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==[[ | ==[[Mamta_Kulkarni_-_Conversion_to_Islam]] and [[Hans_Raj_Hans_-_Conversion_to_Islam]]== | ||
If the story can be confirmed it would be great but I think this needs further investigation. According to Wikipedia, she did convert to Islam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamta_Kulkarni | If the story can be confirmed it would be great but I think this needs further investigation. According to Wikipedia, she did convert to Islam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamta_Kulkarni | ||
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:::::In any case, MyMagic, do you think you could fix the remaining links on Mamta's page? [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Sandbox/Mamta_Kulkarni_%28Conversion_to_Islam%29]. Sahab has fixed the links for Hans' page [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Sandbox/Hans_Raj_Hans_%28Conversion_to_Islam%29]. For Mamta's page, they are links #1,2,4,5,6. I fixed links 3,7,8,9,10. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 19:04, 26 March 2014 (PDT) | :::::In any case, MyMagic, do you think you could fix the remaining links on Mamta's page? [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Sandbox/Mamta_Kulkarni_%28Conversion_to_Islam%29]. Sahab has fixed the links for Hans' page [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Sandbox/Hans_Raj_Hans_%28Conversion_to_Islam%29]. For Mamta's page, they are links #1,2,4,5,6. I fixed links 3,7,8,9,10. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 19:04, 26 March 2014 (PDT) | ||
::::::I fixed the URLs for Mamta Kulkarni. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 18:39, 27 March 2014 (PDT) | ::::::I fixed the URLs for Mamta Kulkarni. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 18:39, 27 March 2014 (PDT) | ||
{{outdent}}Both articles have been indexed by Google now (I searched for the page titles [e.g. mamta kulkarni wikiislam] and they were there) and should start getting regular traffic in a few months (the Sunita Williams page took that same amount of time). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 12:17, 5 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
:Views already starting to come in for both Mamta Kulkarni and Hans Raj, great work! --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 13:06, 6 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
==Outstanding Issues== | ==Outstanding Issues== | ||
===[[ | ===[[Mamta Kulkarni - Conversion to Islam|Mamta Kulkarni (Conversion to Islam)]]=== | ||
I guess this article is all that it can be right now. Should it be finalized or should we look for more links? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 19:22, 31 March 2014 (PDT) | I guess this article is all that it can be right now. Should it be finalized or should we look for more links? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 19:22, 31 March 2014 (PDT) | ||
:Since we have a ref proving that Facebook page is hers, I think it's definitely enough to start finalizing. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 20:58, 31 March 2014 (PDT) | :Since we have a ref proving that Facebook page is hers, I think it's definitely enough to start finalizing. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 20:58, 31 March 2014 (PDT) | ||
::Just a note for MyMagics; please do not misrepresent sources again. We take things like that very seriously here. You wrote "the story was that Kulkarni married converted to Islam along with her boyfriend Vicky Goswami, so that her boyfriend could be released from jail", but that is not what the sources you cite say at all. They actually imply she converted to marry him, not to set him free (because he had already done that by himself). [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 05:52, 2 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
:::I did a search myself and found a news article claiming what you wrote[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news-interviews/Mamta-Kulkarni-weds-jailed-lover-sets-him-free/articleshow/19983020.cms]<!-- http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftimesofindia.indiatimes.com%2Fentertainment%2Fhindi%2Fbollywood%2Fnews-interviews%2FMamta-Kulkarni-weds-jailed-lover-sets-him-free%2Farticleshow%2F19983020.cms&date=2014-04-02 -->. However, that report brings up more problems. It states that: | |||
:::''"A life sentence in Dubai is in effect 25 years, but prisoners can apply for early release on various grounds. Apart from good conduct, these include learning to recite passages from the Qu'ran or converting to Islam."'' | |||
:::You claim: | |||
:::''"There is no provision in UAE's law that if somebody convert to Islam, their sentence will be lowered."'' | |||
:::Do you have a reliable source we can use to confirm that? This is quite a major issue because the article will obviously be different depending on which of those statements is true. Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 07:13, 2 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
::::According to Wikipedia's article "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates Freedom of religion in the United Arab Emirates]": | |||
::::''"A list of Muslim converts is published annually. Prisoners who convert to Islam often receive a reduction in their sentences. In Dubai, prisoners (other than those facing life sentences) who memorize all or part of the Qur'an can receive a reduction in their sentences or a pardon, depending on the length of sentence and the number of sections memorized. The ruler of the Emirate of Ajman offers a cash award for prisoners who memorize all or part of the Qur'an."'' | |||
