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User talk:Lightyears

2025-01-30T19:41:49Z

Syegod101:

Dear [[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]]
I have completed the rough draft of 'Iddah article (https://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Lehrasap/Sandbox_1). It is requested to please have a look at it and advice the necessary edits and what to further do with it. Thanks.</br>
[[User:Lehrasap|Lehrasap]] ([[User talk:Lehrasap|talk]]) 23:03, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

== Mecca article ==

I have revised my proposed additions, mainly to standardise the references.
:Thanks Fernando, the ref formatting looks good, though a few extra tips will be useful: When you use the visual editor it seems to be adding the <code><nowiki><nowiki></nowiki></nowiki></code> tags to external links, which are not necessary (it's better if readers can click the link). I'm not sure why that's happening, but these tags can be removed via the source editor when you update the article itself if the same happens there (please feel free to go ahead and add your updates when you are ready).

:Quran verses should be cited using the <code><nowiki>{{Quran||}}</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>{{Quran-range|||}}</nowiki></code> templates so they can be conveniently clicked by readers to check for themselves on the Quranx website. Wikipedia pages (which we sometimes cite for general overviews) can be linked using another tag in a format like this <code><nowiki>[[w:Petra|Petra]]</nowiki></code>, ‘Climate’ and ‘Byzantine Period’ - Wikipedia.org [where the first parameter is the wikipedia article name and the second is the display text you want to use). I don't use the visual editor myself, but there's an option to insert templates and then search for quran or quran-range. If there's no means to use the <code><nowiki>[[w:]]</nowiki></code> tag in the visual editor it's fine to just use the normal linking feature instead.

:For Crone's article you currently only have a short version of the reference. This seems to be unintentional as your first revision on 10 September removed what was the full reference from your initial comments. It would be better to have the more complete version of the Crone reference for your page update. Similarly, for Tesei's article it's great to link the freely accessible academia copy but as well as giving the full reference. An example of a better format is the Tesei reference in the [[Prophecies in the Quran]] article.

Lightyears
I've updated the main article. I'm not sure whether it's public yet. When it is I'll delete the sandbox material to avoid confusion.

:Also, feel free to add the points you mentioned on the historical attestation of Muhammad talk page, though it should also be mentioned clearly that Ohlig is considered part of the Revisionist school of thought in Islamic studies, specifically the Inârah Institute who are considered a fringe group by other academic scholars. It looks like there is an intention to flesh out the empty sections at some point but it's fine to make those changes now. [[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 14:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

I've added more on David A. King. Thanks for the technical advice, I'll go over the whole thing tomorrow.
I'm not sure what you mean by a full reference. To include 'https://www.'? The examples you give don't seem to have this.
Regards Fernando
I can't work out how to edit footnotes. I suppose it's possible to delete and then add
:Hi, I'm away for a few days with only my phone, but I recommend the source editor if anything doesn't work well with the visual editor.

:By full refs I just meant this
:Patricia Crone, ''How Did the Quranic Pagans Make a Living? Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies,'' University of London, Vol. 68, No. 3 (2005), pp. 387-399. Available at http://www.jstor.org/stable/20181949, and in her ''Collected Studies'' (2016).

:Instead of simply Patricia Crone, ''[https://www.jstor.org/stable/20181949 How Did the Quranic Pagans Make a Living?]'' , also in her ''Collected Studies'' (2016).

:The first time a journal article is cited we need to give the full ref. The short version would be fine if it's cited again a 2nd time in the same article. I imagine that was your intention originally.

:Similarly this would be better:
:Tommaso Tesei [https://www.academia.edu/75302962/ The Qurʾān(s) in Context(s)] Journal Asiatique 309.2 (2021): 185-202

:Instead of just [https://www.academia.edu/75302962/_The_Qur%CA%BE%C4%81n_s_in_Context_s_Journal_Asiatique_309_2_2021_185_202 Tommaso Tesei]

[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 22:16, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Lightyears
I've made some more changes. Would it be possible to finalise the whole thing now? I've asked some questions, and other readers may have the answers.
:Sure, you can go ahead and add your work into the Mecca article itself. At some point we will add some further content/edits. [[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 00:10, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

== Hello, are you currently reviewing updates please? ==

Hey Lightyears - I hope you are well and have had a great holiday period! You've previously reviewed and accepted/edited many of my updates (and on the shooting stars page) - I was just checking if they were still coming through okay, as some have been here for about a month? Or if you're taking a break just let me know and I'll reach out to another editior. Cheers, CPO675
:Hi, due to external events recently I have had to concentrate on other things and have been unable to look at the wiki. Possibly that may change quite soon but otherwise ASmith should be able to help. [[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 23:17, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay no worries thank you! Will do (Y)

