[[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#The_Earth_is_Flat|The Earth is Flat]]". Click on the link and see for yourself (it quite clearly says, "Main Article: Flat Earth and the Qur'an").
:::2. When has this site claimed it was only an encyclopaedia? As the [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines|policies]] state, "''WikiIslam is not restricted to only being an encyclopedia of Islam. It is there for editors to make use of in contributing and arranging information about Islam in many ways. For example, compiling news, translating media, making lists, collecting images and videos, counter-apologetics, hosting online books and other documents, and so on.''"

:::A list of scientific errors in the Qur'an is clearly not intended to be an Encyclopedic page. Every page has its own requirements. Yes, that page should aim be a "complete" list, but it was never meant to contain a comprehensive analysis of each entry. If it did, that page would be outrageously lengthy and the resulting wall of text would pretty much turn everyone away. That is left to the cross-linked stand-alone pages.

:::3. A quick look through the FAQ (something that all editors should really try at least once), would show that you are in error. If you look under, "[[WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#Sources Used|Sources Used]]," it says, "'''''What Qur'an translation do you use?''' Unless otherwise stated, we use the respected and widely accepted translations of Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthal or M. H. Shakir. All Qur'an quotes are taken from the University of Southern California Muslim Students Association's Compendium of Muslim Texts.''"

:::The Pickthal and Shakir translations are both very good translations. Those three were chosen because they are the most readily available and accepted. What is the point of quoting the Qur'an if Muslims won't even accept the translations used? None whatsoever. All that is asked of the editor is to limit his use of translations to one per section/error, since using multiple translations in a single section may appear disingenuous. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 00:35, 8 September 2014 (PDT)

::::To Sahab, indeed I overlooked that link looking in the sky part. About the translation used here in wiki the part chronological order [[Chronological_Order_of_the_Qur'an]]shows the YusufAli translation and this one is here often used when quoted here. I know the standard link is to three translations. Perhaps you can answer my question "When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this?" and with this I mean not quoting from YusufAli but from the other two. Just mention the translator like this?
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|5}}|PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. }}
::::As far as completeness is concerned this does not only matter scientific errors. The answer Saggy got was more or less the answer you gave me about Zakat quotes. We simply disagree on this. And as I stated I realize I do not set the standard here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:15, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

:::::Hardly, Jansen. The answer Saggy received concerning scientific errors and the answer I gave you concerning Zakat quotes were definitely not "more or less" the same. If they were, then please enlighten me on how it was so.

:::::One page (Zakat) had a particular point to make (about non-Muslims and terrorism) and your suggestion of having all the mundane verses mentioned simply to point out the fact that Allah (aka Prophet Muhammad) asked often for money, and rarely for good causes, would have buried it underneath something that belongs in an essay. The other page (scientific errors) is meant as a quick and easy-to-read list of errors that can lead off to more in-depth pages. Making them "complete" with all verses, even tafsir, hadith etc. as some editors have tried, would leave the list no longer "quick and easy-to-read."

:::::Yeah, I'm still not seeing how my answers were "more or less" the same, unless you're referring to the fact that I basically said "no" to both suggestions. We do not "simply disagree." I've fully explained why your ideas are wrong for this site. And it is not an issue of ''standards''. I can assure you that no one sets standards higher here than I do. It is a matter of appropriateness, style, usefulness, intent and a whole lot of other factors.

:::::Concerning your translation query, if the quoted translation is one of the three, then there is no need to mention it at all. That verse you quoted is pretty much the same across all three. If there does happen to be a massive difference in meaning for a certain verse, then it's probably best to bring the issue up with Axius. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 04:43, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

== Heaven organized ==
I made a new page in my dir and I want to organize what heavenly promises are made in the Qur'an
[[User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven in the Qur'an]]
:If you want to fill just quotes and no content of your own, there is a QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. Why not organise there? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 13:55, 9 September 2014 (PDT)
::The page I made was initially a copy/paste from that page, but I noticed I too easily create irritation. So let someone have a look at it first and then copy/paste it to that page QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. I made it to replace that page. There were only a few quotes added. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:48, 10 September 2014 (PDT)
I saw your email now. For one [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven_in_the_Qur%27an#Furniture], this verse is listed in the Furniture section:
:''And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- ''
Your organization effort is nice but I think its far from complete due to the fact that I found this verse in the furniture section (this is a serious error as this verse deserves to be in another new section such as .. "Carnal Pleasures", for example) and this certain verse is the kind that we would want to highlight. So yea I think its a great effort to create those headings but you could re-think what kind of sections you want to have. There are many Heaven related verses so we have to decide what we want to show, why we want to show it and how.

The other thing is that this page only contains Quranic verses and we know that a lot of good stuff is found in Hadiths, or scholar quotes. For example see source #15 [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Numbers_of_Islam#cite_note-15 here]. That source may have additional quotes on Heaven so you could search "Mishkat al-Masabih Paradise and Hell" for example or just "Mishkat al-Masabih".

[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness QHS:Silliness] has some for example [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#A_Tree_which_is_25.5_million_miles_wide tree], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Islamic_Heaven:_.22appetizing_vaginas.22_and_.22ever-erect.22_penises this of course], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Believers_will_enter_paradise_even_if_they_have_had_illegal_sexual_intercourse_or_committed_theft believers will enter ...]. etc.

So its a pretty big project making this page complete or better. I know the present shape of the page is also about the same as yours (except for the headings issue) but its a nice important page. If we can find all the Carnal/Ridiculous/Funny issues for Islamic heaven, thats what I'd like to see there at least (in addition to what we already have in the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Heaven existing QHS:Heaven] page). So let me know what you think about how this should be approached because there are a lot of sources to investigate. I would suggest searching for "Jannah/Janna/Heaven/Paradise" in Hadith websites and scholar websites (Islam QA) and start collecting anything that is of interest. Also check out other websites for example [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:faithfreedom.org FFI], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:islam-watch.org Islam-watch], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=heaven+site:thereligionofpeace.com theReligionofpeace.com], etc. etc. Of course we only want any relevant quotes from the original sources, not the commentary from these other websites.

The first step would be to search and collect all Heaven related verses, hadiths and scholar quotes or at least the important ones that we want to show, and then the next step is to organize them. Quran 56:36, 78:33 and others (like the #15 reference there which is a hadith) can be in the "Carnal Pleasures" section for example. So yea its a pretty big project but here you go. Thats my input on this. I think I've seen our original page before and did feel it wasnt complete so if you can work on it that would be nice. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 14:00, 18 September 2014 (PDT)

::: Thanks for you reply Axius. I know the page is far from complete, and it is a reorganization of the original page, this means that I did not cut back on blocks of quotations, that is why the carnal pleasures were include in the furniture section. The same block of text is in the "Garden" section and in the "Pleasant Company" section. It is a matter of choice if you want to cut it back to the part that only contains "Furniture". Before a heated discussion rises again, let's all realize that any grouping is controversial. Dealing with issues one by one: 
1) Do you or another editor agree with my choice that a whole section of Qur'an is included even if only one sentence refers to subject in the header? Or do you think only that very sentence should be quoted. Like the issue you mentioned: should the whole "heavenly" quote from the Qur'an, including the "pleasant company" part be quoted under the "furniture" section even if only one sentence in it refers to furniture? 
2) If my page is better than the original it is best to copy it asap to the old heaven page, to avoid that one has to maintain two pages on the same subject. No quote has been left out from the original page. 
3) I kept in mind the reply from Sahab about quoting things more than once, and that means that they will not be marked as such. 
4) "Pleasant Company" suggests carnal pleasures but do not state them as such. That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. 
5) Where more than one verse is quoted I make the new verse start on a new line. That is why the layout looks different from the original page. 

:You shouldnt be seeing any heated discussions from me :) not at least this soon in the discussion and even then I try to be calm and rational.
:In my opinion we should not be putting this much organization work into a page which is already far from complete and is missing out on so many good things in the hadiths and scholars. Only after we get a nice collection we can think of the headings. As for the Virgins verse being included in a "Pleasant company" this sounds like something an apologist would do. We dont want to hide what is an obviously Carnal pleasure described in the Quran (78:33 for example).
:No your page is not better because hiding a verse like this is not better than not having any headings at all.
:''"That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. "'' - why not? You didnt explain the "why". 78:33 is a Carnal pleasure and that is what we want to highlight. We might as well delete [[72 Virgins]] and retitle that to "Company of pleasant Women as described in the Quran". Obviously we cannot do that.
:Your suggestions are exactly why I think it is best to keep new editors restricted to Sandboxes until they show they understand the mission of the site or what the appropriate thing to do is. Side note: We are lucky that a person like Sahab happened upon the site. I dont know what shape the site would be in if that didn't happen. Even then we all have disagreements on one issue or the other (thats ok, it happens all the time in any situation). Any way:
:Repeating blocks verses is not a good idea. Not until we start collecting all the good stuff in hadiths and scholars and that is one point I brought up before as being the first thing that should be done and you have not addressed that. We are not in a hurry to improve this page so the additional stuff should be brought in first and headings and the issue of duplicate text can be dealt with later. When we do get those additional items, the heading "Carnal pleasures" will make perfect sense. There's already a collection of the 72 virgins hadiths (72 virgins, ever erect penises and appetizing vaginas etc) that can be repeated in the Carnal pleasures section. I'm sure there are many other things that can be found. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:06, 19 September 2014 (PDT)

::Axius, my knowledge is about the Qur'an and this is the scripture with most authority. To include the Hadith and Scholars is ambitious to say the least, and they have less authority. Most Muslims will have a Qur'an but I doubt that of the Hadith. This would take too much of my time to go through that. I thought I give you a hand with pages concerning the Qur'an. If you can convincingly debunk that "literal word of God", then whole Islam collapses. The Qur'an makes perfectly sense as a tool for a ruthless gangster, to create a submissive gang. I am gathering info for an essay on that and hope to publish it here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:51, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

== Proposed addition to contradictions in the Qur'an ==
Sharp contrast towards the people of the book.
===The People of the Book are right===
Yes
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|43}}| The Unbelievers say: "No messenger art thou." Say: "Enough for a witness between me and you is Allah, and such as have knowledge of the Book." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|46}}| And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}
No
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|65|end=69|style=ref}}|Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding? 
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not! 
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. 
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. 
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive! }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|71|end=73|style=ref}}| Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? 
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back; 
"And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things." }}

I collected some of quotes about the people of the book on [[User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/People_of_the_Book_in_the_Qur%27an]] so you can shop around there. This is a page in the making. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 
:You can work with Saggy on QHS issues. He has some pages about that in his sandbox. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:09, 19 September 2014 (PDT)
::I could not find the page you mean. [[Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:People_of_the_Book ]] from Sahab comes closest but it does not have it organized, so the contrast is unclear. 10:94 is missing there too. Saggy's page does not have a sandbox page about this as far as I can see. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:59, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

User talk:PW. Jansen

2014-09-22T09:51:43Z

PW. Jansen: /* Heaven organized reply to Axius */

==Thanks==
Thanks for your additions on that QHS page for Characteristics [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&action=history] and welcome to the site. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:51, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
:For your edit [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Characteristics_of_Non-Muslims&curid=5621&diff=109317&oldid=109310 here], there's probably some others on that page that could also quality for what Allah thinks e.g.:
:: ''For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe.''
:So I guess the other 'Allah' ones could be moved to the new section or, have all of them in one big section like we had before. Not sure which one is the best. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:03, 18 August 2014 (PDT)
::If these existing sections were renamed "Allah thinks...." they would lose much of their impact and they would be IMO pretty inaccurate. In Islam, Allah is the law. If he thinks something, then it simply is. So, to Muslims in general, it's not simply "Allah thinks Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures," it is literally "Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures". [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:48, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

I agree with Sahab, but we do also write for non-Muslims who do not understand that "what Allah thinks" is equal to "it is". A line to explain this would help. Non-Muslims will look for the literal text. I will work on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 

:Ok we wont do it then. I'm also thinking its difficult to decide what the difference is for the verses where Allah thinks and where its the other case so yes, just keep it like that. Could you re-adjust the verses to flow with the rest of the content? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:41, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

::Jansen, you seemed to have missed the message above this one where Axius suggests that you replace the page to its original format (i.e. "Non-Muslims are.."). But, never-mind, I have done that myself.

::As I noted on my edit summaries, no need for adding <nowiki>*</nowiki> before a repeated verse because there will already be several QHS pages that repeat the same verses. But this is not a problem and does not need to be pointed out if the section that it is being repeated in focuses on a different aspect of those same verses. Another point you seemed to have missed is that your additions (worded as they are) have little to do with the subject matter of the page. Rather than remove them completely, I have moved them (with a few changes) to a more suitable page[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Non-Muslims#Allah]. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:14, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

==Leap year==
All I understood is that altering months of a calendar is forbidden. That is the Ramadan calendar. Which calendar is used for agriculture, the 365 days one? Is the gap of 10 or 11 days because of that leap year day (Feb 29)? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:24, 20 August 2014 (PDT)
:hi PW. Jansen, regarding [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Axius&diff=109322&oldid=109321 this] I'll reply here for continuity. Is there a Quranic verse for the calender issue? That could be used in the Scientific errors in the Quran article. In any case there could be a separate article on this. There could be information from Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_calendar lunar year] and/or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar Islamic calendar] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar#History History] section). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 07:36, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Thanks, I am not that familiar with the Wiki communication features so something may be rather inefficient. The Koranic verse here is 9:37: Verily the transposing (of a prohibited month) is an addition to Unbelief: the Unbelievers are led to wrong thereby: for they make it lawful one year, and forbidden another year, in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allah and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their course seems pleasing to them. But Allah guideth not those who reject Faith. 
Traditionally the Arab added a month every so many years to synchronize sun and moon calendar. This a rather coarse way but sun and moon calendar don't get out of synch completely like is the case now. see: http://islam.about.com/cs/calendar/a/hijrah_calendar.htm for the current one. For the older one e.g. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20837003?uid=3737536&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104072781421 (PW. Jansen)
:I read the link. So the old Arab calendar was replaced by a strict lunar calendar hence there is shortfall of 10 or 11 days from the 365-day year. Now can you clarify the error you found? Are you saying that a leap year situation should have been considered? And when, while creating this lunar calendar? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:39, 21 August 2014 (PDT)

Hi, My point is that Muhammad does not understand what it is for, and now the Muslims have to use two calendars, one for Ramadan (the lunar calendar imposed by Muhammad) and one for agriculture ( the solar calendar).
Quote from PDF:Calendars are basically of two types: lunar or non-lunar. Lunar calendars have months based on the cycle of the phases of the moon (the synodic month, ca. 29.53 days). Twelve lunar months will total an average of about 354 days and are thus roughly 11 days shorter than the true solar (tropical or sidereal) year of 365.2422 days. Most of the nations of the ancient world used lunisolar calendars, where the difference between the lunar and the solar year is compensated by periodically intercalating a thirteenth month. Non-lunar calendars are based on notional "months" with a fixed number of days and make no attempt to keep pace with the phases of the moon.
Link: https://cmes.uchicago.edu/sites/cmes.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/Middle%20Eastern%20Calendars.pdf

:We cant accuse Muhammad in the Scientific Errors in Qur'an article. The calendar clearly has some tiff. But it is a case of lack of explanation which Ax had said is not a scientific error. So if it is not meant for that article (decide), I have another place in the making [[WikiIslam:Sandbox/Logical Errors and Other Issues in the Qur'an]]. I think you should insert your point, with the verse. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:34, 25 August 2014 (PDT) For the boats, there is 31:31 already at the bottom of the sc. errors article. But i think the most blatant is 17.066 and 42:32 upto 34. So u may add them over there. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:55, 25 August 2014 (PDT) You can check for more errors in [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith]]. They are pending review. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 08:05, 25 August 2014 (PDT)

== "Pray to Muhammad" ==

Hi Jansen. I've removed the "[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Theology&diff=prev&oldid=109359 Pray to Muhammad]" section you added to "Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Islamic Theology". There were several problems:

1. The page is about Islamic theology, not Allah. Your comment about "One wonders, who answers Allah's prayers," shifts the focus from Muslim beliefs onto Allah's characteristics.

2. There is a big difference between "sending blessings" onto someone and praying to someone. A quick Google search brings up some interesting stuff, e.g. [http://www.hcna.us/columns/blessing.html]. Without reading anything about it, it is common sense to most, even outside an Islamic perspective, that being "blessed by God/gods" does not equate to being prayed to by God/gods. I've also heard this argument before. In fact others have tried to add it here and there in the past and it has always been removed. It is not an accurate criticism of Allah/Islam so does not belong here.

3. Even if we accepted the argument, we would not word it in the way you did. We try to approach things in a professional manner, so the sarcastic tone is not welcome.

I'm not on here very often now, but if you have any questions, I'll gladly answer them when I can. Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 21:26, 20 August 2014 (PDT)

Okay I get it. I was confused by a Dutch translation which said literally "prayers of blessing" and I thought it depended on the translation. The verse is (IMHO) relevant because explains why Muslims refer to prophet Muhammad with pbuh.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 17:31, 21 August 2014 (PDT)
:No it is not relevant. That page is there to explain some of the major theology so people better understand how Muslims approach their texts (Qur'an, Hadith and Sunnah). Something as insignificant as the use of (PBUH) does not qualify. In fact that verse on its own explains little. All it says it to respect him, but a religious group being told to respect its founder is hardly illuminating. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 10:28, 22 August 2014 (PDT)

== New additions/reviews ==

I have made a section ''Changes in calendar'' in my sandbox. You might want to add all that comes to your mind from the forbidden 1 month to the leap year day. I listed more errors. if you find them correct, we will tell admins to add them. 
(Addition Jansen: I presume this was said by [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith ]] at 03:14, 29 August 2014 by WikiIslam user )
I would add that because of this change Ramadan shifts every year, 10 to 11 days earlier, and keeps shifting. And because of this change Muhammad made Muslims needed a separate calendar for agriculture. FYI I have no knowledge of the Hadith, I have a manuscript on the morals of Muhammad as comes forward in the Qur'an, and was not focused on scientific errors. 
I found these missing about the sky [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#Sky_is_a_Tent.2FDome|Link]] 

17:92 "Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou sayest (will happen), against us; or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face: 
22:65 Seest thou not that Allah has made subject to you (men) all that is on the earth, and the ships that sail through the sea by His Command? He withholds the sky (rain) from failing on the earth except by His leave: for Allah is Most Kind and Most Merciful to man. 
26:187 "Now cause a piece of the sky to fall on us, if thou art truthful!" 
31:10 He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.
(You might be tempted to use the last one as nonsense on "pairs" but I found translations differ widely on this point.) 
50:6 Do they not look at the sky above them?- How We have made it and adorned it, and there are no flaws in it? 
52:44 Were they to see a piece of the sky falling (on them), they would (only) say: "Clouds gathered in heaps!" 
 
Together with the ones already in there are so many it deserves a separate header. Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?

About the flat earth, the following are missing on the [[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#The_Earth_is_Flat|scientific errors page]]: 
13:3 And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider! 
15:19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance. 
51:48 And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out! 
79:30 notice how much the translations differ: 
YUSUFALI: And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); 
PICKTHAL: And after that He spread the earth, 
SHAKIR: And the earth, He expanded it after that. 
Again: Add them to your page or to the Scientific errors page?
--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 00:07, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:When replying, add one colon before you start the paragraph. If there is already somebody else's reply, every next reply must add one more colon. No need to write your name in the first sentence. You don't need any special knowledge of hadith. Just start reading and searching them for any topic. About sky: I think 22:65 should be in the same sky section but not Yusuf ali's words. Pickthall and shakir are correct because they dont write "rain" and it is not in the Arabic text. "Pillars" and "A piece of sky can fall on them" is present. Adding the same verses if they dont strengthen the article? Not sure but I was discouraged from doing it. Some sections will have a rolling list of verses. There is variety in the added sky verses so that each of them strengthen the claim of sky being a solid dome over earth. [[Flat Earth and the Quran]] article has most of the flat verses with Arabic word meanings. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:57, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
::Ok, so there is a much more extensive page on the flat earth, but not a cross link from the scientific errors page. About completeness or not I prefer to be complete. It is after all supposed to be an encyclopedia. And you avoid discussions what verse should be cited. And when it is not about science but priorities one can get a better sense of what is important in the Quran. But I don't set the standard here. I think YUSUFALI was not a good choice as the main reference for wikiislam, he differs significantly from most other translators. It seems he tried to create something more acceptable. But I also realize that any choice has its problems and controversy. When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this? Since it is, I think rightly, practice here to cite only one translation here: YUSUFALI.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:54, 7 September 2014 (PDT)
:::1. There is a cross-link right there, under the heading, "[[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#The_Earth_is_Flat|The Earth is Flat]]". Click on the link and see for yourself (it quite clearly says, "Main Article: Flat Earth and the Qur'an").
:::2. When has this site claimed it was only an encyclopaedia? As the [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines|policies]] state, "''WikiIslam is not restricted to only being an encyclopedia of Islam. It is there for editors to make use of in contributing and arranging information about Islam in many ways. For example, compiling news, translating media, making lists, collecting images and videos, counter-apologetics, hosting online books and other documents, and so on.''"

:::A list of scientific errors in the Qur'an is clearly not intended to be an Encyclopedic page. Every page has its own requirements. Yes, that page should aim be a "complete" list, but it was never meant to contain a comprehensive analysis of each entry. If it did, that page would be outrageously lengthy and the resulting wall of text would pretty much turn everyone away. That is left to the cross-linked stand-alone pages.

:::3. A quick look through the FAQ (something that all editors should really try at least once), would show that you are in error. If you look under, "[[WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#Sources Used|Sources Used]]," it says, "'''''What Qur'an translation do you use?''' Unless otherwise stated, we use the respected and widely accepted translations of Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthal or M. H. Shakir. All Qur'an quotes are taken from the University of Southern California Muslim Students Association's Compendium of Muslim Texts.''"

:::The Pickthal and Shakir translations are both very good translations. Those three were chosen because they are the most readily available and accepted. What is the point of quoting the Qur'an if Muslims won't even accept the translations used? None whatsoever. All that is asked of the editor is to limit his use of translations to one per section/error, since using multiple translations in a single section may appear disingenuous. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 00:35, 8 September 2014 (PDT)

::::To Sahab, indeed I overlooked that link looking in the sky part. About the translation used here in wiki the part chronological order [[Chronological_Order_of_the_Qur'an]]shows the YusufAli translation and this one is here often used when quoted here. I know the standard link is to three translations. Perhaps you can answer my question "When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this?" and with this I mean not quoting from YusufAli but from the other two. Just mention the translator like this?
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|5}}|PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. }}
::::As far as completeness is concerned this does not only matter scientific errors. The answer Saggy got was more or less the answer you gave me about Zakat quotes. We simply disagree on this. And as I stated I realize I do not set the standard here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:15, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

:::::Hardly, Jansen. The answer Saggy received concerning scientific errors and the answer I gave you concerning Zakat quotes were definitely not "more or less" the same. If they were, then please enlighten me on how it was so.

:::::One page (Zakat) had a particular point to make (about non-Muslims and terrorism) and your suggestion of having all the mundane verses mentioned simply to point out the fact that Allah (aka Prophet Muhammad) asked often for money, and rarely for good causes, would have buried it underneath something that belongs in an essay. The other page (scientific errors) is meant as a quick and easy-to-read list of errors that can lead off to more in-depth pages. Making them "complete" with all verses, even tafsir, hadith etc. as some editors have tried, would leave the list no longer "quick and easy-to-read."

:::::Yeah, I'm still not seeing how my answers were "more or less" the same, unless you're referring to the fact that I basically said "no" to both suggestions. We do not "simply disagree." I've fully explained why your ideas are wrong for this site. And it is not an issue of ''standards''. I can assure you that no one sets standards higher here than I do. It is a matter of appropriateness, style, usefulness, intent and a whole lot of other factors.

:::::Concerning your translation query, if the quoted translation is one of the three, then there is no need to mention it at all. That verse you quoted is pretty much the same across all three. If there does happen to be a massive difference in meaning for a certain verse, then it's probably best to bring the issue up with Axius. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 04:43, 9 September 2014 (PDT)

== Heaven organized ==
I made a new page in my dir and I want to organize what heavenly promises are made in the Qur'an
[[User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven in the Qur'an]]
:If you want to fill just quotes and no content of your own, there is a QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. Why not organise there? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 13:55, 9 September 2014 (PDT)
::The page I made was initially a copy/paste from that page, but I noticed I too easily create irritation. So let someone have a look at it first and then copy/paste it to that page QHS on heaven - [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Heaven]]. I made it to replace that page. There were only a few quotes added. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:48, 10 September 2014 (PDT)
I saw your email now. For one [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven_in_the_Qur%27an#Furniture], this verse is listed in the Furniture section:
:''And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- ''
Your organization effort is nice but I think its far from complete due to the fact that I found this verse in the furniture section (this is a serious error as this verse deserves to be in another new section such as .. "Carnal Pleasures", for example) and this certain verse is the kind that we would want to highlight. So yea I think its a great effort to create those headings but you could re-think what kind of sections you want to have. There are many Heaven related verses so we have to decide what we want to show, why we want to show it and how.

The other thing is that this page only contains Quranic verses and we know that a lot of good stuff is found in Hadiths, or scholar quotes. For example see source #15 [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Numbers_of_Islam#cite_note-15 here]. That source may have additional quotes on Heaven so you could search "Mishkat al-Masabih Paradise and Hell" for example or just "Mishkat al-Masabih".

[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness QHS:Silliness] has some for example [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#A_Tree_which_is_25.5_million_miles_wide tree], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Islamic_Heaven:_.22appetizing_vaginas.22_and_.22ever-erect.22_penises this of course], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Believers_will_enter_paradise_even_if_they_have_had_illegal_sexual_intercourse_or_committed_theft believers will enter ...]. etc.

So its a pretty big project making this page complete or better. I know the present shape of the page is also about the same as yours (except for the headings issue) but its a nice important page. If we can find all the Carnal/Ridiculous/Funny issues for Islamic heaven, thats what I'd like to see there at least (in addition to what we already have in the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Heaven existing QHS:Heaven] page). So let me know what you think about how this should be approached because there are a lot of sources to investigate. I would suggest searching for "Jannah/Janna/Heaven/Paradise" in Hadith websites and scholar websites (Islam QA) and start collecting anything that is of interest. Also check out other websites for example [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:faithfreedom.org FFI], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=islam+heaven+site:islam-watch.org Islam-watch], [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=heaven+site:thereligionofpeace.com theReligionofpeace.com], etc. etc. Of course we only want any relevant quotes from the original sources, not the commentary from these other websites.

The first step would be to search and collect all Heaven related verses, hadiths and scholar quotes or at least the important ones that we want to show, and then the next step is to organize them. Quran 56:36, 78:33 and others (like the #15 reference there which is a hadith) can be in the "Carnal Pleasures" section for example. So yea its a pretty big project but here you go. Thats my input on this. I think I've seen our original page before and did feel it wasnt complete so if you can work on it that would be nice. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 14:00, 18 September 2014 (PDT)

::: Thanks for you reply Axius. I know the page is far from complete, and it is a reorganization of the original page, this means that I did not cut back on blocks of quotations, that is why the carnal pleasures were include in the furniture section. The same block of text is in the "Garden" section and in the "Pleasant Company" section. It is a matter of choice if you want to cut it back to the part that only contains "Furniture". Before a heated discussion rises again, let's all realize that any grouping is controversial. Dealing with issues one by one: 
1) Do you or another editor agree with my choice that a whole section of Qur'an is included even if only one sentence refers to subject in the header? Or do you think only that very sentence should be quoted. Like the issue you mentioned: should the whole "heavenly" quote from the Qur'an, including the "pleasant company" part be quoted under the "furniture" section even if only one sentence in it refers to furniture? 
2) If my page is better than the original it is best to copy it asap to the old heaven page, to avoid that one has to maintain two pages on the same subject. No quote has been left out from the original page. 
3) I kept in mind the reply from Sahab about quoting things more than once, and that means that they will not be marked as such. 
4) "Pleasant Company" suggests carnal pleasures but do not state them as such. That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. 
5) Where more than one verse is quoted I make the new verse start on a new line. That is why the layout looks different from the original page. 

:You shouldnt be seeing any heated discussions from me :) not at least this soon in the discussion and even then I try to be calm and rational.
:In my opinion we should not be putting this much organization work into a page which is already far from complete and is missing out on so many good things in the hadiths and scholars. Only after we get a nice collection we can think of the headings. As for the Virgins verse being included in a "Pleasant company" this sounds like something an apologist would do. We dont want to hide what is an obviously Carnal pleasure described in the Quran (78:33 for example).
:No your page is not better because hiding a verse like this is not better than not having any headings at all.
:''"That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. "'' - why not? You didnt explain the "why". 78:33 is a Carnal pleasure and that is what we want to highlight. We might as well delete [[72 Virgins]] and retitle that to "Company of pleasant Women as described in the Quran". Obviously we cannot do that.
:Your suggestions are exactly why I think it is best to keep new editors restricted to Sandboxes until they show they understand the mission of the site or what the appropriate thing to do is. Side note: We are lucky that a person like Sahab happened upon the site. I dont know what shape the site would be in if that didn't happen. Even then we all have disagreements on one issue or the other (thats ok, it happens all the time in any situation). Any way:
:Repeating blocks verses is not a good idea. Not until we start collecting all the good stuff in hadiths and scholars and that is one point I brought up before as being the first thing that should be done and you have not addressed that. We are not in a hurry to improve this page so the additional stuff should be brought in first and headings and the issue of duplicate text can be dealt with later. When we do get those additional items, the heading "Carnal pleasures" will make perfect sense. There's already a collection of the 72 virgins hadiths (72 virgins, ever erect penises and appetizing vaginas etc) that can be repeated in the Carnal pleasures section. I'm sure there are many other things that can be found. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:06, 19 September 2014 (PDT)

::Axius, my knowledge is about the Qur'an and this is the scripture with most authority. To include the Hadith and Scholars is ambitious to say the least, and they have less authority. Most Muslims will have a Qur'an but I doubt that of the Hadith. This would take too much of my time to go through that. I thought I give you a hand with pages concerning the Qur'an. If you can convincingly debunk that "literal word of God", then whole Islam collapses. The Qur'an makes perfectly sense as a tool for a ruthless gangster, to create a submissive gang. I am gathering info for an essay on that and hope to publish it here. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 02:51, 22 September 2014 (PDT)

== Proposed addition to contradictions in the Qur'an ==
Sharp contrast towards the people of the book.
===The People of the Book are right===
Yes
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|43}}| The Unbelievers say: "No messenger art thou." Say: "Enough for a witness between me and you is Allah, and such as have knowledge of the Book." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|46}}| And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}
No
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|65|end=69|style=ref}}|Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding? 
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not! 
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. 
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. 
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive! }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|71|end=73|style=ref}}| Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? 
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back; 
"And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things." }}

I collected some of quotes about the people of the book on [[User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/People_of_the_Book_in_the_Qur%27an]] so you can shop around there. This is a page in the making. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PW. Jansen|contribs]]) {{#if:| |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) 
:You can work with Saggy on QHS issues. He has some pages about that in his sandbox. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:09, 19 September 2014 (PDT)

User talk:PW. Jansen

2014-09-20T00:59:01Z

PW. Jansen: /* Proposed addition to contradictions in the Qur'an */

User talk:PW. Jansen

2014-09-20T00:30:26Z

PW. Jansen: /* Heaven organized reply to Axius */

User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven in the Qur'an

2014-09-14T22:00:24Z

PW. Jansen: /* Sadistic Pleasures */

===Gardens===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|82}}|But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the Garden: Therein shall they abide (For ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|133}}| Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|136}}|For such the reward is forgiveness from their Lord, and Gardens with rivers flowing underneath,- an eternal dwelling: How excellent a recompense for those who work (and strive)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|195}}|And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them: "Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: Ye are members, one of another: Those who have left their homes, or been driven out therefrom, or suffered harm in My Cause, or fought or been slain,- verily, I will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath;- A reward from the presence of Allah, and from His presence is the best of rewards." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|198}}|On the other hand, for those who fear their Lord, are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath; therein are they to dwell (for ever),- a gift from the presence of Allah; and that which is in the presence of Allah is the best (bliss) for the righteous. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|12}}| Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel, and we appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: if ye (but) establish regular prayers, practise regular charity, believe in my messengers, honour and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path or rectitude." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|65}}| If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|85}}| And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|119}}| Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|7|42}}| But those who believe and work righteousness,- no burden do We place on any soul, but that which it can bear,- they will be Companions of the Garden, therein to dwell (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|9|21|end=22|style=ref}}| Their Lord doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy from Himself, of His good pleasure, and of gardens for them, wherein are delights that endure: 
They will dwell therein for ever. Verily in Allah's presence is a reward, the greatest (of all). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|89}}| Allah hath prepared for them gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein: that is the supreme felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|111}}| Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|9}}| Those who believe, and work righteousness,- their Lord will guide them because of their faith: beneath them will flow rivers in gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|26}}| To those who do right is a goodly (reward)- Yea, more (than in measure)! No darkness nor shame shall cover their faces! they are companions of the garden; they will abide therein (for aye)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness, and humble themselves before their Lord,- They will be companions of the gardens, to dwell therein for aye! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|108}}| And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|23}}| Gardens of perpetual bliss: they shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring: and angels shall enter unto them from every gate (with the salutation): }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|35}}| The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised!- beneath it flow rivers: perpetual is the enjoyment thereof and the shade therein: such is the end of the Righteous; and the end of Unbelievers in the Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|14|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness will be admitted to gardens beneath which rivers flow,- to dwell therein for aye with the leave of their Lord. Their greeting therein will be: "Peace!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|15|45}}| The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|16|31}}| Gardens of Eternity which they will enter: beneath them flow (pleasant) rivers: they will have therein all that they wish: thus doth Allah reward the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|61}}| Gardens of Eternity, those which (Allah) Most Gracious has promised to His servants in the Unseen: for His promise must (necessarily) come to pass. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|63}}| Such is the Garden which We give as an inheritance to those of Our servants who guard against Evil.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|20|76}}| Gardens of Eternity, beneath which flow rivers: they will dwell therein for aye: such is the reward of those who purify themselves (from evil). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|14}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens, beneath which rivers flow: for Allah carries out all that He plans. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|56}}| On that Day of Dominion will be that of Allah: He will judge between them: so those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in Gardens of Delight.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|15}}| Say: "Is that best, or the eternal garden, promised to the righteous? for them, that is a reward as well as a goal (of attainment). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|85}}| "Make me one of the inheritors of the Garden of Bliss;}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|90}}| "To the righteous, the Garden will be brought near, }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|31|8}}| For those who believe and work righteous deeds, there will be Gardens of Bliss,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|32|19}}| For those who believe and do righteous deeds are Gardens as hospitable homes, for their (good) deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|36|26}}| It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- 
For them is a Sustenance determined, 
Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, 
In Gardens of Felicity, 
Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): 
Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, 
Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), 
Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. 
And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|50}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|73}}| And those who feared their Lord will be led to the Garden in crowds: until behold, they arrive there; its gates will be opened; and its keepers will say: "Peace be upon you! well have ye done! enter ye here, to dwell therein." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|8}}| "And grant, our Lord! that they enter the Gardens of Eternity, which Thou hast promised to them, and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives, and their posterity! For Thou art (He), the Exalted in Might, Full of Wisdom. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|40}}| "He that works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof: and he that works a righteous deed - whether man or woman - and is a Believer- such will enter the Garden (of Bliss): Therein will they have abundance without measure.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|41|30}}| In the case of those who say, "Our Lord is Allah", and, further, stand straight and steadfast, the angels descend on them (from time to time): "Fear ye not!" (they suggest), "Nor grieve! but receive the Glad Tidings of the Garden (of Bliss), the which ye were promised! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|7}}| Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}| Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|43|70}}| Enter ye the Garden, ye and your wives, in (beauty and) rejoicing.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|44|51|end=55|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, 
Among Gardens and Springs; 
Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; 
So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. 
There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|14}}| Such shall be Companions of the Gardens, dwelling therein (for aye): a recompense for their (good) deeds. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|16}}| Such are they from whom We shall accept the best of their deeds and pass by their ill deeds: (They shall be) among the Companions of the Garden: a promise! of truth, which was made to them (in this life).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|6}}| And admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|5}}| That He may admit the men and women who believe, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow, to dwell therein for aye, and remove their ills from them;- and that is, in the sight of Allah, the highest achievement (for man),- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|17}}| No blame is there on the blind, nor is there blame on the lame, nor on one ill (if he joins not the war): But he that obeys Allah and his Messenger,- (Allah) will admit him to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and he who turns back, (Allah) will punish him with a grievous Penalty. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|50|31}}| And the Garden will be brought nigh to the Righteous,- no more a thing distant. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|51|15}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Springs,}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- 
enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. 
(To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." 
They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. 
And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|54|54}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Rivers,}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|46}}| But for such as fear the time when they will stand before (the Judgment Seat of) their Lord, there will be two Gardens- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|48}}| Containing all kinds (of trees and delights);- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|50}}| In them (each) will be two Springs flowing (free); }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|62}}| And besides these two, there are two other Gardens,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|64}}| Dark-green in colour (from plentiful watering). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|66}}| In them (each) will be two Springs pouring forth water in continuous abundance: }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|56|12}}| In Gardens of Bliss: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, 
Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- 
In shade long-extended, 
By water flowing constantly, 
And fruit in abundance. 
Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, 
And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. 
We have created (their Companions) of special creation. 
And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|12}}| One Day shalt thou see the believing men and the believing women- how their Light runs forward before them and by their right hands: (their greeting will be): "Good News for you this Day! Gardens beneath which flow rivers! to dwell therein for aye! This is indeed the highest Achievement!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|21}}| Be ye foremost (in seeking) Forgiveness from your Lord, and a Garden (of Bliss), the width whereof is as the width of heaven and earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His messengers: that is the Grace of Allah, which He bestows on whom he pleases: and Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|58|22}}| Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|64|9}}| The Day that He assembles you (all) for a Day of Assembly,- that will be a Day of mutual loss and gain (among you), and those who believe in Allah and work righteousness,- He will remove from them their ills, and He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that will be the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|65|11}}| An Messenger, who rehearses to you the Signs of Allah containing clear explanations, that he may lead forth those who believe and do righteous deeds from the depths of Darkness into Light. And those who believe in Allah and work righteousness, He will admit to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: Allah has indeed granted for them a most excellent Provision.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|66|8}}| O ye who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance: In the hope that your Lord will remove from you your ills and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,- the Day that Allah will not permit to be humiliated the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their Light will run forward before them and by their right hands, while they say, "Our Lord! Perfect our Light for us, and grant us Forgiveness: for Thou hast power over all things."}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|68|34}}| Verily, for the Righteous, are Gardens of Delight, in the Presence of their Lord. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|70|35}}| Such will be the honoured ones in the Gardens (of Bliss). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|40}}| (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; 
Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; 
And voluptuous women of equal age; 
And a cup full (to the brim).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|85|11}}|For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great Salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires),}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, 
Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: 
Therein will be a bubbling spring: 
Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, 
Goblets placed (ready), 
And cushions set in rows, 
And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|8}}| Their reward is with Allah: Gardens of Eternity, beneath which rivers flow; they will dwell therein for ever; Allah well pleased with them, and they with Him: all this for such as fear their Lord and Cherisher.}}

===Pleasant Company===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- 
For them is a Sustenance determined, 
Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, 
In Gardens of Felicity, 
Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): 
Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, 
Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), 
Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. 
And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|44|51|end=55|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, 
Among Gardens and Springs; 
Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; 
So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. 
There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|20}}| They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|24}}| Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|56}}| In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;-}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|55|70|end=74|style=ref}}|
In them will be fair (Companions), good, beautiful;- 
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?- 
Companions restrained (as to their glances), in (goodly) pavilions;- 
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?- 
Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), 
Reclining on them, facing each other. 
Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), 
With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: 
No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: 
And with fruits, any that they may select: 
And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. 
And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- 
Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, 
Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- 
In shade long-extended, 
By water flowing constantly, 
And fruit in abundance. 
Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, 
And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. 
We have created (their Companions) of special creation. 
And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; 
Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; 
And voluptuous women of equal age; 
And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Food===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- 
For them is a Sustenance determined, 
Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, 
In Gardens of Felicity, 
Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): 
Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, 
Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), 
Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. 
And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|44|51|end=55|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, 
Among Gardens and Springs; 
Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; 
So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. 
There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|52}}| In them will be Fruits of every kind, two and two. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|68}}| In them will be Fruits, and dates and pomegranates: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), 
Reclining on them, facing each other. 
Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), 
With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: 
No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: 
And with fruits, any that they may select: 
And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. 
And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- 
Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, 
Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- 
In shade long-extended, 
By water flowing constantly, 
And fruit in abundance. 
Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, 
And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. 
We have created (their Companions) of special creation. 
And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|69|21|end=24|style=ref}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, 
In a Garden on high, 
The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. 
"Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}

===Drinks===
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- 
For them is a Sustenance determined, 
Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, 
In Gardens of Felicity, 
Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): 
Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, 
Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), 
Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. 
And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), 
Reclining on them, facing each other. 
Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), 
With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: 
No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: 
And with fruits, any that they may select: 
And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. 
And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- 
Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|69|21|end=24|style=ref}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, 
In a Garden on high, 
The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. 
"Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; 
Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; 
And voluptuous women of equal age; 
And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Clothing===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|44|51|end=55|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, 
Among Gardens and Springs; 
Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; 
So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. 
There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}

===Jewelry===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|58}}| Like unto Rubies and coral.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}

===Furniture===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- 
enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. 
(To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." 
They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. 
And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|76}}| Reclining on green Cushions and rich Carpets of beauty. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), 
Reclining on them, facing each other. 
Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), 
With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: 
No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: 
And with fruits, any that they may select: 
And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. 
And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- 
Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, 
Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- 
In shade long-extended, 
By water flowing constantly, 
And fruit in abundance. 
Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, 
And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. 
We have created (their Companions) of special creation. 
And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, 
Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: 
Therein will be a bubbling spring: 
Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, 
Goblets placed (ready), 
And cushions set in rows, 
And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}

===Dwellings===
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|58}}| But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness - to them shall We give a Home in Heaven,- lofty mansions beneath which flow rivers,- to dwell therein for aye;- an excellent reward for those who do (good)!- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}

===Sadistic Pleasures===
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}|Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah). }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|42|44|end=45|style=ref}}|
For any whom Allah leaves astray, there is no protector thereafter. And thou wilt see the Wrong-doers, when in sight of the Penalty, Say: "Is there any way (to effect) a return?" 
And thou wilt see them brought forward to the (Penalty), in a humble frame of mind because of (their) disgrace, (and) looking with a stealthy glance. And the Believers will say: "Those are indeed in loss, who have given to perdition their own selves and those belonging to them on the Day of Judgment. Behold! Truly the Wrong-doers are in a lasting Penalty!"}}
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|74|40|end=42|style=ref}} | (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, 
And (ask) of the Sinners: 
"What led you into Hell Fire?"}}
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|83|28|end=36|style=ref}} |
A spring, from (the waters) whereof drink those Nearest to God. 
Those in sin used to laugh at those who believed, 
And whenever they passed by them, used to wink at each other (in mockery); 
And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting; 
And whenever they saw them, they would say, "Behold! These are the people truly astray!" 
But they had not been sent as keepers over them! 
But on this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers: 
On Thrones (of Dignity) they will command (a sight) (of all things). 
Will not the Unbelievers have been paid back for what they did? }}

===Other===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|112}}| Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|30|15}}| Then those who have believed and worked righteous deeds, shall be made happy in a Mead of Delight. }}

User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/People of the Book in the Qur'an

2014-09-11T09:10:11Z

PW. Jansen:

<big><big>People of the Book</big></big> 
This article focuses on the changing relation Muhammad had with the ''People of the Book''. In the early parts of the Qur'an (Meccan) Muhammad tried to portray himself as a prophet in the Jewish / Christian tradition. When that does not suit him anymore he starts to vilify them. And some of the "eternal pages" had to be re-written. Verses that say the Qur'an is eternal and without contradiction:
{{Quote| {{Quran|4|82}}| Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy. }}
{{Quote| {{Quran|6|115}}| The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all. }}
{{Quote| {{Quran|98|2}}| An messenger from Allah, rehearsing scriptures kept pure and holy: }}
Verses that state Allah improved the Qur'an:
{{Quote| {{Quran|2|106}}| None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things? }}
{{Quote| {{Quran|16|101}}| When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not. }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|17|86|end=87|style=ref}}| If it were Our Will, We could take away that which We have sent thee by inspiration:then wouldst thou find none to plead thy affair in that matter as against Us,- 
Except for Mercy from thy Lord: for his bounty is to thee (indeed) great. }}
A clear contradiction occurs in chapter 5 where in verse 69 they have nothing to fear, and in verses 51-59 they are vilified. The most positive attitude towards the ''People of the Book'' is 10:94 where Muhammad tries to make it look like Jews and Christians recognize him as a prophet. Also 13:36 points in this direction.

