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→‎Gates and water of the universe: Added a short paragraph just clarifying that the heavens here are different term than the afterlife - which may be confusing for readers and cause them to miss the point of other sections. I've also added another verse mentioning the gates of the skies.
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(Added a verse stating clouds are specifically between the heaven and universe to back up previous verses interpretation that there is n actual gap of space between the firmament heaven and Earth in the Quran. Also something happened with my last update sorry! The page seems to have gone strange and I can't edit it. The 'See Also' section has two equals signs, and the pervious text in this section can't be clicked on or edited (everywhere else on the page is fine for me though). Thank you.)
(→‎Gates and water of the universe: Added a short paragraph just clarifying that the heavens here are different term than the afterlife - which may be confusing for readers and cause them to miss the point of other sections. I've also added another verse mentioning the gates of the skies.)
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===Seven Universes===
===Seven Universes===
Another common apologetic claim is that these seven heavens are actually seven universes which we are yet to discover, and that we know only our one universe so far (due to the Quran stating the nearest/lowest heaven is adorned with stars which cover the known visible universe).
The word that in English is translated for heaven(s) is samā/سَماء, which can also be translated as sky (which is essentially it's modern meaning in Arabic).<ref>[https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english-arabic/sky ''Sky.''] Translation English to Arabic. Cambridge dictionary.</ref> This is separate to 'jannah/جَنَّة', which means the paradise supposedly in the afterlife for righteous Muslims - which readers may mistake as being the same given the double meaning in English. However, unlike paradise (jannah), the heaven(s)/skies (samā) are part of the cosmos, with the moon being described as in them ({{Quran|71|15-16}}), clouds ({{Quran|2|164}}), along with the stars ({{Quran|41|12}}).
 
Another common apologetic claim is that these seven heavens are actually seven universes which we are yet to discover, and that we know only our one universe so far.
 
This is due to the Quran stating the nearest/lowest heaven is adorned with stars which cover the known visible universe (such as {{Quran|41|12}}), rather than any philological analysis and ignoring all historical context of the word. However there are many problems with this as we will see below, with all verses using a form of the word samā/سَماء.


==== Gates and water of the universe ====
==== Gates and water of the universe ====
The following verse contradicts such a claim since it says rain was made to fall from heaven. Certainly, rain does not come from outer space, let alone from gates at the edge of the universe which would be ~46.5 billion light years away.<ref>[https://www.mos.org/mos-at-home/pulsar/how-far-away-is-the-edge-of-the-universe#:~:text=We're%20looking%20back%20in,again%2C%20is%20what%20cosmologists%20do. ''How Far Away is the Edge of the Universe?''] Museum of Science Podcast. Janine Myszka. </ref> The word used for heaven here is ''sama'', the same as that for the seven heavens.
The following verse contradicts such a claim since it says rain was made to fall from heaven. Certainly, rain does not come from outer space, let alone from gates at the edge of the universe which would be ~46.5 billion light years away.<ref>[https://www.mos.org/mos-at-home/pulsar/how-far-away-is-the-edge-of-the-universe#:~:text=We're%20looking%20back%20in,again%2C%20is%20what%20cosmologists%20do. ''How Far Away is the Edge of the Universe?''] Museum of Science Podcast. Janine Myszka. </ref> The word used for heaven here is ''samā'', the same as that for the seven heavens.


{{Quote|{{cite web|url=http://islamawakened.com/quran/54/11/default.htm |title=Qur'an 54:11 |publisher= |author= |date= |archiveurl= |deadurl=no}}|So We opened the gates of heaven, with water pouring forth. }}
{{Quote|{{Quran|54|11}}|So We opened the gates of heaven, with water pouring forth. }}The gates of the heavens are mentioned elsewhere such as the below, saying even God opened a gate so the disbelievers could climb up it, they would still not believe.
{{Quote|{{Quran|15|14-15}}|And if We open for them a gate in the heavens, to ascend it through the day – Even then they would say, “Our sights have been hypnotised – in fact, a magic spell has been cast upon us.”}}


==== Earth created before the universe ====
==== Earth created before the universe ====
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