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→‎Allah knows children will become disbelievers: Found a hadith putting this rather poor moral lesson into action in war on only allowing children to be killed if they are also know or believed to become unbelievers.
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(→‎Allah knows children will become disbelievers: Found a hadith putting this rather poor moral lesson into action in war on only allowing children to be killed if they are also know or believed to become unbelievers.)
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18:79 As for the ship, it belonged to poor people working at sea. So I intended to cause defect in it as there was after them a king who seized every [good] ship by force.
18:79 As for the ship, it belonged to poor people working at sea. So I intended to cause defect in it as there was after them a king who seized every [good] ship by force.
<b> 18:80 And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief.  
<b> 18:80 And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief.  
18:81 So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy. </b>}}
18:81 So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy. </b>}}Interestingly this story is quoted in a hadith relating to war saying you should only kill children who you can know who, or distinguish who will become non-believers.
{{Quote|{{Muslim|19|4457}}|This tradition has been narrated by the game authority (Yazid b. Hurmus) through a different chain of transmitters with the following difference in the elucidation of one of the points raised by Najda in his letter to Ibn Abas:
 
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to he a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside.}}


=== Abu Lahab and his wife were destined for hell ===
=== Abu Lahab and his wife were destined for hell ===
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