===The People of the Book, Who they are...===
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|199}}| And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book, those who believe in Allah, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to Allah: They will not sell the Signs of Allah for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|66}}| If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|29}}| Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|36}}| Those to whom We have given the Book rejoice at what hath been revealed unto thee: but there are among the clans those who reject a part thereof. Say: "I am commanded to worship Allah, and not to join partners with Him. Unto Him do I call, and unto Him is my return." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}| Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|4}}| Nor did the People of the Book make schisms, until after there came to them Clear Evidence. }}

===The People of the Book, positive remarks===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|69}}| Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|36}}| Those to whom We have given the Book rejoice at what hath been revealed unto thee: but there are among the clans those who reject a part thereof. Say: "I am commanded to worship Allah, and not to join partners with Him. Unto Him do I call, and unto Him is my return." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|43}}| The Unbelievers say: "No messenger art thou." Say: "Enough for a witness between me and you is Allah, and such as have knowledge of the Book." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|46}}| And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}

===The People of the Book, negative remarks===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|109}}| Quite a number of the People of the Book wish they could Turn you (people) back to infidelity after ye have believed, from selfish envy, after the Truth hath become Manifest unto them: But forgive and overlook, Till Allah accomplish His purpose; for Allah Hath power over all things.}}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|65|end=69|style=ref}}|Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding? 
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not! 
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. 
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. 
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive! }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|71|end=73|style=ref}}| Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? 
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back; 
"And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|75}}| Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with a hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless thou constantly stoodest demanding, because, they say, "there is no call on us (to keep faith) with these ignorant (Pagans)." but they tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it. }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|99|end=100|style=ref}}| Say: "O ye People of the Book! Why obstruct ye those who believe, from the path of Allah, Seeking to make it crooked, while ye were yourselves witnesses (to Allah's Covenant)? but Allah is not unmindful of all that ye do." 
O ye who believe! If ye listen to a faction among the People of the Book, they would (indeed) render you apostates after ye have believed! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|51}}| O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|57}}| O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|59}}| Say: "O people of the Book! Do ye disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that hath come to us and that which came before (us), and (perhaps) that most of you are rebellious and disobedient?" }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|65|end=66}}| If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. 
If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}| Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|29}}| That the People of the Book may know that they have no power whatever over the Grace of Allah, that (His) Grace is (entirely) in His Hand, to bestow it on whomsoever He wills. For Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding. }}

===The People of the Book, take from them===
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|9|29|end=35|style=ref}}| Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 
The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! 
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). 
Fain would they extinguish Allah's light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). 
It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). 
O ye who believe! there are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in Falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah: announce unto them a most grievous penalty- 
On the Day when heat will be produced out of that (wealth) in the fire of Hell, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their flanks, and their backs, their flanks, and their backs.- "This is the (treasure) which ye buried for yourselves: taste ye, then, the (treasures) ye buried!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|33|26|end=27|style=ref}}|And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. 
And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|59|2}}| It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). Little did ye think that they would get out: And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the (Wrath of) Allah came to them from quarters from which they little expected (it), and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers, take warning, then, O ye with eyes (to see)! }}

===The People of the Book, suspicion===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|68}}| Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith. }}

===The People of the Book, neutral===
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|64}}| Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|159}}| And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them;- }}

User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/People of the Book in the Qur'an

2014-09-11T09:01:24Z

PW. Jansen:

<big><big>People of the Book</big></big> 
This article focuses on the changing relation Muhammad had with the ''People of the Book''. In the early parts of the Qur'an (Meccan) Muhammad tried to portray himself as a prophet in the Jewish / Christian tradition. When that does not suit him anymore he starts to vilify them. And some of the "eternal pages" had to be re-written.
{{Quote| {{Quran|4|82}}| Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy. }}
{{Quote| {{Quran|6|115}}| The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all. }}
{{Quote| {{Quran|98|2}}| An messenger from Allah, rehearsing scriptures kept pure and holy: }}
A clear contradiction occurs in chapter 5 where in verse 69 they have nothing to fear, and in verses 51-59 they are vilified. The most positive attitude towards the ''People of the Book'' is 10:94 where Muhammad tries to make it look like Jews and Christians recognize him as a prophet. Also 13:36 points in this direction.

===The People of the Book, Who they are...===
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|199}}| And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book, those who believe in Allah, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to Allah: They will not sell the Signs of Allah for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|66}}| If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|29}}| Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|36}}| Those to whom We have given the Book rejoice at what hath been revealed unto thee: but there are among the clans those who reject a part thereof. Say: "I am commanded to worship Allah, and not to join partners with Him. Unto Him do I call, and unto Him is my return." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}| Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|4}}| Nor did the People of the Book make schisms, until after there came to them Clear Evidence. }}

===The People of the Book, positive remarks===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|69}}| Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|36}}| Those to whom We have given the Book rejoice at what hath been revealed unto thee: but there are among the clans those who reject a part thereof. Say: "I am commanded to worship Allah, and not to join partners with Him. Unto Him do I call, and unto Him is my return." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|43}}| The Unbelievers say: "No messenger art thou." Say: "Enough for a witness between me and you is Allah, and such as have knowledge of the Book." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|46}}| And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}

===The People of the Book, negative remarks===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|109}}| Quite a number of the People of the Book wish they could Turn you (people) back to infidelity after ye have believed, from selfish envy, after the Truth hath become Manifest unto them: But forgive and overlook, Till Allah accomplish His purpose; for Allah Hath power over all things.}}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|65|end=69|style=ref}}|Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding? 
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not! 
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. 
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. 
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive! }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|71|end=73|style=ref}}| Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? 
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back; 
"And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|75}}| Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with a hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless thou constantly stoodest demanding, because, they say, "there is no call on us (to keep faith) with these ignorant (Pagans)." but they tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it. }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|99|end=100|style=ref}}| Say: "O ye People of the Book! Why obstruct ye those who believe, from the path of Allah, Seeking to make it crooked, while ye were yourselves witnesses (to Allah's Covenant)? but Allah is not unmindful of all that ye do." 
O ye who believe! If ye listen to a faction among the People of the Book, they would (indeed) render you apostates after ye have believed! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|51}}| O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|57}}| O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|59}}| Say: "O people of the Book! Do ye disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that hath come to us and that which came before (us), and (perhaps) that most of you are rebellious and disobedient?" }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|65|end=66}}| If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. 
If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}| Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|29}}| That the People of the Book may know that they have no power whatever over the Grace of Allah, that (His) Grace is (entirely) in His Hand, to bestow it on whomsoever He wills. For Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding. }}

===The People of the Book, take from them===
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|9|29|end=35|style=ref}}| Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 
The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! 
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). 
Fain would they extinguish Allah's light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). 
It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). 
O ye who believe! there are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in Falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah: announce unto them a most grievous penalty- 
On the Day when heat will be produced out of that (wealth) in the fire of Hell, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their flanks, and their backs, their flanks, and their backs.- "This is the (treasure) which ye buried for yourselves: taste ye, then, the (treasures) ye buried!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|33|26|end=27|style=ref}}|And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. 
And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|59|2}}| It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). Little did ye think that they would get out: And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the (Wrath of) Allah came to them from quarters from which they little expected (it), and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers, take warning, then, O ye with eyes (to see)! }}

===The People of the Book, suspicion===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|68}}| Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith. }}

===The People of the Book, neutral===
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|64}}| Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|159}}| And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them;- }}

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<big><big>People of the Book</big></big> 
This article focuses on the changing relation Muhammad had with the ''People of the Book''. In the early parts of the Qur'an (Meccan) Muhammad tried to portray himself as a prophet in the Jewish / Christian tradition. When that does not suit him anymore he starts to vilify them. And some of the "eternal pages" had to be re-written. A clear contradiction occurs in chapter 5 where in verse 69 they have nothing to fear, and in verses 51-59 they are vilified.

===The People of the Book, Who they are...===
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|199}}| And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book, those who believe in Allah, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to Allah: They will not sell the Signs of Allah for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|66}}| If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|29}}| Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|36}}| Those to whom We have given the Book rejoice at what hath been revealed unto thee: but there are among the clans those who reject a part thereof. Say: "I am commanded to worship Allah, and not to join partners with Him. Unto Him do I call, and unto Him is my return." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|43}}| The Unbelievers say: "No messenger art thou." Say: "Enough for a witness between me and you is Allah, and such as have knowledge of the Book." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}| Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|4}}| Nor did the People of the Book make schisms, until after there came to them Clear Evidence. }}

===The People of the Book, positive remarks===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|69}}| Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|94}}| If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|36}}| Those to whom We have given the Book rejoice at what hath been revealed unto thee: but there are among the clans those who reject a part thereof. Say: "I am commanded to worship Allah, and not to join partners with Him. Unto Him do I call, and unto Him is my return." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|46}}| And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}| And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}

===The People of the Book, negative remarks===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|109}}| Quite a number of the People of the Book wish they could Turn you (people) back to infidelity after ye have believed, from selfish envy, after the Truth hath become Manifest unto them: But forgive and overlook, Till Allah accomplish His purpose; for Allah Hath power over all things.}}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|65|end=69|style=ref}}|Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding? 
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not! 
Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. 
Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. 
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive! }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|71|end=73|style=ref}}| Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? 
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back; 
"And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|75}}| Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with a hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless thou constantly stoodest demanding, because, they say, "there is no call on us (to keep faith) with these ignorant (Pagans)." but they tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it. }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|3|99|end=100|style=ref}}| Say: "O ye People of the Book! Why obstruct ye those who believe, from the path of Allah, Seeking to make it crooked, while ye were yourselves witnesses (to Allah's Covenant)? but Allah is not unmindful of all that ye do." 
O ye who believe! If ye listen to a faction among the People of the Book, they would (indeed) render you apostates after ye have believed! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|51}}| O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|57}}| O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|59}}| Say: "O people of the Book! Do ye disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that hath come to us and that which came before (us), and (perhaps) that most of you are rebellious and disobedient?" }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|65|end=66}}| If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. 
If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}| Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|29}}| That the People of the Book may know that they have no power whatever over the Grace of Allah, that (His) Grace is (entirely) in His Hand, to bestow it on whomsoever He wills. For Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding. }}

===The People of the Book, take from them===
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|9|29|end=35|style=ref}}| Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 
The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! 
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). 
Fain would they extinguish Allah's light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). 
It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). 
O ye who believe! there are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in Falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah: announce unto them a most grievous penalty- 
On the Day when heat will be produced out of that (wealth) in the fire of Hell, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their flanks, and their backs, their flanks, and their backs.- "This is the (treasure) which ye buried for yourselves: taste ye, then, the (treasures) ye buried!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|33|26|end=27|style=ref}}|And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. 
And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|59|2}}| It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). Little did ye think that they would get out: And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the (Wrath of) Allah came to them from quarters from which they little expected (it), and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers, take warning, then, O ye with eyes (to see)! }}

===The People of the Book, suspicion===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|68}}| Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith. }}

===The People of the Book, neutral===
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|64}}| Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|159}}| And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them;- }}

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[[People of the Book]]
This article focuses on the changing relation Muhammad had with the ''People of the Book''. In the early parts of the Qur'an (Meccan) Muhammad tried to portray himself as a prophet in the Jewish / Christian tradition. When that does not suit him anymore he starts to vilify them. And some of the "eternal pages" had to be re-written.
===The People of the Book===
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===The People of the Book, positive remarks===
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===The People of the Book, negative remarks===
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===The People of the Book, steal from them===
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===The People of the Book, suspicion===
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===The People of the Book, neutral===
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{{Quote | {{cite Quran|74|40|end=42|style=ref}} | (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight):
they will question each other, 
And (ask) of the Sinners: 
"What led you into Hell Fire?"}}

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User:PW. Jansen

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Heaven organized: [[User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven_in_the_Qur'an]] 
Collection of Qur'an verses containing Zakat: [[User:PW._Jansen/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Zakat]] 
Planned: [[User:PW._Jansen/Sandbox/People_of_the_Book_in_the_Qur'an]]

User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven in the Qur'an

2014-09-10T23:26:24Z

PW. Jansen:

===Gardens===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|82}}|But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the Garden: Therein shall they abide (For ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|133}}| Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|136}}|For such the reward is forgiveness from their Lord, and Gardens with rivers flowing underneath,- an eternal dwelling: How excellent a recompense for those who work (and strive)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|195}}|And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them: "Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: Ye are members, one of another: Those who have left their homes, or been driven out therefrom, or suffered harm in My Cause, or fought or been slain,- verily, I will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath;- A reward from the presence of Allah, and from His presence is the best of rewards." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|198}}|On the other hand, for those who fear their Lord, are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath; therein are they to dwell (for ever),- a gift from the presence of Allah; and that which is in the presence of Allah is the best (bliss) for the righteous. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|12}}| Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel, and we appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: if ye (but) establish regular prayers, practise regular charity, believe in my messengers, honour and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path or rectitude." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|65}}| If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|85}}| And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|119}}| Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|7|42}}| But those who believe and work righteousness,- no burden do We place on any soul, but that which it can bear,- they will be Companions of the Garden, therein to dwell (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|9|21|end=22|style=ref}}| Their Lord doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy from Himself, of His good pleasure, and of gardens for them, wherein are delights that endure: 
They will dwell therein for ever. Verily in Allah's presence is a reward, the greatest (of all). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|89}}| Allah hath prepared for them gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein: that is the supreme felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|111}}| Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|9}}| Those who believe, and work righteousness,- their Lord will guide them because of their faith: beneath them will flow rivers in gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|26}}| To those who do right is a goodly (reward)- Yea, more (than in measure)! No darkness nor shame shall cover their faces! they are companions of the garden; they will abide therein (for aye)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness, and humble themselves before their Lord,- They will be companions of the gardens, to dwell therein for aye! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|108}}| And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|23}}| Gardens of perpetual bliss: they shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring: and angels shall enter unto them from every gate (with the salutation): }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|35}}| The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised!- beneath it flow rivers: perpetual is the enjoyment thereof and the shade therein: such is the end of the Righteous; and the end of Unbelievers in the Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|14|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness will be admitted to gardens beneath which rivers flow,- to dwell therein for aye with the leave of their Lord. Their greeting therein will be: "Peace!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|15|45}}| The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|16|31}}| Gardens of Eternity which they will enter: beneath them flow (pleasant) rivers: they will have therein all that they wish: thus doth Allah reward the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|61}}| Gardens of Eternity, those which (Allah) Most Gracious has promised to His servants in the Unseen: for His promise must (necessarily) come to pass. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|63}}| Such is the Garden which We give as an inheritance to those of Our servants who guard against Evil.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|20|76}}| Gardens of Eternity, beneath which flow rivers: they will dwell therein for aye: such is the reward of those who purify themselves (from evil). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|14}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens, beneath which rivers flow: for Allah carries out all that He plans. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|56}}| On that Day of Dominion will be that of Allah: He will judge between them: so those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in Gardens of Delight.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|15}}| Say: "Is that best, or the eternal garden, promised to the righteous? for them, that is a reward as well as a goal (of attainment). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|85}}| "Make me one of the inheritors of the Garden of Bliss;}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|90}}| "To the righteous, the Garden will be brought near, }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|31|8}}| For those who believe and work righteous deeds, there will be Gardens of Bliss,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|32|19}}| For those who believe and do righteous deeds are Gardens as hospitable homes, for their (good) deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|36|26}}| It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- 
For them is a Sustenance determined, 
Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, 
In Gardens of Felicity, 
Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): 
Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, 
Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), 
Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. 
And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|50}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|73}}| And those who feared their Lord will be led to the Garden in crowds: until behold, they arrive there; its gates will be opened; and its keepers will say: "Peace be upon you! well have ye done! enter ye here, to dwell therein." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|8}}| "And grant, our Lord! that they enter the Gardens of Eternity, which Thou hast promised to them, and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives, and their posterity! For Thou art (He), the Exalted in Might, Full of Wisdom. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|40}}| "He that works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof: and he that works a righteous deed - whether man or woman - and is a Believer- such will enter the Garden (of Bliss): Therein will they have abundance without measure.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|41|30}}| In the case of those who say, "Our Lord is Allah", and, further, stand straight and steadfast, the angels descend on them (from time to time): "Fear ye not!" (they suggest), "Nor grieve! but receive the Glad Tidings of the Garden (of Bliss), the which ye were promised! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|7}}| Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}| Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|43|70}}| Enter ye the Garden, ye and your wives, in (beauty and) rejoicing.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|44|51|end=55|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, 
Among Gardens and Springs; 
Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; 
So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. 
There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|14}}| Such shall be Companions of the Gardens, dwelling therein (for aye): a recompense for their (good) deeds. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|16}}| Such are they from whom We shall accept the best of their deeds and pass by their ill deeds: (They shall be) among the Companions of the Garden: a promise! of truth, which was made to them (in this life).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|6}}| And admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|5}}| That He may admit the men and women who believe, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow, to dwell therein for aye, and remove their ills from them;- and that is, in the sight of Allah, the highest achievement (for man),- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|17}}| No blame is there on the blind, nor is there blame on the lame, nor on one ill (if he joins not the war): But he that obeys Allah and his Messenger,- (Allah) will admit him to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and he who turns back, (Allah) will punish him with a grievous Penalty. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|50|31}}| And the Garden will be brought nigh to the Righteous,- no more a thing distant. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|51|15}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Springs,}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- 
enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. 
(To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." 
They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. 
And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|54|54}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Rivers,}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|46}}| But for such as fear the time when they will stand before (the Judgment Seat of) their Lord, there will be two Gardens- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|48}}| Containing all kinds (of trees and delights);- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|50}}| In them (each) will be two Springs flowing (free); }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|62}}| And besides these two, there are two other Gardens,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|64}}| Dark-green in colour (from plentiful watering). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|66}}| In them (each) will be two Springs pouring forth water in continuous abundance: }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|56|12}}| In Gardens of Bliss: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, 
Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- 
In shade long-extended, 
By water flowing constantly, 
And fruit in abundance. 
Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, 
And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. 
We have created (their Companions) of special creation. 
And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|12}}| One Day shalt thou see the believing men and the believing women- how their Light runs forward before them and by their right hands: (their greeting will be): "Good News for you this Day! Gardens beneath which flow rivers! to dwell therein for aye! This is indeed the highest Achievement!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|21}}| Be ye foremost (in seeking) Forgiveness from your Lord, and a Garden (of Bliss), the width whereof is as the width of heaven and earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His messengers: that is the Grace of Allah, which He bestows on whom he pleases: and Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|58|22}}| Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|64|9}}| The Day that He assembles you (all) for a Day of Assembly,- that will be a Day of mutual loss and gain (among you), and those who believe in Allah and work righteousness,- He will remove from them their ills, and He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that will be the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|65|11}}| An Messenger, who rehearses to you the Signs of Allah containing clear explanations, that he may lead forth those who believe and do righteous deeds from the depths of Darkness into Light. And those who believe in Allah and work righteousness, He will admit to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: Allah has indeed granted for them a most excellent Provision.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|66|8}}| O ye who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance: In the hope that your Lord will remove from you your ills and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,- the Day that Allah will not permit to be humiliated the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their Light will run forward before them and by their right hands, while they say, "Our Lord! Perfect our Light for us, and grant us Forgiveness: for Thou hast power over all things."}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|68|34}}| Verily, for the Righteous, are Gardens of Delight, in the Presence of their Lord. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|70|35}}| Such will be the honoured ones in the Gardens (of Bliss). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|40}}| (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; 
Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; 
And voluptuous women of equal age; 
And a cup full (to the brim).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|85|11}}|For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great Salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires),}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, 
Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: 
Therein will be a bubbling spring: 
Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, 
Goblets placed (ready), 
And cushions set in rows, 
And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|8}}| Their reward is with Allah: Gardens of Eternity, beneath which rivers flow; they will dwell therein for ever; Allah well pleased with them, and they with Him: all this for such as fear their Lord and Cherisher.}}

===Pleasant Company===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- 
For them is a Sustenance determined, 
Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, 
In Gardens of Felicity, 
Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): 
Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, 
Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), 
Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. 
And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|44|51|end=55|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, 
Among Gardens and Springs; 
Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; 
So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. 
There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|20}}| They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|24}}| Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|56}}| In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;-}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|55|70|end=74|style=ref}}|
In them will be fair (Companions), good, beautiful;- 
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?- 
Companions restrained (as to their glances), in (goodly) pavilions;- 
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?- 
Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), 
Reclining on them, facing each other. 
Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), 
With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: 
No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: 
And with fruits, any that they may select: 
And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. 
And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- 
Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, 
Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- 
In shade long-extended, 
By water flowing constantly, 
And fruit in abundance. 
Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, 
And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. 
We have created (their Companions) of special creation. 
And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; 
Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; 
And voluptuous women of equal age; 
And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Food===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- 
For them is a Sustenance determined, 
Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, 
In Gardens of Felicity, 
Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): 
Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, 
Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), 
Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. 
And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|44|51|end=55|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, 
Among Gardens and Springs; 
Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; 
So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. 
There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|52}}| In them will be Fruits of every kind, two and two. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|68}}| In them will be Fruits, and dates and pomegranates: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), 
Reclining on them, facing each other. 
Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), 
With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: 
No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: 
And with fruits, any that they may select: 
And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. 
And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- 
Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, 
Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- 
In shade long-extended, 
By water flowing constantly, 
And fruit in abundance. 
Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, 
And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. 
We have created (their Companions) of special creation. 
And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|69|21|end=24|style=ref}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, 
In a Garden on high, 
The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. 
"Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}

===Drinks===
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- 
For them is a Sustenance determined, 
Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, 
In Gardens of Felicity, 
Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): 
Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, 
Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), 
Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. 
And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), 
Reclining on them, facing each other. 
Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), 
With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: 
No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: 
And with fruits, any that they may select: 
And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. 
And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- 
Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|69|21|end=24|style=ref}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, 
In a Garden on high, 
The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. 
"Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; 
Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; 
And voluptuous women of equal age; 
And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Clothing===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|44|51|end=55|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, 
Among Gardens and Springs; 
Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; 
So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. 
There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}

===Jewelry===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|58}}| Like unto Rubies and coral.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}

===Furniture===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- 
enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. 
(To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." 
They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. 
And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|76}}| Reclining on green Cushions and rich Carpets of beauty. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), 
Reclining on them, facing each other. 
Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), 
With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: 
No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: 
And with fruits, any that they may select: 
And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. 
And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- 
Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, 
Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- 
In shade long-extended, 
By water flowing constantly, 
And fruit in abundance. 
Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, 
And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. 
We have created (their Companions) of special creation. 
And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, 
Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: 
Therein will be a bubbling spring: 
Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, 
Goblets placed (ready), 
And cushions set in rows, 
And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}

===Dwellings===
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|58}}| But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness - to them shall We give a Home in Heaven,- lofty mansions beneath which flow rivers,- to dwell therein for aye;- an excellent reward for those who do (good)!- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}

===Sadistic Pleasures===
{{Quote|{{Quran|8|50}}|If thou couldst see, when the angels take the souls of the Unbelievers (at death), (How) they smite their faces and their backs, (saying): "Taste the penalty of the blazing Fire". }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}|Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah). }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|42|44|end=45|style=ref}}|
For any whom Allah leaves astray, there is no protector thereafter. And thou wilt see the Wrong-doers, when in sight of the Penalty, Say: "Is there any way (to effect) a return?" 
And thou wilt see them brought forward to the (Penalty), in a humble frame of mind because of (their) disgrace, (and) looking with a stealthy glance. And the Believers will say: "Those are indeed in loss, who have given to perdition their own selves and those belonging to them on the Day of Judgment. Behold! Truly the Wrong-doers are in a lasting Penalty!"}}
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|74|40|end=42|style=ref}} | (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, 
And (ask) of the Sinners: 
"What led you into Hell Fire?"}}
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|83|28|end=36|style=ref}} |
A spring, from (the waters) whereof drink those Nearest to God. 
Those in sin used to laugh at those who believed, 
And whenever they passed by them, used to wink at each other (in mockery); 
And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting; 
And whenever they saw them, they would say, "Behold! These are the people truly astray!" 
But they had not been sent as keepers over them! 
But on this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers: 
On Thrones (of Dignity) they will command (a sight) (of all things). 
Will not the Unbelievers have been paid back for what they did? }}

===Other===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|112}}| Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|30|15}}| Then those who have believed and worked righteous deeds, shall be made happy in a Mead of Delight. }}

User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven in the Qur'an

2014-09-10T22:38:13Z

PW. Jansen: /* Gardens */

===Gardens===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|82}}|But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the Garden: Therein shall they abide (For ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|133}}| Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|136}}|For such the reward is forgiveness from their Lord, and Gardens with rivers flowing underneath,- an eternal dwelling: How excellent a recompense for those who work (and strive)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|195}}|And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them: "Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: Ye are members, one of another: Those who have left their homes, or been driven out therefrom, or suffered harm in My Cause, or fought or been slain,- verily, I will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath;- A reward from the presence of Allah, and from His presence is the best of rewards." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|198}}|On the other hand, for those who fear their Lord, are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath; therein are they to dwell (for ever),- a gift from the presence of Allah; and that which is in the presence of Allah is the best (bliss) for the righteous. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|12}}| Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel, and we appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: if ye (but) establish regular prayers, practise regular charity, believe in my messengers, honour and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path or rectitude." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|65}}| If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|85}}| And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|119}}| Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|7|42}}| But those who believe and work righteousness,- no burden do We place on any soul, but that which it can bear,- they will be Companions of the Garden, therein to dwell (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|9|21|end=22|style=ref}}| Their Lord doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy from Himself, of His good pleasure, and of gardens for them, wherein are delights that endure: 
They will dwell therein for ever. Verily in Allah's presence is a reward, the greatest (of all). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|89}}| Allah hath prepared for them gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein: that is the supreme felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|111}}| Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|9}}| Those who believe, and work righteousness,- their Lord will guide them because of their faith: beneath them will flow rivers in gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|26}}| To those who do right is a goodly (reward)- Yea, more (than in measure)! No darkness nor shame shall cover their faces! they are companions of the garden; they will abide therein (for aye)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness, and humble themselves before their Lord,- They will be companions of the gardens, to dwell therein for aye! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|108}}| And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|23}}| Gardens of perpetual bliss: they shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring: and angels shall enter unto them from every gate (with the salutation): }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|35}}| The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised!- beneath it flow rivers: perpetual is the enjoyment thereof and the shade therein: such is the end of the Righteous; and the end of Unbelievers in the Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|14|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness will be admitted to gardens beneath which rivers flow,- to dwell therein for aye with the leave of their Lord. Their greeting therein will be: "Peace!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|15|45}}| The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|16|31}}| Gardens of Eternity which they will enter: beneath them flow (pleasant) rivers: they will have therein all that they wish: thus doth Allah reward the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|61}}| Gardens of Eternity, those which (Allah) Most Gracious has promised to His servants in the Unseen: for His promise must (necessarily) come to pass. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|63}}| Such is the Garden which We give as an inheritance to those of Our servants who guard against Evil.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|20|76}}| Gardens of Eternity, beneath which flow rivers: they will dwell therein for aye: such is the reward of those who purify themselves (from evil). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|14}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens, beneath which rivers flow: for Allah carries out all that He plans. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|56}}| On that Day of Dominion will be that of Allah: He will judge between them: so those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in Gardens of Delight.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|15}}| Say: "Is that best, or the eternal garden, promised to the righteous? for them, that is a reward as well as a goal (of attainment). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|85}}| "Make me one of the inheritors of the Garden of Bliss;}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|90}}| "To the righteous, the Garden will be brought near, }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|31|8}}| For those who believe and work righteous deeds, there will be Gardens of Bliss,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|32|19}}| For those who believe and do righteous deeds are Gardens as hospitable homes, for their (good) deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|36|26}}| It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- 
For them is a Sustenance determined, 
Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, 
In Gardens of Felicity, 
Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): 
Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, 
Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), 
Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. 
And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|50}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|73}}| And those who feared their Lord will be led to the Garden in crowds: until behold, they arrive there; its gates will be opened; and its keepers will say: "Peace be upon you! well have ye done! enter ye here, to dwell therein." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|8}}| "And grant, our Lord! that they enter the Gardens of Eternity, which Thou hast promised to them, and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives, and their posterity! For Thou art (He), the Exalted in Might, Full of Wisdom. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|40}}| "He that works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof: and he that works a righteous deed - whether man or woman - and is a Believer- such will enter the Garden (of Bliss): Therein will they have abundance without measure.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|41|30}}| In the case of those who say, "Our Lord is Allah", and, further, stand straight and steadfast, the angels descend on them (from time to time): "Fear ye not!" (they suggest), "Nor grieve! but receive the Glad Tidings of the Garden (of Bliss), the which ye were promised! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|7}}| Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}| Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|43|70}}| Enter ye the Garden, ye and your wives, in (beauty and) rejoicing.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|14}}| Such shall be Companions of the Gardens, dwelling therein (for aye): a recompense for their (good) deeds. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|16}}| Such are they from whom We shall accept the best of their deeds and pass by their ill deeds: (They shall be) among the Companions of the Garden: a promise! of truth, which was made to them (in this life).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|6}}| And admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|5}}| That He may admit the men and women who believe, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow, to dwell therein for aye, and remove their ills from them;- and that is, in the sight of Allah, the highest achievement (for man),- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|17}}| No blame is there on the blind, nor is there blame on the lame, nor on one ill (if he joins not the war): But he that obeys Allah and his Messenger,- (Allah) will admit him to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and he who turns back, (Allah) will punish him with a grievous Penalty. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|50|31}}| And the Garden will be brought nigh to the Righteous,- no more a thing distant. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|51|15}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Springs,}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- 
enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. 
(To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." 
They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. 
And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|54|54}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Rivers,}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|46}}| But for such as fear the time when they will stand before (the Judgment Seat of) their Lord, there will be two Gardens- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|48}}| Containing all kinds (of trees and delights);- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|50}}| In them (each) will be two Springs flowing (free); }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|62}}| And besides these two, there are two other Gardens,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|64}}| Dark-green in colour (from plentiful watering). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|66}}| In them (each) will be two Springs pouring forth water in continuous abundance: }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|56|12}}| In Gardens of Bliss: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, 
Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- 
In shade long-extended, 
By water flowing constantly, 
And fruit in abundance. 
Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, 
And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. 
We have created (their Companions) of special creation. 
And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|12}}| One Day shalt thou see the believing men and the believing women- how their Light runs forward before them and by their right hands: (their greeting will be): "Good News for you this Day! Gardens beneath which flow rivers! to dwell therein for aye! This is indeed the highest Achievement!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|21}}| Be ye foremost (in seeking) Forgiveness from your Lord, and a Garden (of Bliss), the width whereof is as the width of heaven and earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His messengers: that is the Grace of Allah, which He bestows on whom he pleases: and Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|58|22}}| Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|64|9}}| The Day that He assembles you (all) for a Day of Assembly,- that will be a Day of mutual loss and gain (among you), and those who believe in Allah and work righteousness,- He will remove from them their ills, and He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that will be the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|65|11}}| An Messenger, who rehearses to you the Signs of Allah containing clear explanations, that he may lead forth those who believe and do righteous deeds from the depths of Darkness into Light. And those who believe in Allah and work righteousness, He will admit to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: Allah has indeed granted for them a most excellent Provision.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|66|8}}| O ye who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance: In the hope that your Lord will remove from you your ills and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,- the Day that Allah will not permit to be humiliated the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their Light will run forward before them and by their right hands, while they say, "Our Lord! Perfect our Light for us, and grant us Forgiveness: for Thou hast power over all things."}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|68|34}}| Verily, for the Righteous, are Gardens of Delight, in the Presence of their Lord. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|70|35}}| Such will be the honoured ones in the Gardens (of Bliss). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|40}}| (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. 
Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. 
And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. 
And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- 
Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). 
And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- 
A fountain there, called Salsabil. 
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; 
Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; 
And voluptuous women of equal age; 
And a cup full (to the brim).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|85|11}}|For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great Salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires),}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, 
Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: 
Therein will be a bubbling spring: 
Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, 
Goblets placed (ready), 
And cushions set in rows, 
And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|8}}| Their reward is with Allah: Gardens of Eternity, beneath which rivers flow; they will dwell therein for ever; Allah well pleased with them, and they with Him: all this for such as fear their Lord and Cherisher.}}

===Pleasant Company===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|20}}| They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|24}}| Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|56}}| In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;-}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|55|70|end=74|style=ref}}|
In them will be fair (Companions), good, beautiful;- 
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?- 
Companions restrained (as to their glances), in (goodly) pavilions;- 
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?- 
Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;- }}

{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Food===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|52}}| In them will be Fruits of every kind, two and two. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|68}}| In them will be Fruits, and dates and pomegranates: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|69|21-24}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, In a Garden on high, The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. "Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}

===Drinks===
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|69|21-24}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, In a Garden on high, The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. "Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Clothing===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}

===Jewelry===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|58}}| Like unto Rubies and coral.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
===Furniture===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|76}}| Reclining on green Cushions and rich Carpets of beauty. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: Therein will be a bubbling spring: Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, Goblets placed (ready), And cushions set in rows, And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}

===Dwellings===
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|58}}| But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness - to them shall We give a Home in Heaven,- lofty mansions beneath which flow rivers,- to dwell therein for aye;- an excellent reward for those who do (good)!- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}

===Sadistic Pleasures===
{{Quote|{{Quran|8|50}}|If thou couldst see, when the angels take the souls of the Unbelievers (at death), (How) they smite their faces and their backs, (saying): "Taste the penalty of the blazing Fire". }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}|Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah). }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|42|44|end=45|style=ref}}|
For any whom Allah leaves astray, there is no protector thereafter. And thou wilt see the Wrong-doers, when in sight of the Penalty, Say: "Is there any way (to effect) a return?" 
And thou wilt see them brought forward to the (Penalty), in a humble frame of mind because of (their) disgrace, (and) looking with a stealthy glance. And the Believers will say: "Those are indeed in loss, who have given to perdition their own selves and those belonging to them on the Day of Judgment. Behold! Truly the Wrong-doers are in a lasting Penalty!" }}

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|74|40|end=42|style=ref}} | (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, 
And (ask) of the Sinners: 
"What led you into Hell Fire?" }}
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|83|28|end=36|style=ref}} |
A spring, from (the waters) whereof drink those Nearest to God. 
Those in sin used to laugh at those who believed, 
And whenever they passed by them, used to wink at each other (in mockery); 
And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting; 
And whenever they saw them, they would say, "Behold! These are the people truly astray!" 
But they had not been sent as keepers over them! 
But on this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers: 
On Thrones (of Dignity) they will command (a sight) (of all things). 
Will not the Unbelievers have been paid back for what they did? 
}}

===Other===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|112}}| Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|30|15}}| Then those who have believed and worked righteous deeds, shall be made happy in a Mead of Delight. }}

User:PW. Jansen/Sandbox/Heaven in the Qur'an

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PW. Jansen: /* Pleasant Company */

===Gardens===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|82}}|But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the Garden: Therein shall they abide (For ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|133}}| Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|136}}|For such the reward is forgiveness from their Lord, and Gardens with rivers flowing underneath,- an eternal dwelling: How excellent a recompense for those who work (and strive)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|195}}|And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them: "Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: Ye are members, one of another: Those who have left their homes, or been driven out therefrom, or suffered harm in My Cause, or fought or been slain,- verily, I will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath;- A reward from the presence of Allah, and from His presence is the best of rewards." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|198}}|On the other hand, for those who fear their Lord, are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath; therein are they to dwell (for ever),- a gift from the presence of Allah; and that which is in the presence of Allah is the best (bliss) for the righteous. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|12}}| Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel, and we appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: if ye (but) establish regular prayers, practise regular charity, believe in my messengers, honour and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path or rectitude." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|65}}| If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|85}}| And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|119}}| Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|7|42}}| But those who believe and work righteousness,- no burden do We place on any soul, but that which it can bear,- they will be Companions of the Garden, therein to dwell (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|9|21|end=22|style=ref}}| Their Lord doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy from Himself, of His good pleasure, and of gardens for them, wherein are delights that endure: They will dwell therein for ever. Verily in Allah's presence is a reward, the greatest (of all). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|89}}| Allah hath prepared for them gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein: that is the supreme felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|111}}| Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|9}}| Those who believe, and work righteousness,- their Lord will guide them because of their faith: beneath them will flow rivers in gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|26}}| To those who do right is a goodly (reward)- Yea, more (than in measure)! No darkness nor shame shall cover their faces! they are companions of the garden; they will abide therein (for aye)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness, and humble themselves before their Lord,- They will be companions of the gardens, to dwell therein for aye! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|108}}| And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|23}}| Gardens of perpetual bliss: they shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring: and angels shall enter unto them from every gate (with the salutation): }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|35}}| The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised!- beneath it flow rivers: perpetual is the enjoyment thereof and the shade therein: such is the end of the Righteous; and the end of Unbelievers in the Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|14|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness will be admitted to gardens beneath which rivers flow,- to dwell therein for aye with the leave of their Lord. Their greeting therein will be: "Peace!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|15|45}}| The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|16|31}}| Gardens of Eternity which they will enter: beneath them flow (pleasant) rivers: they will have therein all that they wish: thus doth Allah reward the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|61}}| Gardens of Eternity, those which (Allah) Most Gracious has promised to His servants in the Unseen: for His promise must (necessarily) come to pass. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|63}}| Such is the Garden which We give as an inheritance to those of Our servants who guard against Evil.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|20|76}}| Gardens of Eternity, beneath which flow rivers: they will dwell therein for aye: such is the reward of those who purify themselves (from evil). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|14}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens, beneath which rivers flow: for Allah carries out all that He plans. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|56}}| On that Day of Dominion will be that of Allah: He will judge between them: so those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in Gardens of Delight.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|15}}| Say: "Is that best, or the eternal garden, promised to the righteous? for them, that is a reward as well as a goal (of attainment). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|85}}| "Make me one of the inheritors of the Garden of Bliss;}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|90}}| "To the righteous, the Garden will be brought near, }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|31|8}}| For those who believe and work righteous deeds, there will be Gardens of Bliss,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|32|19}}| For those who believe and do righteous deeds are Gardens as hospitable homes, for their (good) deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|36|26}}| It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|50}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|73}}| And those who feared their Lord will be led to the Garden in crowds: until behold, they arrive there; its gates will be opened; and its keepers will say: "Peace be upon you! well have ye done! enter ye here, to dwell therein." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|8}}| "And grant, our Lord! that they enter the Gardens of Eternity, which Thou hast promised to them, and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives, and their posterity! For Thou art (He), the Exalted in Might, Full of Wisdom. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|40}}| "He that works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof: and he that works a righteous deed - whether man or woman - and is a Believer- such will enter the Garden (of Bliss): Therein will they have abundance without measure.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|41|30}}| In the case of those who say, "Our Lord is Allah", and, further, stand straight and steadfast, the angels descend on them (from time to time): "Fear ye not!" (they suggest), "Nor grieve! but receive the Glad Tidings of the Garden (of Bliss), the which ye were promised! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|7}}| Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}| Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|43|70}}| Enter ye the Garden, ye and your wives, in (beauty and) rejoicing.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|14}}| Such shall be Companions of the Gardens, dwelling therein (for aye): a recompense for their (good) deeds. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|16}}| Such are they from whom We shall accept the best of their deeds and pass by their ill deeds: (They shall be) among the Companions of the Garden: a promise! of truth, which was made to them (in this life).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|6}}| And admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|5}}| That He may admit the men and women who believe, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow, to dwell therein for aye, and remove their ills from them;- and that is, in the sight of Allah, the highest achievement (for man),- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|17}}| No blame is there on the blind, nor is there blame on the lame, nor on one ill (if he joins not the war): But he that obeys Allah and his Messenger,- (Allah) will admit him to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and he who turns back, (Allah) will punish him with a grievous Penalty. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|50|31}}| And the Garden will be brought nigh to the Righteous,- no more a thing distant. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|51|15}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Springs,}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|54|54}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Rivers,}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|46}}| But for such as fear the time when they will stand before (the Judgment Seat of) their Lord, there will be two Gardens- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|48}}| Containing all kinds (of trees and delights);- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|50}}| In them (each) will be two Springs flowing (free); }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|62}}| And besides these two, there are two other Gardens,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|64}}| Dark-green in colour (from plentiful watering). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|66}}| In them (each) will be two Springs pouring forth water in continuous abundance: }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|56|12}}| In Gardens of Bliss: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|12}}| One Day shalt thou see the believing men and the believing women- how their Light runs forward before them and by their right hands: (their greeting will be): "Good News for you this Day! Gardens beneath which flow rivers! to dwell therein for aye! This is indeed the highest Achievement!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|21}}| Be ye foremost (in seeking) Forgiveness from your Lord, and a Garden (of Bliss), the width whereof is as the width of heaven and earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His messengers: that is the Grace of Allah, which He bestows on whom he pleases: and Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|58|22}}| Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|64|9}}| The Day that He assembles you (all) for a Day of Assembly,- that will be a Day of mutual loss and gain (among you), and those who believe in Allah and work righteousness,- He will remove from them their ills, and He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that will be the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|65|11}}| An Messenger, who rehearses to you the Signs of Allah containing clear explanations, that he may lead forth those who believe and do righteous deeds from the depths of Darkness into Light. And those who believe in Allah and work righteousness, He will admit to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: Allah has indeed granted for them a most excellent Provision.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|66|8}}| O ye who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance: In the hope that your Lord will remove from you your ills and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,- the Day that Allah will not permit to be humiliated the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their Light will run forward before them and by their right hands, while they say, "Our Lord! Perfect our Light for us, and grant us Forgiveness: for Thou hast power over all things."}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|68|34}}| Verily, for the Righteous, are Gardens of Delight, in the Presence of their Lord. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|70|35}}| Such will be the honoured ones in the Gardens (of Bliss). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|40}}| (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|85|11}}|For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great Salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires),}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: Therein will be a bubbling spring: Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, Goblets placed (ready), And cushions set in rows, And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|8}}| Their reward is with Allah: Gardens of Eternity, beneath which rivers flow; they will dwell therein for ever; Allah well pleased with them, and they with Him: all this for such as fear their Lord and Cherisher.}}

===Pleasant Company===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|20}}| They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|24}}| Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|56}}| In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;-}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|55|70|end=74|style=ref}}|
In them will be fair (Companions), good, beautiful;- 
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?- 
Companions restrained (as to their glances), in (goodly) pavilions;- 
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?- 
Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;- }}

{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Food===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|52}}| In them will be Fruits of every kind, two and two. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|68}}| In them will be Fruits, and dates and pomegranates: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|69|21-24}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, In a Garden on high, The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. "Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}

===Drinks===
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|69|21-24}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, In a Garden on high, The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. "Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Clothing===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}

===Jewelry===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|58}}| Like unto Rubies and coral.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
===Furniture===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|76}}| Reclining on green Cushions and rich Carpets of beauty. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: Therein will be a bubbling spring: Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, Goblets placed (ready), And cushions set in rows, And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}

===Dwellings===
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|58}}| But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness - to them shall We give a Home in Heaven,- lofty mansions beneath which flow rivers,- to dwell therein for aye;- an excellent reward for those who do (good)!- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}

===Sadistic Pleasures===
{{Quote|{{Quran|8|50}}|If thou couldst see, when the angels take the souls of the Unbelievers (at death), (How) they smite their faces and their backs, (saying): "Taste the penalty of the blazing Fire". }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}|Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah). }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|42|44|end=45|style=ref}}|
For any whom Allah leaves astray, there is no protector thereafter. And thou wilt see the Wrong-doers, when in sight of the Penalty, Say: "Is there any way (to effect) a return?" 
And thou wilt see them brought forward to the (Penalty), in a humble frame of mind because of (their) disgrace, (and) looking with a stealthy glance. And the Believers will say: "Those are indeed in loss, who have given to perdition their own selves and those belonging to them on the Day of Judgment. Behold! Truly the Wrong-doers are in a lasting Penalty!" }}

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|74|40|end=42|style=ref}} | (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, 
And (ask) of the Sinners: 
"What led you into Hell Fire?" }}
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|83|28|end=36|style=ref}} |
A spring, from (the waters) whereof drink those Nearest to God. 
Those in sin used to laugh at those who believed, 
And whenever they passed by them, used to wink at each other (in mockery); 
And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting; 
And whenever they saw them, they would say, "Behold! These are the people truly astray!" 
But they had not been sent as keepers over them! 
But on this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers: 
On Thrones (of Dignity) they will command (a sight) (of all things). 
Will not the Unbelievers have been paid back for what they did? 
}}

===Other===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|112}}| Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|30|15}}| Then those who have believed and worked righteous deeds, shall be made happy in a Mead of Delight. }}