== Article of smoke ==

Hello i see that on the article of smoke someone said that hot gas should have been the word to describe the universe but there was no word for gas in 7th century Arabic if you could re-edit it or tell me another word that would have been better for it then that would be much appreciated [[User:Syegod101|Syegod101]] ([[User talk:Syegod101|talk]]) 05:16, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello? How come i dint get no responses? [[User:Syegod101|Syegod101]] ([[User talk:Syegod101|talk]]) 19:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

User talk:IbnPinker

2025-01-12T05:20:07Z

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=='Iddah Article==
Dear [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]]
I have completed the rough draft of 'Iddah article (https://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Lehrasap/Sandbox_1). It is requested to please have a look at it and advice the necessary edits and what to further do with it. Thanks.</br>[[User:Lehrasap|Lehrasap]] ([[User talk:Lehrasap|talk]]) 23:05, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

==I mentioned you and other Admins on two Articles, but No response after 1 week==
I am afraid, I am new and made mistake in mentioning you and other Admins, and therefor you people have not got the notifications. First one is the talk page of article "[https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Talk:The_Quran_and_Mountains The Quran and the Mountains]" And second one is my own [https://wikiislam.net/wiki/User_talk:Kamranlashari Talk page], where I started a new topic of "Quran and Expansion of the Universe".
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[[User:Kamranlashari|Kamranlashari]] ([[User talk:Kamranlashari|talk]]) 18:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

:: Hey, sorry. I was actually out of town travelling and didn't have access to the wiki during that time. Will follow up with you on your talk page. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 18:52, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

== How to ping other editors? ==

Hi, I asked a question [https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Talk:Rape_in_Islamic_Law# here]. How do I ping other editors to reply?-[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 17:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
:Hey Raman, you just did. If you want to ping an editor directly (so that they get a notification) you have to leave a comment on their talk page, as you just left on mine. As for talk pages for specific articles, editing these will not send a notification to any editor unless those editors are "watching" the page (the little selectable star icon in the top right of the screen). Since activity on the wiki is a bit slow right now, there may not be so many other editors to interact with, but do feel free to msg admins/anyone you see is active via the [[Special:RecentChanges]] page. I will go ahead and leave a reply to your question on the rape in islamic law page now. Also, if you haven't already, be sure to review the [[WikiIslam:Talk_Pages|talk page guidelines]] Hope that helps. --[[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 21:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
::Actually, I just looked into it a bit further. MediaWiki (the wiki software) may notify editors if you link to their page as such: [[User:Raman]]. Try tagging me on the rape in Islamic law page, and let me know if this tag here resulted in your receiving a notification. Thanks --[[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 21:25, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
::No, I did not get any notification.-[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 01:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
:::Alright, in that case you can only cause someone to receive a notification by posting on their talk page. I will look in to getting a feature added to the site that will result in users being notified any time they are "tagged" (their page linked-to, that is). Let me know if you need anything else.--[[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 02:32, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
::::I have made some edits to the [[Rape in Islamic Law]], [[Kafir (Infidel)]] and [[Zina]] articles, please check if they are acceptable. Thanks —[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 14:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your comment about a citation needed template. I made a simple one upon request a while back. https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Template:Citation_Needed It just adds the superscript tag, but if necessary it could at some point be enhanced with things like a link to the template / the relevant policy page, adding the page to a category like https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Category:Citations_Needed, adding an auto date and comment feature for the tooltip like on the wikipedia version. Alternatively, maybe the wikipedia one and its dependancies can be imported somehow.[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 19:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
:Wonderful, thank you. I will contact exmoose and see if those features can be added. --[[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 20:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
::I have copied some matter from the Wikipedia article on Zina to the WikiIslam article on [[Zina]], please check if it is acceptable. Thanks.—[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 21:13, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
:::I will take a look Raman. For future reference, start a new "thread" on a talk page if introducing a new topic (your comment is not related to the discussion with Lightyears above). Also, all your edits appear on the [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Edits Page]] (you don't have to notify anybody to get your edits approved - all the editors can see them on this page and they will be reviewed by an editor as time permits).--[[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 21:21, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi there if it possible please reintroduce https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars#Main_Page to the main page. Thanks. Sauron
: Will work on getting this done, thanks for the suggestion. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 21:47, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

