User talk:Maxime: Difference between revisions

Hi Maxime. Thank you for all your effort, but I've just been having a read of your French translation of "Allah the Best Deceiver", and it is not a close translation. You are altering the tone of our articles and that is not acceptable.

For example, most of the following introductory text is not in the English version (and if they were, it wouldn't be allowed on the site in that state):

'''French (google translation)...'''

{{Quote||The Qur'an often openly declares that Allah is the best misleading, of course Muslims hide it with another translation thanks to the richness of the Arabic language, of course they know it would drive away interested in Islam or Muslims of birth would discover the Koran. Before you begin, you should know that the root of the word found in the verses we will analyze is "Makr" clearly means "deception." }}

{{Quote||To recap, the Koran is not ashamed to frankly describe Allah as the "best deceiver" literal translations presented here will clearly confirm the meaning of the root word "Makr" as "fraud / deception." It should be noted that the majority of the Koran is also very wrongly translated, as we shall see in the following quotes and analysis.

Although there are many verses using the same word (Machir) with reference to Allah [1] This article will focus exclusively on the verses where Allah himself is described as the best deceiver.}}

...'''Vs. Original English:'''

{{Quote||The Qur'an openly states many times that Allah is the 'best deceiver'. The root word used in these verses is Makr which means deception.}}

{{Quote||The Qur'an openly states many times that Allah is the 'best deceiver'. The root word used in these verses is Makr which means deception. The literal translations presented here, referenced from a Muslim website, make this very clear. However, the majority of Qur'anic translations erroneously translate this term; as can be seen in the following quotes and analysis.

Although there are many places in the Qur'an that use the same word (makir) in reference to Allah,[1] this article will focus only on the verses in which Allah describes himself as the 'best deceiver'.}}

Please fix these problems, because as things are, this will not be allowed into the main space. There are plenty of completed examples available for you to see what we expect from translations, so I don't see what your problem is with providing us with more accurate ones. When I have some time, I will also be checking your other contributions to our existing French translations. If their tone has also been lowered, I will be also reverting your changes to them.

Also your really long note at the top of the page should not be there. It should either be on the article's talk page (e.g. see: [[Talk:Pedophilie dans le Coran]]) or at the bottom under the title "Notes de traduction (Translation Notes)".  

Let me ask you this; if the original opening statement simply said, ''"The Qur'an openly states many times that Allah is the 'best deceiver'. The root word used in these verses is Makr which means deception,"'' why did you feel the need to add all of that sensationalist nonsense about Muslims hiding the real meaning to attract converts and to stop other Muslims from leaving Islam? Did you NOT read those links Axius provided you earlier? Clearly, you did not otherwise you would have known that it goes against our [[WikiIslam:Core Principles|Core Principles]]. So please read them. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 03:59, 30 December 2014 (PST)