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===Gardens===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|82}}|But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the Garden: Therein shall they abide (For ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|133}}| Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|136}}|For such the reward is forgiveness from their Lord, and Gardens with rivers flowing underneath,- an eternal dwelling: How excellent a recompense for those who work (and strive)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|195}}|And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them: "Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: Ye are members, one of another: Those who have left their homes, or been driven out therefrom, or suffered harm in My Cause, or fought or been slain,- verily, I will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath;- A reward from the presence of Allah, and from His presence is the best of rewards." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|198}}|On the other hand, for those who fear their Lord, are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath; therein are they to dwell (for ever),- a gift from the presence of Allah; and that which is in the presence of Allah is the best (bliss) for the righteous. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|12}}| Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel, and we appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: if ye (but) establish regular prayers, practise regular charity, believe in my messengers, honour and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path or rectitude." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|65}}| If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|85}}| And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|119}}| Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|7|42}}| But those who believe and work righteousness,- no burden do We place on any soul, but that which it can bear,- they will be Companions of the Garden, therein to dwell (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|9|21|end=22|style=ref}}| Their Lord doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy from Himself, of His good pleasure, and of gardens for them, wherein are delights that endure: They will dwell therein for ever. Verily in Allah's presence is a reward, the greatest (of all). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|89}}| Allah hath prepared for them gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein: that is the supreme felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|111}}| Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|9}}| Those who believe, and work righteousness,- their Lord will guide them because of their faith: beneath them will flow rivers in gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|26}}| To those who do right is a goodly (reward)- Yea, more (than in measure)! No darkness nor shame shall cover their faces! they are companions of the garden; they will abide therein (for aye)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness, and humble themselves before their Lord,- They will be companions of the gardens, to dwell therein for aye! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|108}}| And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|23}}| Gardens of perpetual bliss: they shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring: and angels shall enter unto them from every gate (with the salutation): }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|35}}| The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised!- beneath it flow rivers: perpetual is the enjoyment thereof and the shade therein: such is the end of the Righteous; and the end of Unbelievers in the Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|14|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness will be admitted to gardens beneath which rivers flow,- to dwell therein for aye with the leave of their Lord. Their greeting therein will be: "Peace!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|15|45}}| The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|16|31}}| Gardens of Eternity which they will enter: beneath them flow (pleasant) rivers: they will have therein all that they wish: thus doth Allah reward the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|61}}| Gardens of Eternity, those which (Allah) Most Gracious has promised to His servants in the Unseen: for His promise must (necessarily) come to pass. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|63}}| Such is the Garden which We give as an inheritance to those of Our servants who guard against Evil.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|20|76}}| Gardens of Eternity, beneath which flow rivers: they will dwell therein for aye: such is the reward of those who purify themselves (from evil). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|14}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens, beneath which rivers flow: for Allah carries out all that He plans. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|56}}| On that Day of Dominion will be that of Allah: He will judge between them: so those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in Gardens of Delight.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|15}}| Say: "Is that best, or the eternal garden, promised to the righteous? for them, that is a reward as well as a goal (of attainment). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|85}}| "Make me one of the inheritors of the Garden of Bliss;}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|90}}| "To the righteous, the Garden will be brought near, }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|31|8}}| For those who believe and work righteous deeds, there will be Gardens of Bliss,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|32|19}}| For those who believe and do righteous deeds are Gardens as hospitable homes, for their (good) deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|36|26}}| It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|50}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|73}}| And those who feared their Lord will be led to the Garden in crowds: until behold, they arrive there; its gates will be opened; and its keepers will say: "Peace be upon you! well have ye done! enter ye here, to dwell therein." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|8}}| "And grant, our Lord! that they enter the Gardens of Eternity, which Thou hast promised to them, and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives, and their posterity! For Thou art (He), the Exalted in Might, Full of Wisdom. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|40}}| "He that works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof: and he that works a righteous deed - whether man or woman - and is a Believer- such will enter the Garden (of Bliss): Therein will they have abundance without measure.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|41|30}}| In the case of those who say, "Our Lord is Allah", and, further, stand straight and steadfast, the angels descend on them (from time to time): "Fear ye not!" (they suggest), "Nor grieve! but receive the Glad Tidings of the Garden (of Bliss), the which ye were promised! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|7}}| Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}| Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|43|70}}| Enter ye the Garden, ye and your wives, in (beauty and) rejoicing.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|14}}| Such shall be Companions of the Gardens, dwelling therein (for aye): a recompense for their (good) deeds. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|16}}| Such are they from whom We shall accept the best of their deeds and pass by their ill deeds: (They shall be) among the Companions of the Garden: a promise! of truth, which was made to them (in this life).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|6}}| And admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|5}}| That He may admit the men and women who believe, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow, to dwell therein for aye, and remove their ills from them;- and that is, in the sight of Allah, the highest achievement (for man),- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|17}}| No blame is there on the blind, nor is there blame on the lame, nor on one ill (if he joins not the war): But he that obeys Allah and his Messenger,- (Allah) will admit him to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and he who turns back, (Allah) will punish him with a grievous Penalty. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|50|31}}| And the Garden will be brought nigh to the Righteous,- no more a thing distant. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|51|15}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Springs,}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|54|54}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Rivers,}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|46}}| But for such as fear the time when they will stand before (the Judgment Seat of) their Lord, there will be two Gardens- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|48}}| Containing all kinds (of trees and delights);- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|50}}| In them (each) will be two Springs flowing (free); }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|62}}| And besides these two, there are two other Gardens,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|64}}| Dark-green in colour (from plentiful watering). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|66}}| In them (each) will be two Springs pouring forth water in continuous abundance: }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|56|12}}| In Gardens of Bliss: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|12}}| One Day shalt thou see the believing men and the believing women- how their Light runs forward before them and by their right hands: (their greeting will be): "Good News for you this Day! Gardens beneath which flow rivers! to dwell therein for aye! This is indeed the highest Achievement!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|21}}| Be ye foremost (in seeking) Forgiveness from your Lord, and a Garden (of Bliss), the width whereof is as the width of heaven and earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His messengers: that is the Grace of Allah, which He bestows on whom he pleases: and Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|58|22}}| Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|64|9}}| The Day that He assembles you (all) for a Day of Assembly,- that will be a Day of mutual loss and gain (among you), and those who believe in Allah and work righteousness,- He will remove from them their ills, and He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that will be the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|65|11}}| An Messenger, who rehearses to you the Signs of Allah containing clear explanations, that he may lead forth those who believe and do righteous deeds from the depths of Darkness into Light. And those who believe in Allah and work righteousness, He will admit to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: Allah has indeed granted for them a most excellent Provision.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|66|8}}| O ye who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance: In the hope that your Lord will remove from you your ills and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,- the Day that Allah will not permit to be humiliated the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their Light will run forward before them and by their right hands, while they say, "Our Lord! Perfect our Light for us, and grant us Forgiveness: for Thou hast power over all things."}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|68|34}}| Verily, for the Righteous, are Gardens of Delight, in the Presence of their Lord. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|70|35}}| Such will be the honoured ones in the Gardens (of Bliss). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|40}}| (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|85|11}}|For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great Salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires),}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: Therein will be a bubbling spring: Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, Goblets placed (ready), And cushions set in rows, And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|8}}| Their reward is with Allah: Gardens of Eternity, beneath which rivers flow; they will dwell therein for ever; Allah well pleased with them, and they with Him: all this for such as fear their Lord and Cherisher.}}

===Pleasant Company===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|20}}| They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|24}}| Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|56}}| In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;-}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|70}}| In them will be fair (Companions), good, beautiful;- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|72}}| Companions restrained (as to their glances), in (goodly) pavilions;-}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|74}}| Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Food===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|52}}| In them will be Fruits of every kind, two and two. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|68}}| In them will be Fruits, and dates and pomegranates: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|69|21-24}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, In a Garden on high, The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. "Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}

===Drinks===
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|38|50|end=52|style=ref}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; 
Therein will they recline (at ease): Therein can they call (at pleasure) for fruit in abundance, and (delicious) drink; 
And beside them will be chaste women restraining their glances, (companions) of equal age. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|69|21-24}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, In a Garden on high, The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. "Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Clothing===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}

===Jewelry===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|58}}| Like unto Rubies and coral.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
===Furniture===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|76}}| Reclining on green Cushions and rich Carpets of beauty. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: Therein will be a bubbling spring: Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, Goblets placed (ready), And cushions set in rows, And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}

===Dwellings===
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|58}}| But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness - to them shall We give a Home in Heaven,- lofty mansions beneath which flow rivers,- to dwell therein for aye;- an excellent reward for those who do (good)!- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}

===Sadistic Pleasures===
{{Quote|{{Quran|8|50}}|If thou couldst see, when the angels take the souls of the Unbelievers (at death), (How) they smite their faces and their backs, (saying): "Taste the penalty of the blazing Fire". }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}|Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah). }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|42|44|end=45|style=ref}}|
For any whom Allah leaves astray, there is no protector thereafter. And thou wilt see the Wrong-doers, when in sight of the Penalty, Say: "Is there any way (to effect) a return?" 
And thou wilt see them brought forward to the (Penalty), in a humble frame of mind because of (their) disgrace, (and) looking with a stealthy glance. And the Believers will say: "Those are indeed in loss, who have given to perdition their own selves and those belonging to them on the Day of Judgment. Behold! Truly the Wrong-doers are in a lasting Penalty!" }}

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|74|40|end=42|style=ref}} | (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, 
And (ask) of the Sinners: 
"What led you into Hell Fire?" }}
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|83|28|end=36|style=ref}} |
A spring, from (the waters) whereof drink those Nearest to God. 
Those in sin used to laugh at those who believed, 
And whenever they passed by them, used to wink at each other (in mockery); 
And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting; 
And whenever they saw them, they would say, "Behold! These are the people truly astray!" 
But they had not been sent as keepers over them! 
But on this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers: 
On Thrones (of Dignity) they will command (a sight) (of all things). 
Will not the Unbelievers have been paid back for what they did? 
}}

===Other===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|112}}| Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|30|15}}| Then those who have believed and worked righteous deeds, shall be made happy in a Mead of Delight. }}

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===Gardens===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|82}}|But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the Garden: Therein shall they abide (For ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|133}}| Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|136}}|For such the reward is forgiveness from their Lord, and Gardens with rivers flowing underneath,- an eternal dwelling: How excellent a recompense for those who work (and strive)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|195}}|And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them: "Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: Ye are members, one of another: Those who have left their homes, or been driven out therefrom, or suffered harm in My Cause, or fought or been slain,- verily, I will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath;- A reward from the presence of Allah, and from His presence is the best of rewards." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|198}}|On the other hand, for those who fear their Lord, are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath; therein are they to dwell (for ever),- a gift from the presence of Allah; and that which is in the presence of Allah is the best (bliss) for the righteous. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|12}}| Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel, and we appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: if ye (but) establish regular prayers, practise regular charity, believe in my messengers, honour and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path or rectitude." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|65}}| If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|85}}| And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|119}}| Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|7|42}}| But those who believe and work righteousness,- no burden do We place on any soul, but that which it can bear,- they will be Companions of the Garden, therein to dwell (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|9|21|end=22|style=ref}}| Their Lord doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy from Himself, of His good pleasure, and of gardens for them, wherein are delights that endure: They will dwell therein for ever. Verily in Allah's presence is a reward, the greatest (of all). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|89}}| Allah hath prepared for them gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein: that is the supreme felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|111}}| Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|9}}| Those who believe, and work righteousness,- their Lord will guide them because of their faith: beneath them will flow rivers in gardens of bliss. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|10|26}}| To those who do right is a goodly (reward)- Yea, more (than in measure)! No darkness nor shame shall cover their faces! they are companions of the garden; they will abide therein (for aye)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness, and humble themselves before their Lord,- They will be companions of the gardens, to dwell therein for aye! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|11|108}}| And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|23}}| Gardens of perpetual bliss: they shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring: and angels shall enter unto them from every gate (with the salutation): }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|13|35}}| The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised!- beneath it flow rivers: perpetual is the enjoyment thereof and the shade therein: such is the end of the Righteous; and the end of Unbelievers in the Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|14|23}}| But those who believe and work righteousness will be admitted to gardens beneath which rivers flow,- to dwell therein for aye with the leave of their Lord. Their greeting therein will be: "Peace!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|15|45}}| The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|16|31}}| Gardens of Eternity which they will enter: beneath them flow (pleasant) rivers: they will have therein all that they wish: thus doth Allah reward the righteous,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|61}}| Gardens of Eternity, those which (Allah) Most Gracious has promised to His servants in the Unseen: for His promise must (necessarily) come to pass. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|63}}| Such is the Garden which We give as an inheritance to those of Our servants who guard against Evil.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|20|76}}| Gardens of Eternity, beneath which flow rivers: they will dwell therein for aye: such is the reward of those who purify themselves (from evil). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|14}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens, beneath which rivers flow: for Allah carries out all that He plans. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|56}}| On that Day of Dominion will be that of Allah: He will judge between them: so those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in Gardens of Delight.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|15}}| Say: "Is that best, or the eternal garden, promised to the righteous? for them, that is a reward as well as a goal (of attainment). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|85}}| "Make me one of the inheritors of the Garden of Bliss;}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|26|90}}| "To the righteous, the Garden will be brought near, }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|31|8}}| For those who believe and work righteous deeds, there will be Gardens of Bliss,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|32|19}}| For those who believe and do righteous deeds are Gardens as hospitable homes, for their (good) deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|36|26}}| It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|50}}| Gardens of Eternity, whose doors will (ever) be open to them; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|73}}| And those who feared their Lord will be led to the Garden in crowds: until behold, they arrive there; its gates will be opened; and its keepers will say: "Peace be upon you! well have ye done! enter ye here, to dwell therein." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|8}}| "And grant, our Lord! that they enter the Gardens of Eternity, which Thou hast promised to them, and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives, and their posterity! For Thou art (He), the Exalted in Might, Full of Wisdom. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|40|40}}| "He that works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof: and he that works a righteous deed - whether man or woman - and is a Believer- such will enter the Garden (of Bliss): Therein will they have abundance without measure.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|41|30}}| In the case of those who say, "Our Lord is Allah", and, further, stand straight and steadfast, the angels descend on them (from time to time): "Fear ye not!" (they suggest), "Nor grieve! but receive the Glad Tidings of the Garden (of Bliss), the which ye were promised! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|7}}| Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}| Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|43|70}}| Enter ye the Garden, ye and your wives, in (beauty and) rejoicing.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|14}}| Such shall be Companions of the Gardens, dwelling therein (for aye): a recompense for their (good) deeds. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|46|16}}| Such are they from whom We shall accept the best of their deeds and pass by their ill deeds: (They shall be) among the Companions of the Garden: a promise! of truth, which was made to them (in this life).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|6}}| And admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}| Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|5}}| That He may admit the men and women who believe, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow, to dwell therein for aye, and remove their ills from them;- and that is, in the sight of Allah, the highest achievement (for man),- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|17}}| No blame is there on the blind, nor is there blame on the lame, nor on one ill (if he joins not the war): But he that obeys Allah and his Messenger,- (Allah) will admit him to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and he who turns back, (Allah) will punish him with a grievous Penalty. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|50|31}}| And the Garden will be brought nigh to the Righteous,- no more a thing distant. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|51|15}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Springs,}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|54|54}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Rivers,}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|46}}| But for such as fear the time when they will stand before (the Judgment Seat of) their Lord, there will be two Gardens- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|48}}| Containing all kinds (of trees and delights);- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|50}}| In them (each) will be two Springs flowing (free); }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|62}}| And besides these two, there are two other Gardens,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|64}}| Dark-green in colour (from plentiful watering). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|66}}| In them (each) will be two Springs pouring forth water in continuous abundance: }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|56|12}}| In Gardens of Bliss: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|12}}| One Day shalt thou see the believing men and the believing women- how their Light runs forward before them and by their right hands: (their greeting will be): "Good News for you this Day! Gardens beneath which flow rivers! to dwell therein for aye! This is indeed the highest Achievement!" }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|21}}| Be ye foremost (in seeking) Forgiveness from your Lord, and a Garden (of Bliss), the width whereof is as the width of heaven and earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His messengers: that is the Grace of Allah, which He bestows on whom he pleases: and Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|58|22}}| Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|64|9}}| The Day that He assembles you (all) for a Day of Assembly,- that will be a Day of mutual loss and gain (among you), and those who believe in Allah and work righteousness,- He will remove from them their ills, and He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that will be the Supreme Achievement. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|65|11}}| An Messenger, who rehearses to you the Signs of Allah containing clear explanations, that he may lead forth those who believe and do righteous deeds from the depths of Darkness into Light. And those who believe in Allah and work righteousness, He will admit to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: Allah has indeed granted for them a most excellent Provision.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|66|8}}| O ye who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance: In the hope that your Lord will remove from you your ills and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,- the Day that Allah will not permit to be humiliated the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their Light will run forward before them and by their right hands, while they say, "Our Lord! Perfect our Light for us, and grant us Forgiveness: for Thou hast power over all things."}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|68|34}}| Verily, for the Righteous, are Gardens of Delight, in the Presence of their Lord. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|70|35}}| Such will be the honoured ones in the Gardens (of Bliss). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|74|40}}| (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|85|11}}|For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great Salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires),}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: Therein will be a bubbling spring: Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, Goblets placed (ready), And cushions set in rows, And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|8}}| Their reward is with Allah: Gardens of Eternity, beneath which rivers flow; they will dwell therein for ever; Allah well pleased with them, and they with Him: all this for such as fear their Lord and Cherisher.}}

===Pleasant Company===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|15}}|Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord, with rivers flowing beneath; therein is their eternal home; with companions pure (and holy); and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|57}}| But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal home: Therein shall they have companions pure and holy: We shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening.}}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|24}}| Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|56}}| In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;-}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|70}}| In them will be fair (Companions), good, beautiful;- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|72}}| Companions restrained (as to their glances), in (goodly) pavilions;-}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|74}}| Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Food===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|25}}|But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever). }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|52}}| In them will be Fruits of every kind, two and two. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|68}}| In them will be Fruits, and dates and pomegranates: }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|69|21-24}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, In a Garden on high, The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. "Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}

===Drinks===
{{Quote|{{cite quran|37|40|end=48|style=ref}}| But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom. And besides them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|47|15}}| (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|52|22}}| And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|69|21-24}}| And he will be in a life of Bliss, In a Garden on high, The Fruits whereof (will hang in bunches) low and near. "Eat ye and drink ye, with full satisfaction; because of the (good) that ye sent before you, in the days that are gone!" }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|78|31|end=34|style=ref}}| Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim).}}

===Clothing===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|44|51-55}}| As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. There can they call for every kind of fruit in peace and security; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}

===Jewelry===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|23}}| Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|35|33}}| Gardens of Eternity will they enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|58}}| Like unto Rubies and coral.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|76|21}}| Upon them will be green Garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with Bracelets of silver; and their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy. }}
===Furniture===
{{Quote|{{Quran|18|31}}| For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|52|17|end=21|style=ref}}| As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,- enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|54}}| They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|55|76}}| Reclining on green Cushions and rich Carpets of beauty. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|15|end=23|style=ref}}| (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains:No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|56|28|end=37|style=ref}}| (They will be) among Lote-trees without thorns, Among Talh trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another,- In shade long-extended, By water flowing constantly, And fruit in abundance. Whose season is not limited, nor (supply) forbidden, And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|76|12|end=19|style=ref}}| And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk.Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil,- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. }}
{{Quote|{{cite quran|88|10|end=16|style=ref}}| In a Garden on high, Where they shall hear no (word) of vanity: Therein will be a bubbling spring: Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised on high, Goblets placed (ready), And cushions set in rows, And rich carpets (all) spread out. }}

===Dwellings===
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|72}}| Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|25|10}}| Blessed is He who, if that were His will, could give thee better (things) than those,- Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and He could give thee palaces (secure to dwell in). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|58}}| But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness - to them shall We give a Home in Heaven,- lofty mansions beneath which flow rivers,- to dwell therein for aye;- an excellent reward for those who do (good)!- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|20}}| But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of Allah: never doth Allah fail in (His) promise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|61|12}}| He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. }}

===Sadistic Pleasures===
{{Quote|{{Quran|8|50}}|If thou couldst see, when the angels take the souls of the Unbelievers (at death), (How) they smite their faces and their backs, (saying): "Taste the penalty of the blazing Fire". }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|42|22}}|Thou wilt see the Wrong-doers in fear on account of what they have earned, and (the burden of) that must (necessarily) fall on them. But those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens: they shall have, before their Lord, all that they wish for. That will indeed be the magnificent Bounty (of Allah). }}
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|42|44|end=45|style=ref}}|For any whom Allah leaves astray, there is no protector thereafter. And thou wilt see the Wrong-doers, when in sight of the Penalty, Say: "Is there any way (to effect) a return?" 
And thou wilt see them brought forward to the (Penalty), in a humble frame of mind because of (their) disgrace, (and) looking with a stealthy glance. And the Believers will say: "Those are indeed in loss, who have given to perdition their own selves and those belonging to them on the Day of Judgment. Behold! Truly the Wrong-doers are in a lasting Penalty!" }}

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|74|40|end=42|style=ref}} | (They will be) in Gardens (of Delight): they will question each other, 
And (ask) of the Sinners: 
"What led you into Hell Fire?" }}
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|83|28|end=36|style=ref}} |
A spring, from (the waters) whereof drink those Nearest to God. 
Those in sin used to laugh at those who believed, 
And whenever they passed by them, used to wink at each other (in mockery); 
And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting; 
And whenever they saw them, they would say, "Behold! These are the people truly astray!" 
But they had not been sent as keepers over them! 
But on this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers: 
On Thrones (of Dignity) they will command (a sight) (of all things). 
Will not the Unbelievers have been paid back for what they did? 
}}

===Other===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|112}}| Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|30|15}}| Then those who have believed and worked righteous deeds, shall be made happy in a Mead of Delight. }}

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2014-09-09T09:54:49Z

PW. Jansen: /* New additions/reviews */

User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith

2014-09-09T09:51:30Z

PW. Jansen: /* Changes in calendar */ addition of quote from pdf and external link

Additions proposed and listed by articles.

==Unclear errors/issues==
===Position of the Moon===
Link [http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/moon_locus.html]

<s>The following verse is a compounded error since it mentions the position of the moon in the erroneous seven heavens. Verse 37:6 about stars in the first heaven must also be taken into consideration. The word "therein" does not reveal the exact position of the moon but any position above the first heaven would mean the moon is further away from the earth than stars which is not true. The moon is only 384,000 kilometres from earth whereas stars are light years away. Some translations say the moon is in the "midst" of all heavens which is a clear error.</s>

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|71|15|16}}| See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, And made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a Lamp?}}

<s>"Therein" does not generally mean at the bottom or in an edge/corner. Even if the author meant that the moon is in the lowermost heaven, moonlight (reflected light from the sun) is noticeable only from the earth and it is insignificant compared to the much brighter stars which are sources of light. An all-knowing deity should not have termed the moon a light from a "heaven's" point of view.</s>

Ignore it for now. It may require a lot more explanation which is in the link, possibly an article.

;Constellations are Made by Allah
Constellations are essentially human observations of stars which are themselves many light years away from each other and from the earth. Light from a star takes as many years to reach us as its distance from earth in light years. So when we see a star of a constellation, or rather any star, it may not be in that location or it may have even ceased to exist. Thus, this verse reflects an observation by a naive author who simply credits Allah for the pattern of stars. Other translations say ''towers'' or ''mansions of stars'' instead of constellations but no such towers or mansions exist in the universe.

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|61}}|Blessed is He Who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a Lamp and a Moon giving light; }}

==Contradictions in the Qur'an and Hadith==

==Misc Issues==
===Logical nonsense: Clear?===
{{Quote|{{Quran|15|1}}|Alif Lam Ra. These are the Ayats of Revelation,- of a Qur'an that makes things clear.}}
{{quote | {{cite quran|43|1|end=2|style=ref}} | Ha-Mim By the Book that makes things clear,- }}

===Changes in calendar===

{{Quote| https://cmes.uchicago.edu/sites/cmes.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/Middle%20Eastern%20Calendars.pdf| According to Qur'an 10:5 "It was He that gave the sun its brigtness and the moon its light ordaining its phases that you may learn to compute the seasons and the years .... " and 9:36 "God ordained the months twelve in number when He created the heavens and the earth. Of these, four are sacred, according to the true Faith ...," In 638, the caliph Umar established epoch of the Islamic era as the date the Prophet Muhammad and 70 Muslims left Mecca for Medina. His departure or hijra thus became the name for the Islamic calendar (AH, Anno Hegirae): 1 Muharram 1 hijra corresponds to Friday, 16 July 622 Julian. Entirely lunar, the Islamic synodic year of 354 days is 11 or 12 days shorter than the sideral year; the '''Islamic calendar ignores this difference''' with the result that the months retrogress fairly rapidly through all the seasons, making a complete circuit every 33 years. For example, in 2000 Ramadan 1421 AH began on 28 November and in 2001 it began on 17 November; Ramadann 1472 will begin on 22 May 2050. The Islamic calendar has no intercalary month and the net result is that there is no easy way to calculate the precise equivalence between Islamic lunar and Western solar calendars without using officially printed calendars or some other method of conversion.
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{{Quote|{{Quran|9|37}}|Verily the transposing (of a prohibited month) is an addition to Unbelief: the Unbelievers are led to wrong thereby: for they make it lawful one year, and forbidden another year, in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allah and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their course seems pleasing to them. But Allah guideth not those who reject Faith. }}

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==[[Scientific Errors in the Hadith]]==
=== Sins of Mankind Darkened the Black Stone ===
{{Quote|{{cite web quotebox|url=http://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/9/70 |title= Jami' al Tirmidhi Vol. 2, Book 4, Hadith 877 |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|Ibn Abbas narrated that: The Messenger of Allah said: "The Black Stone descended from the Paradise, and it was more white than milk, then it was blacked by the sins of the children of Adam."}}

=== Milky Way===
{{Quote|{{cite web |url=http://sunnah.com/adab/33/14 |title=Al-Adab Al-Mufrad |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}} Book 33, Hadith 767|'Abbas said, "The rainbow is security for the people of the earth that they will not be drowned. The Milky Way is the door of the heavens and forms a furrow through it."}}

===Races and physical diversity in men are because of different materials from earth used to create Adam===

[http://sunnah.com/urn/639390]
Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: that the Messenger of Allah said: "Indeed Allah Most High created Adam from a handful that He took from all of the earth. So the children of Adam come in according with the earth, some of them come red, and white and black, and between that, and the thin, the thick, the filthy, and the clean."

==Temp==
===Forgive scholars===
[http://sunnah.com/urn/1252380]
It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Everyone in the universe, in the heavens and on earth, prays for forgiveness for the scholar, even the fish in the sea."

==[[Scientific Errors in the Qur'an]]==
===Prophets of Islam were Sent to Every Nation===
There is no evidence that prophets preaching Islam or similar beliefs were ever sent to China, Japan, Polynesia, Australia, South-East Asia, Central Asia, Scandinavia, the polar regions, most of Africa and the pre-Columbian Americas. Yet the Quran claims that every nation (or community) had a messenger.

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|36}}|And certainly We raised in '''every''' nation a messenger saying: Serve Allah and shun the Shaitan. So there were some of them whom Allah guided and there were others against whom error was due; therefore travel in the land, then see what was the end of the rejecters.}}

===Inanimate Objects Were Offered to Obey Allah but Feared Punishments===

exp. yet to do, check tafsir [http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1810&Itemid=89]

{{Quote|{{Quran|33|72}}|We did indeed offer the Trust to the Heavens and the Earth and the Mountains; but they refused to undertake it, being afraid thereof: but man undertook it;- He was indeed unjust and foolish;- }}

===Gender of the Baby is Decided After it Becomes a Clot===
The Qur'an says that the embryo which is transforms from a sperm to a clot, then it is shaped and then the male or female sex is made. Modern genetics has shown that the sex of a human is decided at the moment of conception.<ref>{{cite book|first=eds.: Anthony S. Fauci [et al.] ; eds. of previous ed.: T. R. Harrison [et al.]|title=Harrison's principles of internal medicine.|date=2008|publisher=McGraw-Hill Medical|location=New York [etc.]|isbn=978-0-07-147693-5|pages=2339–2346|edition=17th ed.}}</ref> <ref>Rey,Rodolfo, MD, PhD, Josso, Nathalie MD, PhD. (). Chapter 7. Sexual Differentiation. Available: http://www.endotext.org/pediatrics/pediatrics7/pediatrics7.html. Last accessed may 21, 2011.</ref>

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|75|37|39}}|Was he not a small seed in the seminal elements, Then he was a clot of blood, so He created (him) then made (him) perfect. Then He made of him two kinds, the male and the female.}}

===Mountains were Created in Four Days===

Mountain formation has never happened in four days (or four long time periods). Ranges and lone mountains have each taken different timespans to form. For example, the Ural mountains were formed 250 to 300 million years ago over a period of nearly 90 million years.<ref>Brown, D. and Echtler, H. (2005) "The Urals". In: R. C. Selley, L. R. M. Cocks & I. R. Plimer (eds.), ''Encyclopedia of Geology'', Vol. 2. Elsevier, pp. 86–95.</ref><ref>Cocks, L. R. M. and Torsvik, T. H. (2006) [http://web.archive.org/web/20090731085326/http://www.geodynamics.no/guest/GeolSoc06.pdf "European geography in a global context from the Vendian to the end of the Palaeozoic"]. In Gee, D. G. & Stephenson, R. A. (eds), ''European Lithosphere Dynamics. Geological Society, London, Memoirs'', 32, 83–95.</ref><ref>Puchkov, V. N. (2009). "The evolution of the Uralian orogen". Geological Society, London, Special Publications 327: 161. doi:10.1144/SP327.9. </ref><ref>Brown, D.; Juhlin, C.; Ayala, C.; Tryggvason, A.; Bea, F.; Alvarez-Marron, J.; Carbonell, R.; Seward, D.; Glasmacher, U.; Puchkov, V.; Perez-Estaun, A. (2008). "Mountain building processes during continent–continent collision in the Uralides". Earth-Science Reviews 89 (3–4): 177. doi:10.1016/j.earscirev.2008.05.001. </ref> The uplift of the Alps began 160 million years ago and it is ongoing.<ref>[http://www.steinmann.uni-bonn.de/arbeitsgruppen/strukturgeologie/lehre/wissen-gratis/geology-of-the-alps-part-1-general-remarks-austroalpine-nappes Geology of the Alps Part 1: General remarks; Austroalpine nappes]</ref> The current volcano of Mount Fuji was formed 10000 years ago on top of another 100,000 years old volcano.<ref>[http://legacy.earlham.edu/~steelem/mtfuji.htm The Birth of Fuji]</ref>

{{Quote|{{Quran|41|10}}|He placed therein firm hills rising above it, and blessed it and measured therein its sustenance in four Days, alike for (all) who ask;}}

===Fruits are in pairs ===
Most translations and commentaries of this verse claim that all fruits are found in pairs of male and female. But fruits are formed when pollen fertilizes ovules and they do not have any gender.

{{Quote|{{Quran|13|3}}|And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider! }}

Some translations imply that all fruits give rise to male and female plants or gametes. There is, however, considerable diversity in the [[w:Plant reproductive morphology#Terminology|reproductive morphology of plants]] which involves combinations of male, female or both organs, in same or separate flowers, which can be found on the same or separate plants depending upon the species. A definite "pair" cannot be construed for all fruit-bearing plants.

===Shadows prostrate to Allah===

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|48}}|Have they not observed all things that Allah hath created, how their shadows incline to the right and to the left, making prostration unto Allah, and they are lowly? }}

===Functions of Heart===

In several verses, the Qur'an ascribes understanding and thinking to the heart instead of the brain.

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|25}}|Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients." }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|179}}|Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning). }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|87}}|They prefer to be with (the women), who remain behind (at home): their hearts are sealed and so they understand not. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|17|46}}|And We place upon their hearts veils lest they should understand it, and in their ears a deafness; and when thou makest mention of thy Lord alone in the Qur'an, they turn their backs in aversion. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|11|5}}|Lo! now they fold up their breasts that they may hide (their thoughts) from Him. At the very moment when they cover themselves with their clothing, Allah knoweth that which they keep hidden and that which they proclaim. Lo! He is Aware of what is in the breasts (of men). }}

===Existing errors===

====Non_existent Mosque in Jerusalem====
Muslims claim that Al-Aqsa mosque is mentioned in the Qur'an as the furthest mosque, even though there was obviously no mosque in Jerusalem during Muhammad's time. See also: [http://alisina.org/blog/2010/12/08/masjid-ul-aqsa-muhammad-error/]

{{Quote|{{Quran|17|1}}|Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless,- in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things).
}}

==[[Science and the Seven Earths]]==
===Seven Layers of Earth's Atmosphere===
Secondly, this claim contradicts the Qur'an. The following verse says that stars are located in the lowermost heaven.

{{Quote|{{Quran|37|07}}| We have indeed decked the lower heaven with beauty (in) the stars,- }}

Stars are not located in the lowest layer of the atmosphere i.e. troposphere but are light years away from the earth.

===Seven Universes===
Another common apologetic claim is that these seven heavens are actually seven universes which we are yet to discover.

{{Quote|{{cite web|url=http://www.understanding-islam.com/q-and-a/miscellaneous-issues/what-about-seven-heavens |title=Understanding-Islam.com |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|It seems that the huge universe that we live in, the one whose boundaries are not yet known to man, is just one of these heavens (universes) there are seven others, of which we -- with all our scientific developments -- do not know anything about.}}

The following verse contradicts such a claim since it says rain was made to fall from heaven. Certainly, rain does not come from outer space. The word used for heaven here is ''sama'', the same as that for the seven heavens.

{{Quote|{{Quran|54|11}}|So We opened the gates of heaven, with water pouring forth. }}

==[[Quran and Semen Production]]==
===Tahir Ul-Qadri===
{{Quote|{{cite web|url=http://minhajbook.kortechx.netdna-cdn.com/images-books/creation-man/creation-man_1.pdf |title=Creation of Man: A Review of the Qur'an & Modern Embryology |publisher=Minhaj-ul-Qur'an |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|{{Quote||"So let man think from what he is created. He
is created from a gushing fluid that is issued
from between sacrum and symphisis pubis (86:5-7)"}}

Arabic words like many other languages often carry more than one meaning of a single word. For instance the Arabic word ‘salat’ has 60 meanings. ... Moreover the seminal passages do indeed lie between the sacrum referred to as sulb in the Qurā’nic verse and the symphisis pubis referred to as tarā’ib. }}

There is no evidence that ''tara'ib'' can be translated as [[w:pubic symphisis|pubic symphisis]]. Even if Qadri's claim of a single word having a large number of meanings were true, ''tara'ib'' would have meant many organs other than the pubic symphisis. Those organs would have no relationship with the place where semen flows. It is a typical [[w:Texas sharpshooter fallacy|Texas sharpshooter fallacy]] to focus only on similarities between two sets of information and draw a conclusion while ignoring the differences. Qadri also ignores the testicles which produce the essential sperms. They are not situated in the zone he mentioned but below the symphisis.<ref>See images here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gray1156.png] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gray1136.png]</ref>

==[[The Quran and Mountains]]==
===Mountains Stabilize the Earth's Rotation About its Axis===
The mass of the Earth is 5.97*1024 kilograms. The mass of mountains is of much lower order, hence they have an infinitesimally small effect on the earth's moment of inertia. The earth's rotational speed and axial tilt are affected more by the distance of the moon from earth and [[w:Post-glacial rebound]] since the ice ages.

===Mountains Absorb Some Waves During Earthquakes===
{{Quote|{{Quote|{{cite web|url=http://bssa.geoscienceworld.org/content/97/6/2066.abstract |title=Effects of Large-Scale Surface Topography on Ground Motions, as Demonstrated by a Study of the San Gabriel Mountains, Los Angeles, California |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|We investigate the effects of large-scale surface topography on ground motions generated by nearby faulting. We show a specific example studying the effect of the San Gabriel Mountains, which are bounded by the Mojave segment of the San Andreas fault on the north and by the Los Angeles Basin on the south. By simulating a Mw 7.5 earthquake on the Mojave segment of the San Andreas fault, we show that the San Gabriel Mountains act as a natural seismic insulator for metropolitan Los Angeles. The topography of the mountains scatters the surface waves generated by the rupture on the San Andreas fault, leading to less-efficient excitation of basin-edge generated waves and natural resonances within the Los Angeles Basin. The effect of the mountains reduces the peak amplitude of ground velocity for some regions in the basin by as much as 50% in the frequency band up to 0.5 Hz. These results suggest that, depending on the relative location of faulting and the nearby large-scale topography, the topography can shield some areas from ground shaking.}}

Such studies are sometimes quoted by apologists to prove their point. It is clear however, that earthquakes are not prevented. Only the waves are somewhat affected by the presence of mountains as proven in the above simulation. If there were an earthquake larger than 7.5 or if a settlement were situated between its epicenter and a mountain range, there would be widespread destruction anyway.

==[[Scientific Errors in the Hadith]]==
===Allah made Mecca Sacred when He Created Heavens and Earth===
No human settlements existed when the Universe and Earth were forming.
{{Quote|{{Bukhari|5|59|603}}|Narrated Mujahid: Allah's Messenger got up on the day of the Conquest of Mecca and said, '''"Allah has made Mecca a sanctuary since the day He created the Heavens and the Earth,''' and it will remain a sanctuary by virtue of the sanctity Allah has bestowed on it till the Day of Resurrection. It (i.e. fighting in it) was not made lawful to anyone before me!, nor will it be made lawful to anyone after me, and it was not made lawful for me except for a short period of time. Its game should not be chased, nor should its trees be cut, nor its vegetation or grass uprooted, not its Luqata (i.e. Most things) picked up except by one who makes a public announcement about it." Al-Abbas bin `Abdul Muttalib said, "Except the Idhkhir, O Allah's Messenger, as it is indispensable for blacksmiths and houses." On that, the Prophet kept quiet and then said, "Except the Idhkhir as it is lawful to cut."}}

===A Year was Equal to Twelve Lunar Months during the Creation of Heavens and Earth===

Arabs measured months according to the orbit of the moon. But the moon was formed after the Earth and much after the Universe. It was much closer to the earth than it is today, and it orbited the Earth once in every five hours.<ref>http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/11/28/3642932.htm</ref> The length of its orbit and the time taken have been steadily increasing since then.<ref>[http://www.planetary-science.com/content/pdf/s13535-014-0002-5.pdf The past and present Earth-Moon system: the
speed of light stays steady as tides evolve] pp 2</ref> But the Earth's orbit around the Sun has not changed. Hence, a year had more than 12 lunar months in the past, had humans existed to count them.

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|54|419}}|The Prophet said. "(The division of time has turned to its original form which was current when Allah created the Heavens and the Earths. The year is of twelve months, out of which four months are sacred: Three are in succession Dhul-Qa' da, Dhul-Hijja and Muharram, and (the fourth is) Rajab of (the tribe of) Mudar which comes between Jumadi-ath-Thaniyah and Sha ban."
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===Graves of true Muslims get widened to 70 cubits and bodies of hypocrites are squeezed===

{{Quote|{{Muslim|40|6862}}|Anas b. Malik reported Allah's Apostle having said: When the servant is placed in his grave and his companions retrace their steps arid he hears the noise of the footsteps, then two angels come to him and make him sit and say to him: What you have to say about this person (the Holy Prophet)? If he is believer, he would say: I bear testimony to the fact that he is a servant of Allah and His Messenger. Then it would be said to him: Look to your seat in the Hell- Fire, for Allah has substituted (the seat of yours) with a seat in Paradise. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: He would be shown both the seats. Qatada said: It was mentioned to us that '''his grave (the grave of a believer) expands to seventy cubits and is full with verdure until the Day when they would be resurrected.'''}}

{{Quote|{{cite web|url=http://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/10/107 |title= Jami' al Tirmidhi Vol. 2, Book 5, Hadith 1071 |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|Abu Hurairah narrated that: The Messenger of Allah said: "When the deceased - or he said when one of you - is buried, two angels, black and blue (eyed_ come to him. One of them is called Al-Munkar, and the other An-Nakir. They say: 'What did you used to say about this man?' So he says what he was saying (before death) 'He is Allah's slave and His Messenger. I testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is His slave and His Messenger.' So they say: 'We knew that you would say this.' '''Then his grave is expanded to seventy by seventy cubits, then it is illuminated for him.''' Then it is said to him: 'Sleep.' So he said: 'Can I return to my family to inform them?' They say: 'Sleep as a newlywed, whom none awakens but the dearest of his family.' Until Allah resurrects him from his resting place.""If he was a hypocrite he would say: 'I heard people saying something, so I said the same; I do not know.' So they said: 'We knew you would say that.' '''So the earth is told: 'Constrict him.' So it constricts around him, squeezing his ribs together.''' He continues being punished like that until Allah resurrects him from his resting place."}}

===Sociology: Ethiopian Translation of Killing===
Ethiopia has several languages. In Oromo, the word for kill is ''fita-fitta'' or ''ijeesa-fta.''<ref>http://oromianews.wordpress.com/english-oromo-borana-dictionary/</ref> In Amharic it is ''megedele.''<ref>http://www.ethiopiandictionary.com/</ref> In Somali, the verb kill is ''dilid'' and killing is ''dilka''. In Tigrinya ''Al'' does not mean "the" (there is no word for "the"). But Muhammad claims that Al-Harj is an Ethiopian word for killing.

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|88|185}}|Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet said, "Near the establishment of the Hour there will be days during which (religious) knowledge will be taken away (vanish) and general ignorance will spread, and there will be Al-Harj in abundance, and Al-Harj means killing."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|88|185}}|Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet said...(as above, 185). And Harj, in the Ethiopian language, means killing.}}

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In this translation Zakat is translated with ''regular charity''.
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|43}}|And be steadfast in prayer; practise ''regular charity''; and bow down your heads with those who bow down (in worship).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|83}}|And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah; treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise ''regular charity''. Then did ye turn back, except a few among you, and ye backslide (even now). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|110}}|And be steadfast in prayer and ''regular in charity'': And whatever good ye send forth for your souls before you, ye shall find it with Allah: for Allah sees Well all that ye do. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|277}}|Those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and establish regular prayers and ''regular charity'', will have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|77}}|Hast thou not turned Thy vision to those who were told to hold back their hands (from fight) but establish regular prayers and spend in ''regular charity''? When (at length) the order for fighting was issued to them, behold! a section of them feared men as - or even more than - they should have feared Allah. They said: "Our Lord! Why hast Thou ordered us to fight? Wouldst Thou not Grant us respite to our (natural) term, near (enough)?" Say: "Short is the enjoyment of this world: the Hereafter is the best for those who do right: Never will ye be dealt with unjustly in the very least! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|162}}|But those among them who are well-grounded in knowledge, and the believers, believe in what hath been revealed to thee and what was revealed before thee: And (especially) those who establish regular prayer and practise ''regular charity'' and believe in Allah and in the Last Day: To them shall We soon give a great reward. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|12}}|Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel, and we appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: if ye (but) establish regular prayers, practise ''regular charity'', believe in my apostles, honour and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path or rectitude." }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|55}}|Your (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (fellowship of) believers,- those who establish regular prayers and ''regular charity'', and they bow down humbly (in worship). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|7|156}}|"And ordain for us that which is good, in this life and in the Hereafter: for we have turned unto Thee." He said: "With My punishment I visit whom I will; but My mercy extendeth to all things. That (mercy) I shall ordain for those who do right, and practise ''regular charity'', and those who believe in Our signs;- }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|5}}|But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise ''regular charity'', then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|11}}|But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practice ''regular charity'', they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|18}}|The mosques of Allah shall be visited and maintained by such as believe in Allah and the Last Day, establish regular prayers, and practise ''regular charity'', and fear none (at all) except Allah. It is they who are expected to be on true guidance. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|71}}|The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practise ''regular charity'', and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|31}}|"And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and ''Charity'' as long as I live; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|19|55}}|He used to enjoin on his people Prayer and ''Charity'', and he was most acceptable in the sight of his Lord. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|21|73}}|And We made them leaders, guiding (men) by Our Command, and We sent them inspiration to do good deeds, to establish regular prayers, and to practise ''regular charity''; and they constantly served Us (and Us only). }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|41}}|(They are) those who, if We establish them in the land, establish regular prayer and give ''regular charity'', enjoin the right and forbid wrong: with Allah rests the end (and decision) of (all) affairs. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|78}}|And strive in His cause as ye ought to strive, (with sincerity and under discipline). He has chosen you, and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion; it is the cult of your father Abraham. It is He Who has named you Muslims, both before and in this (Revelation); that the Messenger may be a witness for you, and ye be witnesses for mankind! So establish regular Prayer, give ''regular Charity'', and hold fast to Allah. He is your Protector - the Best to protect and the Best to help! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|23|4}}|Who are active in deeds of ''charity''; }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|24|56}}|So establish regular Prayer and give ''regular Charity''; and obey the Messenger, that ye may receive mercy. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|27|3}}|Those who establish regular prayers and give in ''regular charity'', and also have (full) assurance of the hereafter. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|30|39}}|That which ye lay out for increase through the property of (other) people, will have no increase with Allah. but that which ye lay out for ''charity'', seeking the Countenance of Allah, (will increase): it is these who will get a recompense multiplied. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|31|4}}|Those who establish regular Prayer, and give ''regular Charity'', and have (in their hearts) the assurance of the Hereafter. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|33|33}}|And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give ''regular Charity''; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|41|7}}|Those who practise not ''regular Charity'', and who even deny the Hereafter. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|58|13}}| Is it that ye are afraid of spending sums in charity before your private consultation (with him)? If, then, ye do not so, and Allah forgives you, then (at least) establish regular prayer; practise ''regular charity''; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|73|20}}|Thy Lord doth know that thou standest forth (to prayer) nigh two-thirds of the night, or half the night, or a third of the night, and so doth a party of those with thee. But Allah doth appoint night and day in due measure He knoweth that ye are unable to keep count thereof. So He hath turned to you (in mercy): read ye, therefore, of the Qur'an as much as may be easy for you. He knoweth that there may be (some) among you in ill-health; others travelling through the land, seeking of Allah's bounty; yet others fighting in Allah's Cause, read ye, therefore, as much of the Qur'an as may be easy (for you); and establish regular Prayer and give ''regular Charity''; and loan to Allah a Beautiful Loan. And whatever good ye send forth for your souls ye shall find it in Allah's Presence,- yea, better and greater, in Reward and seek ye the Grace of Allah. for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|98|5}}|And they have been commanded no more than this: To worship Allah, offering Him sincere devotion, being true (in faith); to establish regular prayer; and to practise ''regular charity''; and that is the Religion Right and Straight. }}

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User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith

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==Scientific Errors in the Quran==
===Position of the Moon===
Link [http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/moon_locus.html]

<s>The following verse is a compounded error since it mentions the position of the moon in the erroneous seven heavens. Verse 37:6 about stars in the first heaven must also be taken into consideration. The word "therein" does not reveal the exact position of the moon but any position above the first heaven would mean the moon is further away from the earth than stars which is not true. The moon is only 384,000 kilometres from earth whereas stars are light years away. Some translations say the moon is in the "midst" of all heavens which is a clear error.</s>

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|71|15|16}}| See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, And made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a Lamp?}}

<s>"Therein" does not generally mean at the bottom or in an edge/corner. Even if the author meant that the moon is in the lowermost heaven, moonlight (reflected light from the sun) is noticeable only from the earth and it is insignificant compared to the much brighter stars which are sources of light. An all-knowing deity should not have termed the moon a light from a "heaven's" point of view.</s>

Ignore it for now. It may require a lot more explanation which is in the link, possibly an article.

==Contradictions in the Qur'an and Hadith==

==Misc Issues==
===Errors in the Quran===
;Constellations are Made by Allah
Constellations are essentially human observations of stars which are themselves many light years away from each other and from the earth. Light from a star takes as many years to reach us as its distance from earth in light years. So when we see a star of a constellation, or rather any star, it may not be in that location or it may have even ceased to exist. Thus, this verse reflects an observation by a naive author who simply credits Allah for the pattern of stars. Other translations say ''towers'' or ''mansions of stars'' instead of constellations but no such towers or mansions exist in the universe.

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|61}}|Blessed is He Who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a Lamp and a Moon giving light; }}

===Logical nonsense: Clear?===
{{Quote|{{Quran|15|1}}|Alif Lam Ra. These are the Ayats of Revelation,- of a Qur'an that makes things clear.}}
{{quote | {{cite quran|43|1|end=2|style=ref}} | Ha-Mim By the Book that makes things clear,- }}

=Pending review=

==[[Scientific Errors in the Hadith]]==
=== Sins of Mankind Darkened the Black Stone ===
{{Quote|{{cite web quotebox|url=http://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/9/70 |title= Jami' al Tirmidhi Vol. 2, Book 4, Hadith 877 |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|Ibn Abbas narrated that: The Messenger of Allah said: "The Black Stone descended from the Paradise, and it was more white than milk, then it was blacked by the sins of the children of Adam."}}

=== Milky Way===
{{Quote|{{cite web |url=http://sunnah.com/adab/33/14 |title=Al-Adab Al-Mufrad |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}} Book 33, Hadith 767|'Abbas said, "The rainbow is security for the people of the earth that they will not be drowned. The Milky Way is the door of the heavens and forms a furrow through it."}}

==Temp==
===Adam from earth===
[http://sunnah.com/urn/639390]
Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: that the Messenger of Allah said: "Indeed Allah Most High created Adam from a handful that He took from all of the earth. So the children of Adam come in according with the earth, some of them come red, and white and black, and between that, and the thin, the thick, the filthy, and the clean."

