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Modern Islamic Scholars claim that modern science has proved that roots of mountains go inside the earth like pegs, therefore it is a miracle of Quran to tell it correctly 1400 years ago. | Modern Islamic Scholars claim that modern science has proved that roots of mountains go inside the earth like pegs, therefore it is a miracle of Quran to tell it correctly 1400 years ago. | ||
While the critics not only deny it to be a miracle of Quran, but also claim that Quran made two scientific mistakes about mountains. | While the critics not only deny it to be a miracle of Quran, but also claim that Quran made two scientific mistakes about the mountains. | ||
=== | ===Advocate's claim: Quran rightly told 1400 years ago that mountains works as pegs/anchors in order to stabilize the otherwise shaking earth=== | ||
They quote the following verses as a proof. | They quote the following verses as a proof. | ||
{{Quote|[https://quranx.com/78.7 Quran 78:7]|وَٱلْجِبَالَ أَوْتَادًا</br> | {{Quote|[https://quranx.com/78.7 Quran 78:7]|وَٱلْجِبَالَ أَوْتَادًا</br> | ||
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And We made on the Earth stabilisers (i.e. Mountains), so that it would not tumble with you.}} | And We made on the Earth stabilisers (i.e. Mountains), so that it would not tumble with you.}} | ||
Please also see the verses [https://quranx.com/15.19 15:19], [https://quranx.com/16:15 16:15], and [https://quranx.com/31.10 31:10] | Please also see the verses [https://quranx.com/15.19 15:19], [https://quranx.com/16:15 16:15], and [https://quranx.com/31.10 31:10] | ||
==The idea of Mountains being Pegs had already existed among the Arabs before Muhammad== | ==The idea of Mountains being Pegs had already existed among the Arabs before Muhammad== | ||
The idea of mountains being pegs even existed among the Arabs before Muhammad. For example, Ka’ab was one of the ancestor of Muhammad. This Ka’ab also declared mountains to be pegs long before Muhammad. | The idea of mountains being pegs even existed among the Arabs before Muhammad. For example, Ka’ab was one of the ancestor of Muhammad. This Ka’ab also declared mountains to be pegs long before Muhammad. | ||
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{{Quote|[http://web.archive.org/web/20170921141119/http://islamport.com/d/3/tkh/1/78/1963.html History of Ya'qubi]|فأما كعب بن لؤي، فكان أعظم ولد أبيه قدرا، وأعظمهم شرفا، وكان أول من سمي يوم الجمعة بالجمعة، وكانت العرب تسميه عروبة، فجمعهم فيه، وكان يخطب عليهم، فيقول: اسمعوا، وتعلموا، وافهموا، واعلموا أن الليل ساج، والنهار ضاح، والأرض مهاد، والسماء عماد، '''''والجبال أوتاد'''''، والنجوم أعلام، </br> | {{Quote|[http://web.archive.org/web/20170921141119/http://islamport.com/d/3/tkh/1/78/1963.html History of Ya'qubi]|فأما كعب بن لؤي، فكان أعظم ولد أبيه قدرا، وأعظمهم شرفا، وكان أول من سمي يوم الجمعة بالجمعة، وكانت العرب تسميه عروبة، فجمعهم فيه، وكان يخطب عليهم، فيقول: اسمعوا، وتعلموا، وافهموا، واعلموا أن الليل ساج، والنهار ضاح، والأرض مهاد، والسماء عماد، '''''والجبال أوتاد'''''، والنجوم أعلام، </br> | ||
Ka'ab Bin Lowy was a man of great honour among his ancestors and progeny. He was the first person who gave the name of Friday to the day of Friday. Arabs used to call him 'Aroba. He gathered them and advised them to hear, learn and understand, and to know that night is deserted and silent, while day is full of sunlight, and earth is a cradle while sky is a support, '''and mountains are pegs''', and stars are signs, ...}} | Ka'ab Bin Lowy was a man of great honour among his ancestors and progeny. He was the first person who gave the name of Friday to the day of Friday. Arabs used to call him 'Aroba. He gathered them and advised them to hear, learn and understand, and to know that night is deserted and silent, while day is full of sunlight, and earth is a cradle while sky is a support, '''and mountains are pegs''', and stars are signs, ...}} | ||
Similarly, other civilizations also had the concept of mountains having roots. For example, we find this concept in bible too. | Similarly, other civilizations also had the concept of mountains having roots. For example, we find this concept in bible too. | ||
{{Quote|1=[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jonah%202%3A6&version=NIV (Bible: John 2:6)]|2='''To the roots''' of the mountains I sank down; the earth beneath barred me in forever. But you, LORD my God, brought my life up from the pit.}} | {{Quote|1=[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jonah%202%3A6&version=NIV (Bible: John 2:6)]|2='''To the roots''' of the mountains I sank down; the earth beneath barred me in forever. But you, LORD my God, brought my life up from the pit.}}Thus, the critics point out that it could not be a miracle of Quran, but it recorded only an old concept. | ||
== | ==There are 2 Scientific mistakes in Quran regarding the creation of mountains== | ||
Moreover, the critics claim that the writer of Quran made two scientific mistakes regarding the creation of mountains. | |||
==='''First Mistake''': Allah 'placed جعل' the Mountains 'from above '''من فوقها'''<nowiki/>' into the earth according to the Quran=== | ==='''First Mistake''': Allah 'placed جعل' the Mountains 'from above '''من فوقها'''<nowiki/>' into the earth according to the Quran=== | ||
