Scientific Errors in the Qur'an

Hi Atheistig and welcome to WikiIslam. You have have made some massive changes to the Scientific Errors in the Qur'an page. These changes include removals and rewrites of entire sections. I would be very grateful if you could provide us with a thorough explanation to the reasons behind them. This is something that is needed before any of these changes can be accepted. Thanks. --Sahabah (talk) 01:20, 14 November 2013 (PST)


Hi Sahabah. New to wikiislam and not sure if I should be responding to your comment here or on your talk page. I was making my edits in response to a Task to:

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Rewrite the sparse commentary on Scientific errors in the Qur'an, getting rid of the poor English, poor attempts at humor and generally unprofessional and arrogant approach

I've tried to improve the clarity of some of the comments including grammar and remove any arrogant or overtly condescending language. I'm also attempting to consolidate similar sections to reduce the size of the outline and put related content and references together. I did remove a handful of minor points that were either weaker arguments or completely off topic. This included Quran references that had no explanation as to why it was an error (and it wasn't readily evident from the text itself) or were weak (i.e "The Sun is not a star" section shows a verse that itemized the sun separately from stars but this doesn't imply the sun is not a star). In effect, I'm trying to improve quality over quantity. There's a ton of information on that article, some of it good some of it bad, and I think improving the good points (including adding reference and refutations to common apologist counter-claims) and removing the bad ones will improve the overall readability and information of that page. I only updated less than 10% of the article and was hoping to improve other sections as well including rewriting the comments and reorganizing some points (like evolution) to be in the biology section, etc. --Atheistig (talk) 08:42, 14 November 2013 (PST)

Okay. Thanks for your reply. As a rule, edits by new users have to be checked, but please carry on. --Sahabah (talk) 08:50, 14 November 2013 (PST)
I would like to add that separate problems such as "Humans created from clay" or "Fall from paradise down to the earth" should keep their headings (although you can alter what exactly those headings are). The reason for this is that each problem should be easy to find via the contents list. Currently I notice that you have removed several headings. --Sahabah (talk) 08:57, 14 November 2013 (PST)
Sounds good. I'll put back some of those separate headings to make them easier to find in the content section. Should I continue to make all my changes first and then submit them or just submit as I go? I find the later to be easier as my schedule permits. --Atheistig (talk) 09:34, 14 November 2013 (PST)
Others may try to edit it as you're working on it. So, to get around this, I've created a sandbox and copy/pasted the entire page for you: User:Atheistig/Sandbox. You can edit that page at your own pace. Once you're finished, let me know and I'll check it then copy/paste the entire thing into the article. Thanks. --Sahabah (talk) 09:43, 14 November 2013 (PST)


Hi Sahahah,

I've finished up my changes and improvements to the Scientific Error article that's in my User:Atheistig/Sandbox. Please take check it out. Thank you.

--Atheistig (talk) 15:43, 16 November 2013 (PST)