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He [Ibn al-Qasim, Imam Malik’s companion for twenty years] said: Yes [the hadd will be ‎implemented].‎
He [Ibn al-Qasim, Imam Malik’s companion for twenty years] said: Yes [the hadd will be ‎implemented].‎


I said: What if he said to a non-Arab, ‘Oh Persian!’, while he is a Roman? Or he said to a ‎Berber, ‘Oh Ethiopian!’ or ‘Oh Persian!’? Or he said to a Persian, ‘Oh Roman!’ or ‘Oh ‎Nabatean!’? Will the hadd be implemented in this case according to Imam Malik or not?‎
I said: What if he said to a non-Arab [''mawla''], ‘Oh Persian!’, while he is a Roman? Or he ‎said to a Berber, ‘Oh Ethiopian!’ or ‘Oh Persian!’? Or he said to a Persian, ‘Oh Roman!’ or ‎‎‘Oh Nabatean!’? Will the hadd be implemented in this case according to Imam Malik or ‎not?‎


He said: Malik said: When it is said to a Persian, ‘Oh Roman!’, ‘Oh Ethiopian!’, or ‎something similar, then there is no hadd with regard to this. And it was differed upon ‎about Malik regarding whether or not the one who says to the Roman or Berber, ‘Oh ‎Ethiopian!’ would have the hadd upon him. And I think that there is no hadd upon him ‎‎[the criminal] except if he says to him [the victim], ‘Oh son of a black person!’ while he ‎‎[the victim] is white. If there are among his [the victim’s] forefathers none who are black, ‎then the hadd is implemented. And if he [the criminal] described him [the victim] as an ‎Ethiopian, saying, ‘Oh son of an Ethiopian!’, and he [the victim] was a Berber, then the ‎Ethiopian and the Roman [descriptions] in this case are the same [that is,] if he [the ‎victim] was a Berber – and it [i.e. this ruling] is the best of what I have heard from the ‎speech of Malik. And it [i.e. this ruling] was confirmed with me unless it were said to him ‎‎[the victim], ‘Oh son of a black person!’, for that would be clear slander if there were no ‎black person among his forefathers.‎
He said: Malik said: When it is said to a Persian, ‘Oh Roman!’, ‘Oh Ethiopian!’, or ‎something similar, then there is no hadd with regard to this. And it was differed upon ‎about Malik regarding whether or not the one who says to the Roman or Berber, ‘Oh ‎Ethiopian!’ would have the hadd upon him. And I think that there is no hadd upon him ‎‎[the criminal] except if he says to him [the victim], ‘Oh son of a black person!’ while he ‎‎[the victim] is white. If there are among his [the victim’s] forefathers none who are black, ‎then the hadd is implemented. And if he [the criminal] described him [the victim] as an ‎Ethiopian, saying, ‘Oh son of an Ethiopian!’, and he [the victim] was a Berber, then the ‎Ethiopian and the Roman [descriptions] in this case are the same [that is,] if he [the ‎victim] was a Berber – and it [i.e. this ruling] is the best of what I have heard from the ‎speech of Malik. And it [i.e. this ruling] was confirmed with me unless it were said to him ‎‎[the victim], ‘Oh son of a black person!’, for that would be clear slander if there were no ‎black person among his forefathers.‎
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I said: What if I [Sahnun, being a criminal] slandered a man and then that man [the ‎victim] left Islam, thereafter returned to Islam, and then demanded of [i.e. against] me ‎the hadd [that it should be imparted against Sahnun] -  Would you smite [i.e. lash] me for ‎him or not?‎
I said: What if I [Sahnun, being a criminal] slandered a man and then that man [the ‎victim] left Islam, thereafter returned to Islam, and then demanded of [i.e. against] me ‎the hadd [that it should be imparted against Sahnun] -  Would you smite [i.e. lash] me for ‎him or not?‎
He said: There is no hadd upon his [the revert’s] slanderer [i.e. the criminal].‎
He said: There is no hadd upon his [the revert’s] slanderer [i.e. the criminal].‎
