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Others unconvinced of a Qur’an as dispenser of scientific truths, argue some of these scientific facts were known in the Middle East centuries before the revelation of the Qur'an - for example found in passages that they argue are rephrasings of the Hebrew Bible - or were also "predicted" by non-scientists with no claims of divine inspiration. Criticisms are also presented based on the translations and context of the verses presented as scientific facts.<ref>Richard Carrier (2001). [http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/islam.html ''Cosmology and the Koran: A Response to Muslim Fundamentalists''].</ref><ref>Richard Carrier (2004). [http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?action=viewAsset&id=362 ''Predicting Modern Science: Epicurus vs. Mohammed''].</ref>
Others unconvinced of a Qur’an as dispenser of scientific truths, argue some of these scientific facts were known in the Middle East centuries before the revelation of the Qur'an - for example found in passages that they argue are rephrasings of the Hebrew Bible - or were also "predicted" by non-scientists with no claims of divine inspiration. Criticisms are also presented based on the translations and context of the verses presented as scientific facts.<ref>Richard Carrier (2001). [http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/islam.html ''Cosmology and the Koran: A Response to Muslim Fundamentalists''].</ref><ref>Richard Carrier (2004). [http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?action=viewAsset&id=362 ''Predicting Modern Science: Epicurus vs. Mohammed''].</ref>


Alleged Qur'anic predictions have also been called "vague descriptions of natural phenomena" employing "stretched or arbitrary" interpretations.<ref>Turkish physicist and philosopher Taner Edis. [http://www2.truman.edu/~edis/writings/articles/quran-science.html ''"Quran-science": Scientific miracles from the 7th century?'']</ref>  Alleged Quranic references in particular to the [[Quran and the Big Bang|expanding universe]], parallel universes, and cosmic structural hierarchies have been called "blatantly wrong."<ref name="edis2">Taner Edis. ''Ghost in the Universe.'' Quotes from page 14. Prometheus Books.</ref> Anti-Bucailleist arguments do not necessarily argue in favor of unbelief, since as one says, "[[God]] does not stand or fall depending on whether our scriptures know their physics."<ref name="edis2">Taner Edis. ''Ghost in the Universe.'' Quotes from page 14. Prometheus Books.</ref>
Alleged Qur'anic predictions have also been called "vague descriptions of natural phenomena" employing "stretched or arbitrary" interpretations.<ref>Turkish physicist and philosopher Taner Edis. [http://www2.truman.edu/~edis/writings/articles/quran-science.html ''"Quran-science": Scientific miracles from the 7th century?'']</ref>  Alleged Quranic references in particular to the expanding universe, parallel universes, and cosmic structural hierarchies have been called "blatantly wrong."<ref name="edis2">Taner Edis. ''Ghost in the Universe.'' Quotes from page 14. Prometheus Books.</ref> Anti-Bucailleist arguments do not necessarily argue in favor of unbelief, since as one says, "[[God]] does not stand or fall depending on whether our scriptures know their physics."<ref name="edis2">Taner Edis. ''Ghost in the Universe.'' Quotes from page 14. Prometheus Books.</ref>


===Methods===
===Methods===


Complaints about the methods of "Bucailleists" include the use of endorsements by Western non-Muslim scientists. One of the Bucailleists most widely circulated works is the book "[[A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam]]," which quotes several non-Muslim scientists in praise of the predictive power, divinity, etc. of the Qur'an. However, in a 2002 story<ref name="StrBedfel" /> in the American newspaper 'Wall Street Journal', several non-Muslim scientists spoke of questionable practices used by Bucailleists to cultivate scientists and coax statements from them, including lavish entertaining, untrue promises to be “completely neutral,” and hard sell interviews by Sheikh Abdul Majeed Zindani.
Complaints about the methods of "Bucailleists" include the use of endorsements by Western non-Muslim scientists. One of the Bucailleists most widely circulated works is the book "A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam," which quotes several non-Muslim scientists in praise of the predictive power, divinity, etc. of the Qur'an. However, in a 2002 story<ref name="StrBedfel" /> in the American newspaper 'Wall Street Journal', several non-Muslim scientists spoke of questionable practices used by Bucailleists to cultivate scientists and coax statements from them, including lavish entertaining, untrue promises to be “completely neutral,” and hard sell interviews by Sheikh Abdul Majeed Zindani.
    
    
{{Quote||The commission drew the scientists to its conferences with first-class plane tickets for them and their wives, rooms at the best hotels, $1,000 honoraria, and banquets with Muslim leaders — such as a palace dinner in Islamabad with Pakistani President Mohammed Zia ul-Haq shortly before he was killed in a plane crash. Ahmed also gave at least one scientist a crystal clock.<ref name="StrBedfel"/> }}
{{Quote||The commission drew the scientists to its conferences with first-class plane tickets for them and their wives, rooms at the best hotels, $1,000 honoraria, and banquets with Muslim leaders — such as a palace dinner in Islamabad with Pakistani President Mohammed Zia ul-Haq shortly before he was killed in a plane crash. Ahmed also gave at least one scientist a crystal clock.<ref name="StrBedfel"/> }}
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