Creation of Humans from Clay - Revision history

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	[[File:Khnum creation from clay.gif\|thumb\|right\|177px\|The ram-headed god Khnum, also known as "The Guardian of the Cataract" or "The Great Potter", was one of the earliest Egyptian deities and was said to have created mankind from clay.]]		[[File:Khnum creation from clay.gif\|thumb\|right\|177px\|The ram-headed god Khnum, also known as "The Guardian of the Cataract" or "The Great Potter", was one of the earliest Egyptian deities and was said to have created mankind from clay.]]
	This article analyzes the claim that the [[Qur'an]] displays [[Islam and Science\|scientific]] [[Islam and Miracles\|foreknowledge]] by correctly asserting the [[creation]] of human beings from clay.		This article analyzes the claim that the [[Qur'an]] displays [[Islam and Science\|scientific]] [[Islam and Miracles\|foreknowledge]] by correctly asserting the [[creation]] of human beings from clay.
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	The scientific hypothesis postulates that the clay merely 'match-makes' RNA and membrane vesicles - and therefore does not form a building block. This is contrary to the Islamic faith which postulates that human beings were created ''from'' clay, implying clay was a building block.		The scientific hypothesis postulates that the clay merely 'match-makes' RNA and membrane vesicles - and therefore does not form a building block. This is contrary to the Islamic faith which postulates that human beings were created ''from'' clay, implying clay was a building block.

	Notwithstanding this key distinction, is ~~Islam~~ the only religion which postulated the creation of human beings from clay?		Notwithstanding this key distinction, Islam is not the only religion which postulated the creation of human beings from clay.

	==Humans from Clay Story in Other Religions==		==Humans from Clay Story in Other Religions==
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	=== The jinn ===		=== The jinn ===
	Alongside humans being made from clay, the jinn are described as being made from a fire, ~~which interestingly~~ Harun does not apply the same problematic methodology to claim jinn are made of fire, in which we would expect to find living fire beings on Earth.		Alongside humans being made from clay, the jinn are described as being made from fire. Interestingly, Harun does not apply the same problematic methodology to claim jinn are made of fire, in which we would expect to find living fire beings on Earth.


			Qur'an:
	{{Quote\|{{Quran\|15\|26-27}}\|We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;		{{Quote\|{{Quran\|15\|26-27}}\|We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;

CPO675: /* The Scientific Hypothesis */ Have added in a small section on the missing evolution in these creation verses, and the selective application of not using the same 'methodology' of the phrase when applied to the jinn.

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The Scientific Hypothesis: Have added in a small section on the missing evolution in these creation verses, and the selective application of not using the same 'methodology' of the phrase when applied to the jinn.

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	==The Scientific Hypothesis==		==The Scientific Hypothesis==
	{{Quote\|[http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4307-clays-matchmaking-could-have-sparked-life.html Clay's matchmaking could have sparked life]<BR>Philip Cohen, NewScientist, October 23, 2003\|Two of the crucial components for the origin of life - genetic material and cell membranes - could have been introduced to one another by a lump of clay, new experiments have shown.		Other than the obvious missing of the scientific consensus of human creation through evolution,<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK230210/ ''Human Evolution.''] Science and Creationism: A View from the National Academy of Sciences: Second Edition. National Library of Medicine. 1999. Bookshelf ID: NBK230210.</ref> (''see: [[Evolution and Islam]] and [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Creation]]'') that one would expect to see in any basic creation account of humans and animals (there is also nothing about animals being made from clay which would follow Harun's incorrect interpretation of the verse), the account in the Quran still does not match the Harun Yahya's statement.{{Quote\|[http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4307-clays-matchmaking-could-have-sparked-life.html Clay's matchmaking could have sparked life]<BR>Philip Cohen, NewScientist, October 23, 2003\|Two of the crucial components for the origin of life - genetic material and cell membranes - could have been introduced to one another by a lump of clay, new experiments have shown.

	The study of montmorillonite clay, by Martin Hanczyc, Shelly Fujikawa and Jack Szostak at the Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, revealed it can sharply accelerate the formation of membranous fluid-filled sacs.		The study of montmorillonite clay, by Martin Hanczyc, Shelly Fujikawa and Jack Szostak at the Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, revealed it can sharply accelerate the formation of membranous fluid-filled sacs.
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	It is apparent that folkloric tales about the creation of humans from clay/earth/mud are very common throughout the world, and most of these tales pre-date the existence of Islam.		It is apparent that folkloric tales about the creation of humans from clay/earth/mud are very common throughout the world, and most of these tales pre-date the existence of Islam.

			== Additional points ==

			=== The jinn ===
			Alongside humans being made from clay, the jinn are described as being made from a fire, which interestingly Harun does not apply the same problematic methodology to claim jinn are made of fire, in which we would expect to find living fire beings on Earth.
			{{Quote\|{{Quran\|15\|26-27}}\|We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;

			And the Jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.}}{{Quote\|{{Quran\|55\|14-15}}\|He created man of a clay like the potter's, and He created the jinn of a smokeless fire.}}

	==See Also==		==See Also==

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Relevant Quotations

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	{{Quote\|{{Quran\|3\|59}}\|		{{Quote\|{{Quran\|3\|59}}\|
	Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.}}		Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.}}

			{{Quote\|{{Quran\|38\|71}}\|[So mention] when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I am going to create a human being from clay.}}

			{{Quote\|{{Quran\|17\|71}}\|And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam," and they prostrated, except for Iblees. He said, "Should I prostrate to one You created from clay?"}}

	==Apologetic Claim==		==Apologetic Claim==

Lightyears at 22:12, 10 August 2022

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 [[File:Khnum creation from clay.gif|thumb|right|177px|The ram-headed god Khnum, also known as "The Guardian of the Cataract" or "The Great Potter", was one of the earliest Egyptian deities and was said to have created mankind from clay.]]
 This article analyzes the claim that the [[Qur'an]] displays [[Islam and Science|scientific]] [[Islam and Miracles|foreknowledge]] by correctly asserting the [[creation]] of human beings from clay.
 ==Apologetic Claim==

IbnPinker at 23:38, 7 March 2021

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	==Humans from Clay Story in Other Religions==		==Humans from Clay Story in Other Religions==

	Many religions pre-dating (and some post-dating) Islam also carry this 'creation of human beings from clay' story. The earliest are the pre-cursors of the ~~[[Abrahamic Religions\|~~Abrahamic faiths]] - namely the early Mesopotamian religions.		Many religions pre-dating (and some post-dating) Islam also carry this 'creation of human beings from clay' story. The earliest are the pre-cursors of the Abrahamic faiths - namely the early Mesopotamian religions.

	===Assyro-Babylonian===		===Assyro-Babylonian===

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References

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IbnPinker at 00:52, 20 February 2021

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	It is apparent that folkloric tales about the creation of humans from clay/earth/mud are very common throughout the world, and most of these tales pre-date the existence of Islam.		It is apparent that folkloric tales about the creation of humans from clay/earth/mud are very common throughout the world, and most of these tales pre-date the existence of Islam.

	~~{{Core Science}}~~

	==See Also==		==See Also==

IbnPinker at 01:56, 13 November 2020

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	[[Category:Islam and Science]]		[[Category:Islam and Science]]
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	[[Category:Islamic Apologetics]]		[[Category:Islamic Apologetics]]
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