User talk:Mushrik: Difference between revisions

Hey Raman, I replied to your messages on my talk page and on the rape in Islamic law page. --IbnPinker (talk) 21:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for volunteering. I reverted your edits on the Zina page because the rape was moved from the Hudood ordinance 1979 to the Pakistan Penal Code in 2006 (alluded to in the intro of the Rape article) and prosecuted very differently. Also, the language is too stretched to say a married woman rape victim "will" be accused of zina and punished. Rather, it's a high risk if she cannot prove that she was raped. So that could perhaps be re-added with better wording (also presumably even an unmarried rape victim can be accused of zina, though the punishment would be different). We need to be precise as possible when citing sources and do significant research on a topic before editing, especially if sources are 20 years old (the Pak example).

I similarly reverted changes on the Rape article for the above reason about Pak. Regarding the intro, when adding wording to a paragraph it's important to check that it doesn't intefere with an existing citation at the end of the sentence/paragraph (it's easy to accidentally add something that isn't in the source). In this case the source does mention that women can end up being accused of zina in modern courts, but not that this is Islamic law. I've readded the essence with different wording. The comment about rape of one's own slave being allowed could be readded, but I don't think necessary as it's clear from the rest of the article (and a bit tricky to phrase as we already argue scholars didn't consider it rape but we do). Lightyears (talk) 19:49, 27 November 2020 (UTC)