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In many Islamic countries, insulting Islam or prophet Muhammad is already a crime with punishments, including killing^[4]. There is a campaign now to make it also a criminal offence in the western secular world too.

(1) Insulting Muhammad causes unbearable emotional harm to those who love him

UK Parliament Naz Shah urged to criminalise all acts that insult Prophet Muhammad:

(2) Negative comment on Muhammad should be a considered a criminal offense like Holocaust

It is a criminal offence in some European countries to make a negative comment about Holocaust^[5]. Prime Minister Imran Khan of Pakistan arguments that negative comment on Muhammad should be considered a criminal offence like Holocaust.

(1) Punishment of an "Oral" Insult could not be any "Physical" Punishment

There is a campaign for repealing the blasphemy laws^[6], under which many Western countries have already abolished the blasphemy laws completely in the recent times. The reason is that punishment of the any "oral" insult could not be any "physical" punishment.

Critics of blasphemy laws consider the modern Secular laws of the western countries to be in accordance with the Justice, where the punishment of oral insult is only the oral insult in reply.

(2) Where there is “Preaching”, there is also “Criticism”

Both preaching and criticism go hand in hand in the western secular law. Everyone is allowed to preach his religion/ideology, but then other is also fully allowed to differ and criticise. Western Secular laws provide with full freedom to preach your religion/ideology, which comes under the right of Freedom of Religion. At the same time, they also provide full freedom to criticise any religion/ideology under the right of Freedom of Expression.

(3) Where there is “Praise”, there is also “Insult”

Critics of blasphemy explains it as under:

(4)

Western Law is totally in accordance with Human Nature:

Anger is a part of human nature. It is a normal that people may become angry during debates due to the difference of opinions. And in anger, they may use harsh word for the opponents, or even curse or abuse them. And western law is thus based upon this exact human nature. It understand humans and their shortcomings.

Even the writer of Quran also showed exactly this human nature in Quran. When opponents didn't accept prophethood of Muhammad, then writer of Quran becomes "angry" and then he starts cursing and abusing the opponents in Quran.

• Allah is himself cursing  the non-Muslims in Quran at many places
• Allah is calling them to be similar like Donkeys and Dog and worst of the Creation in Quran.
• And Allah called Walid bin Mughira to be a “bastard” (Arabic: زنیم) in this Quran
• And Allah called his opponent as Abu Jahl (father of ignorance).
• And Allah cursed Abu Lahab and his wife in Quran.
• While “Authentic Tradition” in Sahih Bukhari (link) tells that Abu Bakr abused the ambassador of pagans by telling him to go and suck the clitoris of his goddess (named al-Laat). Muhammad was also present there and he kept silent and thus made such abusing of gods of non-Muslims to be Halal (permissible) in Shariah.

We are non-Muslims and according to our understanding there existed no Allah in the heavens, but it was Muhammad himself who was doing this drama of revelation. Thus we could understand when writer of Quran (i.e. Muhammad) showed this "human behaviour" when he became angry just like humans, and started cursing/abusing the opponents.

Muslims claim divine Allah has divine MORALS. Then question arises: "When even "Divine Allah" is not able to control upon his anger and he could cursing and abusing the opponents, how then could we expect from a "normal human being" to have full control upon his anger, and to show "better Morals" then even divine Allah?"

Muslim Claim: Islam indeed allows "criticism", but it should be in "Limits"

Answer: "But what are these so-called "Limits"? Again divine Allah  has divine morals. Still, this same Allah is saying "Bastard" to opponent in Quran (Verse 68:13), this same Allah is "Cursing" the opponents everywhere in Quran, this same Allah is saying "Donkey" and "Dogs" and "Worst of Creatures" to the opponents in this same Quran.

And Quran claims that Muhammad had the "Best Moral Character" (Quran 68:4 انک لعلی خلق عظیم ). Still this same Muhammad supported Abu Bakr when he abused the ambassador of Quraysh by saying: "Go and suck the CLITORIS of your goddess Laat" (Sahih Bukhari).

Therefore, even if there exist any limits, still these limits of criticism/insults should also at least stand there, where Allah and Muhammad were standing (i.e. if Allah/Muhammad were allowed to curse/abuse, then normal people should also be allowed to do it).

How could you expect from "Normal Humans" to show better "Morals" than Allah/Muhammad? And when divine Allah and Muhammad were unable to stay in those limits, how could you then expect from normal human beings to stay within these limits?

