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| ::::Its nice that you have been researching hadiths and verses and some of your other additions have been fine so yea, continue that. I recommend you do it like this as its easier: Put all of the interesting verses and hadiths you come across in your own temporary Sandbox page, and when you have a certain number, start inserting them into the relevant pages (after a good review). And then you can go back and search some more. This is easier than finding one quote, inserting, finding another and inserting etc. In the Sandbox you also have more freedom to write what you want until its finalized: [[User:Saggy/Sandbox]], [[User:Saggy/Sandbox for QHS]]. etc --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 05:23, 5 April 2014 (PDT) | | ::::Its nice that you have been researching hadiths and verses and some of your other additions have been fine so yea, continue that. I recommend you do it like this as its easier: Put all of the interesting verses and hadiths you come across in your own temporary Sandbox page, and when you have a certain number, start inserting them into the relevant pages (after a good review). And then you can go back and search some more. This is easier than finding one quote, inserting, finding another and inserting etc. In the Sandbox you also have more freedom to write what you want until its finalized: [[User:Saggy/Sandbox]], [[User:Saggy/Sandbox for QHS]]. etc --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 05:23, 5 April 2014 (PDT) |
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| Lets see how these changes look. I moved all visitor related links to the top and the Editor related links to the left for easier access. Visitors who are 99% of the people visiting this site can look in that Navigation box while Editors can see what they want on the left for easier access. In my opinion Editors are more important than visitors. We can get visitors and thats easy; we already have a lot of them so lets pay more importance to editing which is a problem. This is more inviting to editors and its telling them they are important. Lets see how it feels for a while. The bad thing is its pushing content down but there's no other way for now.
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| Later we can also try reverting and moving everything below Editing. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 15:18, 26 April 2014 (PDT)
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| :Reverting back for now with a few changes - Editing section is given higher priority, Recent changes is moved to Editing, policies and Core principles have also been moved to Editing.
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| :Still trying to find a good menu navigation system. Making the site look like Wikipedia is not a priority. A site is not judged to be good because it looks like Wikipedia but because it has good content and is easy to navigate and makes it easy for people to find what they're looking for (this is good web design). Making it easy for people to navigate the site is of higher priority. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 19:20, 28 April 2014 (PDT)
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| :::The [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs first] is a strange way of doing breadcrumbs. The [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs2 2nd] is the right one which will need manual creation of the breadcrumb data. Its up to Sahab and I can install it if he wants that. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 05:33, 16 December 2014 (PST)
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| I'm in touch with TheRationalizer and have told him that I hope he joins us. I commented on Klingschor's Youtube channel and invited him too but he may not have read it so I will try to create a formal invitation and deliver the invite to them personally and we can also show the invite on the website (which can also be an introduction for them containing information about the internet presence and their areas of interest).
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| :::::::Axius, I've created that page now[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Taqiyya] (it's a mix of my writing and the dhimmi views from Wikipedia). Let me know what you think. I would stress the need to watch that page carefully. If editors start editing it and claiming lying = taqiyya then it would impact the site's accuracy and credibility in a big way. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:08, 22 August 2014 (PDT) | | :::::::Axius, I've created that page now[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Taqiyya] (it's a mix of my writing and the dhimmi views from Wikipedia). Let me know what you think. I would stress the need to watch that page carefully. If editors start editing it and claiming lying = taqiyya then it would impact the site's accuracy and credibility in a big way. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:08, 22 August 2014 (PDT) |
| ::::::::Yup great job, looks great. Its definitely better to have this stub for everyone's sake. I havent tried to understand it in detail but I get the general idea. If anyone wants to change the article they would have to get pretty authentic sources to change the meanings. I was also not clear on the meaning of the term myself until a few years ago so its good to have this page for everyone. Seeing this page and the QHS:Lying page, many people will realize these are two different things and the QHS:Lying of course is a unique collection not available anywhere else. This should also make people who wanted to have a page on it. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 16:38, 22 August 2014 (PDT) | | ::::::::Yup great job, looks great. Its definitely better to have this stub for everyone's sake. I havent tried to understand it in detail but I get the general idea. If anyone wants to change the article they would have to get pretty authentic sources to change the meanings. I was also not clear on the meaning of the term myself until a few years ago so its good to have this page for everyone. Seeing this page and the QHS:Lying page, many people will realize these are two different things and the QHS:Lying of course is a unique collection not available anywhere else. This should also make people who wanted to have a page on it. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 16:38, 22 August 2014 (PDT) |
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| Guys, you are invited to review my edits. There are too many and the admins currently do not have time to review them. They are major additions proposed at [[User:Saggy/Sandbox - Issues with Quran and Hadith]]; categorised by article. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 05:16, 22 August 2014 (PDT)
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| Hello. I looked at the links to the Hadiths concerning killing dogs and restricting to killing black dogs from this page: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Inspired_by_Muhammad#Killing_Dogs
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| It seems that the links do not take you to the hadiths you are quoting. Maybe the site was updated or whoever created the page made a mistake. I thought you should know.