==Reversions==
Hi, IbnPinker. [[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] reverted my edits and wrote a note [[User_talk:Raman#Please never edit quotes with your own words|here.]]
:He should have edited it to make it conform to the rules here but he reverted it instead. I feel someone more experienced should look at those sentences and edit them to be acceptable here on WikiIslam. Please check the sentences that he removed and add them back to both the articles he has mentioned. Thanks!-[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 10:45, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
== Wikiquote ==
The wikiquote article on [https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Kafir Kafir] has many quotations from the Qur'an. Please copy the verses from the Qur'an and add it to our article also.-[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 08:47, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
:This is a good idea. It may make more sense to post about it on the talk page for [[Kafir (Infidel)]] and/or to add it as a suggestion on [https://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Tasks#Fleshing_Out|the tasks page in the "fleshing out" section]. Check out [https://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_someone_do_XYZ_or_create.2Fedit_an_article_for_me.3F| this FAQ] as a general rule of thumb, by the way. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 18:22, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

==Wife beating==
Hi, in the wife beating article I originally added the part about Sunnah.com sanitizing the Dar-us-Salam translation after learning that the words on Sunnah had suddenly changed to "He gave me a nudge on my chest which I felt". I then checked the Dar-us-Salam edition which is their source translation (Kalamullah.com has the Dar-us-Salam hadith books as pdf scans) and confirmed that they had what Sunnah had used originally before the change: "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain". I just wanted to check whether you had found otherwise? If not, I can change back the explanation. In other words, it's a question of who did the sanitizing - Sunnah or their translation source, D-u-S. As far as I know Dar-us-Salam never changed their translation.
:Great catch, my mistake for missing the nuance there. I corrected it to fit the facts you provided. See what you think. Is the translation in the quotebox then taken from the dar-us-salam text or is it a translation by you/another editor. If it is from the original text, then that should also be mentioned in the article. I'm rewriting parts of the page atm to be more neutral/encyclopedic so maybe wait till tomorrow to make any changes or just lmk what else might need to be corrected and I can make the edit to save you time if that helps. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 00:04, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
::Thanks, that looks great. Yes, the translation in the box has the English sentence as found in the D-u-S text (and orginally Sunnah had the same). I just tweaked it slightly to make clear that the English shown here is the original translation, no attempt by us to translate.[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 00:25, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
:::Splendid. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 00:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

== Recent changes ==

Hi Ibnpinker,

as for the tasks page, I removed the tasks I put because I believe they are complicated topics to cover and it would be better to focus on the simpler issues

as for the mutah marriage, yes it seems I used uncredible info and there is a dispute to the authenticity of the narrations in this issue

as for the dhimmah page, i found out that the pact of umar has its own article on the wiki so no need to duplicate.

thanks

:Hey, thanks for following up. As for the tasks, you are correct - the pages you removed are of lesser priority. Thus, I have split the 'pages for creation' section into 'higher' and 'lower' priority and move those four suggested pages to the latter category. Regarding mutah marriage, could you instead qualify the language to indicate what is and what is not controversial? If it is all controversial but the existing text does represent one viewpoint, then you can edit the text to say something like 'while the specifics are debated, some hold that... and others disagree', or something to that effect - even better if you can provide sources on which party espouses a given view point. But so long as the text provided represents one legitimate view point, it can be made useful through qualification. Deletion seems counter productive. Finally, I think the Dhimma page would ultimately require a brief section on the pact of umar (without repeating the entire page) since summarizing other articles under related topics is a standard wiki practice (hence the 'main page' template seen used frequently [https://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=Women_in_Islamic_Law&stable=1 here], for instance). What do you think? [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 20:11, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

::hi ibnpinker. In light of the revamp wikislam is undergoing, i think it would be wiser if we keep the tasks page concise and including only the utmost imp topics hence why I removed them. As for the mutah marriage, I have revised the info i wrote and found it to be not accurate enough to represent the issue and a bit uncredible, hence why i removed it. I have taken screenshots of the data I wrote to further my research and rewrite this section with more credible info. btw do we have people who speak arabic on our team? i could use some help for an upcoming article idea. Thanks!

:::You make fair points. I removed the four somewhat obscure topics from the tasks page and accepted your edit to the women in islamic law page. if you intend on replacing that misleading info, please do be sure to getting around to replacing it at some point. Asmith and myself both know Arabic and can help if needed. Working with other editors would be better however since Asmith and I are busy with other work including setting up the Arabic wikiislam. Asmith is working on getting you access to our discord chat where you'll be able to talk with the other Arabic speaking editors. Hold tight till he can get you that, sorry for the delays - we are working on setting up additional security procedures atm. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 18:00, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
== Accepting edits ==
Hi, I added a sentence to the [[Rape in Islamic Law]] and [[Taliban]] articles.
Please approve it if you find it acceptable.-[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 00:50, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
: Edit approved. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 02:01, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
::Thanks. I added another couple of sentences to the [[Rape in Islamic Law]] and [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Muhammad and Booty]] articles. Please approve it if you find it acceptable.-[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 18:15, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, just letting you know about a discussion on the talk page of [[The_Quran_and_Mountains]] as you did some work on that recently and may wish to integrate some of the new edits[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 03:22, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
== Accepting edits (2) ==
Please accept my edits at [[Slavery_in_Islamic_Law]]. Thanks!-[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 15:41, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