===Forgive scholars===
[http://sunnah.com/urn/1252380]
It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Everyone in the universe, in the heavens and on earth, prays for forgiveness for the scholar, even the fish in the sea."

==[[Scientific Errors in the Qur'an]]==
===Prophets of Islam were Sent to Every Nation===
There is no evidence that prophets preaching Islam or similar beliefs were ever sent to China, Japan, Polynesia, Australia, South-East Asia, Central Asia, Scandinavia, the polar regions, most of Africa and the pre-Columbian Americas. Yet the Quran claims that every nation (or community) had a messenger.

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|36}}|And certainly We raised in '''every''' nation a messenger saying: Serve Allah and shun the Shaitan. So there were some of them whom Allah guided and there were others against whom error was due; therefore travel in the land, then see what was the end of the rejecters.}}

===Inanimate Objects Were Offered to Obey Allah but Feared Punishments===

exp. yet to do, check tafsir [http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1810&Itemid=89]

{{Quote|{{Quran|33|72}}|We did indeed offer the Trust to the Heavens and the Earth and the Mountains; but they refused to undertake it, being afraid thereof: but man undertook it;- He was indeed unjust and foolish;- }}

===Gender of the Baby is Decided After it Becomes a Clot===
The Qur'an says that the embryo which is transforms from a sperm to a clot, then it is shaped and then the male or female sex is made. Modern genetics has shown that the sex of a human is decided at the moment of conception.<ref>{{cite book|first=eds.: Anthony S. Fauci [et al.] ; eds. of previous ed.: T. R. Harrison [et al.]|title=Harrison's principles of internal medicine.|date=2008|publisher=McGraw-Hill Medical|location=New York [etc.]|isbn=978-0-07-147693-5|pages=2339–2346|edition=17th ed.}}</ref> <ref>Rey,Rodolfo, MD, PhD, Josso, Nathalie MD, PhD. (). Chapter 7. Sexual Differentiation. Available: http://www.endotext.org/pediatrics/pediatrics7/pediatrics7.html. Last accessed may 21, 2011.</ref>

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|75|37|39}}|Was he not a small seed in the seminal elements, Then he was a clot of blood, so He created (him) then made (him) perfect. Then He made of him two kinds, the male and the female.}}

===Mountains were Created in Four Days===

Mountain formation has never happened in four days (or four long time periods). Ranges and lone mountains have each taken different timespans to form. For example, the Ural mountains were formed 250 to 300 million years ago over a period of nearly 90 million years.<ref>Brown, D. and Echtler, H. (2005) "The Urals". In: R. C. Selley, L. R. M. Cocks & I. R. Plimer (eds.), ''Encyclopedia of Geology'', Vol. 2. Elsevier, pp. 86–95.</ref><ref>Cocks, L. R. M. and Torsvik, T. H. (2006) [http://web.archive.org/web/20090731085326/http://www.geodynamics.no/guest/GeolSoc06.pdf "European geography in a global context from the Vendian to the end of the Palaeozoic"]. In Gee, D. G. & Stephenson, R. A. (eds), ''European Lithosphere Dynamics. Geological Society, London, Memoirs'', 32, 83–95.</ref><ref>Puchkov, V. N. (2009). "The evolution of the Uralian orogen". Geological Society, London, Special Publications 327: 161. doi:10.1144/SP327.9. </ref><ref>Brown, D.; Juhlin, C.; Ayala, C.; Tryggvason, A.; Bea, F.; Alvarez-Marron, J.; Carbonell, R.; Seward, D.; Glasmacher, U.; Puchkov, V.; Perez-Estaun, A. (2008). "Mountain building processes during continent–continent collision in the Uralides". Earth-Science Reviews 89 (3–4): 177. doi:10.1016/j.earscirev.2008.05.001. </ref> The uplift of the Alps began 160 million years ago and it is ongoing.<ref>[http://www.steinmann.uni-bonn.de/arbeitsgruppen/strukturgeologie/lehre/wissen-gratis/geology-of-the-alps-part-1-general-remarks-austroalpine-nappes Geology of the Alps Part 1: General remarks; Austroalpine nappes]</ref> The current volcano of Mount Fuji was formed 10000 years ago on top of another 100,000 years old volcano.<ref>[http://legacy.earlham.edu/~steelem/mtfuji.htm The Birth of Fuji]</ref>

{{Quote|{{Quran|41|10}}|He placed therein firm hills rising above it, and blessed it and measured therein its sustenance in four Days, alike for (all) who ask;}}

===Fruits are in pairs ===
Most translations and commentaries of this verse claim that all fruits are found in pairs of male and female. But fruits are formed when pollen fertilizes ovules and they do not have any gender.

{{Quote|{{Quran|13|3}}|And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider! }}

Some translations imply that all fruits give rise to male and female plants or gametes. There is, however, considerable diversity in the [[w:Plant reproductive morphology#Terminology|reproductive morphology of plants]] which involves combinations of male, female or both organs, in same or separate flowers, which can be found on the same or separate plants depending upon the species. A definite "pair" cannot be construed for all fruit-bearing plants.

===Shadows prostrate to Allah===

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|48}}|Have they not observed all things that Allah hath created, how their shadows incline to the right and to the left, making prostration unto Allah, and they are lowly? }}

===Functions of Heart===

In several verses, the Qur'an ascribes understanding and thinking to the heart instead of the brain.

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|25}}|Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients." }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|179}}|Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning). }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|87}}|They prefer to be with (the women), who remain behind (at home): their hearts are sealed and so they understand not. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|17|46}}|And We place upon their hearts veils lest they should understand it, and in their ears a deafness; and when thou makest mention of thy Lord alone in the Qur'an, they turn their backs in aversion. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|11|5}}|Lo! now they fold up their breasts that they may hide (their thoughts) from Him. At the very moment when they cover themselves with their clothing, Allah knoweth that which they keep hidden and that which they proclaim. Lo! He is Aware of what is in the breasts (of men). }}

===Existing errors===

====Non_existent Mosque in Jerusalem====
Muslims claim that Al-Aqsa mosque is mentioned in the Qur'an as the furthest mosque, even though there was obviously no mosque in Jerusalem during Muhammad's time. See also: [http://alisina.org/blog/2010/12/08/masjid-ul-aqsa-muhammad-error/]

{{Quote|{{Quran|17|1}}|Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless,- in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things).
}}

==[[Science and the Seven Earths]]==
===Seven Layers of Earth's Atmosphere===
Secondly, this claim contradicts the Qur'an. The following verse says that stars are located in the lowermost heaven.

{{Quote|{{Quran|37|07}}| We have indeed decked the lower heaven with beauty (in) the stars,- }}

Stars are not located in the lowest layer of the atmosphere i.e. troposphere but are light years away from the earth.

===Seven Universes===
Another common apologetic claim is that these seven heavens are actually seven universes which we are yet to discover.

{{Quote|{{cite web|url=http://www.understanding-islam.com/q-and-a/miscellaneous-issues/what-about-seven-heavens |title=Understanding-Islam.com |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|It seems that the huge universe that we live in, the one whose boundaries are not yet known to man, is just one of these heavens (universes) there are seven others, of which we -- with all our scientific developments -- do not know anything about.}}

The following verse contradicts such a claim since it says rain was made to fall from heaven. Certainly, rain does not come from outer space. The word used for heaven here is ''sama'', the same as that for the seven heavens.

{{Quote|{{Quran|54|11}}|So We opened the gates of heaven, with water pouring forth. }}

==[[Quran and Semen Production]]==
===Tahir Ul-Qadri===
{{Quote|{{cite web|url=http://minhajbook.kortechx.netdna-cdn.com/images-books/creation-man/creation-man_1.pdf |title=Creation of Man: A Review of the Qur'an & Modern Embryology |publisher=Minhaj-ul-Qur'an |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|{{Quote||"So let man think from what he is created. He
is created from a gushing fluid that is issued
from between sacrum and symphisis pubis (86:5-7)"}}

Arabic words like many other languages often carry more than one meaning of a single word. For instance the Arabic word ‘salat’ has 60 meanings. ... Moreover the seminal passages do indeed lie between the sacrum referred to as sulb in the Qurā’nic verse and the symphisis pubis referred to as tarā’ib. }}

There is no evidence that ''tara'ib'' can be translated as [[w:pubic symphisis|pubic symphisis]]. Even if Qadri's claim of a single word having a large number of meanings were true, ''tara'ib'' would have meant many organs other than the pubic symphisis. Those organs would have no relationship with the place where semen flows. It is a typical [[w:Texas sharpshooter fallacy|Texas sharpshooter fallacy]] to focus only on similarities between two sets of information and draw a conclusion while ignoring the differences. Qadri also ignores the testicles which produce the essential sperms. They are not situated in the zone he mentioned but below the symphisis.<ref>See images here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gray1156.png] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gray1136.png]</ref>

==[[The Quran and Mountains]]==
===Mountains Stabilize the Earth's Rotation About its Axis===
The mass of the Earth is 5.97*1024 kilograms. The mass of mountains is of much lower order, hence they have an infinitesimally small effect on the earth's moment of inertia. The earth's rotational speed and axial tilt are affected more by the distance of the moon from earth and [[w:Post-glacial rebound]] since the ice ages.

===Mountains Absorb Some Waves During Earthquakes===
{{Quote|{{Quote|{{cite web|url=http://bssa.geoscienceworld.org/content/97/6/2066.abstract |title=Effects of Large-Scale Surface Topography on Ground Motions, as Demonstrated by a Study of the San Gabriel Mountains, Los Angeles, California |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|We investigate the effects of large-scale surface topography on ground motions generated by nearby faulting. We show a specific example studying the effect of the San Gabriel Mountains, which are bounded by the Mojave segment of the San Andreas fault on the north and by the Los Angeles Basin on the south. By simulating a Mw 7.5 earthquake on the Mojave segment of the San Andreas fault, we show that the San Gabriel Mountains act as a natural seismic insulator for metropolitan Los Angeles. The topography of the mountains scatters the surface waves generated by the rupture on the San Andreas fault, leading to less-efficient excitation of basin-edge generated waves and natural resonances within the Los Angeles Basin. The effect of the mountains reduces the peak amplitude of ground velocity for some regions in the basin by as much as 50% in the frequency band up to 0.5 Hz. These results suggest that, depending on the relative location of faulting and the nearby large-scale topography, the topography can shield some areas from ground shaking.}}

Such studies are sometimes quoted by apologists to prove their point. It is clear however, that earthquakes are not prevented. Only the waves are somewhat affected by the presence of mountains as proven in the above simulation. If there were an earthquake larger than 7.5 or if a settlement were situated between its epicenter and a mountain range, there would be widespread destruction anyway.

==[[Scientific Errors in the Hadith]]==
===Allah made Mecca Sacred when He Created Heavens and Earth===
No human settlements existed when the Universe and Earth were forming.
{{Quote|{{Bukhari|5|59|603}}|Narrated Mujahid: Allah's Messenger got up on the day of the Conquest of Mecca and said, '''"Allah has made Mecca a sanctuary since the day He created the Heavens and the Earth,''' and it will remain a sanctuary by virtue of the sanctity Allah has bestowed on it till the Day of Resurrection. It (i.e. fighting in it) was not made lawful to anyone before me!, nor will it be made lawful to anyone after me, and it was not made lawful for me except for a short period of time. Its game should not be chased, nor should its trees be cut, nor its vegetation or grass uprooted, not its Luqata (i.e. Most things) picked up except by one who makes a public announcement about it." Al-Abbas bin `Abdul Muttalib said, "Except the Idhkhir, O Allah's Messenger, as it is indispensable for blacksmiths and houses." On that, the Prophet kept quiet and then said, "Except the Idhkhir as it is lawful to cut."}}

===A Year was Equal to Twelve Lunar Months during the Creation of Heavens and Earth===

Arabs measured months according to the orbit of the moon. But the moon was formed after the Earth and much after the Universe. It was much closer to the earth than it is today, and it orbited the Earth once in every five hours.<ref>http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/11/28/3642932.htm</ref> The length of its orbit and the time taken have been steadily increasing since then.<ref>[http://www.planetary-science.com/content/pdf/s13535-014-0002-5.pdf The past and present Earth-Moon system: the
speed of light stays steady as tides evolve] pp 2</ref> But the Earth's orbit around the Sun has not changed. Hence, a year had more than 12 lunar months in the past, had humans existed to count them.

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|54|419}}|The Prophet said. "(The division of time has turned to its original form which was current when Allah created the Heavens and the Earths. The year is of twelve months, out of which four months are sacred: Three are in succession Dhul-Qa' da, Dhul-Hijja and Muharram, and (the fourth is) Rajab of (the tribe of) Mudar which comes between Jumadi-ath-Thaniyah and Sha ban."
}}

===Sociology: Ethiopian Translation of Killing===
Ethiopia has several languages. In Oromo, the word for kill is ''fita-fitta'' or ''ijeesa-fta.''<ref>http://oromianews.wordpress.com/english-oromo-borana-dictionary/</ref> In Amharic it is ''megedele.''<ref>http://www.ethiopiandictionary.com/</ref> In Somali, the verb kill is ''dilid'' and killing is ''dilka''. In Tigrinya ''Al'' does not mean "the" (there is no word for "the"). But Muhammad claims that Al-Harj is an Ethiopian word for killing.

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|88|185}}|Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet said, "Near the establishment of the Hour there will be days during which (religious) knowledge will be taken away (vanish) and general ignorance will spread, and there will be Al-Harj in abundance, and Al-Harj means killing."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|88|185}}|Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet said...(as above, 185). And Harj, in the Ethiopian language, means killing.}}

==ref==
{{reflist}}

Scientific Errors in the Quran

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PW. Jansen: /* Sailing of Ships is a Miracle */ addition of 42:32-34 and 17:66

{{page_title|Scientific Errors in the Qur'an}}
{{under review}}
Muslims believe that the [[Qur'an]] contains a message from an all-powerful, all-knowing, infallible being. If this is true then it should not contain any [[Contradictions and Errors|errors, mistakes]], or information that contradicts known facts about the universe. If even one error exists in the text of [[Islam]]'s holy book then the claims of divine authorship and infallibility are not true. An objective evaluation of the Qur’an shows that it contains numerous [[Islam and Science|scientific]] and historical errors and it reflects a pre-scientific, 7th century view of the natural world.

Some apologists will contest these numerous scientific errors in the Qur'an by appealing to metaphor, alternative meanings, or [[w:Phenomenology (philosophy)|phenomenological]] interpretations of the text. Even if we suppose that alternative explanations were possible in every case, the wording and content of the Qur'anic verses often mimic the popular mythology and unscientific misconceptions of the time in which they were recorded. The author of the Qur’an makes no clear or unambiguous statements that differentiate his understanding of the natural world from the common folklore of the people living in the 7th century. If the Qur’an was delivered by an all-powerful, all-knowing being then he would have been able to foresee how such ambiguous and misleading statements would be understood by future generations and the doubts and confusions they would cause. This alone should be reason to reject any claims to its divine authorship.

==Astronomy==

=== Geocentricism===
{{Main|Geocentrism and the Quran|l1=Geocentrism and the Qur'an}}

The Qur'an mentions numerous times that the sun and the moon travel in an orbit, but does not mention once that the earth does too. This is consistent with a earth-centered (geocentric) view of the cosmos that places a motionless earth at the center of the universe and all "heavenly bodies" travel around the earth. This was the prevailing understanding of the universe prior to the 16th century when Copernicus helped explain and popularize a sun-centered (heliocentric) view of the universe. Tellingly, the sun's orbit is always mentioned in the context of night and day.

{{Quote|{{cite quran|36|37|end=38|style=ref}}|
A token unto them is night. We strip it of the day, and lo! they are in darkness. And the sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.}}
This is in a passage about night and day. Right after describing the change from day to night, it says that the sun runs on to a resting place for it (a few translations use instead, "appointed term", though in nearly all other verses where we find قرر as a participle they translate it as a place of settlement or an abode or resting place. There are also sahih hadith that mention the sun's daily cycle using the same Arabic word as in verse 36:38 to mean a resting place {{Muslim|1|297}} (for the Arabic of this hadith, see [http://sunnah.com/muslim/1/306 here]).

The alternative view was that it refers to the sun's final resting on the last day. There are other verses (35:13, 31:29, 39:5, 13:2) that mention the sun and moon floating/swimming (with the same verb as is translated "run" in 36:38) for a term appointed (لِأَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّى which does have that meaning - مُسْتَقَرٍّ in 36:38 is a different word). Another version of the above mentioned hadith (e.g. {{Bukhari|9|93|520}} - for the Arabic see [http://sunnah.com/bukhari/97/52 here]) probably supports this view, with a different ending indicating that the مُسْتَقَرٍّ (resting place) in 36:38 refers to the end of the world when the sun is asked to rise from its setting place (مِنْ مَغْرِبِهَا). Whichever interpretation was intended, the sun's movement is nevertheless mentioned right after describing day and night, just as the next verse mentions the different mansions appointed for the moon each night. The whole passage is about day and night and the sun and moon's movement in that context.

{{Quote|{{Quran|36|40}}|
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit. }}

Some apologists try to explain away the Qur'anic description of the sun moving in an orbit as a reference to our sun orbiting the black hole at the center of the milky way galaxy every 225 million years. This is an [[w:Ad hoc hypothesis|Ad hoc hypothesis]], of no relevance to human time scales, and nothing from the text implies that the sun is orbiting anything other than the earth. If the author had knowledge of the sun orbiting a black hole then it is conspicuous that he never mentions it explicitly nor in any way differentiates the sun's orbit from that of the moon.

In the Qur'an, the moon and the sun orbit the earth together. There is no distinction made between the moon, which actually revolves around the earth, and the sun which only appears to revolve around the earth when in fact the suns movement through the sky is a product of the rotation of the earth around its axis.

{{Quote|{{cite quran|91|1|end=2|style=ref}}}|
By the Sun and his (glorious) splendour; By the Moon as she follows him; }}
The Arabic word translated "follow" is used many other places to mean recite, but is primarily defined as to follow, go or walk behind, follow in way of immitation, of action etc. and is often used for animals like camels following behind each other.

{{Quote|{{Quran|21|33}}|And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|31|29}}|Hast thou not seen how Allah causeth the night to pass into the day and causeth the day to pass into the night, and hath subdued the sun and the moon (to do their work), each running unto an appointed term; and that Allah is Informed of what ye do?}}

Notice also that the path of the sun is something that the author expects people to have seen (another problem for the galactic orbit interpretation).

===Setting and Rising Place of the Sun===
{{Main|Dhul-Qarnayn and the Sun Setting in a Muddy Spring}}

The Qur'an assumes a flat earth which has physical places into which the sun sets and rises from. Since the earth is a rotating sphere, the sun does not set in any particular place and you can never travel to "the spot" where the sun sets nor a place where it rises; the sun appears to set or rise on the horizon no matter where you are on the planet. In these verses, the author propagates a popular legend from the 7th century of a man named Dhu'l-Qarnayn who visits the places where the sun sets and rises; here he finds the sun going down into a muddy spring and later rising on a tribe with no coverings.

{{Quote|{{Quran|18|86}}|
Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|18|90}}|
Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom. }}

Some Muslim Apologists have come up with creative interpretations of these verses to say that Dhu'l-Qrnayn only traveled until he reached "the west" or to a spot "at the time" when the sun set and not the "place" where the sun set. Unfortunately, these alternative interpretations are severely undermined by the [[Dhul-Qarnayn_and_the_Sun_Setting_in_a_Muddy_Spring_-_Part_One#First_interpretation:_He_reached_the_west_and_east|context and Arabic words]] used in these verses, which instead point to a physical location. Again, we must ask why an all-knowing being would use such misleading verses that mimic the misconceptions and legends prevalent at the time if one of these alternative explanations is correct.

===Stars are Missiles Shot at Devils===
{{Main|Mistranslations of Quran 67-5|l1=Mistranslations of Qur'an 67:5}}

The author of the Qur'an does not seem to know the difference between stars (giant balls of gas thousands of times larger than the earth) and meteorites which are small rocky masses of debris which brighten up after entering the earth's atmosphere. Many ancient people confused the two, as meteorites look like stars that are streaking across the sky; this is why there were often called [[w:Meteoroid|shooting stars]] or falling stars. In the following verse, the Qur'an claims that Allah uses stars as missiles to ward away devils. This repeats a common Arab myth at the time the Qur'an was first recited.

{{Quote|{{Quran|67|5}}|
And verily We have beautified the world's heaven with stars/lamps, and We have made them missiles for the devils, and for them We have prepared the doom of flame. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|37|10}}|
Except such as snatch away something by stealth, and they are pursued by a flaming fire, of piercing brightness.}}

===Moon Emits Light===

The moon does not emit its own light but simply reflects light coming from the Sun. The Arabic word for reflected (in`ikaas) does not appear in this Qur'anic verse that says the Moon is a "light". It instead uses the word "Noor" which is used to denote an entity that emits light.

{{Quote|{{Quran|71|16}}|
And hath made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp?}}

The word "Noor" is also used in this verse to show that Allah is the "light" of the universe. Clearly the author is not implying that Allah reflects light from another source but is the source of the light.

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|35}}|
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed in Glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed Tree, an Olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light: Allah doth set forth Parables for men: and Allah doth know all things.}}

===Moon was Split in Two===
{{Main|Moon Split Miracle}}

The Qur'an and Hadith claim that the moon was miraculously split into two pieces and then, presumably, put back together again. There is absolutely no scientific evidence whatsoever that the moon has ever been split into two. Since the moon is visible to half the planet at any given time, we should expect to see numerous accounts from different parts of the world attesting to this event if it actually happened. The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, Chinese and Indians had avid astronomers who should have seen this event and recorded it in their histories. The absence of historical record from other civilizations, contemporary to Muhammad, is a strong indication that this event never happened.

{{Quote|{{Quran|54|1-3}}|The hour drew nigh and the moon did rend asunder. }}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|56|831}}|Narrated Anas: "That the Meccan people requested Allah's Apostle to show them a miracle, and so he showed them the splitting of the moon."}}

=== Sun, Moon and Stars Created for Humans===
The sun, moon and stars are much older than humans. But the Qur'an states their created purpose is for timekeeping and navigation.

{{Quote|{{Quran|10|5}}|It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light (of beauty), and measured out stages for her; that ye might know the number of years and the count (of time).}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|189}}|They ask thee concerning the New Moons. Say: They are but signs to mark fixed periods of time in (the affairs of) men, and for Pilgrimage.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|96}}|He it is that cleaveth the day-break (from the dark): He makes the night for rest and tranquillity, and the sun and moon for the reckoning (of time): Such is the judgment and ordering of (Him), the Exalted in Power, the Omniscient. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|97}}|It is He Who maketh the stars (as beacons) for you, that ye may guide yourselves, with their help, through the dark spaces of land and sea: We detail Our signs for people who know. }}

=== Night is a Veil ===
Night is just the darkness of space as seen from the earth due its rotation.

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|54}}| Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: }}

===Seven Planets in the Universe===
{{Main|Cosmology of the Quran|l1=Cosmology of the Qur'an}}

This verse claims there are seven planets. However, according to astronomers, there are eight ordinary planets and five dwarf planets, which leaves the grand total at thirteen in our solar system. Modern astronomy also has found hundreds of other planets in other solar systems and Cosmologists estimate that hundreds of billions of stars and planets exist in the universe. The author of the Qur'an singling out such a small number of celestial objects only reaffirms his ignorance of the makeup of the universe.

{{Quote|{{Quran|65|12}}|
Allah is He Who created seven Firmaments and of the earth a '''similar number'''. Through the midst of them (all) descends His Command: that ye may know that Allah has power over all things, and that Allah comprehends, all things in (His) Knowledge. }}

A Tafsir (interpretation of the Qur'an) attributed to Ibn Abbas, but by an unknown author and date, says that Allah means that all 7 planets are flat planets.

{{Quote|Tafsir Ibn-Abass | Allah is He who created 7 heavens one above the other like a dome, and of the Earths, the like thereof, 7 planets but '''they are flat'''}}

A hadith suggests that these are seven earths stacked above each other.
{{Quote|{{Bukhari|3|43|634}}| The Prophet said, "Whoever takes a piece of the land of others unjustly, he will sink down the seven earths on the Day of Resurrection.}}

===Seven Heavens===
{{Main|Cosmology of the Quran|l1=Cosmology of the Qur'an}}

The universe consists of hundreds of billions of galaxies, each with hundreds of billions of stars. There is no such thing as seven layers to the universe. This myth of seven heavens was a common idea prevalent in the Middle East during the time when the Qur'an was first recited.

{{Quote|{{Quran|71|15}}|
See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another}}

There are only 5 not 7 principal layers to the [[W:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth's atmosphere]], and likewise only 5 not 7 major layers to the Earth itself.

{{Quote|{{Quran|65|12}}|Allah is He Who created seven heavens, and of the earth the like of them; the decree continues to descend among them, that you may know that Allah has power over all things and that Allah indeed encompasses all things in (His) knowledge.}}

===Stars are Located in the Nearest Heaven===

Stars are spread throughout the Universe and there is no such thing as the "nearest" heaven or layer. Also, this verse is in keeping with the author's claim (Quran 71:15 as described above) that the seven heavens are arranged one above the other.

{{Quote|{{Quran|37|6}}| Surely We have adorned the nearest heaven with an adornment, the stars}}

===Earth Created in Six Days===
{{Main|Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Creation}}

The earth first formed around 9 billion years after the Big Bang. The Qur'an, however, repeats the prevailing middle eastern myth that the earth and universe were formed in six days.

{{Quote|{{Quran|50|38}}|
We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us}}

Muslim apologists try and rescue the Qur'an by pointing to an alternative meaning of the Arabic word 'yawm' which typically means 'day' but can sometimes mean 'time period'. However the predominant meaning of the word is day and when a specific number is used, in this case six, the word almost always means a literal 24-hour day. Again, nothing in the context of the verses, nor the Qur'an in general, suggests the universe or earth were formed over long time periods. Secondly, neither the universe nor earth were formed in six long periods of time. It would have been trivial for an all-knowing diety to simply state that the universe was first formed over [[w:Age of the universe|13.8 billion years ago]]. However, this information is conspicuously missing.

===Earth Created before Stars===

The author of the Qur'an is also unaware that the [[w:Abundance of elements in Earth's crust|elements in the Earth's crust]] and core were first formed in stars. Modern science has proposed that all the elements that make up the earth (Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon, Iron, etc.) was originally formed by [[w:Nucleosynthesis|nucleosynthesis]] in stars and then expelled into the universe when those stars [[w:Supernova|supernova]]. Yet the Qur'an describes the earth being formed before the stars and from "smoke" or material that pre-dates stars. All rocky and gaseous planets in the universe were formed in a similar manner to the earth and the Qur'an singling out the earth only further highlights the authors ignorance of the history of the formation of celestial objects.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|29}}|
He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth. Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. And He is knower of all things. }}

====Earth and Heavens were Ripped Apart====

Some apologists claim that the following verse is compatible with the [[w:Big Bang|Big Bang]] theory. But according to this theory, the Universe was formed about 13.8 billion years ago due to a [[w:Chronology of the universe|rapid expansion]] from singularity. The earth was formed 4.54 billion years ago from [[w:History of the Earth|accretion]] of debris that surrounded the precursor of the Sun. There was no "separation" of the "joined" earth and heavens as this verse suggests. It is, in fact, a repetition of [[w:World egg|cosmic egg]] myths in which an egg-like structure was split into two halves, the lower half forming the earth and the upper half forming the heaven.

{{Quote|{{Quran|21|30}}|
Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? }}

====Universe was Made from Smoke by Contraction====
{{main|Quran and a Universe from Smoke}}

Neither was there any stage of formation of the Universe that involved smoke (carbon particles suspended as a result of combustion) nor did the earth and heavens "come" together at any point of time. Earth is a part of this Universe and has developed within it.

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|41|11|12}}|
Then turned He to the heaven when it was smoke, and said unto it and unto the earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come, obedient. Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days and inspired in each heaven its mandate; and We decked the nether heaven with lamps, and rendered it inviolable. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Knower. }}

The next verse clearly says that stars were created after the seven heavens which took two days to create, and after the earth which was created even earlier.

===The Cause of Shadows===
Shadows are produced when the sun's light is blocked by an obstacle. It is the Earth's rotation that causes these shadows to change size and location. However, by calling the sun the guide of shadows, this verse claims shadows are caused due to the sun's movement. A non-living "guide" can have two meanings: a controller of movement or an indicator. Other translations of this verse do call the sun an indicator but this is also unscientific because the sun cannot ''indicate'' them.

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|45-46}}|
Hast thou not turned thy vision to thy Lord?- How He doth prolong the shadow! If He willed, He could make it stationary! then do We make the sun its guide; Then We draw it in towards Ourselves,- a contraction by easy stages.}}

Further, this verse suggests that shadows can be made stationary i.e. the rotation of the earth can be stopped. This is not possible. Then the next verse says that shadows are drawn towards Allah which has no scientific meaning.

===Sun is a Flat Disk===

This verse suggests that the Sun is flat and can be folded up. The Sun appears as a flat disc from the perspective of a person on earth, but the [[w:Sun|sun]] is in fact a near-perfect sphere (oblate spheroid). The verse implies the authors ignorance of this fact.

{{Quote|{{Quran|81|1}}|
When the sun (with its spacious light) is folded up}}

===The similar size and distance of the sun and moon===
{{Main|Geocentrism and the Quran|l1=Geocentrism and the Qur'an}}

The Qur'an has statements about the end of the world that are much as one would expect if the author believed the sun and moon to be of similar size and a similar distance from Earth.

{{Quote|{{cite quran|75|8|end=9|style=ref}}|And the moon darkens And the sun and the moon are joined,}}

The word translated "are joined" is Arabic jumi'a, a verb which means to collect together, gather together, bring together. Given that this would actually require the moon to travel 98 million miles away from Earth and into the sun, which dwarfs it by over 600 times in diameter, it seems vastly less fitting as an apocalyptic event than if the ancient conception of the cosmos was correct.

===Sky is a Tent/Dome===

A common myth at the time of the Quran's composition was that the sky or heavens were held up with pillars. Many Bedouin people living in Arabia imagined the sky as a large tent covering, similar to the tents they used. The author repeats this myth by describing the sky as being "raised" above the earth.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|22}}|
It is He Who made the Earth a couch for you, and the sky a dome.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|13|2}}|
Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see}}

In another verse, the author says that the sky has a covering.

{{Quote|{{Quran|81|11}}|
And when the heaven has its covering removed,}}

===Sky Guards the Earth===

Asteroids and meteorites have penetrated the atmosphere and hit the earth throughout the course of history. This includes the [[w:Chicxulub crater|massive meteorite]] that hit near the [[w:Yucatán Peninsula|Yucatán Peninsula]] 65 million years which killed off numerous species including most dinosaurs. There is no guardian, whatsoever, that prevents these types of events form happening.

{{Quote|{{Quran|21|32}}|
And We have made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things (point to)}}

===Sky can Fall Down on People===

The Qur'an author thought that the sky is like a ceiling that can fall on someone while the earth can swallow someone too. This is obviously impossible as the earth's atmosphere is simply made of gas.

{{Quote|{{Quran|34|9}}|See they not what is before them and behind them, of the sky and the earth? If We wished, We could cause the earth to swallow them up, or cause a piece of the sky to fall upon them. Verily in this is a Sign for every devotee that turns to Allah (in repentance).}}

===Sky can be Rolled Up===

This is another verse implying that the sky or heaven is something solid.
{{Quote|{{Quran|21|104}}|The Day when We shall roll up the heavens as a recorder rolleth up a written scroll. }}

===Ignorance of the North and South Poles===
{{Main|The Ramadan Pole Paradox}}

In polar regions, the longevity of day and night vary during summer and winter. The day gets shorter and shorter in winter until there are days or weeks of uninterrupted night. At the poles themselves, day and night alternately last for six months and all phases of the moon occur several times between sunrise and sunset. The author of the Qur'an did not know about this and he only repeated earlier geocentric ideas.

{{Quote|{{Quran|36|40}}|
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit. }}

Furthermore, when reading this verse one should wonder in what sense day and night each have an orbit. This does, however, seem to fit with another verse (see above [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#Night_is_a_Veil Night is a Veil]).

==Biology==

===Evolution===

The Qur'an presupposes a [[creation|creationist]] view of life on earth. Its understanding of the history of human life is incompatible with the overwhelming scientific evidence that humans have evolved from prior life forms, over the course of millions of years, through natural selection [http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence]. While some Muslims accept the theory of evolution, most reject it in favor of a creationist world view. [[Muslim Statistics - Science#Evolution|Opinion polls]] show that the majority of Muslims agree Islam and evolution are not compatible.

====Human Creation from Clay====
{{Main|Creation of Humans from Clay}}

The Qur’an state that humans were created instantaneously from mud or clay. There is no indication that the author is aware of the evolution of human life over millions of years nor our common ancestry with apes and primates.

{{Quote|{{Quran|15|26}}|
We created man from sounding clay, from mud molded into shape; }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|117}}|
To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter, He saith to it: "Be," and it is. }}

====First Humans: Adam and Eve====
{{Main|Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Creation}}

The Qur’an and Hadith contains stories concerning the 'first humans' and how all people are descended from these two earliest ancestors. It states that humans were created in a garden (paradise) and then brought to earth fully formed. This view of the origins of human life is clearly contradicted by the numerous fossils of pre-homosapien species that lived on earth for millions of years before modern humans first evolved.[http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence]

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|189}}|
"He it is Who created you from a single being, and of the same (kind) did He make his mate," }}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|55|548}}| Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah 's Apostle said, "Treat women nicely, for '''a women is created from a rib''', and the most curved portion of the rib is its upper portion, so, if you should try to straighten it, it will break, but if you leave it as it is, it will remain crooked. So treat women nicely." }}

Some Muslim apologists will claim the view of two ancestral “parents” is consistent with recent scientific findings that show a common female and male ancestor of all modern humans. They often exploit the confusion caused by scientists referring to these genetic ancestors as [[W:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]] and [[W:Y-chromosomal Adam|Y-chromosomal Adam]]. These two individuals bear little resemblance to the Quranic account as they are simply the last common male and female ancestors of everyone alive today, not of all humans in history. The Qur'an clearly states Eve was created later than Adam, however [[W:Mitochondrial Eve|Mitochondrial Eve]] lived some 50,000 to 80,000 years earlier than [[W:Y-chromosomal Adam|Y-chromosomal Adam]].[http://biologos.org/blog/does-genetics-point-to-a-single-primal-couple] Genetic evidence overwhelmingly indicates that humans diverged from earlier species as a population, not a single couple. [http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/how-big-was-the-human-population-bottleneck-not-anything-close-to-2/].

====Humans Created in Paradise and then Brought to Earth====
{{Main|Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Creation}}

The author of the Qur'an explicitly states that humans were first created outside of the earth and then only later sent down to live on the planet after being expelled from paradise. We have no evidence that humans ever lived in a terrestrial or extra-terrestrial paradise. In fact, all evidence points to primitive humanoids living in caves for tens of thousands of years before settling into more permanent dwellings. [http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/plaintexthistories.asp?historyid=ab27]

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|36}}|
"Then did Satan make them slip from the (garden), and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been. We said: 'Get ye down, all (ye people), with enmity between yourselves. On '''earth will be your dwelling-place''' and your means of livelihood - for a time.' }}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|4|1856}}| Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The best day on which the sun has risen is''' Friday; on it Adam was created''', on it he was made to enter Paradise, on it he. was expelled from it.}}

===Embryology===
{{Main|Embryology in the Quran|l1=Embryology in the Qur'an}}

The Qur'an and Hadith contain statements about bodily fluids and the stages of development of the human embryo. Many of these descriptions are vague and unscientific. Most bare a striking resemblance to [[Greek and Jewish Ideas about Reproduction in the Quran and Hadith|similar descriptions]] found in the [[w:Talmud|Jewish Talmud]] and the ideas of ancient Greeks [[History of Embryology|such as Galen]], including their errors.

====Sperm Originates Between the Backbone and Ribs====
{{Main|Quran and Semen Production|l1=Qur'an and Semen Production}}

The Qur'an states, incorrectly, that semen originates from a spot between the backbone and ribs. Today we know sperm comes from the [[w:testicle|testicles]] and semen from the pelvic region, which is not between the spine and ribs.

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|86|6|7}}|
He is created from a drop emitted- Proceeding from '''between the backbone and the ribs''' }}

====Embryo is Formed from Male and Female Fluids====
{{Main|Greek and Jewish Ideas about Reproduction in the Quran and Hadith}}

The author of the Qur'an describes the formation of a human embryo from fluids emanating from the man (and possibly also of the woman). This reflects the contemporary, but incorrect, view that the embryo is initially formed out of semen stored in the womb. In fact, semen is the vehicle for the sperm cells, one of which fuses with a woman's [[w:ovum|ovum]] in her [[w:fallopian tube|fallopian tube]], and the resulting cell divides and travels back into the womb for implantation. While English translations mention a "drop of seed", or "drop of sperm", the Arabic word in question literally means a small amount of liquid, a euphemism for semen.

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|77|20|22}}|
Did We not create you from a '''liquid disdained'''? And We placed it in a firm lodging For a known extent.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|80|18|19}}|
From what thing doth He create him? From a '''drop of seed'''. He createth him and proportioneth him}}

{{Quote|{{Quran-wi|76|2}}|Verily We created Man from '''a drop of mingled sperm''' [nutfatin amshajin], in order to try him: So We gave him (the gifts), of Hearing and Sight.}}

====No Mention of Female Ovum====

The Qur'an's author did not mention the role of the ovum in human reproduction and appears to have no knowledge of it. This verse fails to mention the important role of the female egg, or ovum, plays in the reproduction of humankind. It implies that reproduction is caused simply by the male semen. The human ovum is very small, though visible to the human eye, and it's purpose wasn't understood in the 7th century. Again, we are left wondering why an all-knowing deity would omit such information.

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|45}}|He is created from a drop emitted}}

====Humans Created from a Clot of Blood====
{{Main|Embryology in Islamic Scripture}}

The Qur'an and Hadith depict that humans are formed from a clot of blood. There was never a stage in embryonic development where humans are formed into a clot of blood. This description is likely influenced by an unscientific and primitive understanding of human reproduction based on observations from an early-term miscarriage and a woman's menstrual cycle.

{{Quote|{{Quran|96|2}}|
Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood: }}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|54|430}}|Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mus'ud:

“Allah's Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, "(The matter of the Creation of) a human being is put together in the womb of the mother in forty days, and then he becomes a '''clot of thick blood for a similar period''', and then a piece of flesh for a similar period.”}}

===All Organisms are Created in Pairs===
{{Main|Quranic Claim of Everything Created in Pairs|l1=Qur'anic Claim of Everything Created in Pairs}}

Not every creature procreates or reproduces through male and female sexual relationship. The [[w:Desert grassland whiptail lizard|whiptail lizard]] in the U.S. Southwest, Mexico, and South America, is an all-females species which reproduces by [[w:parthenogenesis|parthenogenesis]]. [[w:virus|Viruses]] reproduce using a host's DNA and are neither female nor male. [[w:Bacteria|Bacteria]] reproduce by cell division. [[w:Fungus|Fungus]] can reproduce either sexually or asexually. Many species of plants also reproduce either asexually or through [[w:Pollination|pollination]].

{{Quote|{{Quran|51|49}}|
And of '''every thing''' We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction. }}

===Womb has Three Layers===
{{Main|Greek and Jewish Ideas about Reproduction in the Quran and Hadith|l1=Greek and Jewish Ideas about Reproduction in the Qur'an and Hadith}}

The word [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume1/00000257.pdf butun] (بطن) means belly/abdomen/midriff, though some translators like to use the more specific word "womb". There are many more layers in the human body such as the endometrium, myometrium, perimetrium, peritoneum, besides the cervix uteri, corpus uteri, abdomen (with walls), and placenta (with layers). The idea of three membranes around the fetus (chorion, allantois, and amnion) was taught by the highly influential Greek physician, Galen. It is likely that the Quranic author is simply repeating this erroneous idea.

{{Quote|{{Quran|39|6}}|
He created you (all) from a single person: then created, of like nature, his mate; and he sent down for you eight head of cattle in pairs: He makes you, in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in '''three veils of darkness'''. such is Allah, your Lord and Cherisher: to Him belongs (all) dominion. There is no god but He: then how are ye turned away (from your true Centre)? }}

===Bones are Formed before Flesh===
{{Main|Embryology in the Quran|l1=Embryology in the Qur'an}}

The Qur'an explains that the bones of a human embryo are formed first and then covered up with flesh. Modern scientific studies and research have shown that the bones and muscles of a developing fetus are formed simultaneously.

{{Quote|{{Quran|23|14}}|
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones then (not and) clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create! }}

===Source and Purity of Milk===
{{Main|Qur'an and Milk}}

The Qur'an states that milk is produced, in the body, somewhere between excretions and blood. The mammary glands, where milk is produced and stored, are nowhere near the intestines which is where excrement is stored. Many kinds of cattle and goat milk needs processing or pasteurization before they can safely be consumed; the milk is often infected with bacteria and other micro-organisms. A significant number of humans are [[Qur'an and Milk|lactose intolerant]] and unable to digest milk without experiencing abdominal bloating and cramps, flatulence, diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. This makes the Qur'anic claim that milk is 'pure' and 'agreeable' to those who drink it dubious.

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|66}}|
And verily in cattle (too) will ye find an instructive sign. From what is within their bodies '''between excretions and blood''', We produce, for your drink, milk, '''pure and agreeable''' to those who drink it. }}

===Corn has Seven Ears, Each with a Hundred Grains===

A corn plant generally has only one or two ears and an ear has up to 600 grains.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|261}}|
The parable of those who spend their substance in the way of Allah is that of a grain of corn: it groweth seven ears, and each ear Hath a hundred grains. }}

==Geology and Meteorology==

===The Earth is Flat===
{{Main|Flat Earth and the Quran|l1=Flat Earth and the Qur'an}}

====Facing Toward Mecca====

The Qur'an tells all Muslims to face in the direction of Mecca when they pray. However, this would only be possible on a flat Earth because it is not possible to bow down towards the direction of Mecca when you are on the opposite side of the earth. The author here presupposes a small world, local to Arabia, that is flat. Only in that world view can people everywhere face Mecca.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|149}}|
From whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; that is indeed the truth from the Lord. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.}}

====Earth is Spread Out and Flat====

The author of the Qur'an mentions to his audience that the earth is 'spread out' and layed flat like a carpet spread on the ground.

{{Quote|{{Quran|88|20}}|And at the Earth, how it is spread out?}}

The Qur'anic commentator al-Jalalayn in his Tasfir agrees with this understanding of the verse saying that most scholars at his time agree that the earth is flat and not spherical.

{{Quote|Tafsir al-Jalalayn |And the earth, how it was laid out flat?, and thus infer from this the power of God, exalted be He, and His Oneness? The commencing with the [mention of] camels is because they are closer in contact with it [the earth] than any other [animal]. As for His words sutihat, 'laid out flat', this on a literal reading suggests '''that the earth is flat, which is the opinion of most of the scholars''' of the [revealed] Law, and '''not a sphere as astronomers (ahl al-hay'a) have it''', even if this [latter] does not contradict any of the pillars of the Law.}}

====Earth is Like a Couch====

The earth is described as a couch, flat and laid out for people to lay upon.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|22}}|
Who has made the earth your couch, and the heavens your dome; and sent down rain from the heavens; and brought forth therewith Fruits for your sustenance; then set not up rivals unto Allah when ye know (the truth). }}

Ibn-Kathir in his Tafsir agrees with this interpretation that the earth is flat and comfortable like a bed.

{{Quote|Ibn-Kathir |who has made the earth as flat and comfortable as a bed and placed upon it mountains standing firm... (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Part 1) }}

====Earth is Like a Carpet====

The earth is described like a carpet, completely flat and spread out on the ground and not rolled up for storage.

{{Quote|{{Quran|20|53}}|
He Who has, made for you '''the earth like a carpet spread out'''; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|43|10}}|
He Who has, made for you '''the earth like a carpet spread out'''; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others. }}

====Earth is a Wide Plain====

The author of the Qur'an sees the earth as a wide plain or expanse. This is often likened to a flat bed, as some translators put it. Again, the author seems unaware of the curvature of the earth or the fact that it is a sphere.

{{Quote|{{Quran|78|6}}|Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, }}

====Earth is Level====

The Qur'an describes a time in the future when mountains will be removed leaving the earth smooth and level. This description assumes the earth is already flat and level with only the mountains giving it shape. The author here appears to have no knowledge that the earth is curved and not level.

{{Quote|{{Quran|18|47}}|One Day We shall remove the mountains, and thou wilt see '''the earth as a level stretch''', and We shall gather them, all together, nor shall We leave out any one of them.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|20|105}}|They ask thee concerning the Mountains: say "My Lord will uproot them and scatter them as dust; He will '''leave them as plains smooth and level'''; Nothing crooked or curved wilt thou see in their place}}

===Earth has Seven Atmospheric Layers===
{{Main|Science and the Seven Earths}}

Some apologists believe the Qur'an describes the layers of the earth's atmosphere when it refers to the firmament and it's likeness on earth. However, scientists have determined that there are [[w:Atmosphere_of_Earth#Structure_of_the_atmosphere|five principal layers]] in the atmosphere and not seven.

{{Quote|{{Quran|65|12}}|
Allah is He Who Created '''seven''' firmaments and '''of the earth a similar number'''. Through the midst of them (all) descends His command: that ye may know that Allah has power over all things, and that Allah comprehends all things In (His) Knowledge.)" }}

===The Earth does not Rotate===

The author of the Qur'an repeats a common view of the 7th century that the earth was a fixed and un-moving object with the stars, sun, and moon revolving around it. The author appears to be unaware that the earth is rotating around its axis and moving through space around the sun.

{{Quote|{{Quran|27|61}}|
Is not He (better than your gods) Who has made the earth as '''a fixed abode''', and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water). Is there any ilah (god) with Allah? Nay, but most of them know not.}}

{{Quote|1=[http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2232&Itemid=83 The Command to praise Allah and send Blessings on His Messengers] Tafsir Ibn Kathir|2=(Is not He Who has made the earth as a fixed abode,) meaning, '''stable and stationary, so that it does not move or convulse''', because if it were to do so, it would not be a good place for people to live on. But by His grace and mercy, He has made it smooth and calm, and it is not shaken or moved}}

===Permanent Barrier between Fresh and Salt Water===
{{Main|Meeting of Fresh and Salt Water in the Quran}}

When a fresh water river flows into the sea or ocean, there is a transition region in between. This transition region is called an [[w:estuary|estuary]] where the fresh water remains temporarily separated from the salt water. However, this separation is not absolute (thus cannot be described as a "barrier"), is not permanent, and the different salinity levels between the two bodies of water eventually homogenize. The Qur'an however erroneously says that the seperation between the two types of water is absolute and permanent.

