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==Scientific Errors== | ==Scientific Errors== | ||
Hi. That page uses title-case for capitalization of headings[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Standardization#Section_headings]. And there should not be multiple Qur'an translations used to illustrate a single error (i.e choose only one translation from the USC site). Both those errors were in your first edit to the page but I fixed them[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title= | Hi. That page uses title-case for capitalization of headings[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Standardization#Section_headings]. And there should not be multiple Qur'an translations used to illustrate a single error (i.e choose only one translation from the USC site). Both those errors were in your first edit to the page but I fixed them[http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran&diff=102143&oldid=102140]. You have repeated those same errors in your second edit. You will have to fix them before your edits can be considered. Thanks. [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 13:27, 5 January 2014 (PST) | ||
:I've reverted your edit again. You are aware this talk page discussion has been initiated. If you do not understand something here, the answer is not to reinsert whatever was reverted with a summary saying "btw I don't understand". That's basically ignoring this talk page. If you don't understand something then ask. [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 19:07, 9 January 2014 (PST) | :I've reverted your edit again. You are aware this talk page discussion has been initiated. If you do not understand something here, the answer is not to reinsert whatever was reverted with a summary saying "btw I don't understand". That's basically ignoring this talk page. If you don't understand something then ask. [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 19:07, 9 January 2014 (PST) | ||
::Not much time . ok , what am I to do to caps? If u revert instead of correcting (which is a loss to the readers), others dont mind? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:48, 10 January 2014 (PST) | ::Not much time . ok , what am I to do to caps? If u revert instead of correcting (which is a loss to the readers), others dont mind? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 02:48, 10 January 2014 (PST) | ||
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== Inheritance Laws == | == Inheritance Laws == | ||
I thought I'd ask you since you've been interested in the errors/contradictions topics. Inheritance laws ([[ | I thought I'd ask you since you've been interested in the errors/contradictions topics. Inheritance laws ([[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#Mathematical_Error_in_Hereditary_Laws]]) have had some responses like [http://www.khalidzaheer.com/qa/615] and [http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/the_inheritance_law__by_ansar_al__adl]. | ||
Do you know how to respond to these rebuttals and see if there's anything to investigate here? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:56, 12 March 2014 (PDT) | Do you know how to respond to these rebuttals and see if there's anything to investigate here? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:56, 12 March 2014 (PDT) | ||
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== Rain/miraculous == | == Rain/miraculous == | ||
This is another of those weaker errors [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/ | This is another of those weaker errors [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran#Rain_has_Miraculous_Effects]. | ||
: Remember He covered you with a sort of drowsiness, to give you calm as from Himself, and he caused rain to descend on you from heaven, to clean you therewith, to remove from you the stain of Satan, to strengthen your hearts, and to plant your feet firmly therewith. | : Remember He covered you with a sort of drowsiness, to give you calm as from Himself, and he caused rain to descend on you from heaven, to clean you therewith, to remove from you the stain of Satan, to strengthen your hearts, and to plant your feet firmly therewith. | ||
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== Moon Position == | == Moon Position == | ||
Once again the addition you added [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title= | Once again the addition you added [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran&curid=9078&diff=107595&oldid=107587] is not an error in my opinion. Its just describing what things look like to humans (aesthetically). The verse literally does not mean "the moon is placed between the seven layers". It is talking about what it looks like to humans. | ||
The seven layers is an error, that we know (and that error is present on the page I think) but the "moon is among them" just means what it appears to people on Earth. Lightyears if you see this, any thoughts on this addition? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 16:06, 23 May 2014 (PDT) | The seven layers is an error, that we know (and that error is present on the page I think) but the "moon is among them" just means what it appears to people on Earth. Lightyears if you see this, any thoughts on this addition? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 16:06, 23 May 2014 (PDT) | ||
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== Scientific errors - response blog == | == Scientific errors - response blog == | ||
Here's a blog that has some "refutations" of a small amount of errors. [http://quran-errors.blogspot.com/] These should be checked and used to further strengthen [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/ | Here's a blog that has some "refutations" of a small amount of errors. [http://quran-errors.blogspot.com/] These should be checked and used to further strengthen [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran our page] (without needing to specifically mention this blog). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 04:17, 14 June 2014 (PDT) | ||