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| ^^^^ Hey, guys, you sure did not think about people using other font size than yours ! The icon menu overlapped the text zone on my system (Linux Mint 17) ;-)
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| OK. I have a WHOLE LOT of French texts about islam, that I wrote myself, (PDF, LibreOffice...) and even a French Mediawiki database (which I have on my computer for persnal use, but which is not connected to the Net) about the subject. Do you have use for them ? How can I upload them, if the answer is yes ?
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| The database in MySql dump format can be downloaded from there under the name xxx.txt.
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| The PDF "Monsieur Ha Ca" can be downloaded from there too. [[User:François Paganel|François Paganel]] ([[User talk:François Paganel|talk]]) 18:42, 15 December 2014 (PST)
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| :Do wikipedia pages come out ok? How about The main [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki Mediawiki] site? Your OS is not a common choice so its probably not worth trying to fix it.
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| :For your other content it depends on what the quality is. Please dont upload anything before showing a sample of the writing. Also currently we dont have any french editors on the site to review the material. Can you upload it on a regular website like a blog, or just make a temporary sandbox here for one of your pages you want to show? That facebook page shows an error (not available). Its strange that you've uploaded a Mediawiki wiki database... to Facebook.com? I dont understand how thats possible. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 05:38, 16 December 2014 (PST)
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| ::Hi François. Without a trusted French administrator who understands this site's policies and guidelines, it is not possible for us to fully judge the quality of original works, hence why the policies state that sub-domains can only be started when there are a front page's worth of translations (about 25-35 articles) and one reliable editor, and only then are they "free to evolve separately to the English site in style and {{underline|content}}".
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| ::The content may be great, but we have no way to evaluate it completely. Looking at what you wrote on your user page isn't encouraging, it suggests to me that the content will most likely be breaking a whole host of WikiIslam's policies, both for style and content.
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| :::"Its strange that you've uploaded a Mediawiki wiki database... to Facebook.com?"
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| :::I mean I updated of course its MySQL '''dump''' in ASCII form so anybody can recreate it quickly on his/her own machine. 3,8 Mo (3 758 022 octets) :-) [[User:François Paganel|François Paganel]] ([[User talk:François Paganel|talk]]) 13:06, 21 December 2014 (PST)
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| Volunteer needed! Editors! Help me to create the topic Pederasty by Muhamad.
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| I believe Pederasty by Muhammad and also Racism should be core topics.
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| :I would like to see a translation of [[72 Virgins]]. We have others listed here [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Translations#Articles_to_Translate]. If you tell me which article you want to do and its translated title, I can make a copy of that page that you can edit. | | :I would like to see a translation of [[72 Virgins]]. We have others listed here [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Translations#Articles_to_Translate]. If you tell me which article you want to do and its translated title, I can make a copy of that page that you can edit. |
| :I also renamed that image to a better file name and inserted a disclaimer. See this part of the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_is_the_religious_persuasion_of_the_contributors_to_WikiIslam.3F FAQ]. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 18:27, 17 August 2015 (PDT) | | :I also renamed that image to a better file name and inserted a disclaimer. See this part of the [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_is_the_religious_persuasion_of_the_contributors_to_WikiIslam.3F FAQ]. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 18:27, 17 August 2015 (PDT) |
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| :It was definitely working yesterday clicking links from wikiislam. I think it's probably just gone down temporarily (has happened before)[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 17:15, 18 October 2016 (EDT)
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| ::The current hadith template is probably causing an Enter. See [[Glossary of Islamic Terms#M|the last part of this section]]. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 15:00, 3 January 2017 (EST) | | ::The current hadith template is probably causing an Enter. See [[Glossary of Islamic Terms#M|the last part of this section]]. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 15:00, 3 January 2017 (EST) |
| :::Thanks, I think it's fixed now. There are also some minor issues with the usc hadith numbers in the data set on QuranX that I'm also helping them fix.[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 15:55, 3 January 2017 (EST) | | :::Thanks, I think it's fixed now. There are also some minor issues with the usc hadith numbers in the data set on QuranX that I'm also helping them fix.[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 15:55, 3 January 2017 (EST) |
