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: The problem with this, apart from distracting the reader from the deception itself, is that we have no idea what the entirety of the verses/hadiths presented to them were. The only one's we are told about are the ones which were vague enough to not be outright incorrect and from which they were able to extract sound bites. By listing the only information we have it is easy to give the false impression that these people were only given a small collection of information, when in fact they were given lots of information and in most cases told Sheikh Zindani the information was outright contradictory to reality. It also wouldn't reflect Sheikh Zindani's approach of modifying the interpretation of the Arabic each time an objection was raised, so we wouldn't even get the verse/hadith text exactly as it was presented to the scientists. (See Pete Palmer page when complete for a description of this process). | : The problem with this, apart from distracting the reader from the deception itself, is that we have no idea what the entirety of the verses/hadiths presented to them were. The only one's we are told about are the ones which were vague enough to not be outright incorrect and from which they were able to extract sound bites. By listing the only information we have it is easy to give the false impression that these people were only given a small collection of information, when in fact they were given lots of information and in most cases told Sheikh Zindani the information was outright contradictory to reality. It also wouldn't reflect Sheikh Zindani's approach of modifying the interpretation of the Arabic each time an objection was raised, so we wouldn't even get the verse/hadith text exactly as it was presented to the scientists. (See Pete Palmer page when complete for a description of this process). | ||
::Ok. I see so its not known what was presented to them. Thats interesting. The fact the people who made this propaganda up did not list the 'evidence' itself for the public, shows they knew the public would not see the evidence as being strong. | ::Ok. I see so its not known what was presented to them. Thats interesting. The fact the people who made this propaganda up did not list the 'evidence' itself for the public, shows they knew the public would not see the evidence as being strong. | ||
::I read a few things around page 36 of that book. It was funny that they called this scientist 'evasive' many times. I will try to download a PDF of the book. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 04:40, 6 August 2014 (PDT) | ::I read a few things around page 36 of that book. It was funny that they called this scientist 'evasive' many times. I will try to download a PDF of the book. | ||
::There's some info on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Majeed_al-Zindani#Commission_on_Scientific_Signs_in_the_Quran_and_Sunnah Wikipedia] about the scientists' denials that would be repeated here. I havent looked at it closely though but I'll check later. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 04:40, 6 August 2014 (PDT) | |||