12 months miracle in the Quran: Difference between revisions

Just a small correction as someone pointed out that 365 days does not exclude bi and waw prefixes
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* (*) In these 3 cases the word itself seems to be in the singular and that is how apologists get to the number 12, but from the context we can clearly see that it is meant to be plural.  
* (*) In these 3 cases the word itself is in the singular because in Arabic when you say 'X something' and X is greater than ten, the 'something' following the number is singular even though the meaning is plural. That is how apologists get to the number 12, but from the context we can clearly see that the meaning is plural.  
** 9:36 - .. ٱثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا .. - .. tweleve months ..
** 9:36 - .. ٱثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا .. - .. twelve months ..
** 46:15 - .. ثَلَٰثُونَ شَهْرًا .. - .. thirty months ..
** 46:15 - .. ثَلَٰثُونَ شَهْرًا .. - .. thirty months ..
** 97:3 - .. أَلْفِ شَهْرٍ .. - .. thousand months ..
** 97:3 - .. أَلْفِ شَهْرٍ .. - .. thousand months ..
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=== Main ===
=== Main ===
* The word شهر does not appear in the Qur'an 12 times, but 21 times.
* The word شهر does not appear in the Qur'an 12 times, but 21 times.
* The word شهر appears 9 times in the singular.
* The word شهر appears 9 times with a singular meaning.
* The word شهر in its basic form (consisting only of the trilateral root ش - ه - ر (shin - ha - ra) without any suffix/prefix letters and while ignoring the differences in diacritics) appears 4 times in the Qur'an.
* The word شهر in its basic form (consisting only of the trilateral root ش - ه - ر (shin - ha - ra) without any suffix/prefix letters and while ignoring the differences in diacritics) appears 4 times in the Qur'an.


=== Other ===
=== Other ===
* Apologists used a different method of word counting for the "12 months miracle", than for the "[[365 days miracle in the Quran|365 days miracle]]", because otherwise they wouldn't get those "miraculous" numbers.
* In the verse 9:36, apologists count one occurence of the word as singular and the other as plural, although they are clearly both referring to the same set of months:
** They didn't count the word day with bi- (ب) prefix in the "365 days miracle", but now they do count the word month with the bi- prefix
** They didn't count the word day with waw- (و) prefix in the "365 days miracle", but now they do count the word month with the waw- prefix.
* In the verse 9:36, apologists count one occurence of the word as singular and the other as plural, although they are clearly both reffering to the same set of months:
** "Surely the number of *months* [counted as plural] with Allah is twelwe *months* [counted as singular]..."
** "Surely the number of *months* [counted as plural] with Allah is twelwe *months* [counted as singular]..."
** "...*إِنَّ عِدَّةَ *ٱلشُّهُورِ* عِندَ ٱللَّهِ ٱثْنَا عَشَرَ *شَهْرًا"
** "...*إِنَّ عِدَّةَ *ٱلشُّهُورِ* عِندَ ٱللَّهِ ٱثْنَا عَشَرَ *شَهْرًا"
* If we accept that there are 12 singulars, 2 duals and 7 plurals, then what is the miracle about the numbers 2 and 7? Or 9 (2+7)? Are there 7 months of something? Isn't Allah powerful enough to make all the numbers miraculous? And thus make it undeniable that this is a miracle and not a coincidence?
* If we accept that there are 12 singulars, 2 duals and 7 plurals, then what is the miracle about the numbers 2 and 7? Or 9 (2+7)? Are there 7 months of something? Isn't Allah powerful enough to make all the numbers miraculous? And thus make it undeniable that this is a miracle and not a coincidence?
* Apologists are content to use a verse (9:36) that defines the Islamic lunar year as 12 months, or 354 days, while in the 365 days miracle claim they use the solar year on which the Gregorian calendar is based.


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==See also==
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