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| When I am in an article and click "Printable version" I can make a nice PDF out of that article. I think you could upload somewhere (I wouldn't overload this site) a big zip with all articles in PDF. And then people who might have limited internet access could study offline also. Maybe they can't access wikiislam, but they can download the bunch of PDFs somewhere. And also if there was a printed version, that would be also great. Doesn't have to be everything, it could be "The Best of WikiIslam" for example. [[User:Prekladator|Prekladator]] ([[User talk:Prekladator|talk]]) 19:38, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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| ==Mass deletion of hundreds of pages==
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| I recently came across a couple of links to dead pages ([[Islam Science and the Problems at Wikipedia]], [[Notable Former Muslims]], and [[People Who Left Islam]]) and noticed that they were all deleted by the same user - AbdulHurayrah (at the same time - 20:25, 26 December 2018). So I looked into it and found that in his first 2 days of editing, he deleted over 700 pages (at least a quarter of the pages on the site):
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| @ 20:25, 26 December 2018 he deleted 403 pages including:
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| 150 "farsideology" pages, 28 "Videos on Islam" pages, 24 "The Root of Terrorism" pages, 19 "Mind of the Musulman" pages, 18 "Islam on the Net" pages, 13 "Islam Illustrated" pages, and about 150 other random pages including the 3 I previously mentioned (I didn't go thru all of them, but one particularly interesting looking one that caught my eye was [[The Handbook to Debating Non-Muslims]]).
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| @ 14:24, 27 December 2018 he deleted 320 "former Muslim" pages.
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| @ 16:17, 28 December 2018 he was indefinitely blocked by Damaskin for Vandalism.
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| @ 16:28, 28 December 2018 he was unblocked by Damaskin.
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| I presume the deletions were in good faith to make Wikiislam more objective, less hostile, more palatable to Muslims, etc. and it might even be right, but what troubles me most is the total lack of any apparent/transparent discussion/consensus prior to this sudden mass deletion (by a new editor). (Not to mention all the wasted time and effort that must have gone into those pages). --[[User:Yaakovaryeh|Yaakovaryeh]] ([[User talk:Yaakovaryeh|talk]]) 01:13, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
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| ::I think he explained somewhere that this is exmna's plan. They were planning "massive overhaul" of wikiislam. To delete bad pages and rewrite the good ones. I'm not sad that they deleted farsideology, because it was a joke. This website should be more about facts and arguments. But I wasn't very happy when they edited my article "Mary, the sister of Aaron, in the Qur'an". They've written on reddit that they will delete "conclusions". And yes they deleted the title "Conclusions" and left the text of the conclusion there, so now it seems that the conclusion is a part of the previous section "Moses' Father". Also I remember I've wrote somewhere here a long time ago to some Christian activist who tried to portray Islam as Satan's work that we should be more objective and we should share facts that we can all agree upon and not subjective conclusions and maybe they got inspired and said to themselves "Let's delete all sections named Conclusions". While the Conclusion sections is actually a summary of facts and arguments and not a subjective conclusion based on some belief or prejudice. [[User:Prekladator|Prekladator]] ([[User talk:Prekladator|talk]]) 19:50, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
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| ::Btw. if you hate the title "Conclusions", because it sounds subjective, you can replace it with "Summary". [[User:Prekladator|Prekladator]] ([[User talk:Prekladator|talk]]) 20:07, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
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| :::Hello, Can anyone find out that there are any Muslim editors on this site? [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 09:09, 12 November 2019 (UTC) <br />
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| <br />I was convinced by the site owner that this was the new site policy and so I removed the ban. I totally agree with you guys. Unfortunately, the site policy includes deleting and rewriting articles. The site is no longer aimed at criticizing Islam as it was intended. Not to mention that I don't think the editor is competent to re-write the articles and is familiar with Islam in depth. I am not angry with the owner and the editor, because I believe they do it with a pure heart, but unfortunately I do not agree with them at all on the politics, views of Islam and with the facts they claim. I hadn't even entered a year of disappointment. Unfortunately, the only place without masks and makeup will be make-up and masked. Sad, very sad because I love a site that was full of facts from the Islamic scriptures themselves, where they could not be found anywhere - so far. Excuse my English<br />
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| ::::Hello. Thanks your English is looking good. I do not believe you did something wrong to work on the articles that are deleted. I am feeling this site makes it easy for me to win debates with Muslims. [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 17:55, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
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