According to the modern science, mountains are formed when two plates | According to the modern science, mountains are formed when two plates tectonic collide with each other, and thus the mountains rise '''from within''' the earth. | ||
But the Quranic verse 41:10 claimed that Allah 'placed' the mountains 'from above' into the earth. | |||
وَ'''جَعَلَ''' فِيهَا رَوَٰسِىَ '''مِن فَوْقِهَا''' | وَ'''جَعَلَ''' فِيهَا رَوَٰسِىَ '''مِن فَوْقِهَا''' | ||
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He '''placed''' therein (i.e. the earth) firm mountains '''from above it.''' ([https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/41/10/default.htm Mohsin Khan & Muhammad al-Hilali]) | He '''placed''' therein (i.e. the earth) firm mountains '''from above it.''' ([https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/41/10/default.htm Mohsin Khan & Muhammad al-Hilali]) | ||
Similarly, verse 16:15 is also | Similarly, verse 16:15 is also telling the same thing that Allah CASTE the mountains into the earth. | ||
{{Quote|[https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/16/15/default.htm Quran 16:15]|وألقى في الأرض رواسي أن تميد بكم </br> | {{Quote|[https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/16/15/default.htm Quran 16:15]|وألقى في الأرض رواسي أن تميد بكم </br> | ||
(Sahih International) And He has '''cast''' into the earth firmly set mountains, lest it shift with you,}} | (Sahih International) And He has '''cast''' into the earth firmly set mountains, lest it shift with you,}} | ||
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For example, there existed no Mount Everest 250 million years ago. But then two plates tectonics collided with each other, and a small Mount Everest came into being due to that. Then it kept on gaining height with each collision of the plates tectonics. Today it is the highest mountain. It will keep on gaining even more height, but then a time will come, when it will start eroding and will disappear completely. | For example, there existed no Mount Everest 250 million years ago. But then two plates tectonics collided with each other, and a small Mount Everest came into being due to that. Then it kept on gaining height with each collision of the plates tectonics. Today it is the highest mountain. It will keep on gaining even more height, but then a time will come, when it will start eroding and will disappear completely. | ||
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Moreover, there are other type of mountains too, which are formed when Lava comes out from inside the earth. When this lava cools down, it forms high and big mountains, which are known as [http://www.universetoday.com/29833/how-mountains-are-formed/ Volcanic Mountains]. <br /> | |||
==='''Second Mistake''': Allah had already made the mountains on the day of Sunday at time of the creation of the universe=== | ==='''Second Mistake''': Allah had already made the mountains on the day of Sunday at time of the creation of the universe=== | ||
Quran claims that Allah had already created the mountains on the 2nd day of creation. | Quran claims that Allah had already created the mountains on the 2nd day of creation. | ||
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Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created the clay on Saturday and He created the mountains on Sunday and He created the trees on Monday and He created the things entailing labour on Tuesday and created light on Wednesday and lie caused the animals to spread on Thursday and created Adam (peace be upon him) after 'Asr on Friday; the last creation at the last hour of the hours of Friday, i.e. between afternoon and night.}} | Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created the clay on Saturday and He created the mountains on Sunday and He created the trees on Monday and He created the things entailing labour on Tuesday and created light on Wednesday and lie caused the animals to spread on Thursday and created Adam (peace be upon him) after 'Asr on Friday; the last creation at the last hour of the hours of Friday, i.e. between afternoon and night.}} | ||
But according to the modern science<ref>[https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a34910714/why-mount-everest-and-swiss-alps-are-getting-taller/ Popular Mechanics]</ref><ref>[https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/mountains#:~:text=How%20Are%20Mountains%20Formed%3F,in%20a%20head-on%20collision. National Geographic]</ref> | But according to the modern science<ref>[https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a34910714/why-mount-everest-and-swiss-alps-are-getting-taller/ Popular Mechanics]</ref><ref>[https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/mountains#:~:text=How%20Are%20Mountains%20Formed%3F,in%20a%20head-on%20collision. National Geographic]</ref>: | ||
*Mountains had not already been created on the 2nd day of creation of the heavens (universe) and the earth. | *Mountains had not already been created on the 2nd day of creation of the heavens (universe) and the earth. | ||