These are absolute double standards by Muslims when Allah/Muhammad curse/abuse then it is ok for them. But when non-Muslims curse/abuse, then they start crying "blasphemy" and then start killing the humans.  

(Quran 68:10-13) Heed not the type of despicable men,- ready with oaths, A slanderer, going about with calumnies, (Habitually) hindering (all) good, transgressing beyond bounds, deep in sin, Violent (and cruel),- with all that, base-born (bastard),-

Quran used all these bad words for Walid bin al-Mughirah. He didn’t accept that Muhammad was any prophet, but he said that Muhammad had lost his senses. Upon that Quran called him all these names including “bastard”. And then writer of Quran (i.e. Muhammad) abused Abu Lahab in these words:

(Quran Surah al-Lahab) May the hands of Abu Lahab perish! May he too perish! … He will suffer in a blazing fire, and so too will his wife. Around her neck will be a rope of palm fibre.

And then Muhammad changed the name of “Amr Ibn Hisham” in order to abuse him and started calling him “Abu Jahl (i.e. Father of Ignorance)”. This Amr Ibn Hisham was a very wise person, and Quraysh used to call him “Abu Hakam (i.e. Father of Wisdom)”. But he opposed Muhammad, thus Muhammad started abusing him by calling him “Abu Jahl”.

And then Allah:

• Calls Non-Muslims to be Kafirs in Quran
• CURSES them everywhere in Quran
• Abuses them by calling them “animals” (and at some places call them “worst than animals”)
• Abuses them by calling them “donkeys” and “dogs”
• Abuses them by calling them “worst of creatures”
• Calls them deaf and blind
• Calls them Fasiq (evil transgressors)
• Calls them Filthy and Unclean
• Calls them Fools for questioning illogical decision of Allah

Here are these Quranic Verses.

(Quran 2:89) فَلَعْنَةُ اللَّـهِ عَلَى الْكَافِرِينَ Allah's curse is on the unbelievers.

(Quran 2:161) نَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَمَاتُوا وَهُمْ كُفَّارٌ أُولَـٰئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ لَعْنَةُ اللَّـهِ وَالْمَلَائِكَةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ Those who reject Faith, and die rejecting,- on them is Allah's curse, and the curse of angels, and of all mankind;

(Quran 7:179) لَقَدْ ذَرَأْنَا لِجَهَنَّمَ كَثِيرًا مِّنَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ لَهُمْ قُلُوبٌ لَّا يَفْقَهُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ أَعْيُنٌ لَّا يُبْصِرُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ آذَانٌ لَّا يَسْمَعُونَ بِهَا أُولَـٰئِكَ كَالْأَنْعَامِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّ أُولَـٰئِكَ هُمُ الْغَافِلُونَ Already have We urged unto hell many of the jinn and humankind, having hearts wherewith they understand not, and having eyes wherewith they see not, and having ears wherewith they hear not. These are as the cattle - nay, but they are worse than cattle

(Quran 62:5) مَثَلُ الَّذِينَ حُمِّلُوا التَّوْرَاةَ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَحْمِلُوهَا كَمَثَلِ الْحِمَارِ يَحْمِلُ أَسْفَارًا بِئْسَ مَثَلُ الْقَوْمِ الَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا بِآيَاتِ اللَّـهِ وَاللَّـهُ لَا يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ The likeness of those who were charged with the Taurat, then they did not observe it, is as the likeness of the ass (donkey) bearing books, evil is the likeness of the people who reject the communications of Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.

(Quran 2:171) وَمَثَلُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا كَمَثَلِ الَّذِي يَنْعِقُ بِمَا لَا يَسْمَعُ إِلَّا دُعَاءً وَنِدَاءً صُمٌّ بُكْمٌ عُمْيٌ فَهُمْ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ

And the parable of those who disbelieve is as the parable of one who calls out to that which hears no more than a call and a cry; deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand. (Quran 5:60) قُلْ هَلْ أُنَبِّئُكُم بِشَرٍّ مِّن ذَٰلِكَ مَثُوبَةً عِندَ اللَّـهِ مَن لَّعَنَهُ اللَّـهُ وَغَضِبَ عَلَيْهِ وَجَعَلَ مِنْهُمُ الْقِرَدَةَ وَالْخَنَازِيرَ وَعَبَدَ الطَّاغُوتَ أُولَـٰئِكَ شَرٌّ مَّكَانًا وَأَضَلُّ عَن سَوَاءِ السَّبِيلِ

Say, "Should I tell you who will receive the worst punishment from God? Those whom God has condemned, afflicted with His anger, made apes out of them, swine and worshippers of Satan, will have the worst dwelling and will wander far away from the right path."

