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::::6. Okay. If you could add the references, that would be great.
::::6. Okay. If you could add the references, that would be great.
::::7-8. Again, this sounds great. We're not going anywhere so take your time :) [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 04:48, 5 April 2013 (PDT)
::::7-8. Again, this sounds great. We're not going anywhere so take your time :) [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 04:48, 5 April 2013 (PDT)
== List of Wives and Concubines of Muhammad ==
Hi. Thanks for the article you submitted on the talk page. The only problems I see is that people like Virgin Mary need some sort of quick explanation (i.e. "Engagement arranged in heaven", or something like that) otherwise it will leave readers bewildered. Also, it would be nice to note the reason why some were divorced (i.e. "divorced before consummation because she was "too old"", or "divorced before consummation because she suffering from leprosy"). Apart from that, the changes are positive. Thanks a lot for your work here.
Regardless, I've always felt that page was a little bland and empty. Would you like to expand the list a little by making it more like the [[List of Killings Ordered or Supported by Muhammad]]? This way you could include a nice little summary about each person. I will create a template page so you can see what I mean and, if you agree, to fill with the information you have. Also the name is an issue. I don't think "List of Wives and Concubines of Muhammad" quite covers the page's scope. What do you think of "List of Women in Muhammad's Life"? [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 13:38, 8 April 2013 (PDT)
:I've made that page now: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Women_in_Muhammads_Life . Even as an empty shell, I can see that page has the potential to be one of our standout articles. I'll fill what I can to make it easier and quicker for you. [[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 16:25, 8 April 2013 (PDT)
::This new page looks great (or will when its complete). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 16:42, 8 April 2013 (PDT)
:::"List of Women in Muhammad's Life" will do until one of us thinks of something better. However, it's somewhat misleading, as we're not including his daughters, aunts or domestic staff.
:::Yes, the set-up looks marvellous. I have already made tables that look similar to that one for my personal use, so I should be able to write it up as soon as I've worked out how to read the software.
:::I still want to make individual pages for most of these women. Quite a bit is known about characters like Asma bint Numan and Fatima bint Al-Dahhak (not as much as about Khadija or Aisha, of course, but at least stub-length), and it seems a pity to limit them to a one-liner in a table.
:::There is at least one extra name (a woman who refused M's proposal on the grounds she was already married) that I'm 99% sure will turn out to be valid, but at present I've mislaid the primary source. I suppose I can just keep adding information of that type as it surfaces? We have already covered ourselves for incompleteness by admitting that we don't know the full number of women. [[User:1234567|1234567]] ([[User talk:1234567|talk]]) 17:00, 8 April 2013 (PDT)
::::1. Yes, agreed. I think i made the scope a little wider than it should be. :) We'll try to think of an alternative title.
::::2. Okay. Yes. If the writing style is scholarly/historian-type, rather than narrative, it would be greatly appreciated.
::::3. Yes, you can add them as you get hold of the sources. The article will still be "complete" in the wiki sense of the word. I will stop adding those refs and leave you to it. Otherwise we'll have an edit conflict and one of us will lose everything we typed.[[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 17:26, 8 April 2013 (PDT)
:::::Just a note that you can put more than a sentence in each (2,3, or 4 maybe). Basically pack as much pertinent info in a tiny space as you can.[[User:Sahabah|--Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 17:36, 8 April 2013 (PDT)