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|53}}| It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, '''a partition that is forbidden to be passed'''. }}

===Mountains Prevent Earthquakes===
{{Main|The Quran and Mountains|l1=The Qur'an and Mountains}}

Modern geology has discovered that large plates in the crust of the earth are responsible for the formation of mountains. Called [[w:Plate tectonics|Plate tectonic]] these massive plates meet and the pressure between them pushes up the crust forming mountains but also causing earthquakes and faults. the Qur'an propagates the idea that mountains are crucial in stabilizing the earth when, in fact, the earth would be much more stable and have less earthquakes if mountains did not exist.

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|15}}|
And He has set up on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and rivers and roads; that ye may guide yourselves}}

===Mountains Cast into the Earth===

Mountains are usually formed through the movement of lithosphere plates. They were not thrown down into the earth.

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|15}}|
And He hath cast into the earth firm hills that it quake not with you, and streams and roads that ye may find a way }}

===Chest Contracts with Altitude===
{{Main|Quran Describes Altitude Sickness|l1=Qur'an Describes Altitude Sickness}}

This verse says that your chest cavity gets smaller with higher altitude when in reality the opposite is true.

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|125}}|Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe.}}

===Earthquakes are a Punishment from God===
{{Main|Accidents and Natural Disasters in the Muslim World}}

Some of the highest death tolls from natural disasters in the last decade were in Muslim countries. In fact, natural disasters do not differentiate between Muslim or non-Muslim nations nor are they controlled by a divine being. Earth quakes are extremely common along tectonic fault lines and are not a punishment for human behavior but the byproduct of natural forces. The Qur'anic author perpetuates an unscientific understanding of his phenomena in there verses.

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|45}}|
Do then those who devise evil (plots) feel secure that Allah will not cause the earth to swallow them up, or that the Wrath will not seize them from directions they little perceive?}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|29|37}}|
But they denied him, and the dreadful earthquake took them, and morning found them prostrate in their dwelling place. }}

===Hurricanes and Blizzards are a Punishment from God===
{{Main|Accidents and Natural Disasters in the Muslim World}}

Two of the deadliest blizzards in history happened in Muslim countries. However, the Qur'an regards those natural disasters as violent punishment from God. Weather patterns follow predictable patterns and are not controlled by a divine being.

{{Quote|{{Quran|17|68}}|
Do ye then feel secure that He will not cause you to be swallowed up beneath the earth when ye are on land, or that He will not send against you a violent tornado (with showers of stones) so that ye shall find no one to carry out your affairs for you}}

===Rainwater is Pure===

The Qur'an says rainwater is pure, though in some industrial areas rainwater can contain significant amounts of pollution and acidity. Called [[w:Acid Rain|acid rain]] this type of rain causes harmful effects on plants, aquatic animals and buildings.

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|48}}|
And He it is Who sends the winds as good news before His mercy; and We send down pure water from the cloud, }}

===No Evaporation in Water Cycle===
{{Main|Responses_to_Zakir_Naik#Water_Cycle_in_the_Qur.27an|l1=Water Cycle in the Qur'an}}

Every verse about rain in the Qur'an implies that rain comes either directly from the sky or from Allah. However evaporation of water into the air is conspicuously never mentioned.

{{Quote|{{Quran|43|11}}|
That sends down (from time to time) rain from the sky in due measure;- and We raise to life therewith a land that is dead; even so will ye be raised (from the dead)}}

===Hail Comes from Mountains in the Sky===

Hail forms in cumulonimbus clouds when super-cooled water droplets freeze. However, the Qur'an mistakenly ascribed the formation of hail to invisible mountains in the sky.

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|43}}|
Seest thou not that Allah makes the clouds move gently, then joins them together, then makes them into a heap? - then wilt thou see rain issue forth from their midst. And '''He sends down from the sky mountain masses (of clouds) wherein is hail'''. He strikes therewith whom He pleases and He turns it away from whom He pleases, the vivid flash of His lightning well-nigh blinds the sight. }}

===Thunder is an Angel===

The Qur'anic author was superstitious about thunder and imagined this natural phenomena as an angel.

{{Quote|{{Quran|13|13}}|
And the thunder declares His glory with His praise, and the angels too for awe of Him; and He sends the thunderbolts and smites with them whom He pleases, yet they dispute concerning Allah, and He is mighty in prowess.}}

Muslim sources, which explain this verse clearly, indicate that the author of the Qur'an believed that thunder was not an impersonal natural phenomenon, but an angel:

{{Quote|1=[http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=2&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=13&tAyahNo=13&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0 Tafsir Ibn-Abbas]|2=(The thunder hymneth His praise) by His command; '''it is an angel'''; it is also said: it is the voice of the sky (and (so do) the angels) and also the angels hymn His praise (for awe of Him) the angels have awe towards Allah. (He launcheth the thunder bolts) i.e. fire (and smiteth with them whom He will) He destroys by means of fire whoever He will, referring here to Zayd Ibn Qays whom Allah destroyed by fire, along with his friend ‘Amir Ibn al-Tufayl who was killed as a result of being stabbed in his waist (while they dispute (in doubt) concerning Allah) while they dispute with Muhammad (pbuh) concerning the Religion of Allah, (and He is mighty in wrath) His chastisement is severe }}

==Zoology==

===Bees Eat Fruit===

Bees feed on nectar and pollen. However, the Qur'an relates that bees consume fruit.

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|68-69}}|
And thy Lord taught the Bee to build its cells in hills, on trees, and in (men's) habitations; '''Then to eat of all the fruits (of the earth)''', and find with skill the spacious paths of its Lord: there issues from within their bodies a drink of varying colors, wherein is healing for men: verily in this is a Sign for those who give thought. }}

===Ants Recognize Humans and Speak with Each Other===

Ants typically communicate with each other using pheromone which are a chemical signal. While scientists have also discovered that ants make some noises, nothing has ever indicated that the brains of ants could produce such complex communication as is depicted in the Quranic story of Solomon and the ants. However, the Qur'an tells us that not only does an ant warn her fellow ants of the approach of a large army of humans, but it recognizes one of the humans as Solomon. Then, he also understands her speech. How an ant could even see that far or have known the identify of Solomon is never explained. This account of a talking ant is clearly a legend and not scientific.

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|27|18|19}}|
At length, when they came to a (lowly) valley of ants, '''one of the ants said: "O ye ants, get into your habitations, lest Solomon and his hosts crush you (under foot) without knowing it." So he smiled, amused at her speech;''' and he said: "O my Lord! so order me that I may be grateful for Thy favours, which thou hast bestowed on me and on my parents, and that I may work the righteousness that will please Thee: And admit me, by Thy Grace, to the ranks of Thy righteous Servants." }}

===Horses Created as Transportation===

It took thousands of years of domestication and cross-breeding before horses were domesticated approximately 4,000 years ago in East Europe and Central Asia. Prior to this, horses were wild animals though the Qur'an neglects to mention this important fact. Even today [[w:Feral horse|feral horses]] are descendants of once domesticated horses that aren't tamed or used for human transportation.

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|8}}|
And (He has created) horses, mules, and donkeys, for you to ride and use for show; and He has created (other) things of which ye have no knowledge.}}

===Bird Flight is a Miracle===

Today, engineers and scientists are well aware of the aerodynamic properties of a bird's wing. It functions by creating a difference in the air pressure between the lower and upper part of the wing and this creates lift that pushes the bird upward. The wings of birds evolved over millions of years to acquire this feature. The author of the Qur'an, however, is unaware of these scientific details and says that 'nothing' holds up the bird except the miraculous power of Allah.

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|79}}|
Do they not look at the birds, held poised in the midst of (the air and) the sky? Nothing holds them up but (the power of) Allah. Verily in this are signs for those who believe}}

===Classification of Creatures===

The Qur'an observes that creatures of the desert move using their bellies (snake) or two legs (human) or four legs (cows, goats, etc.). However, the author fails to include insects such as millipedes that have a thousand legs.

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|45}}|
And Allah has created '''every''' animal from water: of them there are some that creep on their bellies; some that walk on two legs; and some that walk on four. Allah creates what He wills for verily Allah has power over all things. }}

===Only Eight Types of Cattle===

While the Qur'an states that there are eight kinds of cattle, In fact there are more than a dozen kinds of cattle. The word "cattle" in 39:6 is [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000289.pdf al-ana'ami], meaning pasturing (i.e. grazing) animals. The word [http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000432.pdf azwajin] ("kinds" in the translation of 39:6 below) generally means mate or member of a pair. {{Quran|6|143-144}} clarifies that these refer to male and female pairs of sheep, goats, oxes and camels. This neglects other types of cattle from the regions outside of Arabia such as reindeer, which are important to people in northern latitudes.

{{Quote|{{Quran|39|6}}|
He created you from one being, then from that (being) He made its mate; and He hath provided for you of '''cattle eight kinds'''. He created you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation, in a threefold gloom. Such is Allah, your Lord. His is the Sovereignty. There is no Allah save Him. How then are ye turned away}}

===Birth Defects and Imperfections===

The author of the Qur'an states that there are no flaws in anything. The author fails to mention the numerous defects and imperfections in all species.

{{Quote|{{Quran|67|3}}|
Who hath created seven heavens in harmony. Thou (Muhammad) canst see no fault in the Beneficent One's creation; then look again: Canst thou see any flaw?}}

===Poisonous Sea Life is Edible===

A number of sea creatures are deadly and fatal to humans if consumed. This includes the [[w:puffer fish|puffer fish]], [[w:poison dart frog|poison dart frong]], marbled cone snail, [[w:blue ringed octopus|blue ringed octopus]] and [[w:stonefish|stonefish]]. The Qur'an, however, makes no prohibition against eating these types of animals even though it goes into lengthy detail forbidding the consumption of pigs, which are safe for humans to eat.

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|96}}|
Lawful to you is the pursuit of water-game and its use for food,- for the benefit of yourselves and those who travel; but forbidden is the pursuit of land-game;- as long as ye are in the sacred precincts or in pilgrim garb. And fear Allah, to Whom ye shall be gathered back. }}

===Birds Fight Elephants===

Birds and elephants don't fight each other. In fact, African elephants and birds have a symbiotic relationship where the birds eat bugs and lice off of elephants [http://www.elephant-facts.co.uk/relationship-between-african-elephants-and-birds/]. The Qur'an here depicts a fanciful story of birds being directed to attack elephants and their riders during a battle.

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|105|1|3}}|
Sees thou not how Allah dealt with the companions of the elephants? Did He not make their plan into misguidance? And he sent against them flights of birds. }}

===Sinful Animals===

According to the Qur'an, all animals will be judged for their sins. This despite the fact that animals are not as self-aware as humans and operate almost exclusively on instinct.

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|38}}|
There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end. }}

==History==

===Wall of Iron between Two Mountains===
{{Main|Dhul-Qarnayn}}

The author of the Qur'an repeats the Syrian legend of Alexander the Great as a great king who helps a tribe of people build a massive wall of iron between two mountains. Even with satellites and near universal exploration of the world, no archaeologist has ever found even a trace of such a massive structure.

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|18|96|97}}|
"Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had '''filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides''', He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead." Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.
}}

===Christians Worship Mary as Part of the Trinity===

Christians have never worshiped Mary as part of the Trinity. The author of the Qur'an seems to be mistaken in his understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity and the theology of Christians throughout history.

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|116}}|
And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden}}

===Mary Confused with Miriam ===

Each of the following verses narrates the story of Jesus's birth. But Mary the mother of Jesus was born in the first century BCE and is not related to Moses and his family that existed 1500 years before. Miriam, not Mary, was the sister of Moses and Aaron and daughter of Amram (Imran).

{{Quote|{{Quran|19|27-28}}|At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! '''O sister of Aaron!''' Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!" }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|66|12}}|And '''Mary, the daughter of 'Imran''', who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit; }}

Hence the claim that Mary's mother is the wife of Imran is also false.
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|35-36}}| Behold! '''a woman of 'Imran''' said: "O my Lord! I do dedicate unto Thee what is in my womb for Thy special service: So accept this of me: For Thou hearest and knowest all things." When she was delivered, she said: "O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!"- and Allah knew best what she brought forth- "And no wise is the male Like the female. I have named her Mary, and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected." }}

===Coat of Mail was Invented during the Reign of David===

There is no evidence that Coats of mail existed during the time of David (10th century BCE). The earliest example of a coat of mail was Celtic.<ref>Rusu, M., "Das Keltische Fürstengrab von Ciumeşti in Rumänien", Germania 50, 1969, pp. 267–269</ref> Its invention is commonly credited to the Celts.<ref name="books.google.com">[http://books.google.com/books?id=HscIwvtkq2UC&pg=PA79&dq=laminar+armor&hl=en&ei=nOMGTqrNNfGv0AGWpbi6Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=laminar%20armor&f=true ''The ancient world'', Richard A. Gabriel, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2007 P.79]</ref>

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|34|10|11}}| And assuredly We gave David grace from Us, (saying): O ye hills and birds, echo his psalms of praise! And We made the iron supple unto him, Saying: Make thou long coats of mail and measure the links (thereof). And do ye right. Lo! I am Seer of what ye do. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|21|79|80}}| It was Our power that made the hills and the birds celebrate Our praises, with David: it was We Who did (all these things). It was We Who taught him the making of coats of mail for your benefit, to guard you from each other's violence: will ye then be grateful? }}

===Noah's Ark holds Every Species===

The legend of Noah and the Ark states that two of each kind of animal was placed on an ark. However, there are over a hundred thousand species of animals including penguins, polar bears, koala bears, and kangaroos that live spread across the entire planet and in different climates and requiring specialized diets. There is no way such an event could have occurred.

{{Quote|{{Quran|11|40}}|
At length, behold! there came Our command, and the fountains of the earth gushed forth! We said: "Embark therein, of each kind two, male and female, and your family - except those against whom the word has already gone forth,- and the Believers." but only a few believed with him. }}

===Pharaoh or Pharaohs===

Geographically, the Coptic land of Egypt was adjacent to Arabia. Thus, most Arabs were aware of the preservation method applied by the ancient Egyptian to their Pharaohs. There were so many Pharaohs ranging from numerous dynasties, many of them were preserved intact. But the Qur'an merely narrated one Pharaoh that was preserved.

{{Quote|{{Quran|10|92}}|
This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!" }}

===Jews call Ezra the Son of God===

Historically, Judaism has been a strict form of monotheism. But the author of the Qur'an accuses Jews of polytheism by stating that they call Uzair (Ezra) the son of God in the same way that Christians see Jesus as the son of God. The author of the Qur'an seems to be unaware of the different theological implications of these two terms between Judaism and Christianity.

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|30}}|
The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! }}

===Supernatural Destruction of Cities===

The Qur'an author thought that outside the vicinity of Arabia there were cities and tribes destroyed by Allah. He acquired this information through hearsay from Arabian folklore as well as other legends. Those cities and tribes probably were destroyed by natural disasters, famine, wars, migration or neglect.

{{Quote|{{Quran|40|82}}|
Do they not travel through the earth and see what was the End of those before them? They were more numerous than these and superior in strength and in the traces (they have left) in the land: Yet all that they accomplished was of no profit to them. }}

===Humans can Sleep for Three Hundred Years===

The oldest verified human life has been a little over 120 years. Humans cannot live without food and water for more than a few days. However, the Qur'an incorporated a myth from the 5th century legends of the [[Seven Sleepers of Ephesus in the Quran|Seven Sleepers of Ephesus]] who sleep in a cave for over 300 years and then miraculously awaken in perfect health. There is no historical evidence that this ever happened or could even been scientifically possible.

{{Quote|{{Quran|18|11}}|
Then We sealed up their hearing in the Cave for a number of years. }}

===Humans can Live for a Thousand Years===

The oldest verified human life has been a little over 120 years. Based on fossil records and testing on human remains, anthropologists have concluded that human life spans are increasing, not decreasing. Nevertheless, the Qur'an claims that Noah lived for almost 1,000 years.

{{Quote|{{Quran|29|14}}|
We (once) sent Noah to his people, and he tarried among them '''a thousand years less fifty''': but the Deluge overwhelmed them while they (persisted in) sin. }}

===Non-Existent Mosque in Jerusalem===

Muslims claim that Al-Aqsa mosque is mentioned in the Qur'an as the furthest mosque, even though there was obviously no mosque in Jerusalem during Muhammad's time.

{{Quote|{{Quran|17|1}}|
Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless,- in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things). }}

==Sociology==

===Fasting and Prayer Requirements at the Poles===
{{Main|The Ramadan Pole Paradox}}

The author of the Qur'an was apparently unfamiliar with the polar regions in which there are six months of sunlight and six months of perpetual night during winter and summer. The Qur'an claims that Muslims should fast from sunrise till sunset, however this is arguably not observable by anyone living in the polar regions.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|187}}|
...then complete your fast Till the night appears;...}}

A similar issue exists for the five daily prayers. Anyone living in the polar region would not be able to make a sunset or sunrise prayer all year round. Even for cities further south like Aberdeen in Scotland, the gap between the night prayer (Isha) and the dawn prayer (Fajr) is around 4 and a half hours in June, so anyone following these rules has to interupt their sleep around 3.20am, then go back to sleep before getting up for the day. Such issues would not have crossed the mind of a 7th century man in Arabia, who believed that everyone experiences sunrise and sunset when he does, and where it would be perfectly natural to arise at dawn any time of the year.

{{Quote|{{Quran|17|78}}|
Establish regular prayers - at the sun's decline till the darkness of the night, and the morning prayer and reading: for the prayer and reading in the morning carry their testimony.}}

===People are Protected in Mecca===
{{Main|Hajj}}

The Qur'an claims Allah has made Mecca and the Ka'aba a place of safety. However, historically it has been attacked and seen battles numerous times. Juhayman al-Otaybi, Abd-Allah ibn al-Zubayr, and Abu Tahir al-Janabi killed thousands of Muslim pilgrims in Mecca. Moreover, Yazid Bin Muawiya sent an army battalion to attack Mecca and desecrated the Ka'aba. The universal safety of people in Mecca has no historical evidence supporting it.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|125}}|
Remember We made the House a place of assembly for men and '''a place of safety'''; and take ye the station of Abraham as a place of prayer; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma'il, that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer). }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|97}}|
Allah made '''the Ka'ba, the Sacred House, an asylum of security for men''', as also the Sacred Months, the animals for offerings, and the garlands that mark them: That ye may know that Allah hath knowledge of what is in the heavens and on earth and that Allah is well acquainted with all things. }}

===All Animals Live in Communities===

Some animals such as the jaguar, leopard, and panda are well known for being solitary creatures, rarely meeting in pairs and only to mate. They do not live in communities and routinely fight each other over territory.

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|38}}|
There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, '''but (forms part of) communities like you'''. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end. }}

===Requirement to Learn in Arabic===

There are over 5,000 languages and dialects in the world, with less than 4% of the world's population being native Arabic speakers. However, it is incumbent upon Muslims to pray in Arabic, recite the Qur'an in Arabic, and understand commentaries and the traditions of Muhammad in Arabic. We are left wondering why an all-knowing being would not provide a more efficient way to send his message to all people on earth and why he does not account for the immense diversity of languages.

{{Quote|{{Quran|43|3}}|
We have made it a Qur'an in Arabic, that ye may be able to understand (and learn wisdom). }}

===Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb, and Blind===
{{Main|Golden Age}}

The Qur'an calls non-believers "deaf dumb and blind". However all the technology, medicine, and scientific advancements in the Muslim world are almost exclusively purchased from the non-Muslim countries. Computers, television, space travel, helicopters, media players, nuclear bombs, cameras, satellites, birth control pills, vaccinations, telephones, radios, light bulbs, microchips, games consoles, refrigerators, microwaves, plastic, aluminium, x-rays, antibiotics, heart-transplants, the internet etc., were all invented by non-Muslims.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|18}}|
Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path)}}

==Myths and Legendary Tales==

===Humans Transformed into Apes===

The Qur'an records a miraculous event where Sabbath breakers are transformed into apes. This account seems to be a mere legend and has no basis in scientific fact.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|65}}|
And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected." }}

=== Golden Calf Statue Moos ===

A statue of a calf was cast out of ornaments but it could moo.
{{Quote|{{Quran|20|88}}|So he brought forth for them a calf, a (mere) body, which had a mooing sound, so they said: This is your god and the god of Musa, but he forgot.}}

===Tribe Trapped Behind a Wall===
{{Main|Dhul-Qarnayn}}

The story of Dhul-Qarnayn says that a tribe is trapped behind a massive wall of Iron. According to the Qur'an, these two beast tribes concealed themselves behind this metal wall and will only be let free on the day of Judgement. Obviously, no such wall has ever been found nor is there a tribe somewhere on earth trapped behind it.

{{Quote|{{Quran|21|96}}|
Until the Gog and Magog (people) are let through (their barrier), and they swiftly swarm from every hill. }}

===Supernatural Food===
{{Main|Parallelism Between the Qur'an and Judeo-Christian Scriptures}}

The Qur'an states Mary received food sent down from heaven. There have never been any scientifically verified accounts of fully cooked food falling from the sky.

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|115}}|
Jesus, son of Mary, said: O Allah, Lord of us! '''Send down for us a table spread with food from heaven, that it may be a feast for us''', for the first of us and for the last of us, and a sign from Thee. Give us sustenance, for Thou art the Best of Sustainers.}}

===A Stick Transforms into a Serpent===
{{Main|Parallelism Between the Qur'an and Judeo-Christian Scriptures}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|107}}|
Then (Moses) threw his rod, and behold! it was a serpent, plain (for all to see)! }}

===Solomon's Army of Genies and Birds===

Throughout history, kings and emperors had commanded huge and small amount of armies. None was ever recorded to possess armies that entirely consists of birds and genies. This story in the Qur'an draws on Jewish folklore.

{{Quote|{{Quran|27|16-17}}|
And Solomon was David's heir. He said: "O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and on us has been bestowed (a little) of all things: this is indeed Grace manifest (from Allah.)And before Solomon were marshalled his hosts― of Jinns and men and birds, and they were all kept in order and ranks.}}

He spoke with a [[w:Hoopoe|Hoopoe]] bird and wanted to punish it for a small error.

{{Quote|{{Quran|27|20-22}}|
And he took a muster of the Birds; and he said: "Why is it I see not the Hoopoe? Or is he among the absentees? I will certainly punish him with a severe Penalty, or execute him, unless he bring me a clear reason (for absence).}}

The Hoopoe bird was in fact busy eavesdropping on a beautiful female ruler, Queen Sheba.

{{Quote|{{Quran|27|23}}|
I found (there) a woman ruling over them and provided with every requisite; and she has a magnificent throne.}}

===Jonah Performs Repentance inside a Fish===

A human could not live inside a fish and pray.

{{Quote|{{Quran|37|142}}|
Then the big Fish did swallow him, and he had done acts worthy of blame. Had it not been that he (repented and) glorified Allah,He would certainly have remained inside the Fish till the Day of Resurrection.But We cast him forth, on the naked shore in a state of sickness}}

===Muhammad Flies on a Winged Horse to Heaven===
{{Main|Buraq}}

It took one week to travel from Mecca to the Farthest Mosque by camel. But the Qur'an reveals that a magical winged horse, called the Buraq, traveled a similar distance in a matter of minutes. No such creature has ever been shown to be real and it seems to only exist in legend and mythology.

{{Quote|{{Quran|17|1}}|
Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless,- in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things). }}

===Body Parts Speak===

The limbs and organs of a human are controlled by the brain that conveys electrical signal through the nervous system. But the Qur'an believes that the limbs can talk and testify against the person, even though they would have no voice, memory or mind of their own.

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|24}}|
On the Day when their tongues, their hands, and their feet will bear witness against them as to their actions. }}

===The Ocean Split in Half===

Moses and the Israelites crossed an ocean that was split into two halves.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|50}}|
And remember '''We divided the sea for you''' and saved you and drowned Pharaoh's people within your very sight. }}

===Solomon can Control the Wind===

King Solomon had the authority to manipulate the wind at his command and could fly anywhere he wanted.

{{Quote|{{Quran|38|36}}|
Then We subjected the wind to his power, to flow gently to his order, Whithersoever he willed }}

{{Quote|Ibn-Kathir | A flying carpet made from wood, on top of which he could carry everything in his kingdom including chairs, to wherever Solomon wants to go, whilst flocks of birds would fly over to give shade }}

===A Dead Man Testified against his Killer===

Scientifically, a man who has died for a few days can never be resurrected.

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|72}}|
And We said: Smite him with some of it. Thus Allah bringeth the dead to life and showeth you His portents so that ye may understand. }}

===Animals Speak to Humans===

The Qur'an states that a beast will come and tell humans the truth.

{{Quote|{{Quran|27|82}}|
And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the '''earth a beast''' to (face) them: '''He will speak to them''', for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs. }}

===Mountains and Birds can Sing Songs===

{{Quote|{{Quran|34|10}}|
And assuredly We gave David grace from Us, (saying): O ye hills and birds, echo his psalms of praise! And We made the iron supple unto him}}

==Others==

===Mathematical Error in Hereditary Laws===

{{Quote|{{Quran|4|11-12}}|
4.11: Allah (thus) directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased Left brothers (or sisters) the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases ('s) after the payment of legacies and debts. Ye know not whether your parents or your children are nearest to you in benefit. These are settled portions ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-knowing, Al-wise.

4.12: In what your wives leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child; but if they leave a child, ye get a fourth; after payment of legacies and debts. In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, if ye leave no child; but if ye leave a child, they get an eighth; after payment of legacies and debts. If the man or woman whose inheritance is in question, has left neither ascendants nor descendants, but has left a brother or a sister, each one of the two gets a sixth; but if more than two, they share in a third; after payment of legacies and debts; so that no loss is caused (to any one). Thus is it ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-knowing, Most Forbearing. }}

* Wife: 1/8 = 3/24,
* Daughters: 2/3 = 16/24,
* Father: 1/6 = 4/24,
* Mother: 1/6 = 4/24,
* '''Total''' = 27/24=1.125

The total does not equal to 1. This error can never be reconciled in any way. [http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/i001.html]

===People use the Forehead to Lie===
{{Main|Quran and the Lying Prefrontal Cerebrum|l1=Qur'an and the Lying Prefrontal Cerebrum}}

Brain wave technology has shown that electrical activity happens in the entire brain when a person is being deceitful.

{{Quote|{{Quran|96|15-16}}|
Let him beware! If he desist not, We will drag him by the forelock. A lying, sinful forehead.}}

===Sailing of Ships is a Miracle ===

Ships float due to buoyancy and they can be driven by various sources of power.

{{Quote|{{Quran|31|31}}| Seest thou not that the ships sail through the ocean by the Grace of Allah?- that He may show you of His signs? Verily in this are signs for all who constantly persevere and give thanks. }}

{{quote | {{cite quran|42|32|end=34|style=ref}} | And among His Signs are the ships, smooth-running through the ocean, (tall) as mountains. If it be His Will He can still the Wind: then would they become motionless on the back of the (ocean). Verily in this are Signs for everyone who patiently perseveres and is grateful. Or He can cause them to perish because of the (evil) which (the men) have earned; but much doth He forgive. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|17|66}}| Your Lord is He That maketh the Ship go smoothly for you through the sea, in order that ye may seek of his Bounty. For he is unto you most Merciful. }}

===Space Flight is Impossible ===

The first space ships and travel beyond the atmosphere of earth occurred over 60 years ago. With current technology, humankind has already explored the end of the solar system. The Qur'an however, implies that going beyond the earth is forbidden.

{{Quote|{{Quran|55|33}}|
O ye assembly of Jinns and men! If it be ye can pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, pass ye! not without authority shall ye be able to pass! }}

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See Also==

{{Hub4|Contradictions and Errors|Contradictions and Errors}}
* [[Scientific Errors in the Qur'an (Response)]]

[[Category:Qur'an]]
[[Category:Islam and Science]]
[[Category:Inconsistencies]]

User talk:Saggy

2014-08-25T05:18:39Z

PW. Jansen: /* Scientific Errors */ addition about boats and leap year.

==Scientific Errors==

Hi. That page uses title-case for capitalization of headings[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Standardization#Section_headings]. And there should not be multiple Qur'an translations used to illustrate a single error (i.e choose only one translation from the USC site). Both those errors were in your first edit to the page but I fixed them[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an&diff=102143&oldid=102140]. You have repeated those same errors in your second edit. You will have to fix them before your edits can be considered. Thanks. [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 13:27, 5 January 2014 (PST)
:I've reverted your edit again. You are aware this talk page discussion has been initiated. If you do not understand something here, the answer is not to reinsert whatever was reverted with a summary saying "btw I don't understand". That's basically ignoring this talk page. If you don't understand something then ask. [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 19:07, 9 January 2014 (PST)
::Not much time . ok , what am I to do to caps? If u revert instead of correcting (which is a loss to the readers), others dont mind? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:48, 10 January 2014 (PST)
:::No they don't mind. Quality standards are high on this wiki. If editors do not have the time to adhere to guidelines/stick to proper etiquette or take the care to format their contributions properly, we'd rather they not edit at all. Do you think it's fair if others have to waste their time cleaning up after someone else's edits? We don't. [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 11:49, 10 January 2014 (PST)

Got it. Got mistake. Thanks. (Or u want me to stop doing anything until we complete discussing?)[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:53, 10 January 2014 (PST)
:No, that's fine. Thanks. [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 11:42, 10 January 2014 (PST)
hi Saggy, this Science error/Quran page is popular and is often linked to by people so its important for this page to be as strong as possible. Some errors are more obvious than others. Some only appear in one translation and so on. For example the Golden Calf statue verse that you added was great. It obviously goes against science and is a glaring error while some others are not that obvious.

One idea I have is to keep the strongest errors at the top and the less obvious ones (or the ones that can be explained in some way by apologists) near the bottom in another section. I tried making some rules here: [[Talk:Scientific Errors in the Qur'an]] (draft). Let me know your thoughts. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 08:19, 1 February 2014 (PST)
:How can we judge weakness? Its is everyones POV. EG Every claim about the sky is weak on its own. But when put together its a huge blunder. We already have sections for the branchs of science. At most we'll put weak claims at bottom of each section. of course we mustnt say - xyz is a weaker claim , we can try to explian it or justifiy it as much as possible..[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 12:52, 1 February 2014 (PST)
::Hi, I moved your comment back to keep it in one place. Some errors are present in Arabic and the translations, while others are present only in the translations. For example Constellations. Apologetist might say the Quran just means "collections of light" and yes these were made by Allah for humans (for example) and he was just talking in a general sense. A more glaring error is the Golden statue or mathematics of inheritance. So some are more obvious, the others are a little iffy and have some conditions.
::You might have some good points, I'm myself unsure about this issue so I'm just talking about it to see if there's any concrete ideas. So thats one idea, to put weak claims at the bottom.
::Another suggestion is to look at other websites like Answering-Islam and expand on the evidence for these errors, for example with arabic or tafsir.
::Another thing. Verses should be checked against the 3 translators to make sure those are the only ones we're using. I saw an instance where there was another translation being used and it was corrected. I will try to go through all of them.
::Anyone else have anything about this? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 16:06, 1 February 2014 (PST)
:::3 translators is ok. but we cant cry about translation matters in the article itself or lose content bcoz of them. on the long run give Every claim its main article like we have lying forehead or sunset in a muddy spring. As for constellations, other translations are "towers" or "mansions"- Both are disgusting if we take them literaly. And the calf statue may be defended by just calling it a miracle. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 23:05, 1 February 2014 (PST)
::::Alright then fair enough unless anyone else has anything to add for improving the article. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 10:29, 2 February 2014 (PST)
:::::I moved the one for constellation here on your page [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User:Saggy/Sandbox_-_Issues_with_Quran_and_Hadith&diff=107464&oldid=106860]. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 16:43, 15 May 2014 (PDT)

:::::: Hi Saggy, I found some more miracles of floating boats: 2:164, 16:14, 42:32. Perhaps it should be mentioned that at Muhammad's time Archimedes law describing buoyancy was more than 8 centuries old. Shall I put it in? Also I added a remark about the missing leap year on Axius talk page. --[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 22:18, 24 August 2014 (PDT)

== Quran details ==

For [[WikiIslam:Sandbox/Qur%27anic_Claim_of_Having_Details]], how did you find these verses? For example the first two. Through your own study? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 18:16, 24 February 2014 (PST)
:Yea--[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:45, 25 February 2014 (PST)
::Thats great. I will try to work on this article. I had just added a few lines at the top. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 10:48, 25 February 2014 (PST)
:::Just a quick pointer for Saggy concerning that page; readers should not be directly addressed. So rather than say, ''"What will this beast be like? How come it will be able to talk to people?"'', it should say something like, ''"The Qur'an does not elaborate on the physical appearance of this beast or how it would communicate with humans"''. The Isra and Mi'raj section seems to have it right. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:51, 25 February 2014 (PST)
::::Yea, we'll have to work on that after the verses have been put in.
::::Saggy how are you finding these verses? Through search or by reading the verses yourself and searching for issues? Any plans of getting more?
::::Still not sure about the article or where it will go but I think its a good idea (needs more verses though). Its different than the usual "errors/contradictions" and so on. Its another kind of defect but we'll see how it goes. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 19:21, 25 February 2014 (PST)
:::::Some are old things i just recollect (like i heard- isra-mi'raj is incomplete without reading bukhari)--[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 09:19, 26 February 2014 (PST)
::::::Some of the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Five_Pillars_of_Islam Five Pillars] could be included. They're covered [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an_Only_Islam_-_Why_it_is_Not_Possible#Five_Pillars_of_Islam here] (not a very well written article , but it provides the necessary info). There's also the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Jizyah Jizyah]. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 06:09, 27 February 2014 (PST)

== Discussions link ==

To make it easy for us to track discussions among current editors, I moved the discussion about logical errors to the Discussions page [[WikiIslam:Forum|Discussions]] page (linked on the left). I'll reply there soon. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 04:35, 6 March 2014 (PST)
:Just letting you know that there's a new "Editing" section on the left that has all the links related to Editing (including Discussions). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 15:30, 6 March 2014 (PST)

== Contracted forms ==

Hi Saggy. I've corrected your use of contracted forms and the missing question mark [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Contradictions_in_the_Qur%27an&diff=105449&oldid=105391 here]. Please read the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Article_Style_and_Content_Guide WikiIslam:Article Style and Content Guide]. Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:58, 8 March 2014 (PST)

== Inheritance Laws ==

I thought I'd ask you since you've been interested in the errors/contradictions topics. Inheritance laws ([[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#Mathematical_Error_in_Hereditary_Laws]]) have had some responses like [http://www.khalidzaheer.com/qa/615] and [http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/the_inheritance_law__by_ansar_al__adl].

Do you know how to respond to these rebuttals and see if there's anything to investigate here? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 17:56, 12 March 2014 (PDT)

:Easy- site 1-"Out of the remaining (11 out of 24), the two daughters are going to get one-third each. " site 2- "And for the daughters 2/3 of '''what remains''' = 2/3 of 13/24=13/36 of the total amount" This ''remaining'' is assumed. Where is it mentioned? Nothing is mentioned so u have to divide whole (24 / 24) into two thirds. Other sites do the same thing.[http://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/1408/inheritance-shares-dont-add-up-to-1] theres in fact no consistency in whom to divide the remainder among. One site[http://www.kurandersleri.net/miras/en/Miras_Erkek_en.html] divides watever looks comfortable, whole or remains, only to ensure that fractions add upto 1 or a lesser value. [This http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/inh_01.htm] uses the contradictory shares of sisters to convert more than 1 to less than 1. Some use an old law of increasing denominator in the sum so that it is equal to numerator- but they violate all the stated fractions[http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/ma_addup.htm]. First, 4:11-12 have 10+ rules and and 4:176 has 4 rules contradicting some of them so lots of whims will show up. We are not even talking about gender injustice in this.--[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:21, 14 March 2014 (PDT)
::Ok. We should then think about making an article about this later on. Currently [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Inheritance_Laws this] exists but it may not be dealing with the rebuttals and its also an essay by another author, so we can make a new article about this later. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 09:46, 14 March 2014 (PDT)
:Ya start it.--[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 12:05, 14 March 2014 (PDT)
::For now I just added a link to this section to the tasks page. [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=WikiIslam:Tasks&diff=105798&oldid=105528]. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 14:59, 14 March 2014 (PDT)

== Comprehension of errors ==

Can you please explain how you interpreted [http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/052-sbt.php#004.052.051 Bukhari 4:52:51] to [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Hadith&curid=9085&diff=106685&oldid=106682 mean] "Orbit of the Sun is comparable to a Bow". From a cursory glance, it doesn't say anything of the sort. What it says is that having an area the size of a bow (not the bow itself) in heaven is better (not comparable) to having the entire earth (not sun). That same hadith continues by saying, "A single endeavor in Allah's Cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all that on which the sun rises and sets." If we apply your logic to the rest of the same narration, it would mean that the "Orbit of the Sun is comparable to a single endeavor in Allah's Cause" is also a valid interpretation, something which it is not. I find it hard to understand how you could misinterpret something so obvious, so please do explain it to us. Can you also stop rushing things (like you had previously agreed)? This way you would avoid making typos such as "comaprable". [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 16:03, 5 April 2014 (PDT)
:[http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/052-sbt.php#004.052.053 Bukhari 4:52:53] says, "A place in Paradise as small as the bow '''or lash''' of one of you is better than '''all the world''' and whatever is in it." So clearly the connection you made between the shape of a bow and the sun's orbit does not exist. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 16:26, 5 April 2014 (PDT)
::Saggy, I would also like to know how you made that deduction and add to this query. Recently you interpreted the Horseman thing and now this certain one as well. Its good that you're exploring new verses and hadiths but there is a problem in how you're interpreting text. If you dont understand a certain text, you can ask us on your talk or on the [[forum]] page. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 04:34, 6 April 2014 (PDT)
::Suppose you wanted to say the same thing, no matter if it sounds good or mediocre: "A place as small as X is better than that on which Y happens." Of course "that" could refer to "place " better than to "X". But if X is not something typically ''small,'' what is the point in saying it? ''Bow'' must have the other meaning (which is backed up by that sun travelling-prostrating and permission verse) Come on, u could have said as small as... anything. Why bow? You can think of several adjectives on hearing the word bow, except "small." Whether this was narrated at war (single endeavor) or some other hadith sounds partly similar, does not matter. That could be a change of the simile made in the first place. Is a place anything like a bow? The sun rises and sets? Not at all. Only a person who thinks the sun runs on a semicircle over the other place(earth) would have said "bow." [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 10:53, 6 April 2014 (PDT)

:::'''"But if X is not something typically ''small,'' what is the point in saying it?"'''
:::A bow is small in comparison to the earth or in comparison to a lot of things.
:::'''"''Bow'' must have the other meaning"'''
:::You only assert that it must, but you haven't provided any convincing reasons why.
:::'''"Come on, u could have said as small as... anything. Why bow?"'''
:::Because they were warriors and Muhammad was describing where they would go when they die in battle. Is that really too much of a stretch? No, it makes perfect sense. In fact it's what most people would get from reading that verse. Your explanation just comes of as a stretch.
:::'''"You can think of several adjectives on hearing the word bow, except "small.""'''
:::Words such as "dying" and "in battle" spring to mind. And I don't agree with your "except small" comment. A bow is small in comparison to the world, so there is no valid reason why it could not be described as "small".
:::'''"Whether this was narrated at war (single endeavor) or some other hadith sounds partly similar, does not matter."'''
:::Of course it does. That is what we call "context". Context is what helps us understand the meanings behind text. It is what Muslim apologists usually ignore. And of course what "some other hadith sounds partly similar" says is important. It's important because it is describing the exact same event, but via a different narrator. Even the one hadith you are misinterpreting debunks your ideas when read fully (refer to my original post)'
:::'''"Is a place anything like a bow?"'''
:::The hadith does not claim any place is like a bow, it is referring to the size of the bow. You don't need that to be explained. It is written in plain English for everyone to see (i.e. "as ''small'' as a bow").
:::'''"Only a person who thinks the sun runs on a semicircle over the other place(earth) would have said "bow.""'''
:::You havn't shown that at all. Your reasoning is convoluted and ignores the obvious meaning. I would suggest sticking to hadiths that are clear errors rather than ones that need your interpretations. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 12:10, 6 April 2014 (PDT)
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Saggy, so that we're clear this is the the hadith:
:Volume 4, Book 52, Number 51: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A place in Paradise as small as a bow is better than all that on which the sun rises and sets (i.e. all the world)." He also said, "A single endeavor in Allah's Cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all that on which the sun rises and sets."
Breaking it up, "X is better than Y".

X = "A place in Paradise as small as a bow." (a small sized object)

Y = "all that on which the sun rises and sets" (some kind of large space according to the Quran)

Your title was "Orbit of the Sun is comparable to a Bow". This is incorrect. The ''size'' of a bow is being compared to the size of the sun's place of rising and setting.

The hadith means "A tiny place in Islamic Heaven is better than a huge place which is not part of Heaven".

If you're talking about the arc of a bow (golden part [https://3dmagicmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/bow-and-arrow-3d-model1.jpg here] which is a semi circle) being compared to what an observer on Earth sees, this is not an error. We see that kind of semi-circle even today as we see the sun form an arc. A scientist can say "look how the Sun makes (or seems to make) a semi circle around the Earth". So these things can be explained. This is like the horseman hadith where there wasnt any interpretation like the one you were saying there was. As again if you come across a hadith and you're not sure of the meaning you can ask us. On the other hand, the hadith could be added to as supporting evidence ("the sun rises and sets"): [[Geocentrism_and_the_Quran#Muslims_around_the_time_of_Muhammad]] but I think its weak on its own on the Errors page: --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 12:46, 6 April 2014 (PDT)
:Sahab what do you think of the addition here? [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Geocentrism_and_the_Quran&diff=106736&oldid=103187] Since the hadith is saying the same thing about the sun. (sun rises and sets). If you dont agree its fine for it to be removed (its up to you). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 13:00, 6 April 2014 (PDT)
::Hi Ax. Yeah, I've removed it. Even with those surrounding hadith, this particular hadith is not making any reference whatsoever to the orbit of the sun. If I can see this and you can see this, then so can most other people. As you noted, the object being "compared" to the bow is something ''other'' than the sun itself. There is not "ifs" or "buts" about it. The second hadith down from that one confirms the meaning (which was obvious anyway.). It's like a Muslim saying a can of Pepsi is more refreshing than all that is inside a coffee cup, then us accusing him of saying a ceramic cup is more refreshing than a soft drink. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:20, 6 April 2014 (PDT)
:::Ok then, sounds good. Yea that analogy is similar. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 14:26, 6 April 2014 (PDT)

== Contradictions in the Qur'an and Hadith ==

Hi Saggy. I've deleted that page. A page like that is something that would interest "Quranists", not us. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:03, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
:I've moved the content to his personal sandbox for now: [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Contradictions in the Qur'an and Hadith]]. I'll send an email about this. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:01, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
::We have an (old) article about the very same contradiction mentioned by Saggy ([[Muhammads Miracles|Muhammad's Miracles]]). If you read the section on Bukhari's criteria, you'll see that Muslims have contradictions between the Qur'an and Hadith covered. Thus it renders the article completely pointless. In fact, Muslims will probably think it's funny and talk about how we don't know anything about the "science of hadith". That's on top of the fact that such an article would only be used for Qur'anist propaganda. If the very idea is pointless, then I don't see any benefit from letting an editor waste their time working on it. That is why I deleted it rather than just leave it in a sandbox. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 15:39, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
:::I just dont have energy to debate about this at the moment so I deleted the Sandbox page. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 16:36, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
::::What if I find more contradictions?[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 03:25, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
:::::Here I've made a page for you that gives you the freedom to do any kind of QHS work (since that is something you like doing). You can reorganize content there using section headings (logical error, hadith errors, contradictions, etc):
:::::[[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith]] - use this for any new work or new ideas to keep it in the same place.
:::::Just keep in mind that we can have a democratic discussion together later on as to whether certain content will be approved or not for conversion from sandbox to main space. My view is that interesting QHS can be re-used in other places too in some way so if you have discovered verses or hadiths that are interesting, it is totally OK for them to go in a personal sandbox page of your own. Sandboxes are all excluded from Google search so no one can find them unless they come to recent changes/contributions and explore that way. Doing this does not harm the quality of the main content as sandbox content has to be carefully reviewed to make sure it complies with guidelines and the mission.
:::::You can keep adding content for existing pages as you are doing (Scientific errors in hadith, in the Quran, Contradictions in the Quran etc.) As before we will review those to see if they are ok as that is content in the main space.
:::::Doing a short reply for Sahab, if Quranists want to use content on our site for any purpose, its a good thing. It brings them to our site and they have effectively approved content on our site (I think its a plus for us). They're a minority so I would not worry about them. I can make many more points but my point is that all alternatives can be argued for equally. There are advantages and disadvantages for each alternative.
:::::''"you'll see that Muslims have contradictions between the Qur'an and Hadith covered."'' - those are only contradictions for miracles, not other topics. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 04:25, 11 April 2014 (PDT)

::::::To Saggy: My action was not based on the quality or length of the page (I was obviously aware that you would add to it). It was based on the fact that the actual idea behind the article was not suitable. Regardless, Axius has recreated the page so you can carry on working on it.