(Quran 7:176) وَلَوْ شِئْنَا لَرَفَعْنَاهُ بِهَا وَلَـٰكِنَّهُ أَخْلَدَ إِلَى الْأَرْضِ وَاتَّبَعَ هَوَاه فَمَثَلُهُ كَمَثَلِ الْكَلْبِ إِن تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْهِ يَلْهَثْ أَوْ تَتْرُكْهُ يَلْهَث ذَّٰلِكَ مَثَلُ الْقَوْمِ الَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا بِآيَاتِنَا فَاقْصُصِ الْقَصَصَ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ And if We had pleased, We would certainly have exalted him thereby; but he clung to the earth and followed his low desire, so his parable is as the parable of the dog; if you attack him he lolls out his tongue; and if you leave him alone he lolls out his tongue; this is the parable of the people who reject Our communications;

(Quran 47:12) إِنَّ اللَّـهَ يُدْخِلُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي مِن تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهَارُ وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا يَتَمَتَّعُونَ وَيَأْكُلُونَ كَمَا تَأْكُلُ الْأَنْعَامُ وَالنَّارُ مَثْوًى لَّهُمْ Surely Allah will make those who believe and do good enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; and those who disbelieve enjoy themselves and eat as the beasts eat, and the fire is their abode.

(Quran 74:51) فَمَا لَهُمْ عَنِ التَّذْكِرَةِ مُعْرِضِينَ كَأَنَّهُمْ حُمُرٌ مُّسْتَنفِرَةٌ   What is then the matter with them (Kuffar), that they turn away from the admonition. As they were frightened donkeys.

(Quran 7:166) فَلَمَّا عَتَوْا عَن مَّا نُهُوا عَنْهُ قُلْنَا لَهُمْ كُونُوا قِرَدَةً خَاسِئِينَ Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: Be apes, despised and hated.

(Quran 98:6) إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ أَهْلِ الْكِتَابِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ فِي نَارِ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أُولَـٰئِكَ هُمْ شَرُّ الْبَرِيَّةِ The disbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans will dwell forever in hell; they are the worst of all creatures.

(Quran 2:99) وَلَقَدْ أَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ آيَاتٍ بَيِّنَاتٍ وَمَا يَكْفُرُ بِهَا إِلَّا الْفَاسِقُونَ We have sent down to you clear revelations: no one can deny them except the evil transgressors.

(Quran 9:28) يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلاَ يَقْرَبُواْ الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ O Believers, the pagans are filthy and unclean. Do not let them come near to the Sacred Mosque after this year.

(Quran 8:55) إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَابِّ عِندَ اللَّـهِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا فَهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve

(Quran 2:142) سَيَقُولُ السُّفَهَاءُ مِنَ النَّاسِ مَا وَلاَّهُمْ عَن قِبْلَتِهِمُ الَّتِي كَانُواْ عَلَيْهَا قُل لِّلّهِ الْمَشْرِقُ وَالْمَغْرِبُ يَهْدِي مَن يَشَاءُ إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ The fools (pagans, hypocrites, and Jews) among the people will say, "What has turned them (Muslims) from their Qiblah [prayer direction (towards Jerusalem)] to which they were used to face in prayer." Say, (O Muhammad SAW) "To Allah belong both, east and the west. He guides whom He wills to a Straight Way."

And then we have the tradition from Sahih Bukhari (link) when Abu Bakr abused the ambassador of Quraysh by saying: “Go and such the stinky clitoris of your goddess Laat”, then Prophet Muhammad supported Abu Bakr in saying it by keeping quiet (known as “Hadith-e-Taqriri” in Islamic Sharia).

Note:

The words of Abu Bakr were so dirty that the English Translator of Sahih Bukhari “distorted (تحریف)” the  translation and hid the actual abusive words of  Abu Bakr:  This is pure “dishonesty” to do such distortion.

Arabic words of Abu Bakr are: فَقَالَ لَهُ أَبُو بَكْرٍ امْصُصْ بَظْرَ اللاَّتِ , which means (Abu Bakr said: “Go and suck the stinky clitoris of goddess Laat”)