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 But how do you know that 'whom the right hands possess' is definitely referring to 'Sex Slaves'?
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 : The narrations I have provided are of course, sahih and mutawatir. If you would like more information just ask here and I will be glad to provide it. Peace!! [[User:Sanitarium|Sanitarium]] 18:05, 18 July 2010 (PDT)
 ::Thats great, maybe that could be added to the page about what right hand means, I didnt look carefully though. --[[User:Whale|Whale]] 21:19, 18 July 2010 (PDT)
+== What 'forbidden' means ==
+In 4:24 the article says 'forbidden' refers to intercourse, but 4:23, the verse immediately preceding it, says "Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:" Surely 4:24 is just a continuation of the prohibitions on marriage? Then it would be saying you can marry captives even if they are already married. --[[Special:Contributions/80.229.224.90|80.229.224.90]] 08:58, 15 August 2015 (PDT)
+:You cant only look at the verse. The hadiths/Tafsirs are already on the page and there's no mention of marriage there. Please read the rest of the page and you can easily see that its sex with captives that is the issue and marriage is not a requirement.
+:So in other terms, this is what is recorded in the hadiths and Tafsirs: Women taken as captives and their captives then had sex with them and thats the main point of the article. Marriage is not mentioned anywhere and was not done.
+:The article is titled Rape in Islam and most people will agree that taking women captive and having sex with them is rape. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 09:48, 15 August 2015 (PDT)
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 ::Anon IP, you wrote: ''"Islam Q&A site has no authority to issue any fatwa"'' - What Islamic authority do YOU have to make such a statement? Why dont you go say that to the Islamic scholars at Islam QA? You have no status and Islamic authority to challenge the Islamic scholars on that site. Go talk to them and explain how you're more qualified than them in the matters of Islam. As to ''"while it may contain quotes of valid legal opinion"'' - and your own opinion is completely invalid. You have to be a known Islamic scholar before rendering any such opinion on another Islamic scholar. Good luck in defending in Islam. --[[User:Whale|Whale]] 15:59, 17 January 2012 (PST)
+==(To do) Responses to Apologetics: Hirabah==
+Task for this article: Add a "Responses to Apologetics' section and talk about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirabah Hirabah] and how this term is not found in the Quran and how it contradicts the Quran (right-hand possesses) and the issue of Muhammad forcefully marrying Safiyah and Juwairiyah. Also point out Hirabah ('unlawful warfare') doesnt have anything to do with 'rape'. A few Islamic scholars cannot contradict Quran and hadiths. Scriptural basis "who wage war against Allah" is vague and can apply to anything and again, if some people think it refers to Rape, it directly contradicts Quran's own 'right hand' issue which qualifies more for a scrptural basis for Rape.
+Also, attempt to edit Wikipedia for Hirabah and remove all [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research Original research] from the article.
+If that is not possible, then add the 'right hand' verse to the page in the same way the other verse has been added.
+==Paraphrasing or copying==
+I was wondering if Paraphrasing or copying from [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Saudi_Arabia here] along with the sources is allowed. Can someone guide me?-[[User:Raman|Raman]] ([[User talk:Raman|talk]]) 16:25, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
+:Hey Raman, generally speaking, while using Wikipedia as a guide on how to approach a topic is an acceptable way to help you in editing an article, copying text over is not allowed (unless, in some rare case, you actually wish to quote and reference a wikipedia article - though this is generally not advised). General plagiarism rules apply. As for this particular topic and article, you could add a section to the article on the "Modern Implementation" of the law, and provide the details on how it is implemented in Saudi Arabia and maybe give an example case. Since this article is not about specific rape cases and since the wiki doesn't concern itself with "news" related topic in general, do not outright compile specific instances of rape as has been done on the wikipedia article (review the [[WikiIslam:Scope and Article Relevance]] page for further clarification of what does and doesn't fit on the wiki). I hope that helps, let me know if you need any further help. --[[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 21:21, 26 November 2020 (UTC)