::::::To Axius: '''"those are only contradictions for miracles, not other topics"'''
::::::Did you read that section about Bukhari's criteria? Mat'n applies to ALL contradictions between the Qur'an and hadith.
::::::'''"if Quranists want to use content on our site for any purpose"'''
::::::Strawman. I never objected to them using this site. My point is that it ONLY benefits their propaganda, nothing else. If we allow something like this, why not also allow Atheistig to write an article about how unreliable the hadith are? [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 04:34, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
:::::::''"Let's go all the way and invalidate 95% of our material just to keep 1 editor happy."'' ---- :-) this is an imaginary situation that hasn't happened yet so lets not do that.
:::::::He knows its a Sandbox page that later may or may not be approved so whats the issue? I dont see any.
:::::::''"Mat'n applies to ALL contradictions between the Qur'an and hadith."'' - is Bukhari's criteria the golden absolute rule on deciding whats a contradiction? I would say no. To me a Sahih hadith is Sahih. I would say that Bukhari does not have the authority to invalidate the Hadiths of other Hadith collectors (like Muslim). Also if the criteria is to delete things that are in contradiction with each other, the Quran contradicts itself in various verses, so what does one do about that? To most people they are all valid Islamic sources (especially Sahih hadiths). All these points can be mentioned on a page about Quran/hadith contradictions. All of these things seen together expose more serious problems with Islam and create challenges for people reading them.
:::::::''"My point is that it ONLY benefits their propaganda"'' - Again they are a minority. The other side effect is letting the rest of the Muslims know that these contradictions exist. Most Muslims view hadiths as holy. I would say that they would have to deal with the contradiction when they see it and it creates a challenge for them.
::::::: My main point here again is that cases can be argued against equally. Its a Sandbox page and people have the right to work on a Sandbox which later may or may not be approved (as long its not an obvious content violation). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 05:13, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
::::::::You have not dealt with anything I've actually said, so no they can't be argued against equally. I've mentioned several times why I deleted that page from the sandbox but you continue acting like I never explained. Your opinion on Bukhari's criteria is irrelevant. Mat'n is a well known thing. Hence, contradictions between the Qur'an and certain hadith will not effect mainstream Islam in the slightest. And wth, you're telling editors to stay away from me now? The discussion we're having now isn't even on my talk page, so maybe you should have considered a more appropriate time or place to mention this or considered how it would look to others? [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 05:09, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
::::::::::Although you're right my comment could have been made at a better time (so ok, I apologize again for making it at the wrong time), I never asked anyone to stay away from you when I made the [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Saggy&diff=106872&oldid=106871 comment]. You had removed some comments from your own talk page earlier if you recall [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sahab&diff=106769&oldid=106768] so I was stressing the point that others should use the forum page for general issues and not someone's talk page.
::::::::::I'm asking everyone to follow talk page guidelines and core [[WikiIslam:Core_Principles|community principles]] and assume good faith. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 12:12, 13 April 2014 (PDT)
:::::::::"Matn"'s definition on Wikipedia doesnt mention Bukhari or the contradiction issue, why is that? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_studies#Sanad_and_matn]. "text of the report" =matn is what I'm seeing, not a contradiction with the Quran issue. Are there are sources to support what Matn means? As I mentioned, the issue of deletion arises at the point of review when something is being considered for main space but not before that when it is in a temporary condition (in the Sandbox). Saggy knows it may or may not be approved. As for whether you're right or I'm right, I've shown that points can be made on both sides. Lets do that full debate when the time comes for a review of that piece. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 05:23, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
::::::::::To hightlight it again our page [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muhammads_Miracles] that you pointed to in the begining and you refered to it again, claims ''"His third criteria is mat'n, i.e. the content of a narration must not be in contradiction with the Qur'an."'', but there's no reference for that. According to other sources Matn means "text of the hadith", not "must not be in contradiction with the Quran". Bukhari's criteria of this contradiction cannot apply to other Hadith scholars (it is his own personal opinion). And even if we were to assume such a criteria, we are faced by the question: Is a Sahih hadith being declared invalid simply because of the contradiction? Why was it considered in the first place if it was actually invalid? The hadith was considered authentic because the events narrated actually happened.
::::::::::In any case a sourced definition of Matn would be one point. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 05:36, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
{{outdent}}
Visiting this again and stressing this point:
:''Mat'n applies to ALL contradictions between the Qur'an and hadith.''
This is not correct as Mat'n means "the text of the hadith" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_studies#Sanad_and_matn] and has nothing to do with "Contradictions between Quran and Hadith". The source article [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muhammads_Miracles#Bukhari.27s_criteria] you linked for Miracles should have the definition of Matn sourced correctly. I believe this is a page that an author made with the username starting with J (forgot the full name). So this line:
:''His third criteria is mat'n, i.e. the content of a narration must not be in contradiction with the Qur'an.''
is incorrectly implying that Matn = the content of a narration must not be in contradiction with the Qur'an. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 10:57, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
::Clarified [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muhammads_Miracles#Bukhari.27s_criteria] and changed from:
:::His third criteria is ''mat'n'', i.e. the content of a narration must not be in contradiction with the Qur'an.
::To:
:::His third criteria is regarding ''mat'n'' (text), i.e. the text/content of a narration must not be in contradiction with the Qur'an.
::So its clear that Matn means just "text" and not "no contradiction between Quran and hadith". --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:57, 12 April 2014 (PDT)
:::Pointing out contradictions between Quran and hadith is a criticism of Islam. Our site's mission is criticism of Islam (or to provide "an accurate and comprehensive resource on Islam" as currently mentioned in the [[WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_is_the_purpose_of_WikiIslam.3F|FAQ]], which is even more inclusive), not whether certain criticism is seen as favorable to certain minority sects of Islam like Quran-only.
:::And as I mentioned (sorry if I'm repeating some points), this certain criticism is not seen as favorable to the majority of Muslims who do believe in the hadith. The Matn contradiction issue is Bukhari's opinion and cannot invalidate all problematic hadiths, (definitely not other hadiths like Muslim and neither his own) just because he said so. In short again that means we should not be excluding criticism of Islam because it is favoring a minority sect. And again, we will have a full picture of the situation when there is an actual article to review which there is none at this time. Its just text in a Sandbox. In an article like this Quran/hadith contradiction issue, we definitely want to point out clearly that people can not simply reject Sahih hadiths for whatever reason. There was a reason they were considered Sahih. Sometimes a certain issue is covered in multiple Hadiths which adds to the strength of what the Hadith is saying. If there are multiple Hadith collectors (Muslim and Bukhari for example) that is even more evidence that a Hadith's content actually happened and it is difficult to reject that hadith. So we should wait to see what an article looks like in the end to give a full opinion. The other issue again is, if Contradiction is the reason to reject a hadith, Quranic verses which contradict each other also have a problem. As for Atheistig's article, I dont know what that situation was and perhaps we missed a chance on making a valid article but I dont know enough details. Having an article that mentions Quran/hadith contradictions provides motivation for further strengthening the position that it is not possible to reject hadiths and definitely not Sahih hadiths, so it provides motivation for further improving the "Quran only - Why it is not possible" article or any other content like that. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 04:21, 12 April 2014 (PDT)
::::Saggy, whats your opinion about the fact that some Muslims may try to reject that contradict the Quran? We need to make sure that your hadith/Quran article also explains (using references) why it is not possible to reject Sahih hadiths that contradict the Quran. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 04:32, 12 April 2014 (PDT)

== 1000 years ==

Please note [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Contradictions_in_the_Qur%27an&diff=106878&oldid=106876] and see the edit summary. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 05:42, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
:But the verses are clear. 1 day = 1000 years or 1 day=50000 yrs. Human days are not mentioned. Have you read the speed of light hoax?[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 05:51, 11 April 2014 (PDT)

{{Quote||How long is Allah's day?

One thousand days
Yet they ask thee to hasten on the Punishment! But Allah will not fail in His Promise.
Verily a Day in the sight of thy Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning.
Qur'an 22:47

Fifty thousand days
The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty
thousand years:
}}

"Verily a Day in the sight of thy Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning"

It means one day for '''ALLAH''', is the same as 1000 years for '''HUMANS'''.

See that? "'''Your''' reckoning" = human's perspective. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 06:03, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
:U quote years and still insist on days? Reckoning means our "count" not days or years. Everywhere online the meaning is 1000/50000 years not days. Of course it is same perspective for everyone. Time flows the same for all ( we or anyone outside the solarsystem). The measurement and units differ. (This also debunks the Einsteins theory of relativity miracle claim for the above verses). A day for us is 24 hours. Nobody can change this. Day is defined by a planets rotation! His day is nothing to do with our 24 hrs in anyway! Why do i even need to say this when the equation is about years? Let me show one more : "He regulates the affair from the heaven to the earth; then shall it ascend to Him in a day the measure of which is a thousand years of what you count" 32:5. Clear length of a day is given. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 11:39, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
::Well I'm sorry, you were right from the start - my mistake. I got confused somehow and didnt read the hadith carefully enough. It should have been easy to spot that but I missed it somehow (I probably was in a hurry at that time). It is indeed a 1000 years. I reverted it back now. [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Contradictions_in_the_Qur%27an&diff=106876&oldid=106861].
::Good catch on seeing this error and fixing it. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:02, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
:::''"Have you read the speed of light hoax"'' - I've heard of the speed of might miracle but know nothing more than that. There is an article here about that: [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Speed_of_Light_in_the_Quran]. Is this what you were thinking of? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:03, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
::::Yeah, that miracle itself is based on a day=1000 years and many more reasons to be a hoax. I will laugh hours long if I read it again. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:29, 12 April 2014 (PDT)

== Rain/miraculous ==

This is another of those weaker errors [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#Rain_has_Miraculous_Effects].
: Remember He covered you with a sort of drowsiness, to give you calm as from Himself, and he caused rain to descend on you from heaven, to clean you therewith, to remove from you the stain of Satan, to strengthen your hearts, and to plant your feet firmly therewith.

What if the apologetic response is: "The rain was a special rain for the prophet, it was not ordinary rain. It was a miraculous rain." - its talking about the rain for the prophet right? Its a specific example. These kinds of errors should not be mixed with stronger errors. Something will have to be done about these kinds of errors. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 17:55, 17 April 2014 (PDT)
:"your hearts". Thus it is not for one person but plural. The earlier verses are not clear on who the audience is(a common goof). If there is a claim of a miracle with tafsirs or stuff to back up (Ibn kathir and Ibn abbas have nothing to say), we can post it under miracles. one site said there are two battles in the single verse (Uhud and Badr) but it is not entirely true to them. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 23:47, 17 April 2014 (PDT)
::Strong errors are long since covered so we have only these. We can rearange them within their section as I think i said. Another site "islamfrominside.com" says everything is about Badr but Wikipedia does not say so. Apologists have four effects of rain to explain infact. The last "feet" one differs in translations. Anyway, The whole miracle about Badr is wrong. The error began with "Allah caused the rain" itself. He cannot cause it, it just happens. If he caused it, what was he doing in much bigger battles in future? Testing believers? How long will he do this? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 00:05, 18 April 2014 (PDT)
:::Although you do great finding interesting verses/hadiths I have to say this:
:::''"Strong errors are long since covered so we have only these."'' - then I would rather not weaken the article with less stronger verses. The problem is when people post the article somewhere and someone points out the excuses like I showed, its discouraging for the person who posts the link. Then they have to work through the rebuttal and point out things like you did - many people are not as committed or may not know what to say. If the errors are strong they cannot be refuted in any way and it makes it easy for the other person who posts our link. This page is one of our most popular pages and its critical for it to be a good page. In fact, you see the under construction template at the top. The article needs to be reviewed and fixed so we can get rid of the template.
:::''We can rearange them within their section as I think i said.'' - sorry I forgot about what you said earlier. So what did you say, how should it be arranged? Lets see how we can do this and keep the stronger errors in one place and the weaker ones in some kind of "misc" section. Should each section have its own Miscellaneous section, or do we collect all of them at the bottom in one section? I'm thinking about the latter.
:::I made a link on your user page: [[User:Saggy]].
:::One of the most critical goals we have to take care of is to increase the quantity of good-quality editors. If you have any suggestions let me know. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 17:16, 18 April 2014 (PDT)
::::I donn't believe in strong or weak in case of refutation. If an error is refuted its not an error till we explain how we are correct. I will try to sort the sections on sc errors.[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:42, 22 April 2014 (PDT)
:::::For some errors its hard to find any justification while others can have some. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 17:31, 22 April 2014 (PDT)

== Moon split (wikipedia) ==

That article is a joke now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_of_the_moon

Look at this talk page discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Splitting_of_the_moon#Good_article_nomination_on_hold
They were trying to make it into a good article a long time ago. Now the lead has this:
:In 2010 a NASA Lunar Science Institute (NLSI) staff scientist said "No current scientific evidence reports that the Moon was split into two (or more) parts and then reassembled at any point in the past."[7]

And the "NASA" section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_of_the_moon#NASA_mis-cited_as_proof

I bet now they would like to go the opposite direction and make sure no one sees that article. Anyway, I think its taken care of (for now). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 21:05, 20 May 2014 (PDT)

==Quran/evolution==
The new sandbox article you made on evolution is good. Here's a QHS page on it: [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Creation]] and this is a pro-Islamic page: [[Qur'an and the Theory of Evolution]].

If you're just gathering verses, you can add them to the existing QHS page. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 21:02, 20 May 2014 (PDT)
:No this is about the apology claim on evolution. so i have to write that. I dont think a QHS can cover that thing.[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:14, 22 May 2014 (PDT)
::Ok. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 13:32, 22 May 2014 (PDT)

== Scientific Errors #2 ==

I have asked you not to add any verses to the Scientific errors page and for now only add them to your sandbox page. The article is currently under review and new stuff should not be added there while it is under review. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 16:01, 23 May 2014 (PDT)

== Moon Position ==

Once again the addition you added [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an&curid=9078&diff=107595&oldid=107587] is not an error in my opinion. Its just describing what things look like to humans (aesthetically). The verse literally does not mean "the moon is placed between the seven layers". It is talking about what it looks like to humans.

The seven layers is an error, that we know (and that error is present on the page I think) but the "moon is among them" just means what it appears to people on Earth. Lightyears if you see this, any thoughts on this addition? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 16:06, 23 May 2014 (PDT)
:No, it does not mean what the moon appears from earth. It directly places the moon somewhere. Moon and its reflected light is insignificant in the first heaven itself, let alone seven heavens. If it is about the how the moon "appears", why is appears not mentioned? How about this "The whole book appears like a war manual, a book full of hate for kafirs. but it only appears, it is not true and it was only about a 7th century power struggle. Muhammad only appears like a criminal from all the content but this is not true and all he did was right for his situation" ? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 23:45, 23 May 2014 (PDT)

:This is not a demonstrable error. Fee simply means in and feeinna means in that. In the constellations verse (25.61), it indicates that the stars are also said to be in (fee) the heavens and the sun and moon in it (feeha). Muslims will generally assume that the stars, sun and moon are in the nearest one, where other verses specify that the stars are. They believe the entirety of the visible universe is in this nearest heaven, and the other heavens are in some physical or metaphysical sense beyond it. No verse can disprove this. The only heaven ever explained is the lowest heaven.[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 02:07, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
::Sorry, it can be disproven. 54:11 "Then opened We the gates of heaven with pouring water".[http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/054-qmt.php](the word is sama) Does this rainwater come from the universe? seven heaven = seven layers of atmosphere is wrong (because of the stars verse) and seven heavens = seven universes that we are yet to explore is wrong also beacause of this rain verse. The winged horse that goes to all seven heavens is another example of how awfully wrong things are. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:03, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
:::As if this is not enough, read [http://download.iranville.com/books/%DA%A9%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A8%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C%20%D8%A7%D9%86%DA%AF%D9%84%DB%8C%D8%B3%DB%8C/Ali%20Sina%20-%20Understanding%20Muhammad.pdf here] p. 111 Last but one paragraph about stars. More proof that we are becoming appeasers.[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:27, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
::::Saggy, the issue is the word "therein" (The Position of the Moon). As Lightyears said "This is not a demonstrable error."
::::You have been addressed by 3 people (me, Sahab and Lightyears) about the issues in your additions and you're still unwilling to understand what we're saying. As again you can do what you want in your sandbox.
::::''"More proof that we are becoming appeasers"'' - no this is not true. We are preventing the site from being mocked. I dont have to remind you of all the times the issues have been pointed out to you.
::::How much Arabic do you know? Are you looking at Lexicons like Lightyears is? I looked at the PDF and didnt see anything about this specific verse on p. 111 (of the PDF or as marked in the book).
::::''"It directly places the moon somewhere."'' - it does not. It simply says "among them". The placement described in Quran is vague. The position of the moon is being described as "therein / in their midst". --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 04:44, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
:::::And I see the paragraph on pg 111 of that book now (begins with "The Egyptian Muslim scholar..."). The original source if found, can be added to a relevant QHS about Astrology but the topic under discussion that I opened here is the Moon position and the use of the word Therein and again with regards to that, Lightyears agreed with me and said it is not an error and he used his knowledge of Arabic ("Fee simply means in and feeinna means in that"). The Science/Quran errors page is critical and needs urgent attention to delete any more non-errors. They should be moved to a Sandbox so they are not lost. I will try to see what can be done about that. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 09:21, 24 May 2014 (PDT)

== Forbidden things ==

Google search for [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=islam%20forbidden%20things&safe=off islam forbidden things] can also help. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:01, 5 June 2014 (PDT)
:From the silliness page, [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Wicked_wigs], Wigs, One-shoe walks outlawed, Say no to green jars and white jars, Sinning with silverware, Allah likes sneezing but hates yawning, Fight polytheists by trimming moustache, Pus better than poetry, Allah curses tatooed women, Looking up during prayer may cause blindness.
:Blackgammon [http://www.muslimconverts.com/Munajjid-books/forbiden.htm#67], "Playing with dice"--[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 16:39, 11 July 2014 (PDT)
:: Search link for [http://sunnah.com/search/forbade "forbade"]. 1150 results. Other searches could be for words "haram", "outlawed", prohibited, "do not", "disallowed" etc--[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 20:01, 11 July 2014 (PDT)

== Scientific errors - response blog ==

Here's a blog that has some "refutations" of a small amount of errors. [http://quran-errors.blogspot.com/] These should be checked and used to further strengthen [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an our page] (without needing to specifically mention this blog). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 04:17, 14 June 2014 (PDT)

:*'''Universe contracting/Heaven is from Smoke:''' Why talk about galaxys and gas clouds? The verse says earth and heaven were coming together (and talking to Allah). Earth is as old as Galaxies? Nope.
:*'''Mountains:''' i think [http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Quran_and_Mountains this] is sufficient. They dont stabilize so they are not pegs.
:*'''Universe was made in 6 days:''' It was not made in 6 periods. There are no 6 periods. The best that guy could do was reject the backup hadith of Sahih Muslim.
:*'''Seven Planets''': rejecting a tafsir that does not support them. The seven planets have names, will add them soon.
:*'''Thunder is an Angel:''' Again rejecting a tafsir. I have added a similar hadith.
:*'''Moonlight:''' Nur never means reflected light. Poor guy wasted so much time. Ibn Kathir is also wrong (that moon light is different from the sun's).
:*Rest we have already covered: embryology, geocentric, flat earth.
:*'''Sun sets in a Muddy spring:''' We covered the word meanings. No use of the apologists dictionary, he cherrypicked meanings. Two or three scholars he quoted are utterly flimsy who make more errors defending one. Rest of scholars are tolerable, but still wrong as we have proven in the word analysis. The last part reminds me, do we have articles on hadith authenticity other than the list of fake hadiths?
:I will see how to add all the above, or it could be there already.
:[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 13:43, 14 June 2014 (PDT)
::Yes, best to somehow improve the existing information on our side (if needed) or add additional supporting evidence where possible. A small "Responses to Apologetics" section can made for each error below the verse.
::Yes I saw that the blog has rejected the Tafsir. When all else fails they resort to "The Tafsir/hadith is weak". I'm sure every single hadith can be considered weak if all the chain of narrators are examined. They just do the analysis for the hadiths they dont like. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:04, 14 June 2014 (PDT)
:::I'll try to work on this too. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:19, 15 June 2014 (PDT)
::::A responses section below every verse? It will look like a train wreck. Better say in the lead that there are responses and detailed analysis in the main articles of verses.[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 10:56, 15 June 2014 (PDT)
::::Which are the other top 10 articles?[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 10:57, 15 June 2014 (PDT)
:::::You have a gmail account? I can add you to the statistics view and you can see the top 10.
:::::Many errors dont have a dedicated page. "Responses to apolgetics/Notes" - basically a few lines to repel criticism. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 13:39, 15 June 2014 (PDT)
::::::I go one by one; we have [[Qur'an and a Universe from Smoke]] for the first claim. i think it should be linked and then expanded, but iam not yet sure how to expand.[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 09:15, 17 June 2014 (PDT)
:::::::I dont either. There are many good existing articles written on various other websites, try searching. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 17:37, 17 June 2014 (PDT)
::::::::By the way that blog link now has some kind of notice saying that the author is going to stop writing responses for now and write better responses later on. He says (the username is ' .. guy', so) that some of our error sections that he addressed were removed or edited in reaction to his content and I dont think thats true. If he's watching he's most welcome to create a user account and join this discussion.
::::::::As for revisions/deletions/additions, we have always improved our work and that's a good thing for any kind of work.
::::::::He also implies that we inserted the "under construction" notice recently or in reaction to his blog's content but we did it in [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an&diff=103064&oldid=103063 January] (6 months ago) before this blog was noticed and I think it has been on that page before as well. I doubt he'll make these corrections as he probably wants his readers to believe what he originally said (that makes his blog look better).
::::::::Here's another 'rebuttal' link [http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/faithfreedom-wikiislam] on another site/forum.
::::::::You can see why its critical to have this page in the best shape possible. In my opinion none of these rebuttals have really addressed the errors but they may still have content that can be used to improve our page(s). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:49, 29 June 2014 (PDT)

Hey Guys,

I think you have completely misunderstood my recent blog post regarding halting replies to articles written on this site. I will reply to some of the points made:

:"By the way that blog link now has some kind of notice saying that the author is going to stop writing responses for now and write better responses later on. He says (the username is ' .. guy', so) that some of our error sections that he addressed were removed or edited in reaction to his content and I dont think thats true. If he's watching he's most welcome to create a user account and join this discussion."

Over-time you have removed, rewritten alot of the page. Removing many sections that I wrote responses to. Im not claiming this is due to my work solely - I think it is more in relation to you guys realising how weak and lack luster many of the points were on that article.

:"By the way that blog link now has some kind of notice saying that the author is going to stop writing responses for now and write better responses later on. He says (the username is ' .. guy', so) that some of our error sections that he addressed were removed or edited in reaction to his content and I dont think thats true. If he's watching he's most welcome to create a user account and join this discussion."

Im really unsure where I implied this? After recieving traffic from this page. I realised your discussion regarding the blog. So I checked out the page and found it to have this editing title and noticed large changes to the page. Hence I paid a post detailing I wont be analysing the work until it is 100% finished.

Hope this clears up any misunderstanding guys.

Also forgive me. I dont know how to correctly post on this site. Feel free to clean it up if you guys can.

--[[User:ThatMuslimGuy|ThatMuslimGuy]] ([[User talk:ThatMuslimGuy|talk]]) 15:20, 1 July 2014 (PDT)
::Hi, welcome. You can use colons to indent lines. Indeed over time we have revised (that includes revision/removal/addition) this page a lot to improve it. Its an important page and its a work in progress like everything else on the site. Which sections were removed or edited that had been responded to on your blog?
:::''I think it is more in relation to you guys realising how weak and lack luster many of the points were on that article.''
::Again its a work in progress like any other page and we try to make all the content stronger with time and the reason for that revision can be scrutiny/afterthought that we have ourselves or that closer look may come from outside. Some errors are more obvious than others (this is expected). This dialogue can help us strengthen our page. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 18:12, 1 July 2014 (PDT)

:::: No this is good. And I commend you for going through the articles and rewriting them.-- [[User:ThatMuslimGuy|ThatMuslimGuy]] ([[User talk:ThatMuslimGuy|talk]]) 18:42, 1 July 2014 (PDT)
:::::Ok and we look forward to seeing your new revised materials as well.
:::::Have you thought of contacting other Islamic rebuttal websites and starting an apologetics wiki to coordinate the rebuttals? I say this because from my perspective ultimately such an initiative will help our site (in the long run) and for your perspective this is something you would probably want.
:::::Originally I had the idea of having apologetics on our site (for example this article [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an_(Response)] which is linked at the bottom of the main Errors page) but that idea didnt take off fully and now I think its better to have those things off-site so the apologetics can manage their material any way they want and we can still exchange links. You probably need a good domain name first. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 01:35, 2 July 2014 (PDT)
::::::Who is on whose side? Lol. It begins with the lies that we made drastic changes in the scientific errors article and put the review notice because of that blog. Barely one or two sentences we added because of it. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 12:10, 2 July 2014 (PDT)
:::::::Competition doesnt scare me and it will motivate people on our side to do even better. We have it very easy already and we dont have the burden of defending Islam.
:::::::But indeed the blog's claims are misleading and they do suggest as I mentioned to ThatMuslimGuy before that they are written to make the reader believe we changed/removed stuff in reaction to the blog which is not true. In any case one of the claim made is:
::::::::"I recently noticed that WikiIslam has updated there "Scientific Errors Page" with the following:"
:::::::As mentioned we had that notice since a long time and he would have noticed that template even before because he has been writing some rebuttals since a long time (I believe some of his rebuttals are dated a while back). He only created that notice after I mentioned the blog link to you.
:::::::The other claim made on the blog is:
::::::::"So far they have removed various areas - some of which I addressed."
:::::::I have asked him twice to tell us what areas we removed or edited and he hasn't responded and until he does that and is specific about which areas/sections/errors he's talking about he cannot make the claim that the areas, some of which he addressed were removed or edited.
:::::::So ThatMuslimGuy, can you support your claim by telling us which sections that you addressed on your blog were removed? Here's a link to the [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an&offset=&limit=250&action=history page history.] You can use the Diff links to go back in time to show you older versions of the page. You can give us Diff links and tell us which sections you're talking about. Here's one example of a Diff link. [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an&diff=107485&oldid=107473 Diff] link or you can just copy paste the URL(s) here. [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Adverse_Effects_of_Islamic_Fasting Happy Ramadan.] (a favorite article of mine) --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 15:18, 2 July 2014 (PDT)

::::::::: Hey guys, In the past yeah we have thought about doing that. Saggy - Removing multiple points on the site, rewriting sections, adding additions etc - I would say is big change to the article, In my post no where have I asserted you changed the article because of me or anything alike. I simply detailed that I recently checked out the page and that you had added that on the top of the page and removed some points, some of which I had written about, hence rendering those posts on my blog now void.

:::::::::I think you seriously reading to much into the post. I simply realised you were editing the page. Hence I thought id give you guys time to rewrite it - add additions etc- then later address it. Instead of addressing things which may be changed or removed later.

:::::::::You removed - Night Time Cold is Caused by the Moon [http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/re-quran-scientific-error-night-time.html]] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an&oldid=90145#Night_time_cold_is_caused_by_the_Moon]

:::::::::You removed - the Universe contracting according to the Quran [http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/is-universe-contracting-according-to.html] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an&oldid=90145#The_Universe_is_contracting]

:::::::::You reworded this - How Many Planets are in the solar system according to the Quran? [http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/re-wikiislam-quran-scientific-error-how.html] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an&oldid=90145#How_many_planets_in_the_solar_system_according_to_the_Quran.3F] to Seven Planets in the Universe.

:::::::::etc

:::::::::Im never claiming you removed them because of my blog. Im simply stating you removed them - some of which I wrote articles on - hence rendering them void.
:::::::::--[[User:ThatMuslimGuy|ThatMuslimGuy]] ([[User talk:ThatMuslimGuy|talk]]) 18:36, 2 July 2014 (PDT)
::::::::::''" In the past yeah we have thought about doing that. "'' - I say make it happen. Have you thought of a domain name?
::::::::::Alright thats what I was looking for, the blog post links and the diffs - thanks much. We'll look into them. Are there any more? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:23, 2 July 2014 (PDT)
:::::::::::: I dont think so. I think the others wordings have just changed. People discussed it before: [http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1024.msg4792.html#msg4792] But the idea died. --[[User:ThatMuslimGuy|ThatMuslimGuy]] ([[User talk:ThatMuslimGuy|talk]]) 19:42, 2 July 2014 (PDT)
:::::::::::::I'm thinking at least some of the ones that were removed were added by Saggy (he has been asked by people not to add any errors that arent obvious, hence I made this set of [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Talk:Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#.5BSticky.5D_Instructions_for_editing_this_page guidelines] on the talk page). But thats ok, all editors make mistakes (including myself) or may have different perspectives. He's done some good work in finding hadiths and verses and he's passionate and interested about the topic. He made this page on the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Hadith Scientific errors in Hadiths] (a sample error: [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Hadith#Black_cumin_cures_all_diseases "black cumin cures everything"]), and some other pages.
:::::::::::::You should follow up with the idea you were discussing with your friends. Sounds like some progress was being made. Take control of it, get advice and give it your best shot. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 20:01, 2 July 2014 (PDT)
::::::::::::::Why dont you try to rebutt some of the more obvious errors such as [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#Stars_are_Located_in_the_Nearest_Heaven Stars are Located in the Nearest Heaven], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#Earth_Created_before_Stars Earth Created before Stars], [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#Humans_Created_in_Paradise_and_then_Brought_to_Earth Humans Created in Paradise and then Brought to Earth] which is explored in detail at: [[Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Creation]] <---- This is a huge glaring Scientific error (evolution). etc. So start with the most difficult errors if you really believe Quran has no errors. Saying they're figures of speech is not a defense.
::::::::::::::We'll look at the ones you pointed out and I can assure you they were not removed in reaction to your blog but as we were reviewing them ourselves. There are some others that were removed/revised which are not on your blog. We have done such revisions all the time and not just recently. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 03:05, 3 July 2014 (PDT)

:::::::::::::::: Will do - Some of those are the most weakest ones. --[[User:ThatMuslimGuy|ThatMuslimGuy]] ([[User talk:ThatMuslimGuy|talk]]) 03:46, 3 July 2014 (PDT)
:::::::::::::::::I doubt the most obvious errors will ever be responded to (remember to deal with Creationism and Evolution as you know that is a major issue for science) and after that there will be a vast amount of [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Site_Map other content] to deal with. Good luck. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 04:05, 3 July 2014 (PDT)

== Reviews ==

I have to tell you that currently I do not have the time to review your additions. So if they're significant, please add them to your Sandbox pages so they can be reviewed at the same time later on. You can continue doing minor additions where a review doesn't take a long time. If its anything I have to analyze it has to go in the sandbox page. Sorry about that but I just do not currently have the time to review these things one at a time and check if they are accurate or if they have any problems.

Just create as many Sandbox pages as you like so you can organize all your additions. Add notes there where they should be added on the target page etc. Here's [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Science_and_the_Seven_Earths&diff=107921&oldid=103980 one] that you just added. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 19:54, 22 June 2014 (PDT)
::When will you get time? Besides you spent at least 10 minutes yesterday. How long does it take to review that an apologist is contradicting the quran itself (this is not even like my error claims)? If I gather all errors in my sandbox, one day you will have to spend an a lot more time than you get per day right now. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 11:23, 23 June 2014 (PDT)
:::Forgot to reply. At least for me its easier and more efficient mentally to deal with multiple similar issues at the same time instead of one at a time with long breaks in between them. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 09:51, 2 July 2014 (PDT)

== 72 Virgins ==

I'm still trying to figure out what the point of [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=72_Virgins&diff=prev&oldid=109201 this] edit was, and how it was supposed to be connected to [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Talk:72_Jungfrauen this] rant by a fly-by anonymous German. The German guy is only complaining about how he thinks the German ''language'' in that section is linguistically incorrect. In that case, the German translator should probably be asked to comment or the talk page should be deleted (if they have no intention of fixing the alleged problem, then their complaint is nothing more than a rant). Instead you make some linguistically incorrect additions of your own to the English version and claim "I corrected the English side"? Really? The point of that western dhimmi author is that the Bible does not claim that after death Christians will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds, just like how she wants us to believe the Qur'an does not claim that after death Muslims will be issued with virgins. Our point is her analogy is faulty because the Qur'an ''does'' state that after death Muslims will be issued with virgins. Since Revelation 14:2 does not state anywhere that Christians will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds, the addition was pointless and is counter-productive to the purpose of the article. The probable origin of ideas is irrelevant information and only serves to water-down and confuse the articulated and concise approach of the article. Your other edit to [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Revelational_Circumstances_of_the_Qur%27an%3A_Missing_Verses&diff=109206&oldid=109200 Revelational Circumstances of the Qur'an] was also faulty, in that Tabari is not a part of "the major Hadith collections" (all other sources such as tafsirs etc., were purposely excluded by Sani because they are not as authoritative as the major Hadith collections and tend to contain apologetic opinions). The fact that this series only quotes major Hadith collections is stated quite clearly on its main page, but you seem to be making additions without fully understanding why or what you are editing. Please can you explain your edits or at least try to be more careful in the future. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 02:27, 11 August 2014 (PDT)
:The woman overlooked that Quran makes the claim but Bible does not. The image of a heavener with a harp is at best a pop culture thing derived from that verse. The sentence is still too weird. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:48, 11 August 2014 (PDT)
::She did not overlook it. That was exactly her point. She is claiming Muslims view the idea of virgins in heaven much the same as Christians view wings and a harp i.e. it's a made-up thing that no practising Christian actually believes. Okay, so you think that sentence is "weird", but that does not explain why you think adding pointless trivia to the page is "fixing it", nor does it explain why you think your edit made it less "weird" (if it wasn't linguistically weird to begin with, it certainly was afterwards). We are not contesting her claim that the wings and harp thing is a myth because she is right, so there is nothing more needed to be said about that. What we are doing is pointing out ''how'' she is wrong.[[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 07:22, 11 August 2014 (PDT)

== QHS edits ==

Your edit here [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Animals&diff=prev&oldid=109252]. This is Ritual slaughter. It applies to all Abrahamic religions. I agree killing an animal with a knife like this is painful for the animal but the animal's meat is consumed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sacrifice#Abrahamic_traditions.

So tell me why those hadiths should stay here and how they fit with the other content of the page.

For the 2nd edit, [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Cosmology&diff=109253&oldid=109212]

This belongs in Creationism more than it does in Cosmology. Is there anything specific about cosmology mentioned in that quote? Plus this quote has round brackets '(' and you've used double triangular brackets '<'.

So can you explain? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 22:01, 14 August 2014 (PDT)
::He did it in large numbers. Thats all I want to show, whether it is for food or fun. There is also some kindness to a animals hadith that does not fit in.
::Some uterus is attached to that throne. It will react on Judgement Day and so on. Often this cosmology and creation are seen to have some things overlaping like creation of throne, sun, moon stars and heavens, (but not creation of Adam ). So you want it in creation? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 23:32, 14 August 2014 (PDT)
:::You are the boss. I am a nobody. So I will edit my sandbox. What am I going to do with a sandbox out of this site? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 03:26, 15 August 2014 (PDT)
::::I will also post it to the tasks. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 03:37, 15 August 2014 (PDT)

::::: The site's quality is the first priority and must be preserved (so it doesn't matter who the boss is - we are all bosses and it depends whose arguments makes sense). I am a nobody too just like you and I will consult with Sahab to decide on this. Looking at it rationally, the problem is that I don't have time to review a regular editor's edits every time and many of yours edits need to be seriously corrected and require a lot of time for correction. If all of someone's edits require serious evaluation it wouldnt be a problem unless there was someone willing to evaluate the edits who had the time to do it.
:::::''"He did it in large numbers."'' - what large numbers? The hadith only say "many camels". Many camels could be 6, 10, 15, 30 -- we dont know. So what do you mean by large numbers and how do you prove it? If there were a large number of people to feed, 20 camels could be slaughtered and that would be considered "many" or "large numbers".
:::::No as I said, the Tafsir quote has nothing specific to do with Cosmology; nothing about Stars, skies, universe etc. It leaves one wondering what it has to do with cosmology. ''"Often this cosmology and creation are seen to have some things"'' - this is your interpretation. If creationism is linked we can then copy all the Creation hadiths into Cosmology which doesnt make any sense. I will wait for Sahab's input before commenting further. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 04:51, 15 August 2014 (PDT)
::::::I know what he's likely to say. So I think you should add it to creation and forget the first one. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:34, 15 August 2014 (PDT)
:::::::I think the edit Saggy made to [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Animals&diff=prev&oldid=109252#Sacrifices Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Animals] is a very good addition to the page. Ritual slaughter is described in all Abrahamic texts, but there are several differences here in comparison to the other two big faiths:

:::::::1. Concerning Christians, they do not perform ritual slaughter, nor did Jesus ever perform a ritual slaughter.
:::::::2. Concerning Jews, yes they do perform ritual slaughter, but they do not go around telling people that Moses loved animals and that he is an excellent role-model for today's socially conscientious youth.
:::::::3. On the other hand, a lot of apologists do try to convert young people to Islam by trying to sell the idea that Muhammad was a progressive man who loved animals.

:::::::So, considering the above, it is very relevant in the QHS:Animals page to quote proof that Muhammad not only ordered the ritual slaughter of animals, but also partook in it himself.

:::::::I also agree with Saggy that the "kindness to animals" hadith do not fit in with that page. I certainly did not add them and I do not think they should remain. A section like that does not belong on a wiki critical of Islam. If it was added with the intention of making the wiki appear more "neutral" then I can safely say that it will ''never'' convince anyone that the wiki is neutral, but it does make the page look odd and will probably confuse people.

:::::::I think the edit Saggy made to [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Cosmology&diff=109253&oldid=109212 Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Cosmology] does not belong in the Creation page (it is too vague for that and the Creation page is very specific), but it can be squeezed in with cosmology because it describes Allah's "Throne" etc. In all honesty though, I would just remove that last edit by Saggy and move it to a temp page until somewhere more suited is found (I don't think it really talks about cosmology or creation in a very coherent way). Or at the very least, keep it on the cosmology page but trim it down to only include the relevant information (e.g., as Saggy noted, "Some uterus is attached to that throne. It will react on Judgement Day and so on.").

:::::::About the triangular brackets; I'm guessing they are there because Saggy copy/pasted text from Answering Islam. This is a concern to me. The last time we had an editor who got carried away with copy/pasting stuff from there, things didn't turn out so well (It was this by OsmanHassan that left us with those Errors pages in such a mess). If you are not going to bother removing the emphasis added by the Answering Islam team (such as brackets, underlining and caps) you really should not be using them.

:::::::Another concern is the fact that the tafsir is not being cited properly. ''Ibn Kathir, "Interpretation of Qur'an 47:22"'' is not a reference. If an online version of Tafsir Ibn Kathir is going to quoted, then it should be cited more like [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Creation#Ibn_Kathir_2 this] (Not exactly an up-to-date example of a reference because it does not use any CiteWeb templates. Nevertheless, notice the archived URL and the actual heading of each section provided in the tafsir being quoted).

:::::::At Saggy: What does "I know what he's likely to say" mean? Honestly, I would really like to know what you think you know, because I highly doubt you know what I'm going to say. I'll admit I usually think you edits should be removed. But that is because they are usually terrible. In this case, they are not wholly terrible (in the first case, it was actually a good addition and a good observation concerning the "Kindness" hadith). [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 03:51, 16 August 2014 (PDT)
::::::::Ok. I added back the Sacrifice hadiths and took out the kindness section. Maybe those reasons could be added to those sections (just a suggestion). Thanks for the analysis. I agree care should be taken if copying stuff from Answering-Islam.
::::::::Saggy, you can move the Cosmology stuff to the temp page as directed by Sahab or trim it down as suggested.
::::::::Well guys I dont know if I can keep up with the edit reviews but I'll try my best. I had suggested to Saggy that he should keep his edits in his Sandbox pages and maybe one day we can find someone willing who has the time to review them. I am operating in a minimum maintenance mode and even [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAxius&diff=109285&oldid=109250 that] is a challenge for me. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 10:31, 16 August 2014 (PDT)
:::::::::No probs. I don't think any additional text would be needed. As it is, it lets the readers know that Mo had no problems with animal slaughter without making judgements on it or bringing up other faiths. If we did bring up other faiths, then it would look like we're defending them (just think of Natassia and the problems her writings have caused on the wiki recently). With the exception of a few major tu quoque arguments which inhibit the criticism of Islam, that is something the wiki is not here to do. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:43, 16 August 2014 (PDT)
::::::::::Ok. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 09:02, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
::::::::::What is this Natassia tangle? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 11:48, 16 August 2014 (PDT)
:Saggy, please fix the reference style in this edit [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Cosmology&diff=prev&oldid=109291] as Sahab mentioned above.
:Sahab also said to you ''"I usually think you[r] edits should be removed. But that is because they are usually terrible."'' I agree with Sahab, adding that its too much work reviewing your edits and fixing them and currently no one is available to do that. So I'm sorry but from now please only edit Sandboxes in your userspace (no main space edits, or edits on Sandboxes for the site). You can edit your Sandboxes in any way you like and organize your content in whatever way you like and you can also make new pages in your Sandboxes.
:''"What am I going to do with a sandbox out of this site?"'' - what do you mean by this? You can work on the sandboxes and hopefully one day someone will come by and take your edits from there and merge them into main space articles where necessary. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 09:02, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
::Sahab I'm guessing you wouldn't have a problem with Saggy's edits to the mainspace being disallowed. I dont have enough time to review the edits of a regular editor who has problems with most of their edits (as you said above and I agreed with it). Unless you're willing to review them and I'm guessing you dont have enough time as well.
::To anyone else: I'm sorry but the top priority is to maintain the quality of the site and if anyone is willing to review Saggy's edits let me know and we can make that arrangement. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 13:29, 21 August 2014 (PDT)
:::No, I don't have the time to do that. Sorry Ax. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 19:02, 21 August 2014 (PDT)

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Characteristics of Non-Muslims

2014-08-24T23:06:09Z

PW. Jansen: /* Non-Muslims have a Disease in their Hearts */ addition of 74:31 as agreed with Sahab

{{QuranHadithScholarsIndex}}
==Qur'an==

===Non-Muslims are Arrogant and Divided===
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|2}}|Nay, but those who disbelieve are in false pride and schism.}}

===Non-Muslims are Vain===
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|19|73|end=74|style=ref}} |
When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, the Unbelievers say to those who believe, "Which of the two sides is best in point of position? Which makes the best show in council?" 
But how many (countless) generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye? }}

===Non-Muslims are Close-Minded===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. 
There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|47|23|end=24|style=ref}} |
Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. 
Do they not then earnestly seek to understand the Qur'an, or are their hearts locked up by them? }}

===Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb and Blind===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|171}}|The likeness of those who disbelieve is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry; deaf, dumb, blind -- they do not understand.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|25}}|Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|23}}|Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. }}

===Non-Muslims are Evil===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|10}}|In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|254}}|O ye who believe! spend of that wherewith We have provided you ere a day come when there will be no trafficking, nor friendship, nor intercession. The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|45}}|And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|62|5}}|The similitude of those who were charged with the (obligations of the) Mosaic Law, but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not). Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of God: and God guides not people who do wrong.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|55}}|Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion - the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state), after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace: 'They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me. 'If any do reject Faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|5}}|No plea had they, when Our terror came unto them, save that they said: Lo! We were wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|27}}|O Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you as he caused your (first) parents to go forth from the Garden and tore off from them their robe (of innocence) that he might manifest their shame to them. Lo! he seeth you, he and his tribe, from whence ye see him not. Lo! '''We have made the devils protecting friends for those who believe not.'''}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|177}}|Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls.}}

===Non-Muslims are Greedy===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|96}}|And you will most certainly find them the greediest of men for life (greedier) than even those who are polytheists; every one of them loves that he should be granted a life of a thousand years, and his being granted a long life will in no way remove him further off from the chastisement, and Allah sees what they do.}}

===Non-Muslims are Unjust===
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|49}}|Nay, here are Signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our Signs. }}

===Non-Muslims are Like Animals===

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|176}}|If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|65}}|And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|166}}|When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|44}}|Or thinkest thou that most of them listen or understand? They are only like cattle; - nay, they are worse astray in Path.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}| For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}|Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|74|49|50}}| Then what is the matter with them that they turn away from admonition? 

As if they were affrighted asses}}

===Non-Muslims are Perverse===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|30}}|And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|63|4}}|When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!}}

===Non-Muslims have a Disease in their Hearts===

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realise (it) not! 
In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves). }}

{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|51|end=52|style=ref}}|
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|50}}|Is it that there is a disease in their hearts? or do they doubt, or are they in fear, that Allah and His Messenger will deal unjustly with them? Nay, it is they themselves who do wrong. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}|And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this ?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unclean===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|28}}|O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.}}

===Non-Muslims are Impure===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|41}}|O Messenger. let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, "If ye are given his, take it, but if not, beware!" If any one's trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah. For such - it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. }}

===Non-Muslims are Hard-hearted===
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|22}}|Is one whose heart God has opened to Islam, so that he has received Enlightenment from God, (no better than one hard-hearted)? Woe to those whose hearts are hardened against celebrating the praises of God! they are manifestly wandering (in error)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}|Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unintelligent===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|65}}|O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, '''because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.'''}}

===Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|22}}|For the vilest beasts in God's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who understand not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|For the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who reject Him: They will not believe.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|95|4|6}}| We have indeed created man in the best of moulds, Then do We abase him (to be) the lowest of the low,- Except such as believe and do righteous deeds: For they shall have a reward unfailing.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|98|6}}|Verily those who believe not, among those who have received the scriptures, and among the idolaters, [shall be cast] into the fire of hell, to remain therein [for ever]. These are the worst of creatures.}}

===Non-Muslims are Losers===

{{Quote|{{Quran|3|85}}|And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|27}}|Who break the covenant of Allah after its confirmation and cut asunder what Allah has ordered to be joined, and make mischief in the land; these it is that are the losers. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|121}}|Those to whom We have given the Book read it as it ought to be read. These believe in it; and whoever disbelieves in it, these it is that are the losers.}}

==See Also==

{{Hub4|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)}}

[[Category:QHS]]

User talk:PW. Jansen

2014-08-22T09:08:09Z

PW. Jansen: /* "Pray to Muhammad" */

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Characteristics of Non-Muslims

2014-08-22T06:30:25Z

PW. Jansen: /* Qur'an */ Marked the doubly mentioned verses with an *, and copied some verses to the Allah section.