::::Wikipedia may not be the best source, but in the absence of any other, it will have to do. It also sounds about right. | |||
::::These aren't the only 2 problems with your contributions. You also state: | |||
::::''"After 1-2 months, Kulkarni was interviewed, it was her first interview in last few years. Kulkarni told that she never converted to Islam, neither she got married"'' | |||
::::I don't see anywhere in the sources you provided or in the BollywoodJournalist interview a denial concerning a conversion to Islam. | |||
::::What you are doing here with sources and how you present them is akin to Islam propaganda. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:08, 2 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
===[[Hans Raj Hans - Conversion to Islam|Hans Raj Hans (Conversion to Islam)]]=== | ===[[Hans Raj Hans - Conversion to Islam|Hans Raj Hans (Conversion to Islam)]]=== | ||
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Anyhow, could you please answer the following questions for us? | Anyhow, could you please answer the following questions for us? | ||
# What are the news stories about in the image posted under Yuvraj Hans' Facebook post? Are they claiming Hans converted or not? | |||
# Are Navraj and Yuvraj, Hans Raj Hans' only children? | |||
# You wrote that Hans Raj Hans rejected the claims of a conversion on February 21, but there are news reports available (including one you yourself used as a reference) that are dated February 20. Am I missing something here or was that an error on your part? Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 03:29, 30 March 2014 (PDT) | |||
::Obviously he rejected the conversion news. If he will keep talking about it, it may cause further suspecion. In fact, his sons(he got 2, not more) was enough. [[User:MyMagics|MyMagics]] ([[User talk:MyMagics|talk]]) 07:51, 12 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
::: Regarding #1, do you know the headlines for the newspapers shown in the [https://www.facebook.com/iamYuvrajHans/posts/475028412602140:0 Facebook post?] Are these newspaper headlines denials of the conversion, or are they propagating the false rumor? | |||
:::Could you also respond to the #2 and #3 points that Sahab made? Regarding #3, Sahab is asking about the date of the incident. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 08:31, 12 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
==Thanks for the 2 articles== | |||
You guys have done a great job with both articles. Thanks a lot! Sahab and Axius, God bless you! [[User:MyMagics|MyMagics]] ([[User talk:MyMagics|talk]]) 07:51, 12 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
:And thanks to you as well for taking the initiative to start the articles (even though it was not much more than a start). Sahab did most of the work. We have started getting traffic on both pages. The traffic will increase as more and more people link to it. According to traffic data, the false conversion story of [[Sunita_Williams_%28Conversion_to_Islam%29|Sunita Williams]] is the one of the 5 most popular pages on the site. | |||
:If you hear of any other popular false conversion stories that are going around on the internet let us know. At the least we can put it on the to-do list to create those articles. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 08:27, 12 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
== Leonel Messi == | |||
Muslims have rumored that he converted into Islam. | |||
What you think about it? [[User:MyMagics|MyMagics]] ([[User talk:MyMagics|talk]]) 20:02, 25 October 2014 (PDT) | |||
:Not sure at the moment how famous he is and I haven't looked into it. His name and Islam does bring up a lot of results but I dont know how many of those are related to the false conversion. [https://www.google.com/search?q=Leonel+Messi&oq=Leonel+Messi&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.248j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=%22Lionel+Messi%22+islam] but many are related to it. Do you know of any links or references? Mamta Kulkarni's page by the way is now a top 10 traffic page. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 05:07, 26 October 2014 (PDT) | |||
== New fake conversions == | |||
Lindsay Lohan :- | |||
: http://blog.sfgate.com/dailydish/2015/05/15/lindsay-lohans-rep-plays-down-islam-conversion-rumors/ | |||
: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/442268/Lindsay-Lohan-convert-Islam | |||
Liam Neeson | |||
: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/liam-neeson-not-converting-islam-article-1.2076302 | |||
John Brennan | |||
: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/11/rumor-check-ex-fbi-agent-claims-obamas-cia-nominee-is-really-a-secret-muslim-recruited-by-saudis/ | |||
: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/topics/john-brennan | |||
: http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/08/27/cia-director-john-brennan-is-a-muslim-convert/ | |||
Pretty sure that a lot can be written now. [[User:MyMagics|MyMagics]] ([[User talk:MyMagics|talk]]) 00:16, 8 November 2015 (PST) | |||
:I made a to-do list [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Category_talk:Fake_Conversions] linking to this section. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 04:06, 8 November 2015 (PST) | |||