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The images of people getting killed on the streets and beheaded are from other incidents, like Dayaks vs Madurese in Kalimantan, in Sampit, Sambas, and Indonesians going on a witch hunt in Banyuwangi. | The images of people getting killed on the streets and beheaded are from other incidents, like Dayaks vs Madurese in Kalimantan, in Sampit, Sambas, and Indonesians going on a witch hunt in Banyuwangi. | ||
Dayaks (non-Muslims) and Malays (Muslims) both participated in killing Madurese (Muslims). It was not religious, but ethnic hatred. | Dayaks (non-Muslims) and Malays (Muslims) both participated in killing Madurese (Muslims). It was not religious, but ethnic hatred. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia-pacific/1186401.stm] | ||
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia-pacific/1186401.stm | |||
The images labeled as "Chinese" victims, are actually Madurese getting killed by Dayaks, or suspected "witches" getting killed in Banyuwangi. The people in those photos are all non-Chinese. | The images labeled as "Chinese" victims, are actually Madurese getting killed by Dayaks, or suspected "witches" getting killed in Banyuwangi. The people in those photos are all non-Chinese. | ||
The original sources can be seen here- | The original sources can be seen here- [http://www.fica.org/hr/lain/lain4.htm] [http://www.fica.org/hr/ambon/ambon1/Sanggauledo1.html] [http://www.fica.org/hr/ambon/ambon1/Sanggauledo2.html] [http://www.oocities.org/~budis1/article/head_hunter2.htm] [http://www.fica.org/hr/Sanggauledo.html] [http://ceritaindonesia.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/dayak-vs-madura1.jpg] | ||
http://www.fica.org/hr/lain/lain4.htm | |||
http://www.fica.org/hr/ambon/ambon1/Sanggauledo1.html | |||
http://www.fica.org/hr/ambon/ambon1/Sanggauledo2.html | |||
http://www.oocities.org/~budis1/article/head_hunter2.htm | |||
http://www.fica.org/hr/Sanggauledo.html | |||
http://ceritaindonesia.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/dayak-vs-madura1.jpg | |||
You can see that the Banyuwangi riots were not related to Muslims vs non-Muslims. | You can see that the Banyuwangi riots were not related to Muslims vs non-Muslims. [http://www.insideindonesia.org/weekly-articles/the-banyuwangi-murders] | ||
http://www.insideindonesia.org/weekly-articles/the-banyuwangi-murders | |||
There IS real religious violence in Indonesia, like the images of the girl beheaded by Islamists in Sulawesi, but these other images are incorrect. | There IS real religious violence in Indonesia, like the images of the girl beheaded by Islamists in Sulawesi, but these other images are incorrect. | ||
These are the specific images which should be removed- | These are the specific images which should be removed- [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_17.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082447&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e1.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145124&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e2.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145136&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e3.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145149&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e4.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145205&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e5.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145219&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e6.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145232&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_19.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082509&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e7.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145244&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e8.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145256&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_10.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082327&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_13.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082403&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_15.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082425&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_17.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082447&] [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e9.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145309&] | ||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_17.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082447& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e1.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145124& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e2.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145136& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e3.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145149& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e4.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145205& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e5.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145219& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e6.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145232& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_19.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082509& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e7.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145244& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e8.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145256& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_10.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082327& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_13.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082403& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_15.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082425& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_17.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082447& | |||
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e9.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145309& | |||
Its because some idiots on internet forums in China heard what was going on in Indonesia in May 1998 with looting of Chinese stores and rapes, so when they looked up "Indonesia riots" on the internet, they got the wrong photos, and pasted these photos all over their forums. This is how these photos originally got mislabelled. | Its because some idiots on internet forums in China heard what was going on in Indonesia in May 1998 with looting of Chinese stores and rapes, so when they looked up "Indonesia riots" on the internet, they got the wrong photos, and pasted these photos all over their forums. This is how these photos originally got mislabelled. | ||
In Myanmar, some Islamists falsely took photos of Tsunami victims, earthquake victims in China, and of Tibetan protestors setting themselves on fire, and labelled them as Rohingya Muslims getting killed by Burmese Buddhists. | In Myanmar, some Islamists falsely took photos of Tsunami victims, earthquake victims in China, and of Tibetan protestors setting themselves on fire, and labelled them as Rohingya Muslims getting killed by Burmese Buddhists. [http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2012/0803/Pakistan-s-extremists-whip-up-frenzy-over-Burma-s-Muslims] [http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/12867/social-media-is-lying-to-you-about-burmas-muslim-cleansing/] [http://www.irrawaddy.org/rohingya/canadian-ngo-protests-rohingya-misinformation.html] [http://archive.thedailystar.net/beta2/news/where-lies-reign-supreme/] [http://www.globalresearch.ca/fake-photos-with-dead-bodies-in-media-reports-on-myanmar-conflict/5302994] [http://tibet.net/2012/08/04/pak-extremists-exaggerating-violence-against-burmas-muslims-to-fund-own-agendas/] | ||
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2012/0803/Pakistan-s-extremists-whip-up-frenzy-over-Burma-s-Muslims | |||
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/12867/social-media-is-lying-to-you-about-burmas-muslim-cleansing/ | |||
http://www.irrawaddy.org/rohingya/canadian-ngo-protests-rohingya-misinformation.html | |||
http://archive.thedailystar.net/beta2/news/where-lies-reign-supreme/ | |||
http://www.globalresearch.ca/fake-photos-with-dead-bodies-in-media-reports-on-myanmar-conflict/5302994 | |||
http://tibet.net/2012/08/04/pak-extremists-exaggerating-violence-against-burmas-muslims-to-fund-own-agendas/ | |||
What happened here is not deliberate like what those Islamists did, but it still needs to be corrected. In fact you can create an article about fake images used by Islamists in the Rohingya conflict instead.[[User:Cleft|Cleft]] ([[User talk:Cleft|talk]]) 23:22, 10 August 2014 (PDT) | What happened here is not deliberate like what those Islamists did, but it still needs to be corrected. In fact you can create an article about fake images used by Islamists in the Rohingya conflict instead. [[User:Cleft|Cleft]] ([[User talk:Cleft|talk]]) 23:22, 10 August 2014 (PDT) | ||
:Cool. Thanks for that info. I will read through those links you provided and sort them out soon when I get time. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 01:04, 11 August 2014 (PDT) | :Cool. Thanks for that info. I will read through those links you provided and sort them out soon when I get time. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 01:04, 11 August 2014 (PDT) | ||