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=== Luqman (Luq'mān) === | === Luqman (Luq'mān) === | ||
==== Given special wisdom ==== | ==== Given special wisdom ==== | ||
Given special widsom (''l-ḥik'mata) ḥā kāf mīm (ح ك م)'' https://lexicon.quranic-research.net/pdf/Page_0617.pdf | Given special widsom (''l-ḥik'mata) ḥā kāf mīm (ح ك م)'' root - https://lexicon.quranic-research.net/data/06_H/152_Hkm.html) https://lexicon.quranic-research.net/pdf/Page_0617.pdf & https://lexicon.quranic-research.net/pdf/Page_0618.pdf | ||
Luqman - a pre-Islamic sage - did he exist? Was he most likely pagan? Historical error?{{Quote|{{Quran|31|12-13}}|And We had certainly given Luqman wisdom [and said], "Be grateful to Allah." And whoever is grateful is grateful for [the benefit of] himself. And whoever denies [His favor] - then indeed, Allah is Free of need and Praiseworthy. And [mention, O Muhammad], when Luqman said to his son while he was instructing him, "O my son, do not associate [anything] with Allah. Indeed, association [with him] is great injustice."}} | Luqman - a pre-Islamic sage - did he exist? Was he most likely pagan? Historical error?{{Quote|{{Quran|31|12-13}}|And We had certainly given Luqman wisdom [and said], "Be grateful to Allah." And whoever is grateful is grateful for [the benefit of] himself. And whoever denies [His favor] - then indeed, Allah is Free of need and Praiseworthy. And [mention, O Muhammad], when Luqman said to his son while he was instructing him, "O my son, do not associate [anything] with Allah. Indeed, association [with him] is great injustice."}} | ||
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{{Quote|{{Quran|13|15}}|To Allah prostrates whoever there is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and their shadows at sunrise and sunset.}}Everything in the cosmos (presumably covering the vast amounts of near-empty space and elements) worships and prostrated before him, as does every animal and angel, all allegedly fearing God ({{Quran|16|49-50}} {{Quran|22|18}}), including the birds, which do so while flying ({{Quran|24|41}}). | {{Quote|{{Quran|13|15}}|To Allah prostrates whoever there is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and their shadows at sunrise and sunset.}}Everything in the cosmos (presumably covering the vast amounts of near-empty space and elements) worships and prostrated before him, as does every animal and angel, all allegedly fearing God ({{Quran|16|49-50}} {{Quran|22|18}}), including the birds, which do so while flying ({{Quran|24|41}}). | ||
==== Inanimate objects | ==== Inanimate objects refused the task of being Gods followers, but humans accepted. ==== | ||
It is hard to know what was meant by this or why Allah would offer an inanimate object with no biology for consciousness (unless you think they're magic pegs in the Earth) that he already knew couldn't answer the task, nor how they refused it. (look at tafsirs (some such as al-Jalalayn say they could speak at that time: https://quranx.com/tafsirs/33.72, Ibn Kathir doesn't mention that but took it literally). | It is hard to know what was meant by this or why Allah would offer an inanimate object with no biology for consciousness (unless you think they're magic pegs in the Earth) that he already knew couldn't answer the task, nor how they refused it. (look at tafsirs (some such as al-Jalalayn say they could speak at that time: https://quranx.com/tafsirs/33.72, Ibn Kathir doesn't mention that but took it literally). | ||
Hard to see why humans would given natural risk aversion with the risk of hell being involved (Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky citation) | Hard to see why humans would given natural risk aversion<ref>Kahneman, Daniel, and Amos Tversky. “Prospect Theory: An Analysis of Decision under Risk.” ''Econometrica'', vol. 47, no. 2, 1979, pp. 263–91. ''JSTOR'', <nowiki>https://doi.org/10.2307/1914185</nowiki>. Accessed 14 Feb. 2025. | ||
See also: Kahneman, D. (2011). ''Thinking, fast and slow.'' ''Chapter 26: Prospect Theory.''</ref> with the risk of hell being involved (Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky citation) | |||
look for pre-Islamic for parallels. | look for pre-Islamic for parallels. | ||
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=== Allah speaks to the heavens/skies and the earth and they respond === | === Allah speaks to the heavens/skies and the earth and they respond === | ||
{{Quote|{{Quran|41|11}}|Then He turned towards the heaven when it was smoke, saying to it and to the earth, ‘Submit, willingly or unwillingly.’ They both responded, ‘We submit willingly.’"}} | {{Quote|{{Quran|41|11}}|Then He turned towards the heaven when it was smoke, saying to it and to the earth, ‘Submit, willingly or unwillingly.’ They both responded, ‘We submit willingly.’"}} | ||
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* Inanimate objects worship god: All created things naturally adore God {{Quran|13|13}} (Q 13:13: “the thunder adores by praising him”). See {{Quran|22|18}} "Have you not regarded that whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth prostrates to Allah, as well as the sun, the moon, and the stars, the mountains, the trees, and the animals and many humans?." | * Inanimate objects worship god: All created things naturally adore God {{Quran|13|13}} (Q 13:13: “the thunder adores by praising him”). See {{Quran|22|18}} "Have you not regarded that whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth prostrates to Allah, as well as the sun, the moon, and the stars, the mountains, the trees, and the animals and many humans?." | ||