== Accepting edits ==

Please accept my edits to the [[Zakat (Tax)]] article if you find it acceptable.-[[User:Mushrik|Mushrik]] ([[User talk:Mushrik|talk]]) 17:18, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
:Please accept my edits to the [[Jihad in Islamic Law]] article if you find it acceptable.-[[User:Mushrik|Mushrik]] ([[User talk:Mushrik|talk]]) 22:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
== Accepting edits (2) ==

Please accept my edits to the
[[Rape in Islamic Law]] article if you find it acceptable.-[[User:Mushrik|Mushrik]] ([[User talk:Mushrik|talk]]) 03:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
:Please accept my edits to the [[Rape in Islamic Law]] and [[Islam]] articles if you find it acceptable.-[[User:Mushrik|Mushrik]] ([[User talk:Mushrik|talk]]) 18:48, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

== Hello, are you currently reviewing updates please? ==

Hey IbnPinker - I hope you are well and have had a great holiday period! Other users previously reviewed and accepted/edited many of my updates but I've not had a response in about a month from them - so I was just checking if they were still coming through okay, as some have been here for about a month? Or if you're taking a break just let me know and I'll reach out to another editor. Cheers, CPO675

== Article of smoke ==

Hello i see that on the article of smoke someone said that hot gas should have been the word to describe the universe but there was no word for gas in 7th century Arabic if you could re-edit it or tell me another word that would have been better for it then that would be much appreciate [[User:Syegod101|Syegod101]] ([[User talk:Syegod101|talk]]) 05:20, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

User talk:AbdulHurayrah

2025-01-12T05:19:27Z

Syegod101: /* Article of smoke */ new section

==Mass deletion last December==
Please respond to this - https://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Discussions/Editor_Discussions#Mass_deletion_of_hundreds_of_pages
Nothing personal, just want to shed some light on this in an open and transparent manner.
(BTW, I googled your name, are you by any chance the same Abdul Hurayrah that is a Project Administrator @ EXMNA?) --[[User:Yaakovaryeh|Yaakovaryeh]] ([[User talk:Yaakovaryeh|talk]]) 01:19, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

== Article of smoke ==

Hello i see that on the article of smoke someone said that hot gas should have been the word to describe the universe but there was no word for gas in 7th century Arabic if you could re-edit it or tell me another word that would have been better for it then that would be much appreciate [[User:Syegod101|Syegod101]] ([[User talk:Syegod101|talk]]) 05:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

User talk:Exmoose

2025-01-12T05:18:54Z

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=='Iddah Article==
Dear [[User:Exmoose|Exmoose]]
I have completed the rough draft of 'Iddah article (https://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Lehrasap/Sandbox_1). It is requested to please have a look at it and advice the necessary edits and what to further do with it. Thanks.</br>
[[User:Lehrasap|Lehrasap]] ([[User talk:Lehrasap|talk]]) 23:02, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi.
Are you the current admin?
How can I contact anyone on exmna.org?

[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 11:54, 31 July 2016 (EDT)

== My editing rights ==

Hi. It looks like you have removed my mainspace editing rights. What's the reason? Now, unfortunately, there are many pending changes. The reader is the ultimate loser. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 14:51, 10 January 2017 (EST)
==Contribute please==
I have moved this article from wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad&oldid=782817488
to here (in case wiki deletes/censors it)
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad

Please contribute it and kindly help make it compatible with wikiislams wikicode--[[User:Bench|Bench]] ([[User talk:Bench|talk]]) 13:04, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

== [[Ali Sina]] ==

Hey, I'm trying to improve the article on Dr. Sina. could u let me know what i need to do to not get reverted?

== Hello, are you currently reviewing updates please? ==

Hello - I hope you are well :) Other users previously reviewed and accepted/edited many of my updates but I've not had a response in about a month from them - so I was just checking if they were still coming through okay, as some have been here for about a month? Or if you're taking a break just let me know and I'll reach out to another editor. Cheers, CPO675

== Article of smoke ==

Hello i see that on the article of smoke someone said that hot gas should have been the word to describe the universe but there was no word for gas in 7th century Arabic if you could re-edit it or tell me another word that would have been better for it then that would be much appreciate [[User:Syegod101|Syegod101]] ([[User talk:Syegod101|talk]]) 05:18, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

User talk:Lightyears

2025-01-12T05:16:14Z

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