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 ** There are also "seven verses" (15:87), "seven people" (18:22), "seven nights" (69:7), "seven seas" (31:27) mentioned one time non-miracles.
 * Taking the one case where the number of verses is 7 and acting as if this represents the Qur'an's eloquent numerology is dishonest and misleading. It could be also described as "cherry picking" logical fallacy.
+=="Creation of heavens" mentioned 7 times==
+This word count doesn't make sense from the beginning. If this phrase would occur 7 times, than the most direct meaning would be "the heaven'''s''' were created seven times", while they were created only one time. The plural form doesn't fit in this miracle. If the singular form "creation of a heaven" was mentioned 7 times, it would make more sense. It would mean that they were created one after another.
+There are many verses which say that Allah created everything, that means including the heavens. For example:
+* 6:102 "..there is no god but He; the '''Creator of all things''', therefore serve Him, and He has charge of all things."
+So counting only the cases where heavens are explicitly mentioned is questionable.
+There are also verses where the words "creation" and "heavens" are both mentioned, but not exactly next to each other (as a phrase). For example:
+* 7:185 "Do they not consider the kingdom of '''the heavens''' and the earth and whatever things '''Allah has created''', and that may be their doom shall have drawn nigh; what announcement would they then believe in after this?"
+These verses contain a phrase about creating the heavens:
+* 1) 2:29 "He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth, and He directed Himself to the heaven, '''so He made them complete seven heavens''' (فَسَوَّىٰهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَٰوَٰتٍ, ''fasawwahunna sabAAa samawatin''), and He knows all things."
+* 2) 2:164 "Most surely in the '''creation of the heavens''' (خَلْقِ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰت, ''khalqi assamawati'') and the earth..."
+* 3) 3:190 "Most surely in '''the creation of the heavens''' (خَلْقِ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalqi assamawati'') and the earth and the alternation of the night and the day there are signs for men who understand."
+* 4) 3:191 "Those who remember Allah standing and sitting and lying on their sides and reflect on the '''creation of the heavens''' (خَلْقِ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalqi assamawati'') and the earth: Our Lord! Thou hast not created this in vain! Glory be to Thee; save us then from the chastisement of the fire"
+* 5) 6:1 "All praise is due to Allah, Who '''created the heavens''' (خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalaqa assamawati'') and the earth and made the darkness and the light; yet those who disbelieve set up equals with their Lord."
+* 6) 6:73 "And He it is Who has '''created the heavens''' (خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalaqa assamawati'') and the earth..."
+* 7) 6:101 "Wonderful '''Originator of the heavens''' (بَدِيعُ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''BadeeAAu assamawati'') and the earth!"
+* 8) 7:54 "Surely your Lord is Allah, Who '''created the heavens''' (خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalaqa assamawati'') and the earth in six periods of time.."
+* 9) 9:36 "Surely the number of months with Allah is twelve months in Allah´s ordinance since the day when He '''created the heavens''' (خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalaqa assamawati'') and the earth"
+* 10) 10:3 "Surely your Lord is Allah, Who '''created the heavens''' (خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalaqa assamawati'') and the earth..."
+* 11) 11:7 "And He it is Who '''created the heavens''' (خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalaqa assamawati'') and the earth "
+* 12) 14:19 "Do you not see that Allah '''created the heavens''' (خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰت, ''khalaqa assamawati'') and the earth..."
+* 13) 14:32 "Allah is He Who '''created the heavens''' (خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalaqa assamawati'') and the earth ..."
+* 14) 15:85 "And We did not '''create the heavens''' (خَلَقْنَا ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ, ''khalaqna assamawati'') and the earth and what is between them two but in truth..."
+* ...and many others.
+So just in the first 15 chapters, the Qur'an speaks much more than 7 times about the creation of heavens. There are many ways to count this and if some of those ways produces the number 7 it is not miraculous, nor improbable, because the more ways of counting exist, the higher is the probability of the existence of a counting method, which produces the desired number.
+==="Seven earths" not mentioned 7 times non-miracle===
+According to the Quranic verse 65:12, there are also 7 earths. So the counting method which produces the outcome of "seven heavens" should be used for counting "creation of earths" and produce the same number. But apologist websites never mention "7 earths mentioned 7 times miracle".
 == "Wine" and "intoxication" both mentioned 6 times ==