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The mass of the Earth is 5.97*10<sup>24</sup> kilograms. The mass of mountains is of much lower order, hence they have an infinitesimally small effect on the earth's moment of inertia. The earth's rotational speed and axial tilt are affected more by the distance of the moon from earth and [[w:Post-glacial rebound]] since the ice ages. | |||
===Mountains Absorb Some Waves During Earthquakes=== | ===Mountains Absorb Some Waves During Earthquakes=== | ||
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Scientific Errors in the Quran
Position of the Moon
Link [3]
The following verse is a compounded error since it mentions the position of the moon in the erroneous seven heavens. Verse 37:6 about stars in the first heaven must also be taken into consideration. The word "therein" does not reveal the exact position of the moon but any position above the first heaven would mean the moon is further away from the earth than stars which is not true. The moon is only 384,000 kilometres from earth whereas stars are light years away. Some translations say the moon is in the "midst" of all heavens which is a clear error.
"Therein" does not generally mean at the bottom or in an edge/corner. Even if the author meant that the moon is in the lowermost heaven, moonlight (reflected light from the sun) is noticeable only from the earth and it is insignificant compared to the much brighter stars which are sources of light. An all-knowing deity should not have termed the moon a light from a "heaven's" point of view.
Contradictions in the Qur'an and Hadith
Did Muhammad perform miracles?
Yes
No
Misc Issues
Errors in the Quran
- Constellations are Made by Allah
Constellations are essentially human observations of stars which are themselves many light years away from each other and from the earth. Light from a star takes as many years to reach us as its distance from earth in light years. So when we see a star of a constellation, or rather any star, it may not be in that location or it may have even ceased to exist. Thus, this verse reflects an observation by a naive author who simply credits Allah for the pattern of stars. Other translations say towers or mansions of stars instead of constellations but no such towers or mansions exist in the universe.
Pending review
Scientific Errors in the Hadith
Sins of Mankind Darkened the Black Stone
Milky Way
Temp
Adam from earth
[4] Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: that the Messenger of Allah said: "Indeed Allah Most High created Adam from a handful that He took from all of the earth. So the children of Adam come in according with the earth, some of them come red, and white and black, and between that, and the thin, the thick, the filthy, and the clean."
Forgive scholars
[5] It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Everyone in the universe, in the heavens and on earth, prays for forgiveness for the scholar, even the fish in the sea."
Scientific Errors in the Qur'an
Prophets of Islam were Sent to Every Nation
There is no evidence that prophets preaching Islam or similar beliefs were ever sent to China, Japan, Polynesia, Australia, South-East Asia, Central Asia, Scandinavia, the polar regions, most of Africa and the pre-Columbian Americas. Yet the Quran claims that every nation (or community) had a messenger.
Inanimate Objects Were Offered to Obey Allah but Feared Punishments
exp. yet to do, check tafsir [6]
Gender of the Baby is Decided After it Becomes a Clot
The Qur'an says that the embryo which is transforms from a sperm to a clot, then it is shaped and then the male or female sex is made. Modern genetics has shown that the sex of a human is decided at the moment of conception.[1] [2]
Mountains were Created in Four Days
Mountain formation has never happened in four days (or four long time periods). Ranges and lone mountains have each taken different timespans to form. For example, the Ural mountains were formed 250 to 300 million years ago over a period of nearly 90 million years.[3][4][5][6] The uplift of the Alps began 160 million years ago and it is ongoing.[7] The current volcano of Mount Fuji was formed 10000 years ago on top of another 100,000 years old volcano.[8]
Fruits are in pairs
Most translations and commentaries of this verse claim that all fruits are found in pairs of male and female. But fruits are formed when pollen fertilizes ovules and they do not have any gender.
Some translations imply that all fruits give rise to male and female plants or gametes. There is, however, considerable diversity in the reproductive morphology of plants which involves combinations of male, female or both organs, in same or separate flowers, which can be found on the same or separate plants depending upon the species. A definite "pair" cannot be construed for all fruit-bearing plants.