{{QuranHadithScholarsIndex}}
==Qur'an==
Remark: the verses marked with an * are mentioned earlier on this page.
===Non-Muslims===
====Non-Muslims are Arrogant and Divided====
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|2}}|Nay, but those who disbelieve are in false pride and schism.}}

====Non-Muslims are Vain====
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|19|73|end=74|style=ref}} |
When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, the Unbelievers say to those who believe, "Which of the two sides is best in point of position? Which makes the best show in council?" 
But how many (countless) generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye? }}

====Non-Muslims are Close-Minded====

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. 
There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|47|23|end=24|style=ref}} |
Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. 
Do they not then earnestly seek to understand the Qur'an, or are their hearts locked up by them? }}

====Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb and Blind====
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|171}}|The likeness of those who disbelieve is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry; deaf, dumb, blind -- they do not understand.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|25}}|Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|23}}|* Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. }}

====Non-Muslims are Evil====

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|10}}|* In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|254}}|O ye who believe! spend of that wherewith We have provided you ere a day come when there will be no trafficking, nor friendship, nor intercession. The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|45}}|And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|62|5}}|The similitude of those who were charged with the (obligations of the) Mosaic Law, but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not). Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of God: and God guides not people who do wrong.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|55}}|Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion - the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state), after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace: 'They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me. 'If any do reject Faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|5}}|No plea had they, when Our terror came unto them, save that they said: Lo! We were wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|27}}|O Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you as he caused your (first) parents to go forth from the Garden and tore off from them their robe (of innocence) that he might manifest their shame to them. Lo! he seeth you, he and his tribe, from whence ye see him not. Lo! '''We have made the devils protecting friends for those who believe not.'''}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|177}}|Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls.}}

====Non-Muslims are Greedy====

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|96}}|And you will most certainly find them the greediest of men for life (greedier) than even those who are polytheists; every one of them loves that he should be granted a life of a thousand years, and his being granted a long life will in no way remove him further off from the chastisement, and Allah sees what they do.}}

====Non-Muslims are Unjust====
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|49}}|Nay, here are Signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our Signs. }}

====Non-Muslims are Like Animals====

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|176}}|If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|65}}|And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|166}}|When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|44}}|Or thinkest thou that most of them listen or understand? They are only like cattle; - nay, they are worse astray in Path.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}| For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}|Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|74|49|50}}| Then what is the matter with them that they turn away from admonition? 

As if they were affrighted asses}}

====Non-Muslims are Perverse====

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|30}}|And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|63|4}}|When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!}}

====Non-Muslims have a Disease in their Hearts====

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |* Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realise (it) not! 
In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves). }}

{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|51|end=52|style=ref}}|
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|50}}|Is it that there is a disease in their hearts? or do they doubt, or are they in fear, that Allah and His Messenger will deal unjustly with them? Nay, it is they themselves who do wrong. }}

====Non-Muslims are Unclean====

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|28}}|O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.}}

====Non-Muslims are Impure====
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|41}}|O Messenger. let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, "If ye are given his, take it, but if not, beware!" If any one's trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah. For such - it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. }}

====Non-Muslims are Hard-hearted====
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|22}}|Is one whose heart God has opened to Islam, so that he has received Enlightenment from God, (no better than one hard-hearted)? Woe to those whose hearts are hardened against celebrating the praises of God! they are manifestly wandering (in error)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}|Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}

====Non-Muslims are Unintelligent====

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|65}}|O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, '''because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.'''}}

====Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures====

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|22}}|For the vilest beasts in God's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who understand not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|For the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who reject Him: They will not believe.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|95|4|6}}| We have indeed created man in the best of moulds, Then do We abase him (to be) the lowest of the low,- Except such as believe and do righteous deeds: For they shall have a reward unfailing.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|98|6}}|Verily those who believe not, among those who have received the scriptures, and among the idolaters, [shall be cast] into the fire of hell, to remain therein [for ever]. These are the worst of creatures.}}

====Non-Muslims are Losers====

{{Quote|{{Quran|3|85}}|And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|27}}|Who break the covenant of Allah after its confirmation and cut asunder what Allah has ordered to be joined, and make mischief in the land; these it is that are the losers. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|121}}|Those to whom We have given the Book read it as it ought to be read. These believe in it; and whoever disbelieves in it, these it is that are the losers.}}

===Allah on Non-Muslims===

====Allah does not Love Non-Muslims====
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|32}}| Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger": But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|38}}| Verily Allah will defend (from ill) those who believe: verily, Allah loveth not any that is a traitor to faith, or show ingratitude. }}

====Allah will made their deeds Fruitless and will bring Destruction on Them====
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|47|8|end=10|style=ref}} | But those who reject ((Allah)),- for them is destruction, and ((Allah)) will render their deeds astray (from their mark). That is because they hate the Revelation of Allah. so He has made their deeds fruitless. Do they not travel through the earth, and see what was the End of those before them (who did evil)? Allah brought utter destruction on them, and similar (fates await) those who reject Allah. }}

====Allah does not guide them====
{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|51|end=52|style=ref}}| * O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts. }}

====Allah has Cursed Them====
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|88}}| They say, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah's Word: we need no more)." Nay, Allah's curse is on them for their blasphemy: Little is it they believe. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|* Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.}}
{{quote | {{cite quran|47|23|end=24|style=ref}} | * Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. 
Do they not then earnestly seek to understand the Qur'an, or are their hearts locked up by them? }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|6}}| And that He may punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Polytheists men and women, who imagine an evil opinion of Allah. On them is a round of Evil: the Wrath of Allah is on them: He has cursed them and got Hell ready for them: and evil is it for a destination. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|63|4}}|* When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!}}

====Allah Despises and Rejects Them====
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|17|17|end=18|style=ref}} | How many generations have We destroyed after Noah? and enough is thy Lord to note and see the sins of His servants. 
If any do wish for the transitory things (of this life), We readily grant them - such things as We will, to such person as We will: in the end have We provided Hell for them; they will burn therein, disgraced and rejected. }}

====Allah will Disgrace Them====
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|18}}| Seest thou not that to Allah bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens and on earth: the sun, the moon, the stars; the hills, the trees, the animals; and a great number among mankind? But a great number are (also) such as are fit for Punishment: and such as Allah shall disgrace,- None can raise to honour: for Allah carries out all that He wills. }}

====Allah sees them as the worst of beasts====
{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|* For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe. }}

====Allah will not purify their hearts====
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|41}}|* O Messenger. let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, "If ye are given his, take it, but if not, beware!" If any one's trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah. For such - it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. }}

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==Qur'an, Hadith and Sunnah==

===Understanding Scripture===

====Abrogation====

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|106}}|None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|13|39}}|Allah doth blot out or confirm what He pleaseth: with Him is the Mother of the Book.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|101}}|And when We change (one) communication for (another) communication, and Allah knows best what He reveals, they say: You are only a forger. Nay, most of them do not know.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|3|675}}|The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) abrogated some of his commands by others, '''just as the Qur'an abrogates''' some part with the other.}}

See related: [[Abrogation]]

====The Qur'an is Easy to Understand====

{{Quote|{{Quran|44|58}}|Verily, We have made this (Qur'an) easy, in thy tongue, in order that they may give heed.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|54|17}}|And '''We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand''' and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?|See also: {{Quran|54|22}}, {{Quran|54|32}}, and {{Quran|54|40}}}}

====Muslims Should Not Incorrectly Interpret Scripture====

Anyone interpreting the verses beyond their obvious meaning is misguided

{{Quote|{{Quran|3|7}}|He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; '''then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and ''seeking to give it (their own) interpretation.''''' but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding.}}

===Hadith and Sunnah===

The Sunnah is an integral part of Islam.

====Pray to Muhammad====
One wonders, who answers Allah's prayers.
{{Quote|{{Quran|33|56}}|Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect. }}

====Emulate Muhammad====

{{quote | {{cite quran|3|131|end=132|style=ref}} | Fear the Fire, which is repaired for those who reject Faith: 
And obey Allah and the Messenger; that ye may obtain mercy.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|59}}|O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end.}}
{{quote | {{cite quran|4|64|end=66|style=ref}} | And We did not send any messenger but that he should be obeyed by Allah's permission; and had they, when they were unjust to themselves, come to you and asked forgiveness of Allah and the Messenger had (also) asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah Oft-returning (to mercy), Merciful. 
But no! by your Lord! they do not believe (in reality) until they make you a judge of that which has become a matter of disagreement among them, and then do not find any straitness in their hearts as to what you have decided and submit with entire submission. 
But no! by your Lord! they do not believe (in reality) until they make you a judge of that which has become a matter of disagreement among them, and then do not find any straitness in their hearts as to what you have decided and submit with entire submission.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|4|69}}|And whoever obeys Allah and the Messenger, these are with those upon whom Allah has bestowed favors from among the prophets and the truthful and the martyrs and the good, and a goodly company are they!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|4|80}}|'''He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah''': But if any turn away, We have not sent thee to watch over their (evil deeds).}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|4|113|end=115|style=ref}} | But for the grace of Allah upon thee (Muhammad), and His mercy, a party of them had resolved to mislead thee, but they will mislead only themselves and they will hurt thee not at all. Allah revealeth unto thee the Scripture and wisdom, and teacheth thee that which thou knewest not. The grace of Allah toward thee hath been infinite. 
There is no good in much of their secret conferences save (in) him who enjoineth almsgiving and kindness and peace-making among the people. Whoso doeth that, seeking the good pleasure of Allah, We shall bestow on him a vast reward. 
And whoso opposeth the messenger after the guidance (of Allah) hath been manifested unto him, and followeth other than the believer's way, We appoint for him that unto which he himself hath turned, and expose him unto hell - a hapless journey's end!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|92}}|Obey Allah and obey the messenger, and beware! But if ye turn away, then know that the duty of Our messenger is only plain conveyance (of the message).}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|24}}|O ye who believe! '''Obey Allah, and the messenger when He calleth you to that which quickeneth you''', and know that Allah cometh in between the man and his own heart, and that He it is unto Whom ye will be gathered.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|46}}|And obey Allah and His Messenger; and fall into no disputes, lest ye lose heart and your power depart; and be patient and persevering: For Allah is with those who patiently persevere:}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|21|107}}|We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|53}}|They swear their strongest oaths by Allah that, if only thou wouldst command them, they would leave (their homes). Say: "Swear ye not; Obedience is (more) reasonable; verily, Allah is well acquainted with all that ye do."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|33|21}}|Verily '''in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah''' and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|33|36}}|It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|33}}|'''O ye who believe! Obey Allah and obey the messenger''', and render not your actions vain.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|48|10}}|Lo! those who swear allegiance unto thee (Muhammad), swear allegiance only unto Allah. The Hand of Allah is above their hands. So whosoever breaketh his oath, breaketh it only to his soul's hurt; while whosoever keepeth his covenant with Allah, on him will He bestow immense reward.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|59|7}}|That which Allah giveth as spoil unto His messenger from the people of the townships, it is for Allah and His messenger and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, that it become not a commodity between the rich among you. '''And whatsoever the messenger giveth you, take it. And whatsoever he forbiddeth, abstain (from it).''' And keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is stern in reprisal.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|64|12}}|Obey Allah and obey His messenger; but if ye turn away, then the duty of Our messenger is only to convey (the message) plainly.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|68|4}}|And thou (standest) on an exalted standard of character.}}

====Emulate the Rightly-Guided Caliphs====

{{Quote|[http://www.islamworld.net/docs/nawawi.html#hadith28 Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadith, No. 28]|On the authority of Abu Najih Al-Erbadh bin Sariah, who said :

The messenger of Allah gave us a sermon by which our hearts were filled with fear and tears came to our eyes. We said: "O Messenger of Allah, it is as though this is a farewell sermon, so councel us." He said: "I councel you to fear Allah and to give absolute obedience even if a slave becomes your leader. Verily he among you who lives [long] will see great controversy, so you must keep to my sunnah and to the sunnah of the rightly-guided Khalifahs - cling to them stubbornly. Beware of newly invented matters, for every invented matter is an innovation and every innovation is a going astray, and every going astray is in Hell-fire."

related by Abu Dawud and Al-Tirmithi, who said that it was a fine and true Hadith.}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|56|675}}|Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Amongst the people preceding you there used to be 'Muhaddithun' (i.e. persons who can guess things that come true later on, as if those persons have been inspired by a divine power), and if there are any such persons amongst my followers, it is 'Umar bin Al-Khattab."}}

{{Quote|al-Waqidi|‘Ali: So what is stopping you from asking ‘Umar to make du’a for you? Do you know, Ibn Qurt, that his du’a is never rejected and always reaches Allah and that Rasulullah said in his regard: "Were there to be another prophet after me it would have been ‘Umar." Is he not that man whose decisions corresponded to that of the Quran until Rasulullah said, "Were punishment to fall from the sky to Earth, none would escape it except ‘Umar bin al-Khattab."

Do you not know that Allah revealed clear verses about him? Is he not ascetic, pious and always engaged in worship? Does he not greatly resemble the prophet Nuh? Should he offer du’a on your behalf it would be answered.<ref>Al-Imam al-Waqidi, The Islamic Conquest of Syria, A Translation of [http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/na_debate.htm Futuhusham: The Inspiring History of the Sahabah’s Conquest of Syria], translated by Mawlana Sulayman al-Kindi [Ta-Ha Publishers Ltd., London 2005], Part 3: Al-Yarmuk, pp. 287-288</ref>}}

====Muslims Must Follow the Sunnah====

{{Quote|{{Quran|4|83}}|When there comes to them some matter touching (Public) safety or fear, they divulge it. If they had only referred it to the Messenger, or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have Tested it from them (direct). Were it not for the Grace and Mercy of Allah unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|49|14}}|The wandering Arabs say: We believe. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Ye believe not, but rather say "We submit," for the faith hath not yet entered into your hearts. Yet, if ye obey Allah and His messenger, He will not withhold from you aught of (the reward of) your deeds. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.}}

{{Quote||Abdullah bin Amar (ra) relates that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one." The companions asked, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "They are those who will be like me and my companions." (Hadith unverified)}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|40|4579}}|Narrated Abu Hurayrah (ra): The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: The Jews were split up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects; and the Christians were split up into seventy one or seventy-two sects; and my community will be split up into seventy-three sects.}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|1|42}}|Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Prophet (peace be upon him) urinated and Umar was standing behind him with a jug of water. He said: What is this, Umar? He replied: Water for you to perform ablution with. He said: I have not been commanded to perform ablution every time I urinate. If I were to do so, it would become a sunnah.}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|10|1794}}|Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: As-Subayy ibn Ma'bad said: I raised my voice in talbiyah for both of them (i.e. umrah and hajj). Thereupon Umar said: You were guided to the practice (sunnah) of your Prophet (peace be upon him).|See also: {{Abu Dawud|10|1795}}}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|18|2879}}|Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Knowledge has three categories; anything else is extra; a precise verse, or an established sunnah (practice), or a firm obligatory duty.}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|24|3585}}|Narrated Mu'adh ibn Jabal: Some companions of Mu'adh ibn Jabal said: When the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) intended to send Mu'adh ibn Jabal to the Yemen, he asked: How will you judge when the occasion of deciding a case arises? He replied: I shall judge in accordance with Allah's Book. He asked: (What will you do) if you do not find any guidance in Allah's Book? He replied: (I shall act) in accordance with the Sunnah of the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him). He asked: (What will you do) if you do not find any guidance in the Sunnah of the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) and in Allah's Book? He replied: I shall do my best to form an opinion and I shall spare no effort. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) then patted him on the breast and said: Praise be to Allah Who has helped the messenger of the Apostle of Allah to find something which pleases the Apostle of Allah.}}

{{Quote|Abu Dawud vol.3 no.4587-4589|In the future beware of people who hold only to the Qur’an and reject the Sunnah.}}

{{Quote|Abu Dawud vol.2 footnote 887|As it is necessary to obey the Qur’an, likewise it is necessary to follow the contents of the hadiths and sunna.}}

{{Quote|Abu Dawud vol.3 no.4595|There is no innovation after the Sunnah is established.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|1|265}}|Hudhaifa reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) narrated to us two ahadith. I have seen one (crystallized into reality), and I am waiting for the other. He told us: Trustworthiness descended in the innermost (root) of the hearts of people. Then the Qur'an was revealed and they learnt from the Qur'an and they learnt from the Sunnah.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|1|292}}|It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed: What would you do when the son of Mary would descend amongst you and would lead you as one amongst you? Ibn Abi Dhi'b on the authority of Abu Huraira narrated: Your leader amongst you. Ibn Abi Dhi'b said: Do you know what the words:" He would lead as one amongst you" mean? I said: Explain these to me. He said: He would lead you according to the Book of your: Lord (hallowed be He and most exalted) and the Sunnah of your Apostle (may peace be upon him).}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|4|1151}}|He ('Umar) further said: Allah! I call You witness on these governors of lands, that I sent them to (the peoples of these lands) so that they should administer justice amongst them, teach them their religion and the Sunnah of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him), and distribute amongst them the spoils of war and refer to me that which they find difficult to perform.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|7|2868}}|Abu Hassan al-A'raj reported that a person from Bani Hujaim said to Ibn 'Abbas (Allah be pleased with them): What is this religious verdict of yours which has engaged the attention of the people or which has become a matter of dispute among them that he who circumambulated the House can be free from Ihram? Thereupon he said: '''That is the Sunnah of your Apostle (may peace be upon him), even though you may not approve of it'''.|See also: {{Muslim|4|1566}}}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|8|3236}}|Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reported that some of the Companions of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) asked his (the Prophet's) wives about the acts that he performed in private. Someone among them (among his Companions) said: I will not marry women; someone among them said: I will not eat meat; and someone among them said: I will not lie down in bed. He (the Holy Prophet) praised Allah and glorified Him, and said: What has happened to these people that they say so and so, whereas I observe prayer and sleep too; I observe fast and suspend observing them; I marry women also? '''And he who turns away from my Sunnah, he has no relation with Me'''}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|9|3524}}|Abu Ishaq reported: I was with al-Aswad b. Yazid sitting in the great mosque, and there was with us al-Sha'bi, and he narrated the narration of Fatima bint Qais (Allah be pleased with her) that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) did not make any provision for lodging and maintenance allowance for her. Al-Aswad caught hold of some pebbles in his fist and he threw them towards him saying: Woe be to thee, you narrate like it, whereas Umar said: We cannot abandon the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of our Apostle (may peace be upon him) for the words of a woman. We do not know whether she remembers that or she forgets. For her, there is a provision of lodging and maintenance allowance. Allah, the Exalted and Majestic, said:" Turn them not from their houses nor should they themselves go forth unless they commit an open indecency" (lxv. 1).}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|31|5948}}|Anas reported that the people of Yemen came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Send with us a person who should teach us Sunnah and al-Islam, whereupon he (the Holy Prophet) caught hold of the hand of Ubaida and said: He is a man of trust of this Umma.|See also: {{Abu Dawud|18|2888}}}}

{{Quote|Sunan Nasa'i, translated by Muhammad Iqbal Siddiqi|The Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad is therefore, next to Qur'an, the second source of Islamic law and social and personal behavior. In fact we must regard the Sunnah as the only valid explanation of the Qur'anic teachings and the only means to avoid dissensions concerning their interpretation and adaptation to practical use. The Messenger of Allah said 'I am leaving you two things amongst you after my death... the one is the Qur'an and the other is my sunnah or Hadith.' Following hadith therefore is as important as following the injunctions of Qur'an, without which the religion of Islam would be incomplete and would create dissensions among the believers.}}

{{Quote|1=[{{Reference archive|1=http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/3440/fabricated%2520hadeeth|2=2012-02-02}} The misguided sect of al-Qur’aaniyyeen] Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid, Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 3440|2=Ahmad, Abu Dawood and al-Haakim reported with a saheeh isnaad from al-Miqdaam that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Soon there will be a time when a man will be reclining on his couch, narrating a hadeeth from me, and he will say, ‘Between us and you is the Book of Allaah: what it says is halaal, we take as halaal, and what it says is haraam, we take as haraam.’ But listen! Whatever the Messenger of Allaah forbids is like what Allaah forbids.” (Al-Fath al-Kabeer, 3/438. Al-Tirmidhi reported it with different wording, and said that it is hasan saheeh. Sunan al-Tirmidhi bi Sharh Ibn al-‘Arabi, al-Saawi edn., 10/132).}}

{{Quote|Ibn Majah Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1846|It was narrated from Aishah that:

the Messenger of Allah said: “Marriage is part of my sunnah, and '''whoever does not follow my sunnah has nothing to do with me'''. Get married, for I will boast of your great numbers before the nations. Whoever has that means, let him get married, and whoever does not, then he should fast for it will diminish his desire.” (Hasan)}}

{{Quote|Ibn Majah Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1989|It was narrated that 'Abdulleh said:

"The Messenger of Allah cursed the woman who does tattoos and the one who has them done, and those who pluck their eyebrows and file their teeth for the purpose of beautification, and those who change the creation of Allah." News of that reached a woman of Banu Asad who was called Umm Ya'qub. She came to him and said: "I have heard that you said such and such." He said: 'Why should I not curse those whom the Messenger of Allah cursed ? '''And it is in the Book of Allah." She said: "I read what is between its two covers 'and I have not found that." He said: "If you read it properly you would have found it. Have you not read the words: 'And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad) gives you, take it; and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it).'?" She said: "Of course." He said: 'The Messenger of Allah forbade that."''' She said: 'I think that your wife does it.' He said: " Go and look." So she went and looked and she did not see what she wanted. She said: "I have not seen anything!’ 'Abdullah said: "If she was as you say, I would not have kept her with me. " (Sahih)}}

====The First 3 Generations of Muslims are the Best Muslims====

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|8|78|652}}|Narrated 'Abdullah:

The Prophet was asked, "Who are the best people?" He replied: The people of my generation, and then those who will follow (come after) them, and then those who will come after the later; after that there will come some people whose witness will precede their oaths and their oaths will go ahead of their witness." Ibrahim (a sub-narrator) said, "When we were young, our elder friends used to prohibit us from taking oaths by saying, 'I bear witness swearing by Allah, or by Allah's Covenant."'}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|31|6159}}|'A'isha reported that a person asked Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as to who amongst the people were the best. He said: Of the generation to which I belong, then of the second generation (generation adjacent to my generation), then of the third generation (generation adjacent to the second generation).}}

====Free Will====

{{Quote|{{Quran|3|19}}|'''Lo! religion with Allah (is) the Surrender (to His Will and Guidance).''' Those who (formerly) received the Scripture differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of Allah (will find that) lo! Allah is swift at reckoning.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|4}}|They ask thee (O Muhammad) what is made lawful for them. Say: (all) good things are made lawful for you. And those beasts and birds of prey which ye have trained as hounds are trained, ye teach them that which Allah taught you; so eat of that which they catch for you and mention Allah's name upon it, and observe your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is swift to take account.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|7}}|Remember Allah's grace upon you and His covenant by which He bound you when ye said: We hear and we obey; And keep your duty to Allah. Lo! He knoweth what is in the breasts (of men).}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|53}}|Say: Pay (your contribution), willingly or unwillingly, it will not be accepted from you. Lo! ye were ever froward folk.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|21}}|Obedience and a civil word. Then, when the matter is determined, if they are loyal to Allah it will be well for them.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|49|16}}|The wandering Arabs say: We believe. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Ye believe not, but rather say "We submit," for the faith hath not yet entered into your hearts. Yet, if ye obey Allah and His messenger, He will not withhold from you aught of (the reward of) your deeds. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|56|57}}|It is We Who have created you: why will ye not witness the Truth?}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|87|10}}|He who fears will mind,}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|52|203}}|Narrated Ibn 'Umar: The 'Prophet said, "It is obligatory for one to listen to and obey (the ruler's orders) unless these orders involve one disobedience (to Allah); but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed, he should not listen to or obey it."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|89|256}}|Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|89|258}}|Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "A Muslim has to listen to and obey (the order of his ruler) whether he likes it or not, as long as his orders involve not one in disobedience (to Allah), but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed one should not listen to it or obey it. (See Hadith No. 203, Vol. 4)}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|92|384}}|Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "All my followers will enter Paradise except those who refuse." They said, "O Allah's Apostle! Who will refuse?" He said, "Whoever obeys me will enter Paradise, and whoever disobeys me is the one who refuses (to enter it)." }}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|20|4604}}|It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. 'Umar who said: We used to take oath to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) that we would listen to and obey his orders. He would tell us (to say in the oath): As far as it lies in my power.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:322|'''Allah said, ‘Do not turn away from Muhammad when he is speaking to you. Do not contradict his orders.''' And do not be a hypocrite, one who pretends to be obedient to him and then disobeys him. Those who do so will receive My vengeance. '''You must respond to the Apostle when he summons you to war.'''}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 182}}|The people assembled in Mecca to swear allegiance to the Messenger in submission. He received from them the oath of allegiance to himself, to heed and obey.}}

===The Qur'an Should Not Fall Into The Hands of Infidels===

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|52|233}}|Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying (copies of) the Quran.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|20|4609}}|It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Do not take the Qur'an on a journey with you, for I am afraid lost it should fall into the hands of the enemy. Ayyub (one of the narrators in the chain of transmitters) said: The enemy may seize it and may quarrel with you over it.|See also: {{Muslim|20|4607}}, and {{Muslim|20|4608}}}}

===Don't Ask Too Many Questions===

{{Quote|1={{Quran|5|101-102}}|2=O ye who believe! '''Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble'''. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}|And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, '''"What symbol doth Allah intend by this ?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth''', and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|26}}|Allah disdains not to use the similitude of things, lowest as well as highest. Those who believe know that it is truth from their Lord; '''but those who reject Faith say: "What means Allah by this similitude?"''' By it He causes many to stray, and many He leads into the right path; but He causes not to stray, except those who forsake (the path),- }}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|2|24|555}}| Narrated Ash-sha'bi:

The clerk of Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba narrated, "Muawiya wrote to Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba: Write to me something which you have heard from the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ." So Al-Mughira wrote: I heard the Prophet saying, "Allah has hated for you three things:

1. Vain talks, (useless talk) that you talk too much or about others.

2. Wasting of wealth (by extravagance)

3. '''And asking too many questions (in disputed religious matters)''' or asking others for something (except in great need). (See Hadith No. 591, Vol. Ill) }}

{{Quote|Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, vol. III, pgs. 76-77|"'''The Holy Prophet himself forbade people to ask questions ...so do not try to probe into such things.'''"}}

{{Quote|1=[http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=5&tid=14747 Unnecessary Questioning is Disapproved of] Tafsir Ibn Kathir|2=(O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble...)." Imam Ahmad recorded that `Ali said, "When this Ayah was revealed,

(And Hajj to the House is a duty that mankind owes to Allah, those who can bear the journey.)[3:97], they asked, `O Allah's Messenger! Is it required every year' He did not answer them, and they asked again, `Is it every year' He still did not answer them, so they asked, `Is it every year' He said,

(No, and had I said `yes', it would have become obligated, and had it become obligated, you would not be able to bear it.) Allah sent down,

(O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.)." At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah also recorded this Hadith. The apparent wording of this Ayah indicates that '''we are forbidden to ask about things that if one has knowledge of, he would be sorry he had asked. Consequently, it is better to avoid such questions'''.}}

==References==
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==Qur'an, Hadith and Sunnah==

===Understanding Scripture===

====Abrogation====

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|106}}|None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|13|39}}|Allah doth blot out or confirm what He pleaseth: with Him is the Mother of the Book.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|16|101}}|And when We change (one) communication for (another) communication, and Allah knows best what He reveals, they say: You are only a forger. Nay, most of them do not know.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|3|675}}|The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) abrogated some of his commands by others, '''just as the Qur'an abrogates''' some part with the other.}}

See related: [[Abrogation]]

====The Qur'an is Easy to Understand====

{{Quote|{{Quran|44|58}}|Verily, We have made this (Qur'an) easy, in thy tongue, in order that they may give heed.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|54|17}}|And '''We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand''' and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?|See also: {{Quran|54|22}}, {{Quran|54|32}}, and {{Quran|54|40}}}}

====Muslims Should Not Incorrectly Interpret Scripture====

Anyone interpreting the verses beyond their obvious meaning is misguided

{{Quote|{{Quran|3|7}}|He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; '''then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and ''seeking to give it (their own) interpretation.''''' but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding.}}

===Hadith and Sunnah===

The Sunnah is an integral part of Islam.

====Emulate Muhammad====

{{quote | {{cite quran|3|131|end=132|style=ref}} | Fear the Fire, which is repaired for those who reject Faith: 
And obey Allah and the Messenger; that ye may obtain mercy.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|4|59}}|O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end.}}
{{quote | {{cite quran|4|64|end=66|style=ref}} | And We did not send any messenger but that he should be obeyed by Allah's permission; and had they, when they were unjust to themselves, come to you and asked forgiveness of Allah and the Messenger had (also) asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah Oft-returning (to mercy), Merciful. 
But no! by your Lord! they do not believe (in reality) until they make you a judge of that which has become a matter of disagreement among them, and then do not find any straitness in their hearts as to what you have decided and submit with entire submission. 
But no! by your Lord! they do not believe (in reality) until they make you a judge of that which has become a matter of disagreement among them, and then do not find any straitness in their hearts as to what you have decided and submit with entire submission.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|4|69}}|And whoever obeys Allah and the Messenger, these are with those upon whom Allah has bestowed favors from among the prophets and the truthful and the martyrs and the good, and a goodly company are they!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|4|80}}|'''He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah''': But if any turn away, We have not sent thee to watch over their (evil deeds).}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|4|113|end=115|style=ref}} | But for the grace of Allah upon thee (Muhammad), and His mercy, a party of them had resolved to mislead thee, but they will mislead only themselves and they will hurt thee not at all. Allah revealeth unto thee the Scripture and wisdom, and teacheth thee that which thou knewest not. The grace of Allah toward thee hath been infinite. 
There is no good in much of their secret conferences save (in) him who enjoineth almsgiving and kindness and peace-making among the people. Whoso doeth that, seeking the good pleasure of Allah, We shall bestow on him a vast reward. 
And whoso opposeth the messenger after the guidance (of Allah) hath been manifested unto him, and followeth other than the believer's way, We appoint for him that unto which he himself hath turned, and expose him unto hell - a hapless journey's end!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|92}}|Obey Allah and obey the messenger, and beware! But if ye turn away, then know that the duty of Our messenger is only plain conveyance (of the message).}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|24}}|O ye who believe! '''Obey Allah, and the messenger when He calleth you to that which quickeneth you''', and know that Allah cometh in between the man and his own heart, and that He it is unto Whom ye will be gathered.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|46}}|And obey Allah and His Messenger; and fall into no disputes, lest ye lose heart and your power depart; and be patient and persevering: For Allah is with those who patiently persevere:}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|21|107}}|We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|53}}|They swear their strongest oaths by Allah that, if only thou wouldst command them, they would leave (their homes). Say: "Swear ye not; Obedience is (more) reasonable; verily, Allah is well acquainted with all that ye do."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|33|21}}|Verily '''in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah''' and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|33|36}}|It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|33}}|'''O ye who believe! Obey Allah and obey the messenger''', and render not your actions vain.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|48|10}}|Lo! those who swear allegiance unto thee (Muhammad), swear allegiance only unto Allah. The Hand of Allah is above their hands. So whosoever breaketh his oath, breaketh it only to his soul's hurt; while whosoever keepeth his covenant with Allah, on him will He bestow immense reward.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|59|7}}|That which Allah giveth as spoil unto His messenger from the people of the townships, it is for Allah and His messenger and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, that it become not a commodity between the rich among you. '''And whatsoever the messenger giveth you, take it. And whatsoever he forbiddeth, abstain (from it).''' And keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is stern in reprisal.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|64|12}}|Obey Allah and obey His messenger; but if ye turn away, then the duty of Our messenger is only to convey (the message) plainly.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|68|4}}|And thou (standest) on an exalted standard of character.}}

====Emulate the Rightly-Guided Caliphs====

{{Quote|[http://www.islamworld.net/docs/nawawi.html#hadith28 Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadith, No. 28]|On the authority of Abu Najih Al-Erbadh bin Sariah, who said :

The messenger of Allah gave us a sermon by which our hearts were filled with fear and tears came to our eyes. We said: "O Messenger of Allah, it is as though this is a farewell sermon, so councel us." He said: "I councel you to fear Allah and to give absolute obedience even if a slave becomes your leader. Verily he among you who lives [long] will see great controversy, so you must keep to my sunnah and to the sunnah of the rightly-guided Khalifahs - cling to them stubbornly. Beware of newly invented matters, for every invented matter is an innovation and every innovation is a going astray, and every going astray is in Hell-fire."

related by Abu Dawud and Al-Tirmithi, who said that it was a fine and true Hadith.}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|56|675}}|Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Amongst the people preceding you there used to be 'Muhaddithun' (i.e. persons who can guess things that come true later on, as if those persons have been inspired by a divine power), and if there are any such persons amongst my followers, it is 'Umar bin Al-Khattab."}}

{{Quote|al-Waqidi|‘Ali: So what is stopping you from asking ‘Umar to make du’a for you? Do you know, Ibn Qurt, that his du’a is never rejected and always reaches Allah and that Rasulullah said in his regard: "Were there to be another prophet after me it would have been ‘Umar." Is he not that man whose decisions corresponded to that of the Quran until Rasulullah said, "Were punishment to fall from the sky to Earth, none would escape it except ‘Umar bin al-Khattab."

Do you not know that Allah revealed clear verses about him? Is he not ascetic, pious and always engaged in worship? Does he not greatly resemble the prophet Nuh? Should he offer du’a on your behalf it would be answered.<ref>Al-Imam al-Waqidi, The Islamic Conquest of Syria, A Translation of [http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/na_debate.htm Futuhusham: The Inspiring History of the Sahabah’s Conquest of Syria], translated by Mawlana Sulayman al-Kindi [Ta-Ha Publishers Ltd., London 2005], Part 3: Al-Yarmuk, pp. 287-288</ref>}}

====Muslims Must Follow the Sunnah====

{{Quote|{{Quran|4|83}}|When there comes to them some matter touching (Public) safety or fear, they divulge it. If they had only referred it to the Messenger, or to those charged with authority among them, the proper investigators would have Tested it from them (direct). Were it not for the Grace and Mercy of Allah unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|49|14}}|The wandering Arabs say: We believe. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Ye believe not, but rather say "We submit," for the faith hath not yet entered into your hearts. Yet, if ye obey Allah and His messenger, He will not withhold from you aught of (the reward of) your deeds. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.}}

{{Quote||Abdullah bin Amar (ra) relates that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one." The companions asked, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "They are those who will be like me and my companions." (Hadith unverified)}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|40|4579}}|Narrated Abu Hurayrah (ra): The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: The Jews were split up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects; and the Christians were split up into seventy one or seventy-two sects; and my community will be split up into seventy-three sects.}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|1|42}}|Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Prophet (peace be upon him) urinated and Umar was standing behind him with a jug of water. He said: What is this, Umar? He replied: Water for you to perform ablution with. He said: I have not been commanded to perform ablution every time I urinate. If I were to do so, it would become a sunnah.}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|10|1794}}|Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: As-Subayy ibn Ma'bad said: I raised my voice in talbiyah for both of them (i.e. umrah and hajj). Thereupon Umar said: You were guided to the practice (sunnah) of your Prophet (peace be upon him).|See also: {{Abu Dawud|10|1795}}}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|18|2879}}|Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Knowledge has three categories; anything else is extra; a precise verse, or an established sunnah (practice), or a firm obligatory duty.}}

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|24|3585}}|Narrated Mu'adh ibn Jabal: Some companions of Mu'adh ibn Jabal said: When the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) intended to send Mu'adh ibn Jabal to the Yemen, he asked: How will you judge when the occasion of deciding a case arises? He replied: I shall judge in accordance with Allah's Book. He asked: (What will you do) if you do not find any guidance in Allah's Book? He replied: (I shall act) in accordance with the Sunnah of the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him). He asked: (What will you do) if you do not find any guidance in the Sunnah of the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) and in Allah's Book? He replied: I shall do my best to form an opinion and I shall spare no effort. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) then patted him on the breast and said: Praise be to Allah Who has helped the messenger of the Apostle of Allah to find something which pleases the Apostle of Allah.}}

{{Quote|Abu Dawud vol.3 no.4587-4589|In the future beware of people who hold only to the Qur’an and reject the Sunnah.}}

{{Quote|Abu Dawud vol.2 footnote 887|As it is necessary to obey the Qur’an, likewise it is necessary to follow the contents of the hadiths and sunna.}}

{{Quote|Abu Dawud vol.3 no.4595|There is no innovation after the Sunnah is established.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|1|265}}|Hudhaifa reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) narrated to us two ahadith. I have seen one (crystallized into reality), and I am waiting for the other. He told us: Trustworthiness descended in the innermost (root) of the hearts of people. Then the Qur'an was revealed and they learnt from the Qur'an and they learnt from the Sunnah.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|1|292}}|It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed: What would you do when the son of Mary would descend amongst you and would lead you as one amongst you? Ibn Abi Dhi'b on the authority of Abu Huraira narrated: Your leader amongst you. Ibn Abi Dhi'b said: Do you know what the words:" He would lead as one amongst you" mean? I said: Explain these to me. He said: He would lead you according to the Book of your: Lord (hallowed be He and most exalted) and the Sunnah of your Apostle (may peace be upon him).}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|4|1151}}|He ('Umar) further said: Allah! I call You witness on these governors of lands, that I sent them to (the peoples of these lands) so that they should administer justice amongst them, teach them their religion and the Sunnah of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him), and distribute amongst them the spoils of war and refer to me that which they find difficult to perform.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|7|2868}}|Abu Hassan al-A'raj reported that a person from Bani Hujaim said to Ibn 'Abbas (Allah be pleased with them): What is this religious verdict of yours which has engaged the attention of the people or which has become a matter of dispute among them that he who circumambulated the House can be free from Ihram? Thereupon he said: '''That is the Sunnah of your Apostle (may peace be upon him), even though you may not approve of it'''.|See also: {{Muslim|4|1566}}}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|8|3236}}|Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reported that some of the Companions of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) asked his (the Prophet's) wives about the acts that he performed in private. Someone among them (among his Companions) said: I will not marry women; someone among them said: I will not eat meat; and someone among them said: I will not lie down in bed. He (the Holy Prophet) praised Allah and glorified Him, and said: What has happened to these people that they say so and so, whereas I observe prayer and sleep too; I observe fast and suspend observing them; I marry women also? '''And he who turns away from my Sunnah, he has no relation with Me'''}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|9|3524}}|Abu Ishaq reported: I was with al-Aswad b. Yazid sitting in the great mosque, and there was with us al-Sha'bi, and he narrated the narration of Fatima bint Qais (Allah be pleased with her) that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) did not make any provision for lodging and maintenance allowance for her. Al-Aswad caught hold of some pebbles in his fist and he threw them towards him saying: Woe be to thee, you narrate like it, whereas Umar said: We cannot abandon the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of our Apostle (may peace be upon him) for the words of a woman. We do not know whether she remembers that or she forgets. For her, there is a provision of lodging and maintenance allowance. Allah, the Exalted and Majestic, said:" Turn them not from their houses nor should they themselves go forth unless they commit an open indecency" (lxv. 1).}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|31|5948}}|Anas reported that the people of Yemen came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Send with us a person who should teach us Sunnah and al-Islam, whereupon he (the Holy Prophet) caught hold of the hand of Ubaida and said: He is a man of trust of this Umma.|See also: {{Abu Dawud|18|2888}}}}

{{Quote|Sunan Nasa'i, translated by Muhammad Iqbal Siddiqi|The Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad is therefore, next to Qur'an, the second source of Islamic law and social and personal behavior. In fact we must regard the Sunnah as the only valid explanation of the Qur'anic teachings and the only means to avoid dissensions concerning their interpretation and adaptation to practical use. The Messenger of Allah said 'I am leaving you two things amongst you after my death... the one is the Qur'an and the other is my sunnah or Hadith.' Following hadith therefore is as important as following the injunctions of Qur'an, without which the religion of Islam would be incomplete and would create dissensions among the believers.}}

{{Quote|1=[{{Reference archive|1=http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/3440/fabricated%2520hadeeth|2=2012-02-02}} The misguided sect of al-Qur’aaniyyeen] Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid, Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 3440|2=Ahmad, Abu Dawood and al-Haakim reported with a saheeh isnaad from al-Miqdaam that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Soon there will be a time when a man will be reclining on his couch, narrating a hadeeth from me, and he will say, ‘Between us and you is the Book of Allaah: what it says is halaal, we take as halaal, and what it says is haraam, we take as haraam.’ But listen! Whatever the Messenger of Allaah forbids is like what Allaah forbids.” (Al-Fath al-Kabeer, 3/438. Al-Tirmidhi reported it with different wording, and said that it is hasan saheeh. Sunan al-Tirmidhi bi Sharh Ibn al-‘Arabi, al-Saawi edn., 10/132).}}

{{Quote|Ibn Majah Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1846|It was narrated from Aishah that:

the Messenger of Allah said: “Marriage is part of my sunnah, and '''whoever does not follow my sunnah has nothing to do with me'''. Get married, for I will boast of your great numbers before the nations. Whoever has that means, let him get married, and whoever does not, then he should fast for it will diminish his desire.” (Hasan)}}

{{Quote|Ibn Majah Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1989|It was narrated that 'Abdulleh said:

"The Messenger of Allah cursed the woman who does tattoos and the one who has them done, and those who pluck their eyebrows and file their teeth for the purpose of beautification, and those who change the creation of Allah." News of that reached a woman of Banu Asad who was called Umm Ya'qub. She came to him and said: "I have heard that you said such and such." He said: 'Why should I not curse those whom the Messenger of Allah cursed ? '''And it is in the Book of Allah." She said: "I read what is between its two covers 'and I have not found that." He said: "If you read it properly you would have found it. Have you not read the words: 'And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad) gives you, take it; and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it).'?" She said: "Of course." He said: 'The Messenger of Allah forbade that."''' She said: 'I think that your wife does it.' He said: " Go and look." So she went and looked and she did not see what she wanted. She said: "I have not seen anything!’ 'Abdullah said: "If she was as you say, I would not have kept her with me. " (Sahih)}}

====The First 3 Generations of Muslims are the Best Muslims====

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|8|78|652}}|Narrated 'Abdullah:

The Prophet was asked, "Who are the best people?" He replied: The people of my generation, and then those who will follow (come after) them, and then those who will come after the later; after that there will come some people whose witness will precede their oaths and their oaths will go ahead of their witness." Ibrahim (a sub-narrator) said, "When we were young, our elder friends used to prohibit us from taking oaths by saying, 'I bear witness swearing by Allah, or by Allah's Covenant."'}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|31|6159}}|'A'isha reported that a person asked Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as to who amongst the people were the best. He said: Of the generation to which I belong, then of the second generation (generation adjacent to my generation), then of the third generation (generation adjacent to the second generation).}}

====Free Will====

{{Quote|{{Quran|3|19}}|'''Lo! religion with Allah (is) the Surrender (to His Will and Guidance).''' Those who (formerly) received the Scripture differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of Allah (will find that) lo! Allah is swift at reckoning.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|4}}|They ask thee (O Muhammad) what is made lawful for them. Say: (all) good things are made lawful for you. And those beasts and birds of prey which ye have trained as hounds are trained, ye teach them that which Allah taught you; so eat of that which they catch for you and mention Allah's name upon it, and observe your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is swift to take account.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|7}}|Remember Allah's grace upon you and His covenant by which He bound you when ye said: We hear and we obey; And keep your duty to Allah. Lo! He knoweth what is in the breasts (of men).}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|53}}|Say: Pay (your contribution), willingly or unwillingly, it will not be accepted from you. Lo! ye were ever froward folk.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|21}}|Obedience and a civil word. Then, when the matter is determined, if they are loyal to Allah it will be well for them.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|49|16}}|The wandering Arabs say: We believe. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Ye believe not, but rather say "We submit," for the faith hath not yet entered into your hearts. Yet, if ye obey Allah and His messenger, He will not withhold from you aught of (the reward of) your deeds. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|56|57}}|It is We Who have created you: why will ye not witness the Truth?}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|87|10}}|He who fears will mind,}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|52|203}}|Narrated Ibn 'Umar: The 'Prophet said, "It is obligatory for one to listen to and obey (the ruler's orders) unless these orders involve one disobedience (to Allah); but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed, he should not listen to or obey it."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|89|256}}|Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|89|258}}|Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "A Muslim has to listen to and obey (the order of his ruler) whether he likes it or not, as long as his orders involve not one in disobedience (to Allah), but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed one should not listen to it or obey it. (See Hadith No. 203, Vol. 4)}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|9|92|384}}|Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "All my followers will enter Paradise except those who refuse." They said, "O Allah's Apostle! Who will refuse?" He said, "Whoever obeys me will enter Paradise, and whoever disobeys me is the one who refuses (to enter it)." }}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|20|4604}}|It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. 'Umar who said: We used to take oath to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) that we would listen to and obey his orders. He would tell us (to say in the oath): As far as it lies in my power.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:322|'''Allah said, ‘Do not turn away from Muhammad when he is speaking to you. Do not contradict his orders.''' And do not be a hypocrite, one who pretends to be obedient to him and then disobeys him. Those who do so will receive My vengeance. '''You must respond to the Apostle when he summons you to war.'''}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 182}}|The people assembled in Mecca to swear allegiance to the Messenger in submission. He received from them the oath of allegiance to himself, to heed and obey.}}

===The Qur'an Should Not Fall Into The Hands of Infidels===

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|52|233}}|Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying (copies of) the Quran.}}

{{Quote|{{Muslim|20|4609}}|It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Do not take the Qur'an on a journey with you, for I am afraid lost it should fall into the hands of the enemy. Ayyub (one of the narrators in the chain of transmitters) said: The enemy may seize it and may quarrel with you over it.|See also: {{Muslim|20|4607}}, and {{Muslim|20|4608}}}}

===Don't Ask Too Many Questions===

{{Quote|1={{Quran|5|101-102}}|2=O ye who believe! '''Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble'''. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|74|31}}|And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, '''"What symbol doth Allah intend by this ?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth''', and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|26}}|Allah disdains not to use the similitude of things, lowest as well as highest. Those who believe know that it is truth from their Lord; '''but those who reject Faith say: "What means Allah by this similitude?"''' By it He causes many to stray, and many He leads into the right path; but He causes not to stray, except those who forsake (the path),- }}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|2|24|555}}| Narrated Ash-sha'bi:

The clerk of Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba narrated, "Muawiya wrote to Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba: Write to me something which you have heard from the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ." So Al-Mughira wrote: I heard the Prophet saying, "Allah has hated for you three things:

1. Vain talks, (useless talk) that you talk too much or about others.

2. Wasting of wealth (by extravagance)

3. '''And asking too many questions (in disputed religious matters)''' or asking others for something (except in great need). (See Hadith No. 591, Vol. Ill) }}

{{Quote|Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, vol. III, pgs. 76-77|"'''The Holy Prophet himself forbade people to ask questions ...so do not try to probe into such things.'''"}}

{{Quote|1=[http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=5&tid=14747 Unnecessary Questioning is Disapproved of] Tafsir Ibn Kathir|2=(O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble...)." Imam Ahmad recorded that `Ali said, "When this Ayah was revealed,

(And Hajj to the House is a duty that mankind owes to Allah, those who can bear the journey.)[3:97], they asked, `O Allah's Messenger! Is it required every year' He did not answer them, and they asked again, `Is it every year' He still did not answer them, so they asked, `Is it every year' He said,

(No, and had I said `yes', it would have become obligated, and had it become obligated, you would not be able to bear it.) Allah sent down,

(O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.)." At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah also recorded this Hadith. The apparent wording of this Ayah indicates that '''we are forbidden to ask about things that if one has knowledge of, he would be sorry he had asked. Consequently, it is better to avoid such questions'''.}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

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Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Characteristics of Non-Muslims

2014-08-20T23:27:46Z

PW. Jansen: /* Allah on Non-Muslims */ I added Sahab's remark below the header to explain the difference between how Muslims and non-Muslims perceive a remark from Allah

{{QuranHadithScholarsIndex}}
==Qur'an==
===Non-Muslims are Arrogant and Divided===
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|2}}|Nay, but those who disbelieve are in false pride and schism.}}

===Non-Muslims are Vain===
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|19|73|end=74|style=ref}} |
When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, the Unbelievers say to those who believe, "Which of the two sides is best in point of position? Which makes the best show in council?" 
But how many (countless) generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye? }}

===Non-Muslims are Close-Minded===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. 
There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|47|23|end=24|style=ref}} |
Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. 
Do they not then earnestly seek to understand the Qur'an, or are their hearts locked up by them? }}

===Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb and Blind===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|171}}|The likeness of those who disbelieve is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry; deaf, dumb, blind -- they do not understand.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|25}}|Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|23}}|Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. }}

===Non-Muslims are Evil===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|10}}|In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|254}}|O ye who believe! spend of that wherewith We have provided you ere a day come when there will be no trafficking, nor friendship, nor intercession. The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|45}}|And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|62|5}}|The similitude of those who were charged with the (obligations of the) Mosaic Law, but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not). Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of God: and God guides not people who do wrong.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|55}}|Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion - the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state), after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace: 'They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me. 'If any do reject Faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|5}}|No plea had they, when Our terror came unto them, save that they said: Lo! We were wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|27}}|O Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you as he caused your (first) parents to go forth from the Garden and tore off from them their robe (of innocence) that he might manifest their shame to them. Lo! he seeth you, he and his tribe, from whence ye see him not. Lo! '''We have made the devils protecting friends for those who believe not.'''}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|177}}|Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls.}}

===Non-Muslims are Greedy===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|96}}|And you will most certainly find them the greediest of men for life (greedier) than even those who are polytheists; every one of them loves that he should be granted a life of a thousand years, and his being granted a long life will in no way remove him further off from the chastisement, and Allah sees what they do.}}

===Non-Muslims are Unjust===
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|49}}|Nay, here are Signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our Signs. }}

===Non-Muslims are Like Animals===

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|176}}|If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|65}}|And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|166}}|When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|44}}|Or thinkest thou that most of them listen or understand? They are only like cattle; - nay, they are worse astray in Path.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}| For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}|Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|74|49|50}}| Then what is the matter with them that they turn away from admonition? 

