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== Historical Jesus Practice ==
== Historical Jesus Practice ==
The Qur'an contains verses relating to [[Isa al-Masih (Jesus Christ)|Jesus (named Isa)]] , whom it affirms was a prophet of Allah and 'the messiah', though it is unclear what this means exactly, with many different Islam interpretations. [1] (see Isa page for a theological discussion).
Like many biblical characters, the Qur'an contains verses relating to the Christian [[Isa al-Masih (Jesus Christ)|Jesus (named Isa)]], whom it affirms was really a prophet of Allah and 'the messiah'; <s>though it is unclear what this means exactly, with many different Islam interpretations. [1]</s> (see Isa page for a theological discussion). Unlike in the bible, the Qur'an states he is just a human and not the son of God <nowiki>{{Quran|4|171}}</nowiki> (e.g. <nowiki>{{Quran|17|111}}</nowiki> <nowiki>{{Quran|2|116}}</nowiki>),


He is said to have preached 'the gospel/Injeel', given by God, similarly to how Moses was given the Torah (<nowiki>{{Quran|5|46}}</nowiki> and Muhammad the Qur'an, which the dominant Islamic position is that the New Testament (which contains 4 'gospels') is a corrupted/changed document that does not match his original teachings.[2] Therefore Muslims disregard the Christian Jesus as essentially an altered version of the real one, who allegedly was not actually crucified <nowiki>{{Quran|4|157}}</nowiki>[14]  nor ever claimed to be the son of God (e.g. <nowiki>{{Quran|17|111}}</nowiki> <nowiki>{{Quran|2|116}}</nowiki>), which ~600 years later was clarified
He is said to have preached 'the gospel/Injeel', similarly to how Moses was given the Torah (<nowiki>{{Quran|5|46}}</nowiki> and Muhammad the Qur'an. This has lead to the dominant Islamic position is that the New Testament we have (which contains 4 'gospels') is a corrupted/changed document that does not match his original teachings.[2] Therefore Muslims disregard the Christian Jesus as essentially an altered version of the real one, who allegedly was not actually crucified <nowiki>{{Quran|4|157}}</nowiki>[14] <s>nor ever claimed to be the son of God (e.g. <nowiki>{{Quran|17|111}}</nowiki> <nowiki>{{Quran|2|116}}</nowiki>), which ~600 years later was clarified</s>


However while Muslims may reject the biblical Jesus on theological/faith-based grounds alone, there has been much secular scholarship for more than 200 years seeking to reconstruct the real historical Jesus (independently from Islamic studies) from historical-critical methods rather than Christian theological/faith-based one's, which does not lead to an image similar to the Qur'anic one in many key ways.
However while Muslims may reject the biblical Jesus on theological/faith-based grounds alone, there has been much secular scholarship for more than 200 years seeking to reconstruct the real historical Jesus (independently from Islamic studies) from historical-critical methods rather than Christian theological/faith-based one's, whose results conflict with the Qur'anic one in key ways.


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The Qur'an includes references to Jesus (referred to as Isa in Islam), acknowledging him as a prophet of Allah and the Messiah, but with unclear implications that have led to various interpretations in Islam. Unlike the Christian Bible, the Qur'an portrays Jesus as a human being, not the son of God.
It states that Jesus preached the gospel (Injeel) but <s>suggests that the New Testament has been altered and does not reflect Jesus's original teachings.</s>
According to the Qur'an, Jesus was not crucified, nor did he ever claim to be the son of God. While Muslims reject the Christian view of Jesus based on theological grounds, secular scholarship has also sought to reconstruct the historical Jesus through critical methods, which differ from the Qur'anic portrayal.
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'''Imminent Apocalyptic Preacher'''
'''Imminent Apocalyptic Preacher'''
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Ehrman, Bart D.. Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium (p. 130-131). Oxford University Press. Kindle Edition.
Ehrman, Bart D.. Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium (p. 130-131). Oxford University Press. Kindle Edition.


Let me stress that Luke continues to think that the end of the age is going to come in his own lifetime. But he does not seem to think that it was supposed to come in the lifetime of Jesus’ companions. Why not? Evidently because he was writing after they had died, and he knew that in fact the end had
Let me stress that Luke continues to think that the end of the age is going to come in his own lifetime. But he does not seem to think that it was supposed to come in the lifetime of Jesus’ companions. Why not? Evidently because he was writing after they had died, and he knew that in fact the end had not come. To deal with the “delay of the end,” he made the appropriate changes in Jesus’ predictions. This is evident as well near the end of the Gospel. At Jesus’ trial before the Sanhedrin in Mark’s Gospel, Jesus boldly states to the high priest, “You will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of power and coming with the clouds of heaven” (Mark 14:62). That is, the end would come and the high priest would see it. Luke, writing many years later, after the high priest was long dead and buried, changes the saying: “from now on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God” (Luke 22:69). No longer does Jesus predict that the high priest himself will be alive when the end comes.


not come. To deal with the “delay of the end,” he made the appropriate changes in Jesus’ predictions. This is evident as well near the end of the Gospel. At Jesus’ trial before the Sanhedrin in Mark’s Gospel, Jesus boldly states to the high priest, “You will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of power and coming with the clouds of heaven” (Mark 14:62). That is, the end would come and the high priest would see it. Luke, writing many years later, after the high priest was long dead and buried, changes the saying: “from now on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God” (Luke 22:69). No longer does Jesus predict that the high priest himself will be alive when the end comes.




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