:*'''Universe contracting/Heaven is from Smoke:''' Why talk about galaxys and gas clouds? The verse says earth and heaven were coming together (and talking to Allah). Earth is as old as Galaxies? Nope. | :*'''Universe contracting/Heaven is from Smoke:''' Why talk about galaxys and gas clouds? The verse says earth and heaven were coming together (and talking to Allah). Earth is as old as Galaxies? Nope. | ||
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::::::::By the way that blog link now has some kind of notice saying that the author is going to stop writing responses for now and write better responses later on. He says (the username is ' .. guy', so) that some of our error sections that he addressed were removed or edited in reaction to his content and I dont think thats true. If he's watching he's most welcome to create a user account and join this discussion. | ::::::::By the way that blog link now has some kind of notice saying that the author is going to stop writing responses for now and write better responses later on. He says (the username is ' .. guy', so) that some of our error sections that he addressed were removed or edited in reaction to his content and I dont think thats true. If he's watching he's most welcome to create a user account and join this discussion. | ||
::::::::As for revisions/deletions/additions, we have always improved our work and that's a good thing for any kind of work. | ::::::::As for revisions/deletions/additions, we have always improved our work and that's a good thing for any kind of work. | ||
::::::::He also implies that we inserted the "under construction" notice recently or in reaction to his blog's content but we did it in [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title= | ::::::::He also implies that we inserted the "under construction" notice recently or in reaction to his blog's content but we did it in [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran&diff=103064&oldid=103063 January] (6 months ago) before this blog was noticed and I think it has been on that page before as well. I doubt he'll make these corrections as he probably wants his readers to believe what he originally said (that makes his blog look better). | ||
::::::::Here's another 'rebuttal' link [http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/faithfreedom-wikiislam] on another site/forum. | ::::::::Here's another 'rebuttal' link [http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/faithfreedom-wikiislam] on another site/forum. | ||
::::::::You can see why its critical to have this page in the best shape possible. In my opinion none of these rebuttals have really addressed the errors but they may still have content that can be used to improve our page(s). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 15:49, 29 June 2014 (PDT) | ::::::::You can see why its critical to have this page in the best shape possible. In my opinion none of these rebuttals have really addressed the errors but they may still have content that can be used to improve our page(s). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 15:49, 29 June 2014 (PDT) | ||
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::::::::"So far they have removed various areas - some of which I addressed." | ::::::::"So far they have removed various areas - some of which I addressed." | ||
:::::::I have asked him twice to tell us what areas we removed or edited and he hasn't responded and until he does that and is specific about which areas/sections/errors he's talking about he cannot make the claim that the areas, some of which he addressed were removed or edited. | :::::::I have asked him twice to tell us what areas we removed or edited and he hasn't responded and until he does that and is specific about which areas/sections/errors he's talking about he cannot make the claim that the areas, some of which he addressed were removed or edited. | ||
:::::::So ThatMuslimGuy, can you support your claim by telling us which sections that you addressed on your blog were removed? Here's a link to the [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title= | :::::::So ThatMuslimGuy, can you support your claim by telling us which sections that you addressed on your blog were removed? Here's a link to the [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran&offset=&limit=250&action=history page history.] You can use the Diff links to go back in time to show you older versions of the page. You can give us Diff links and tell us which sections you're talking about. Here's one example of a Diff link. [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an&diff=107485&oldid=107473 Diff] link or you can just copy paste the URL(s) here. [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Adverse_Effects_of_Islamic_Fasting Happy Ramadan.] (a favorite article of mine) --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 15:18, 2 July 2014 (PDT) | ||
::::::::: Hey guys, In the past yeah we have thought about doing that. Saggy - Removing multiple points on the site, rewriting sections, adding additions etc - I would say is big change to the article, In my post no where have I asserted you changed the article because of me or anything alike. I simply detailed that I recently checked out the page and that you had added that on the top of the page and removed some points, some of which I had written about, hence rendering those posts on my blog now void. | ::::::::: Hey guys, In the past yeah we have thought about doing that. Saggy - Removing multiple points on the site, rewriting sections, adding additions etc - I would say is big change to the article, In my post no where have I asserted you changed the article because of me or anything alike. I simply detailed that I recently checked out the page and that you had added that on the top of the page and removed some points, some of which I had written about, hence rendering those posts on my blog now void. | ||