He, Ibn al-Qasim, said: If he [the criminal] slandered him, and then he [the criminal] left ‎Islam, or if he [the criminal] slandered him while he [the criminal] was an apostate ‎‎[''murtad''], then the hadd would be implemented against him [the criminal] while he ‎‎[the criminal] was an apostate – and if he [the criminal] repented [i.e. returned to Islam], ‎then the hadd would be implemented against him [the criminal] just as well. And if ‎someone [being a criminal] slandered him [the victim] while he [the victim] was an ‎apostate, and then he [the victim] repented, then there would be no hadd upon him [the ‎criminal]. And if someone [being a criminal] slandered him [the victim] before he [the ‎victim] apostatized, and then he [the victim] apostatized, then there is no hadd upon the ‎slanderer [i.e. the criminal] if he [the victim] repents [i.e. returns to Islam] – and indeed ‎this is similar to the case of a man who was slandered with [the accusation of] ‎fornication but was not taken thus for the hadd [i.e. not punished or prosecuted] until he ‎‎[the victim] [actually] fornicated, for then [also] there is no hadd upon whoever ‎slandered him.‎}}{{Quote|{{citation|title=al-Shifa bi-ta'rif huquq al-Mustafa|author=Qadi Iyad|publisher=al-Maktaba al-Shamila|url=https://app.turath.io/book/1753|volume=2|page=217, 234}}; translated in {{citation|editor=Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley|Publisher=Madinah Press Inverness|location=Scotland|year=2004|title=Ash-Shifa of Qadi 'Iyad|pages=375, 387|url=https://archive.org/details/MuhammadMessengerOfAllahAshShifaOfQadiIyad}}|[Qadi Iyad repeats this twice:] Ahmad b. Abi Sulayman, '''the companion of Sahnun, said, 'Anyone who says that the Prophet was black (''aswad'') should be killed.''''}}
He, Ibn al-Qasim, said: If he [the criminal] slandered him, and then he [the criminal] left ‎Islam, or if he [the criminal] slandered him while he [the criminal] was an apostate ‎‎[''murtad''], then the hadd would be implemented against him [the criminal] while he ‎‎[the criminal] was an apostate – and if he [the criminal] repented [i.e. returned to Islam], ‎then the hadd would be implemented against him [the criminal] just as well. And if ‎someone [being a criminal] slandered him [the victim] while he [the victim] was an ‎apostate, and then he [the victim] repented, then there would be no hadd upon him [the ‎criminal]. And if someone [being a criminal] slandered him [the victim] before he [the ‎victim] apostatized, and then he [the victim] apostatized, then there is no hadd upon the ‎slanderer [i.e. the criminal] if he [the victim] repents [i.e. returns to Islam] – and indeed ‎this is similar to the case of a man who was slandered with [the accusation of] ''zina'' ‎‎[fornication/adultery] but was not taken thus for the hadd [i.e. not punished or ‎prosecuted] until he [the victim] [actually] committed ''zina'' [fornication/adultery], for ‎then [also] there is no hadd upon whoever slandered him.‎}}{{Quote|{{citation|title=al-Shifa bi-ta'rif huquq al-Mustafa|author=Qadi Iyad|publisher=al-Maktaba al-Shamila|url=https://app.turath.io/book/1753|volume=2|page=217, 234}}; translated in {{citation|editor=Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley|Publisher=Madinah Press Inverness|location=Scotland|year=2004|title=Ash-Shifa of Qadi 'Iyad|pages=375, 387|url=https://archive.org/details/MuhammadMessengerOfAllahAshShifaOfQadiIyad}}|[Qadi Iyad repeats this twice:] Ahmad b. Abi Sulayman, '''the companion of Sahnun, said, 'Anyone who says that the Prophet was black (''aswad'') should be killed.''''}}
==Race and Tribe in Islamic doctrine==
==Race and Tribe in Islamic doctrine==


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