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If you spent a very long time here, why dont you go ahead publishing its contents (partially) on other sites and blogs and forums? I know some sites will moderate out our posts but we need those who won't. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 11:07, 31 July 2014 (PDT) | If you spent a very long time here, why dont you go ahead publishing its contents (partially) on other sites and blogs and forums? I know some sites will moderate out our posts but we need those who won't. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 11:07, 31 July 2014 (PDT) | ||
:Hi Saggy. Thanks for the suggestion. However, I've done plenty of that already. Promoting/defending the site on forums, spreading the word to other websites, I even had my own blog (now inactive) where I promoted/defended the website. thereligionofpeace.com kindly featured a couple of my posts where I linked to this website (a very kind gesture from him, considering I had only recently created the blog itself). Had plenty of traffic from there and Reddit.com too. But after 5 years I have ended up leaving under what I feel are strained circumstances, so I wouldn't be interested in more of the same, at least not any time soon. I think my contributions to this site alone (minus the tech side of things which Axius handled) would be enough to make this website very nearly what it is today. So I may try to replicate that success with my own site if one of the guys/gals over at the FFI forum are willing to help me out on the tech side. Or I may inquire about joining with one of the already established sites. Some of the pages I've written (e.g. all of the [[Persecution]] pages, [[Priapism_-_Permanent_Erection|Priapism]], [[72 Virgins]], [[Fastest Growing Religion]], [[Responses_to_Apologetics_-_Muhammad_and_Aisha|Muhammad and Aisha]], [[Muslim Statistics]], [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Lying and Deception|Lying and Deception]], [[Muhammad in Other Scriptures]], [[Muhammad and History's 100 Most Influential People|The 100]], [[List_of_Genuine_Islamic_Inventions_Innovations_Records_and_Firsts|List of Genuine Islamic Inventions]], and [[Dr._Keith_Moore_and_the_Islamic_Additions|Dr. Keith Moore]], among others) are completely unique to this site or have never been done in such detail anywhere else. I feel this material has added to the library of Islam-criticism in general and has provided a lot of individuals with much needed information. I'm very proud of that and am content with knowing I did my bit, so I may not even continue at all with Islam. I'm honestly not sure at the moment. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 16:09, 31 July 2014 (PDT) | :Hi Saggy. Thanks for the suggestion. However, I've done plenty of that already. Promoting/defending the site on forums, spreading the word to other websites, I even had my own blog (now inactive) where I promoted/defended the website. thereligionofpeace.com kindly featured a couple of my posts where I linked to this website (a very kind gesture from him, considering I had only recently created the blog itself). Had plenty of traffic from there and Reddit.com too. But after 5 years I have ended up leaving under what I feel are strained circumstances, so I wouldn't be interested in more of the same, at least not any time soon. I think my contributions to this site alone (minus the tech side of things which Axius handled) would be enough to make this website very nearly what it is today. So I may try to replicate that success with my own site if one of the guys/gals over at the FFI forum are willing to help me out on the tech side. Or I may inquire about joining with one of the already established sites. Some of the pages I've written (e.g. all of the [[Persecution]] pages, [[Priapism_-_Permanent_Erection|Priapism]], [[72 Virgins]], [[Fastest Growing Religion]], [[Responses_to_Apologetics_-_Muhammad_and_Aisha|Muhammad and Aisha]], [[Muslim Statistics]], [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Lying and Deception|Lying and Deception]], [[Muhammad in Other Scriptures]], [[Muhammad and History's 100 Most Influential People|The 100]], [[List_of_Genuine_Islamic_Inventions_Innovations_Records_and_Firsts|List of Genuine Islamic Inventions]], and [[Dr._Keith_Moore_and_the_Islamic_Additions|Dr. Keith Moore]], among others) are completely unique to this site or have never been done in such detail anywhere else. I feel this material has added to the library of Islam-criticism in general and has provided a lot of individuals with much needed information. I'm very proud of that and am content with knowing I did my bit, so I may not even continue at all with Islam. I'm honestly not sure at the moment. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 16:09, 31 July 2014 (PDT) | ||
::You can try contacting Klingschor and TheRationalizer or post a message on the CEMB forum (the CEMB has a [http://councilofexmuslims.com/wiki/en/Main_Page wiki] too as you know). I know Klingschor made a post a long time ago on the CEMB forum wanting to create a new site. Maybe you can get together with these people and do something. The more websites there are for criticism of Islam the better. I'm pretty sure these people can arrange for some kind of tech help. I know TheRationalizer's email so let me know if you want to email him. They're both also from the UK and have good Youtube channels with lots of subscribers so they're somewhat accomplished and passionate about criticism of Islam. Unless one works alone they have to work through differences of opinions with other people so that will always be there when others are involved. | |||
::No one can be stopped from leaving the site or deciding not to contribute anymore. That's their wish. I've tried to be fair for example I have tried to prevent wrongful blocks and give editors more opportunities. I believe everyone has equal rights in deciding what should happen on the site. After observing that there were too many intense conflicts starting to take place I worked hard on thinking about how to create some [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Core_Principles#Community community guidelines] so people stop arguing over minor issues and instead focus on the content of the site. I added a nice [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/User:Axius quote] to my user page about this. You made those community guidelines from that long document I sent in email and you can tell how much I was bothered by conflicts to have written so much on the topic. But when someone maintains that kind of approach it usually means they are done with their activism and want to slow down or take a long break or just stop (which is fine but others shouldn't be held responsible for it in any way). I don't want to debate over this for long but yes if you want to leave that's your wish. Good luck in whatever you do in the future. All of us editors on the site and its thousands of visitors are very thankful to you for the work you've done and you're welcome to come back at any time. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:00, 31 July 2014 (PDT) | |||