As if they were affrighted asses}}

===Non-Muslims are Perverse===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|30}}|And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|63|4}}|When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!}}

===Non-Muslims have a Disease in their Hearts===

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realise (it) not! 
In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves). }}

{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|51|end=52|style=ref}}|
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|50}}|Is it that there is a disease in their hearts? or do they doubt, or are they in fear, that Allah and His Messenger will deal unjustly with them? Nay, it is they themselves who do wrong. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unclean===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|28}}|O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.}}

===Non-Muslims are Impure===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|41}}|O Messenger. let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, "If ye are given his, take it, but if not, beware!" If any one's trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah. For such - it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. }}

===Non-Muslims are Hard-hearted===
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|22}}|Is one whose heart God has opened to Islam, so that he has received Enlightenment from God, (no better than one hard-hearted)? Woe to those whose hearts are hardened against celebrating the praises of God! they are manifestly wandering (in error)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}|Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unintelligent===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|65}}|O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, '''because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.'''}}

===Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|22}}|For the vilest beasts in God's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who understand not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|For the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who reject Him: They will not believe.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|95|4|6}}| We have indeed created man in the best of moulds, Then do We abase him (to be) the lowest of the low,- Except such as believe and do righteous deeds: For they shall have a reward unfailing.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|98|6}}|Verily those who believe not, among those who have received the scriptures, and among the idolaters, [shall be cast] into the fire of hell, to remain therein [for ever]. These are the worst of creatures.}}

===Non-Muslims are Losers===

{{Quote|{{Quran|3|85}}|And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|27}}|Who break the covenant of Allah after its confirmation and cut asunder what Allah has ordered to be joined, and make mischief in the land; these it is that are the losers. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|121}}|Those to whom We have given the Book read it as it ought to be read. These believe in it; and whoever disbelieves in it, these it is that are the losers.}}

===Allah on Non-Muslims===
In Islam, Allah is the law. If he thinks something, then it simply is. So, to Muslims in general, it's not simply "Allah thinks Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures," it is literally "Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures".
====Allah does not Love Non-Muslims====
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|32}}| Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger": But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|38}}| Verily Allah will defend (from ill) those who believe: verily, Allah loveth not any that is a traitor to faith, or show ingratitude. }}

====Allah will made their deeds Fruitless and will bring Destruction on Them====
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|47|8|end=10|style=ref}} | But those who reject ((Allah)),- for them is destruction, and ((Allah)) will render their deeds astray (from their mark). That is because they hate the Revelation of Allah. so He has made their deeds fruitless. Do they not travel through the earth, and see what was the End of those before them (who did evil)? Allah brought utter destruction on them, and similar (fates await) those who reject Allah. }}

====Allah has Cursed Them====
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|88}}| They say, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah's Word: we need no more)." Nay, Allah's curse is on them for their blasphemy: Little is it they believe. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|6}}| And that He may punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Polytheists men and women, who imagine an evil opinion of Allah. On them is a round of Evil: the Wrath of Allah is on them: He has cursed them and got Hell ready for them: and evil is it for a destination. }}

====Allah Despises and Rejects Them====
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|17|17|end=18|style=ref}} | How many generations have We destroyed after Noah? and enough is thy Lord to note and see the sins of His servants. 
If any do wish for the transitory things (of this life), We readily grant them - such things as We will, to such person as We will: in the end have We provided Hell for them; they will burn therein, disgraced and rejected. }}

====Allah will Disgrace Them====
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|18}}| Seest thou not that to Allah bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens and on earth: the sun, the moon, the stars; the hills, the trees, the animals; and a great number among mankind? But a great number are (also) such as are fit for Punishment: and such as Allah shall disgrace,- None can raise to honour: for Allah carries out all that He wills. }}

==See Also==

{{Hub4|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)}}

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User talk:PW. Jansen

2014-08-20T23:13:29Z

PW. Jansen: /* Leap year */ Verse 9:37

User talk:PW. Jansen

2014-08-20T23:13:00Z

PW. Jansen: /* Thanks */ Answer to Sahab

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Characteristics of Non-Muslims

2014-08-18T23:59:11Z

PW. Jansen: /* Non-Muslims are Losers */ Addition on what Allah thinks of non-Muslims

{{QuranHadithScholarsIndex}}
==Qur'an==
===Non-Muslims are Arrogant and Divided===
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|2}}|Nay, but those who disbelieve are in false pride and schism.}}

===Non-Muslims are Vain===
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|19|73|end=74|style=ref}} |
When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, the Unbelievers say to those who believe, "Which of the two sides is best in point of position? Which makes the best show in council?" 
But how many (countless) generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye? }}

===Non-Muslims are Close-Minded===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. 
There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|47|23|end=24|style=ref}} |
Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. 
Do they not then earnestly seek to understand the Qur'an, or are their hearts locked up by them? }}

===Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb and Blind===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|171}}|The likeness of those who disbelieve is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry; deaf, dumb, blind -- they do not understand.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|25}}|Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|23}}|Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. }}

===Non-Muslims are Evil===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|10}}|In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|254}}|O ye who believe! spend of that wherewith We have provided you ere a day come when there will be no trafficking, nor friendship, nor intercession. The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|45}}|And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|62|5}}|The similitude of those who were charged with the (obligations of the) Mosaic Law, but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not). Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of God: and God guides not people who do wrong.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|55}}|Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion - the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state), after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace: 'They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me. 'If any do reject Faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|5}}|No plea had they, when Our terror came unto them, save that they said: Lo! We were wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|27}}|O Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you as he caused your (first) parents to go forth from the Garden and tore off from them their robe (of innocence) that he might manifest their shame to them. Lo! he seeth you, he and his tribe, from whence ye see him not. Lo! '''We have made the devils protecting friends for those who believe not.'''}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|177}}|Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls.}}

===Non-Muslims are Greedy===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|96}}|And you will most certainly find them the greediest of men for life (greedier) than even those who are polytheists; every one of them loves that he should be granted a life of a thousand years, and his being granted a long life will in no way remove him further off from the chastisement, and Allah sees what they do.}}

===Non-Muslims are Unjust===
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|49}}|Nay, here are Signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our Signs. }}

===Non-Muslims are Like Animals===

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|176}}|If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|65}}|And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|166}}|When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|44}}|Or thinkest thou that most of them listen or understand? They are only like cattle; - nay, they are worse astray in Path.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}| For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}|Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|74|49|50}}| Then what is the matter with them that they turn away from admonition? 

As if they were affrighted asses}}

===Non-Muslims are Perverse===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|30}}|And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|63|4}}|When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!}}

===Non-Muslims have a Disease in their Hearts===

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realise (it) not! 
In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves). }}

{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|51|end=52|style=ref}}|
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|50}}|Is it that there is a disease in their hearts? or do they doubt, or are they in fear, that Allah and His Messenger will deal unjustly with them? Nay, it is they themselves who do wrong. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unclean===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|28}}|O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.}}

===Non-Muslims are Impure===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|41}}|O Messenger. let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, "If ye are given his, take it, but if not, beware!" If any one's trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah. For such - it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. }}

===Non-Muslims are Hard-hearted===
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|22}}|Is one whose heart God has opened to Islam, so that he has received Enlightenment from God, (no better than one hard-hearted)? Woe to those whose hearts are hardened against celebrating the praises of God! they are manifestly wandering (in error)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}|Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unintelligent===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|65}}|O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, '''because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.'''}}

===Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|22}}|For the vilest beasts in God's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who understand not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|For the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who reject Him: They will not believe.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|95|4|6}}| We have indeed created man in the best of moulds, Then do We abase him (to be) the lowest of the low,- Except such as believe and do righteous deeds: For they shall have a reward unfailing.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|98|6}}|Verily those who believe not, among those who have received the scriptures, and among the idolaters, [shall be cast] into the fire of hell, to remain therein [for ever]. These are the worst of creatures.}}

===Non-Muslims are Losers===

{{Quote|{{Quran|3|85}}|And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|27}}|Who break the covenant of Allah after its confirmation and cut asunder what Allah has ordered to be joined, and make mischief in the land; these it is that are the losers. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|121}}|Those to whom We have given the Book read it as it ought to be read. These believe in it; and whoever disbelieves in it, these it is that are the losers.}}

===Allah on Non-Muslims===

====Allah does not Love Non-Muslims====
{{Quote|{{Quran|3|32}}| Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger": But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|38}}| Verily Allah will defend (from ill) those who believe: verily, Allah loveth not any that is a traitor to faith, or show ingratitude. }}

====Allah will made their deeds Fruitless and will bring Destruction on Them====
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|47|8|end=10|style=ref}} | But those who reject ((Allah)),- for them is destruction, and ((Allah)) will render their deeds astray (from their mark). That is because they hate the Revelation of Allah. so He has made their deeds fruitless. Do they not travel through the earth, and see what was the End of those before them (who did evil)? Allah brought utter destruction on them, and similar (fates await) those who reject Allah. }}

====Allah has Cursed Them====
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|88}}| They say, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah's Word: we need no more)." Nay, Allah's curse is on them for their blasphemy: Little is it they believe. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|48|6}}| And that He may punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Polytheists men and women, who imagine an evil opinion of Allah. On them is a round of Evil: the Wrath of Allah is on them: He has cursed them and got Hell ready for them: and evil is it for a destination. }}

====Allah Despises and Rejects Them====
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|17|17|end=18|style=ref}} | How many generations have We destroyed after Noah? and enough is thy Lord to note and see the sins of His servants. 
If any do wish for the transitory things (of this life), We readily grant them - such things as We will, to such person as We will: in the end have We provided Hell for them; they will burn therein, disgraced and rejected. }}

====Allah will Disgrace Them====
{{Quote|{{Quran|22|18}}| Seest thou not that to Allah bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens and on earth: the sun, the moon, the stars; the hills, the trees, the animals; and a great number among mankind? But a great number are (also) such as are fit for Punishment: and such as Allah shall disgrace,- None can raise to honour: for Allah carries out all that He wills. }}

==See Also==

{{Hub4|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)}}

[[Category:QHS]]

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Muhammad and Booty

2014-08-17T07:11:38Z

PW. Jansen: /* Booty has been made legal for Muhammad */ Addition 9:98 a verse similar to 9:103

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==Booty has been made legal for Muhammad==

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|1}}|They ask thee (O Muhammad) of the spoils of war. Say: '''The spoils of war belong to Allah and the messenger, so keep your duty to Allah,''' and adjust the matter of your difference, and obey Allah and His messenger, if ye are (true) believers. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|40}}|And know that whatever ye take as spoils of war, lo! a fifth thereof is for Allah, and for the messenger and for the kinsman (who hath need) and orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, if ye believe in Allah and that which We revealed unto Our slave on the Day of Discrimination, the day when the two armies met. And Allah is Able to do all things.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|59|6}}|What Allah has bestowed on His Messenger (and taken away) from them [the Jews] - for this ye made no expedition with either cavalry or camelry: but Allah gives power to His messengers over any He pleases: and Allah has power over all things.}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|8|68|end=69|style=ref}} |
Had it not been for a previous ordainment from Allah, a severe penalty would have reached you for the (ransom) that ye took. 
But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|98}}| Some of the desert Arabs look upon their payments as a fine, and watch for disasters for you: on them be the disaster of evil: for Allah is He That heareth and knoweth (all things).}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|9|103}}|Take alms out of their property, you would cleanse them and purify them thereby, and pray for them; surely your prayer is a relief to them; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|53|351}}|Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: '''Allah's Apostle said, "Booty has been made legal for me."'''}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|53|353}}|Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A prophet amongst the prophets carried out a holy military expedition, so he said to his followers, 'Anyone who has married a woman and wants to consummate the marriage, and has not done so yet, should not accompany me; nor should a man who has built a house but has not completed its roof; nor a man who has sheep or shecamels and is waiting for the birth of their young ones.' So, the prophet carried out the expedition and when he reached that town at the time or nearly at the time of the 'Asr prayer, he said to the sun, 'O sun! You are under Allah's Order and I am under Allah's Order O Allah! Stop it (i.e. the sun) from setting.' It was stopped till Allah made him victorious.
 
Then he collected the booty and the fire came to burn it, but it did not burn it. He said (to his men), 'Some of you have stolen something from the booty. So one man from every tribe should give me a pledge of allegiance by shaking hands with me.' (They did so and) the hand of a man got stuck over the hand of their prophet. Then that prophet said (to the man), 'The theft has been committed by your people. So all the persons of your tribe should give me the pledge of allegiance by shaking hands with me.' The hands of two or three men got stuck over the hand of their prophet and he said, "You have committed the theft.' Then they brought a head of gold like the head of a cow and put it there, and the fire came and consumed the booty. '''The Prophet added: Then Allah saw our weakness and disability, so he made booty legal for us."'''}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:327|"Allah made booty lawful and good. He used it to incite the Muslims to unity of purpose. So enjoy what you have captured.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:503|Allah saw what was in their hearts [what they coveted] so he rewarded them with victory and with as much spoil as they could take. Allah promised that they would soon capture a great deal of booty.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:510|We ask Thee for the booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.' He used to say this of every town he raided.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 12}}|When cities were conquered Muslims used to say, ‘Conquer for yourselves whatever seems good to you because all treasures were given to Muhammad.'}}

==Dividing the Plunder==

===How the Plunder was Divided===

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|5|59|357}}|Narrated Qais: The Badr warriors were given five thousand (Dirhams) each, yearly. 'Umar said, "I will surely give them more than what I will give to others."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|53|373}}|Narrated 'Amr bin Taghlib: Allah's Apostle gave (gifts) to some people to the exclusion of some others. The latter seemed to be displeased by that. '''The Prophet said, "I give to some people, lest they should deviate from True Faith''' or lose patience, while I refer other people to the goodness and contentment which Allah has put in their hearts, and 'Amr bin Taghlib is amongst them." 'Amr bin Taghlib said, "The statement of Allah's Apostle is dearer to me than red camels."
 
Narrated Al-Hasan: 'Amr bin Taghlib told us that Allah's Apostle got some property or some war prisoners and he distributed them in the above way (i.e. giving to some people to the exclusion of others) .}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|5|59|537}}|Narrated Ibn 'Umar: On the day of Khaibar, Allah's Apostle divided (the war booty of Khaibar) with the ratio of two shares for the horse and one-share for the foot soldier. (The sub-narrator, Nafi' explained this, saying, "If a man had a horse, he was given three shares and if he had no horse, then he was given one share.")}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|5|59|542}}|Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab: By Him in Whose Hand my soul is, were I not afraid that the other Muslims might be left in poverty, I would divide (the land of) whatever village I may conquer (among the fighters), as the Prophet divided the land of Khaibar. But I prefer to leave it as a (source of) a common treasury for them to distribute it revenue amongst themselves.|See Also {{Bukhari|5|59|543}}}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:307|The ‘Spoils of War' Surah came down from Allah to His Prophet concerning the distribution of the booty when the Muslims showed their evil nature. Allah took it out of their hands and gave it to the Apostle.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:321|The Spoils of War surah was handed down because we quarreled about the booty. So Allah took it away from us and gave it to His Apostle. When He did, we learned to fear Allah and obey his Messenger.... For in truth, our army had gone out with the Prophet seeking the caravan because we wanted its booty.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:324|Allah taught them how to divide the spoil. He made it lawful and said, ‘A fifth of the booty belongs to the Apostle.'}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:465|When their wrists were bound with cords, the Apostle was a sea of generosity to us. Allah's Messenger took his fifth of the booty. He made known on that day the extra shares for horses and their riders —giving the horse two shares and the rider one. A Muslim without a horse got one share of the spoil. It was the first booty in which lots were cast.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:511|When Dihyah protested, wanting to keep Safiyah for himself, the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:521|Khaybar was apportioned among the men of Hudaybiyah without regard to whether they were present at Khaybar or not. The spoil was divided into 1,800 shares.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:521|When the spoil of Khaybar was apportioned, the settlements of Shaqq and Nata were given to the Muslims while Katiba was divided into five sections: Allah's fifth [which Muhammad was custodian]; the Prophet's fifth; the share to the kindred [Muhammad's kin]; maintenance of the Prophet's wives; and payment to the men who acted as intermediaries in the peace negotiation with Fadak.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:522|Then the Apostle distributed the booty between his relatives, his wives, and to other men and women. He gave his daughter Fatima 200 shares, Ali 100, Usama 250, Aisha 200, Bakr 100…. In the name of Allah—this is a memorandum of what Muhammad the Apostle gave his wives from the dates and wheat: 180 loads.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:571|I went up to a man and struck off his hand. He fell and I killed him while he was down. But I was too occupied with fighting to pay any more attention to him. So one of the Meccan Muslims passed by and stripped him. Then when the fighting was over and we had finished with the enemy, the Apostle said that anyone who had killed a foe could have his spoil. I told the Apostle that I had killed a man who was worth stripping but had been too busy killing others at the time to notice who had spoiled him. Abu Bakr said, "To Allah's lions who fight for His religion go the spoils that come from their prey. Return the booty to the man who killed him.' The Apostle confirmed Abu Bakr's words. So I was given the property of the man whom I had killed. I sold it and bought a small palm grove with the money. It was the first property I ever owned.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|7|p. 64}}|The Messenger of Allah gave orders concerning the contents of the camp which the people had collected, and it was all brought together. Among the Muslims, however, there was a difference of opinion concerning it. Those who had collected it said, ‘It is ours. Muhammad promised every man that he could keep the booty he took.' Those who were fighting said, ‘If it had not been for us, you would not have taken it. We distracted the enemy from you so that you could take what you took.' Those who were guarding the Prophet for fear the enemy would attack him said, ‘By Allah, you have no better right to it than we have. We wanted to kill the enemy when Allah gave us the opportunity and made them turn their backs, and we wanted to take property when there was no one to protect it; but we were afraid that the Meccans might attack the Prophet. We protected him so you have no better right to it than we have.' When we quarreled about the booty we became very bad tempered. So Allah removed it from us and handed it over to His Messenger.|See Also Ishaq:307}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 38}}|The Messenger divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 128}}|Khaybar was divided among the people who had been at Hudaybiyah.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 130}}|The Prophet conquered Khaybar by force after fighting. Khaybar was something that Allah gave as booty to His Messenger. He took one-fifth of it and divided the remainder among the Muslims.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|9|p. 13}}|Abu Talhah alone took the spoils of twenty men whom he had killed.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|9|p. 31}}|‘Muhammad, divide the spoil and booty of camels and cattle among us.' They forced the Prophet up against a tree, and his robe was torn from him. Muhammad cried, ‘Give me back my robe. If there had been more sheep I would have given you some. You have not found me to be niggardly, cowardly or false.|See Also Ishaq:594}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|9|p. 31}}|‘You have not found me miserly, cowardly, or a liar.' Then he walked over to his camel and took a hair from its hump. Holding it aloft in his fingers he said, ‘Men, I do not have anything of your booty, not even as much as this hair. Just filth. And that filth is what is being given to you. So, bring back my cloak.'|See Also Ishaq:594}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|9|p. 74}}|Indeed, Allah has guided you with His guidance. If you wish to do well [capture booty], obey Allah and His Messenger. You must perform the prayers, pay the zakat tax, and give a fifth share of Allah's booty to His Messenger. The required zakat is: from the land one tenth of that watered by springs and rain, and one twentieth of that watered by the leathern bucket. From camels, a milch camel for every forty camels, and a young male camel for every thirty camels. From sheep, one for every five camels; and from cows, one from every fourth… If anyone pays more, it is to his credit. He who professes this, bears witness to his Islam and helps the faithful [fight] against the polytheists, he has the protection of Allah and His Messenger.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|9|p. 28}}|The Muslims were concerned. They did not want to give up their share. So Muhammad said, ‘He who holds a share of these captives shall get six camels for every slave from the next booty we take.' So the Muslims returned the women and children captives.}}

===Plunder was Guaranteed to Muslim Fighters===

{{Quote|{{Quran|4|94}}|O ye who believe! When ye go forth (to fight) in the way of Allah, be careful to discriminate, and say not unto one who offereth you peace: "Thou art not a believer," seeking the chance profits of this life (so that ye may despoil him). '''With Allah are plenteous spoils.''' Even thus (as he now is) were ye before; but Allah hath since then been gracious unto you. Therefore take care to discriminate. Allah is ever Informed of what ye do.}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|48|19|end=20|style=ref}} |
And much booty that they will capture. Allah is ever Mighty, Wise. 
Allah promiseth you much booty that ye will capture, and hath given you this in advance, and hath withheld men's hands from you, that it may be a token for the believers, and that He may guide you on a right path.}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|52|46}}|Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The example of a Mujahid in Allah's Cause-- and Allah knows better who really strives in His Cause----is like a person who fasts and prays continuously. Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely '''with rewards and war booty'''."}}

===Swindling===

====Instances of Swindling====

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|5|59|360}}|Narrated Ibn Shihab: These were the battles of Allah's Apostle (which he fought), and while mentioning (the Badr battle) he said, "While the corpses of the pagans were being thrown into the well, Allah's Apostle said (to them), 'Have you found what your Lord promised true?" 'Abdullah said, "Some of the Prophet's companions said, "O Allah's Apostle! You are addressing dead people.' Allah's Apostle replied, 'You do not hear what I am saying, better than they.' The total number of Muslim fighters from Quraish who fought in the battle of Badr and were given their share of the booty, were 81 men." Az-Zubair said, "When their shares were distributed, their number was 101 men. But Allah knows it better."|See Also {{Bukhari|5|59|361}}}}

====Preventing and Punishing Swindling====

{{Quote|{{Abu Dawud|14|2707}}|Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: Salih ibn Muhammad ibn Za'idah (AbuDawud said: This Salih is AbuWaqid) said: We entered the Byzantine territory with Maslamah. A man who had been dishonest about booty was brought. He (Maslamah) asked Salim about him. He said: I heard my father narrating from Umar ibn al-Khattab from the Prophet (peace be upon him). He said: '''When you find a man who has been dishonest about booty, burn his property, and beat him.''' He beat him. He said: We found in his property a copy of the Qur'an. He again asked Salim about it. He said: Sell it and give its price in charity.|See Also {{Abu Dawud|14|2709}}, {{Abu Dawud|14|2710}}}}

==Goods Plundered==

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|5|59|541}}|Narrated Abu Huraira: When we conquered Khaibar, we gained neither gold nor silver as booty, but we gained cows, camels, goods and gardens. Then we departed with Allah's Apostle to the valley of Al-Qira, and at that time Allah's Apostle had a slave called Mid'am who had been presented to him by one of Banu Ad-Dibbab. While the slave was dismounting the saddle of Allah's Apostle an arrow the thrower of which was unknown, came and hit him. The people said, "Congratulations to him for the martyrdom." Allah's Apostle said, "No, by Him in Whose Hand my soul is, the sheet (of cloth) which he had taken (illegally) on the day of Khaibar from the booty before the distribution of the booty, has become a flame of Fire burning him." On hearing that, a man brought one or two leather straps of shoes to the Prophet and said, "These are things I took (illegally)." On that Allah's Apostle said, "This is a strap, or these are two straps of Fire."}}

{{Quote|{{Bukhari|4|52|276}}|Narrated Al-Bara bin Azib: The Prophet appointed 'Abdullah bin Jubair as the commander of the infantry men (archers) who were fifty on the day (of the battle) of Uhud. He instructed them, "Stick to your place, and don't leave it even if you see birds snatching us, till I send for you; and if you see that we have defeated the infidels and made them flee, even then you should not leave your place till I send for you." Then the infidels were defeated. By Allah, I saw the women fleeing lifting up their clothes revealing their leg-bangles and their legs. So, the companions of 'Abdullah bin Jubair said, "The booty! O people, the booty ! Your companions have become victorious, what are you waiting for now?" 'Abdullah bin Jubair said, "Have you forgotten what Allah's Apostle said to you?" They replied, "By Allah! We will go to the people (i.e. the enemy) and collect our share from the war booty." But when they went to them, they were forced to turn back defeated. At that time Allah's Apostle in their rear was calling them back. Only twelve men remained with the Prophet and the infidels martyred seventy men from us.
 
On the day (of the battle) of Badr, the Prophet and his companions had caused the 'Pagans to lose 140 men, seventy of whom were captured and seventy were killed. Then Abu Sufyan asked thrice, "Is Muhammad present amongst these people?" The Prophet ordered his companions not to answer him. Then he asked thrice, "Is the son of Abu Quhafa present amongst these people?" He asked again thrice, "Is the son of Al-Khattab present amongst these people?" He then returned to his companions and said, "As for these (men), they have been killed." 'Umar could not control himself and said (to Abu Sufyan), "You told a lie, by Allah! O enemy of Allah! All those you have mentioned are alive, and the thing which will make you unhappy is still there." Abu Sufyan said, "Our victory today is a counterbalance to yours in the battle of Badr, and in war (the victory) is always undecided and is shared in turns by the belligerents, and you will find some of your (killed) men mutilated, but I did not urge my men to do so, yet I do not feel sorry for their deed" After that he started reciting cheerfully, "O Hubal, be high! (1) On that the Prophet said (to his companions), "Why don't you answer him back?" They said, "O Allah's Apostle What shall we say?" He said, "Say, Allah is Higher and more Sublime." (Then) Abu Sufyan said, "We have the (idol) Al Uzza, and you have no Uzza." The Prophet said (to his companions), "Why don't you answer him back?" They asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What shall we say?" He said, "Says Allah is our Helper and you have no helper."}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:309|‘Bind Abu Aziz tight for his mother is rich and she may ransom him for a great deal of money.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:312|The Prophet said, ‘Abbas, you must ransom yourself, your two nephews, Aqil and Nawfal, and your confederate, Utbah, for you are a wealthy man.' ‘Muhammad,' Abbas said, ‘I was a Muslim, but the people compelled me to fight against my will.' Allah knows best concerning your Islam,' Muhammad said. ‘As for your outward appearance, you have been against us, so pay to ransom yourself.' The Messenger had previously taken twenty ounces of gold from him following the battle. So Abbas said, ‘Credit me with this amount towards my ransom.' ‘No,' Muhammad replied. ‘That money Allah has already taken from you and given to us.'}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:313|The Muslims told Abu Sufyan to pay them a ransom to free his son, Amr. He replied, ‘Am I to suffer the double loss of my blood and my money? After you have killed my son Hanzala, you want me to pay you a ransom to save Amr?'}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:316|On the Badr expedition, the Messenger took the sword of Dhu al-Faqar as booty. It had belonged to Munabbih. On that day he also took Abu Jahl's camel as booty. It was a Mahri dromedary on which he used to go on raids. It is said that he wrote ‘Ma'aqil' [Blood-Money] on his sword}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:515|Allah's Apostle besieged the final [Jewish] community of Khaybar until they could hold out no longer. Finally, when they were certain that they would perish, they asked Muhammad to banish them and spare their lives, which he did. The Prophet took possession of all their property.}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:508|Abu Jandal, Suhayl's son, escaped and joined Abu Basir. Nearly seventy Muslim men gathered around them and they harassed the Quraysh. '''Whenever they heard of a Meccan caravan setting out for Syria, they intercepted it, and killed everyone they could get a hold of. They tore every caravan to pieces and took the goods.'''|See Also {{Tabari|8|p. 91}}}}

{{Quote|Ishaq:592|The Apostle held a large number of captives. There were 6,000 women and children prisoners. He had captured so many sheep and camels they could not be counted.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|7|p. 65}}|Allah's Messenger came back to Medina, bringing with him the booty which had been taken from the polytheists.... There were forty-four captives in the Messenger of Allah's possession. There was a similar number of dead.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 93}}|According to Waqidi, in this month, the Messenger sent out Ukkashah with forty men to raid Ghamr. He traveled quickly, but the enemy became aware and fled. He sent out scouts and they captured a spy who guided them to some of their cattle. They took two hundred head back to Medina.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 116}}|So Muhammad began seizing their herds and their property bit by bit. He conquered home by home. The Messenger took some of its people captive, including Safiyah and her two cousins. The Prophet chose Safiyah for himself.|See Also Ishaq:511}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 117}}|The Banu Sahm of Aslam came to the Messenger and complained, ‘Muhammad, we have been hurt by drought and possess nothing.' Although they had fought for the Prophet they found he had nothing [he was willing] to give them. The Apostle said, ‘O Allah, You know their condition—I have no strength and nothing [I want] to give them. So conquer for them the wealthiest of the Khaybar homes, the ones with the most food and fat meat.'}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|9|p. 3}}|Since the Hawazin and Thaqif had marched with their women, children, and flocks, Allah granted them as booty to His Messenger, who divided the spoils among those Quraysh who had recently embraced Islam.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|7|p. 71}}|Among the captives was Abu Wada. Muhammad said, ‘He has a son who is a shrewd merchant with much money." [The son] "slipped away at night, went to Medina, ransomed his father for 4,000 dirhams.}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|8|p. 39}}|Then the Messenger of Allah sent Sa'd bin Zayd with some of the Qurayza captives to Najd, and in exchange for them he purchased horses and arms.}}

===Muhammad Takes his own People Captive===

{{Quote|{{Tabari|7|p. 80}}|When the events of Badr were over, Allah revealed the 8th surah, ‘The Spoils of War,' in its entirety. The two armies met and Allah defeated the Meccans. Seventy of them were killed, and '''seventy were taken captive. Abu Bakr said, ‘O Prophet of Allah, these are your people, your family; they are your cousins, fellow clansmen, and nephews. I think that you should accept ransoms for them so that what we take from them will strengthen us.''''}}

{{Quote|{{Tabari|7|p. 81}}|‘What do you think Khattab?' Muhammad asked. ‘I say you should hand them over to me so that I can cut off their heads. Thus Allah will know that there is no leniency in our hearts toward the unbelievers.' The Messenger liked what Bakr said and did not like what I said, and accepted ransoms for the captives.}}

==Islam and Muhammad's Plundering==

{{Quote|Ishaq:564|The Muslims stole our goods and divided them. Their spears pierced us not once but twice. Their squadrons came at us like a swarm of locusts. W'''ere it not for the religion of Muhammad's people, their cavalry would never have attacked us.'''}}

==Muhammad's Sources of Income==

Note that the following Hadith has been removed from the Internet and that it may be found at the indicated reference.
{{Quote|Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 4, p. 104|Narrated Ibn 'Umar that the Prophet (SA) said, '''"My livelihood is under the shade of my spear,(1) and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya"'''<ref>The Translation of the Meanings of Sahih Al-Bukhari, Arabic-English, Vol.IV (page 104) by Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Islamic University—Al-Medina Al-Munauwara</ref>}}

Also note the accompanying footnote:
{{Quote||Footnote: (1) '''"Under the shade of my spear" means "from war booty"'''.}}

==See Also==

{{Hub4|Violence Under Muhammad (Primary Sources)|Violence Under Muhammad (Primary Sources)}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:QHS]]
[[Category:Muhammad]]

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Characteristics of Non-Muslims

2014-08-17T06:59:31Z

PW. Jansen: /* Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures */ Addition of Losers section

{{QuranHadithScholarsIndex}}
==Qur'an==
===Non-Muslims are Arrogant and Divided===
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|2}}|Nay, but those who disbelieve are in false pride and schism.}}

===Non-Muslims are Vain===
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|19|73|end=74|style=ref}} |
When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, the Unbelievers say to those who believe, "Which of the two sides is best in point of position? Which makes the best show in council?" 
But how many (countless) generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye? }}

===Non-Muslims are Close-Minded===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. 
There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|47|23|end=24|style=ref}} |
Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. 
Do they not then earnestly seek to understand the Qur'an, or are their hearts locked up by them? }}

===Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb and Blind===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|171}}|The likeness of those who disbelieve is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry; deaf, dumb, blind -- they do not understand.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|25}}|Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|23}}|Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. }}

===Non-Muslims are Evil===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|10}}|In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|254}}|O ye who believe! spend of that wherewith We have provided you ere a day come when there will be no trafficking, nor friendship, nor intercession. The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|45}}|And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|62|5}}|The similitude of those who were charged with the (obligations of the) Mosaic Law, but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not). Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of God: and God guides not people who do wrong.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|55}}|Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion - the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state), after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace: 'They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me. 'If any do reject Faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|5}}|No plea had they, when Our terror came unto them, save that they said: Lo! We were wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|27}}|O Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you as he caused your (first) parents to go forth from the Garden and tore off from them their robe (of innocence) that he might manifest their shame to them. Lo! he seeth you, he and his tribe, from whence ye see him not. Lo! '''We have made the devils protecting friends for those who believe not.'''}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|177}}|Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls.}}

===Non-Muslims are Greedy===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|96}}|And you will most certainly find them the greediest of men for life (greedier) than even those who are polytheists; every one of them loves that he should be granted a life of a thousand years, and his being granted a long life will in no way remove him further off from the chastisement, and Allah sees what they do.}}

===Non-Muslims are Unjust===
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|49}}|Nay, here are Signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our Signs. }}

===Non-Muslims are Like Animals===

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|176}}|If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|65}}|And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|166}}|When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|44}}|Or thinkest thou that most of them listen or understand? They are only like cattle; - nay, they are worse astray in Path.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}| For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}|Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|74|49|50}}| Then what is the matter with them that they turn away from admonition? 

As if they were affrighted asses}}

===Non-Muslims are Perverse===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|30}}|And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|63|4}}|When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!}}

===Non-Muslims have a Disease in their Hearts===

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realise (it) not! 
In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves). }}

{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|51|end=52|style=ref}}|
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|50}}|Is it that there is a disease in their hearts? or do they doubt, or are they in fear, that Allah and His Messenger will deal unjustly with them? Nay, it is they themselves who do wrong. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unclean===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|28}}|O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.}}

===Non-Muslims are Impure===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|41}}|O Messenger. let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, "If ye are given his, take it, but if not, beware!" If any one's trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah. For such - it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. }}

===Non-Muslims are Hard-hearted===
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|22}}|Is one whose heart God has opened to Islam, so that he has received Enlightenment from God, (no better than one hard-hearted)? Woe to those whose hearts are hardened against celebrating the praises of God! they are manifestly wandering (in error)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}|Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unintelligent===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|65}}|O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, '''because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.'''}}

===Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|22}}|For the vilest beasts in God's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who understand not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|For the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who reject Him: They will not believe.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|95|4|6}}| We have indeed created man in the best of moulds, Then do We abase him (to be) the lowest of the low,- Except such as believe and do righteous deeds: For they shall have a reward unfailing.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|98|6}}|Verily those who believe not, among those who have received the scriptures, and among the idolaters, [shall be cast] into the fire of hell, to remain therein [for ever]. These are the worst of creatures.}}

===Non-Muslims are Losers===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|27}}|Those who break Allah's Covenant after it is ratified, and who sunder what Allah Has ordered to be joined, and do mischief on earth: These cause loss (only) to themselves. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|121}}|Those to whom We have sent the Book study it as it should be studied: They are the ones that believe therein: Those who reject faith therein,- the loss is their own. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|3|85}}|If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). }}

==See Also==

{{Hub4|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)}}

[[Category:QHS]]

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Characteristics of Non-Muslims

2014-08-17T06:54:01Z

PW. Jansen: /* Non-Muslims are Perverse */

{{QuranHadithScholarsIndex}}
==Qur'an==
===Non-Muslims are Arrogant and Divided===
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|2}}|Nay, but those who disbelieve are in false pride and schism.}}

===Non-Muslims are Vain===
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|19|73|end=74|style=ref}} |
When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, the Unbelievers say to those who believe, "Which of the two sides is best in point of position? Which makes the best show in council?" 
But how many (countless) generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye? }}

===Non-Muslims are Close-Minded===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. 
There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|47|23|end=24|style=ref}} |
Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. 
Do they not then earnestly seek to understand the Qur'an, or are their hearts locked up by them? }}

===Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb and Blind===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|171}}|The likeness of those who disbelieve is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry; deaf, dumb, blind -- they do not understand.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|25}}|Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|23}}|Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. }}

===Non-Muslims are Evil===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|10}}|In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|254}}|O ye who believe! spend of that wherewith We have provided you ere a day come when there will be no trafficking, nor friendship, nor intercession. The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|45}}|And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|62|5}}|The similitude of those who were charged with the (obligations of the) Mosaic Law, but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not). Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of God: and God guides not people who do wrong.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|55}}|Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion - the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state), after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace: 'They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me. 'If any do reject Faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|5}}|No plea had they, when Our terror came unto them, save that they said: Lo! We were wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|27}}|O Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you as he caused your (first) parents to go forth from the Garden and tore off from them their robe (of innocence) that he might manifest their shame to them. Lo! he seeth you, he and his tribe, from whence ye see him not. Lo! '''We have made the devils protecting friends for those who believe not.'''}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|177}}|Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls.}}

===Non-Muslims are Greedy===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|96}}|And you will most certainly find them the greediest of men for life (greedier) than even those who are polytheists; every one of them loves that he should be granted a life of a thousand years, and his being granted a long life will in no way remove him further off from the chastisement, and Allah sees what they do.}}

===Non-Muslims are Unjust===
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|49}}|Nay, here are Signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our Signs. }}

===Non-Muslims are Like Animals===

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|176}}|If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|65}}|And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|166}}|When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|44}}|Or thinkest thou that most of them listen or understand? They are only like cattle; - nay, they are worse astray in Path.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}| For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}|Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|74|49|50}}| Then what is the matter with them that they turn away from admonition? 

As if they were affrighted asses}}

===Non-Muslims are Perverse===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|30}}|And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|63|4}}|When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!}}

===Non-Muslims have a Disease in their Hearts===

{{Quote | {{cite Quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realise (it) not! 
In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves). }}

{{Quote|{{cite Quran|5|51|end=52|style=ref}}|
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|50}}|Is it that there is a disease in their hearts? or do they doubt, or are they in fear, that Allah and His Messenger will deal unjustly with them? Nay, it is they themselves who do wrong. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unclean===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|28}}|O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.}}

===Non-Muslims are Impure===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|41}}|O Messenger. let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, "If ye are given his, take it, but if not, beware!" If any one's trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah. For such - it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. }}

===Non-Muslims are Hard-hearted===
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|22}}|Is one whose heart God has opened to Islam, so that he has received Enlightenment from God, (no better than one hard-hearted)? Woe to those whose hearts are hardened against celebrating the praises of God! they are manifestly wandering (in error)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}|Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unintelligent===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|65}}|O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, '''because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.'''}}

===Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|22}}|For the vilest beasts in God's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who understand not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|For the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who reject Him: They will not believe.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|95|4|6}}| We have indeed created man in the best of moulds, Then do We abase him (to be) the lowest of the low,- Except such as believe and do righteous deeds: For they shall have a reward unfailing.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|98|6}}|Verily those who believe not, among those who have received the scriptures, and among the idolaters, [shall be cast] into the fire of hell, to remain therein [for ever]. These are the worst of creatures.}}

==See Also==

{{Hub4|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)|Non-Muslims (Primary Sources)}}

[[Category:QHS]]

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Characteristics of Non-Muslims

2014-08-17T06:45:51Z

PW. Jansen: /* Non-Muslims are Impure */

{{QuranHadithScholarsIndex}}
==Qur'an==
===Non-Muslims are Arrogant and Divided===
{{Quote|{{Quran|38|2}}|Nay, but those who disbelieve are in false pride and schism.}}

===Non-Muslims are Vain===
{{Quote | {{cite Quran|19|73|end=74|style=ref}} |
When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, the Unbelievers say to those who believe, "Which of the two sides is best in point of position? Which makes the best show in council?" 
But how many (countless) generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye? }}

===Non-Muslims are Close-Minded===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|2|9|end=10|style=ref}} |
They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. 
There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they}}

{{quote | {{cite quran|47|23|end=24|style=ref}} |
Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. 
Do they not then earnestly seek to understand the Qur'an, or are their hearts locked up by them? }}

===Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb and Blind===
{{Quote|{{Quran|2|6}}|As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|171}}|The likeness of those who disbelieve is as the likeness of one who shouts to that which hears nothing, save a call and a cry; deaf, dumb, blind -- they do not understand.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|6|25}}|Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|23}}|Such are the men whom Allah has cursed for He has made them deaf and blinded their sight. }}

===Non-Muslims are Evil===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|10}}|In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|254}}|O ye who believe! spend of that wherewith We have provided you ere a day come when there will be no trafficking, nor friendship, nor intercession. The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|45}}|And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|62|5}}|The similitude of those who were charged with the (obligations of the) Mosaic Law, but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not). Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of God: and God guides not people who do wrong.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|24|55}}|Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion - the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state), after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace: 'They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me. 'If any do reject Faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|5}}|No plea had they, when Our terror came unto them, save that they said: Lo! We were wrong-doers.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|27}}|O Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you as he caused your (first) parents to go forth from the Garden and tore off from them their robe (of innocence) that he might manifest their shame to them. Lo! he seeth you, he and his tribe, from whence ye see him not. Lo! '''We have made the devils protecting friends for those who believe not.'''}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|177}}|Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls.}}

===Non-Muslims are Greedy===

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|96}}|And you will most certainly find them the greediest of men for life (greedier) than even those who are polytheists; every one of them loves that he should be granted a life of a thousand years, and his being granted a long life will in no way remove him further off from the chastisement, and Allah sees what they do.}}

===Non-Muslims are Unjust===
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|49}}|Nay, here are Signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our Signs. }}

===Non-Muslims are Like Animals===

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|176}}|If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|2|65}}|And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|7|166}}|When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|25|44}}|Or thinkest thou that most of them listen or understand? They are only like cattle; - nay, they are worse astray in Path.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}| For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}|Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. }}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|74|49|50}}| Then what is the matter with them that they turn away from admonition? 

As if they were affrighted asses}}

===Non-Muslims are Perverse===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|30}}|And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|63|4}}|When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!}}

===Non-Muslims are Unclean===

{{Quote|{{Quran|9|28}}|O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.}}

===Non-Muslims are Impure===
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|41}}|O Messenger. let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, "If ye are given his, take it, but if not, beware!" If any one's trial is intended by Allah, thou hast no authority in the least for him against Allah. For such - it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. }}

===Non-Muslims are Hard-hearted===
{{Quote|{{Quran|39|22}}|Is one whose heart God has opened to Islam, so that he has received Enlightenment from God, (no better than one hard-hearted)? Woe to those whose hearts are hardened against celebrating the praises of God! they are manifestly wandering (in error)! }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|57|16}}|Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. }}

===Non-Muslims are Unintelligent===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|65}}|O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, '''because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.'''}}

===Non-Muslims are the Worst of Creatures===

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|22}}|For the vilest beasts in God's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who understand not.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|For the worst of beasts in the sight of God are those who reject Him: They will not believe.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran-range|95|4|6}}| We have indeed created man in the best of moulds, Then do We abase him (to be) the lowest of the low,- Except such as believe and do righteous deeds: For they shall have a reward unfailing.}}

{{Quote|{{Quran|98|6}}|Verily those who believe not, among those who have received the scriptures, and among the idolaters, [shall be cast] into the fire of hell, to remain therein [for ever]. These are the worst of creatures.}}

==See Also==

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Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Characteristics of Non-Muslims

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PW. Jansen: /* Non-Muslims are Unclean */

Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Characteristics of Non-Muslims

2014-08-17T06:37:19Z

PW. Jansen: /* Non-Muslims are Greedy */ Addition Non-Muslims are Unjust