Shadows prostrate to Allah
Functions of Heart
In several verses, the Qur'an ascribes understanding and thinking to the heart instead of the brain.
Existing errors
Non_existent Mosque in Jerusalem
Muslims claim that Al-Aqsa mosque is mentioned in the Qur'an as the furthest mosque, even though there was obviously no mosque in Jerusalem during Muhammad's time. See also: [7]
Science and the Seven Earths
Seven Layers of Earth's Atmosphere
Secondly, this claim contradicts the Qur'an. The following verse says that stars are located in the lowermost heaven.
Stars are not located in the lowest layer of the atmosphere i.e. troposphere but are light years away from the earth.
Seven Universes
Another common apologetic claim is that these seven heavens are actually seven universes which we are yet to discover.
The following verse contradicts such a claim since it says rain was made to fall from heaven. Certainly, rain does not come from outer space. The word used for heaven here is sama, the same as that for the seven heavens.
Quran and Semen Production
Tahir Ul-Qadri
is created from a gushing fluid that is issued
from between sacrum and symphisis pubis (86:5-7)"There is no evidence that tara'ib can be translated as pubic symphisis. Even if Qadri's claim of a single word having a large number of meanings were true, tara'ib would have meant many organs other than the pubic symphisis. Those organs would have no relationship with the place where semen flows. It is a typical Texas sharpshooter fallacy to focus only on similarities between two sets of information and draw a conclusion while ignoring the differences. Qadri also ignores the testicles which produce the essential sperms. They are not situated in the zone he mentioned but below the symphisis.[9]
The Quran and Mountains
Mountains Stabilize the Earth's Rotation About its Axis
The mass of the Earth is 5.97*1024 kilograms. The mass of mountains is of much lower order, hence they have an infinitesimally small effect on the earth's moment of inertia. The earth's rotational speed and axial tilt are affected more by the distance of the moon from earth and w:Post-glacial rebound since the ice ages.
Mountains Absorb Some Waves During Earthquakes
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Such studies are sometimes quoted by apologists to prove their point. It is clear however, that earthquakes are not prevented. Only the waves are somewhat affected by the presence of mountains as proven in the above simulation. If there were an earthquake larger than 7.5 or if a settlement were situated between its epicenter and a mountain range, there would be widespread destruction anyway.
ref
- ↑ Harrison's principles of internal medicine. (17th ed. ed.). New York [etc.]: McGraw-Hill Medical. pp. 2339–2346. ISBN 978-0-07-147693-5, 2008.
- ↑ Rey,Rodolfo, MD, PhD, Josso, Nathalie MD, PhD. (). Chapter 7. Sexual Differentiation. Available: http://www.endotext.org/pediatrics/pediatrics7/pediatrics7.html. Last accessed may 21, 2011.
- ↑ Brown, D. and Echtler, H. (2005) "The Urals". In: R. C. Selley, L. R. M. Cocks & I. R. Plimer (eds.), Encyclopedia of Geology, Vol. 2. Elsevier, pp. 86–95.
- ↑ Cocks, L. R. M. and Torsvik, T. H. (2006) "European geography in a global context from the Vendian to the end of the Palaeozoic". In Gee, D. G. & Stephenson, R. A. (eds), European Lithosphere Dynamics. Geological Society, London, Memoirs, 32, 83–95.
- ↑ Puchkov, V. N. (2009). "The evolution of the Uralian orogen". Geological Society, London, Special Publications 327: 161. doi:10.1144/SP327.9.
- ↑ Brown, D.; Juhlin, C.; Ayala, C.; Tryggvason, A.; Bea, F.; Alvarez-Marron, J.; Carbonell, R.; Seward, D.; Glasmacher, U.; Puchkov, V.; Perez-Estaun, A. (2008). "Mountain building processes during continent–continent collision in the Uralides". Earth-Science Reviews 89 (3–4): 177. doi:10.1016/j.earscirev.2008.05.001.
- ↑ Geology of the Alps Part 1: General remarks; Austroalpine nappes
- ↑ The Birth of Fuji
- ↑ See images here [1] [2]
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