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==Perspective of the Supporters of Blasphemy law==
==Perspective of the Supporters of Blasphemy law==
In many Islamic countries, insulting Islam or prophet Muhammad is already a crime with punishments, including killing<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#Muslim-majority_countries Punishment of insulting Islam/Muhammad in the Islamic Countries]</ref>. There is a campaign now to make it also a criminal offence in the western secular world too.   
In many Islamic countries, insulting Islam or prophet Muhammad is already a crime with punishments, including killing<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#Muslim-majority_countries Punishment of insulting Islam/Muhammad in the Islamic Countries]</ref>. There is a campaign now to make it also a criminal offence in the western secular world too. Their arguments are as under:    


===(1) Insulting Muhammad causes unbearable emotional harm to those who love him===
===(1) Insulting Muhammad causes unbearable emotional harm to those who love him===
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==Perspective of the Critics of Blasphemy law==
==Perspective of the Critics of Blasphemy law==
There is a campaign for repealing the blasphemy laws<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#Campaigns_for_repeal Campaign for repealing the Blasphemy Laws]</ref>, under which many Western countries have already abolished the blasphemy laws completely in the recent times.
There is a campaign for repealing the blasphemy laws<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#Campaigns_for_repeal Campaign for repealing the Blasphemy Laws]</ref>, under which many Western countries have already abolished the blasphemy laws completely in the recent times. According to the critics of blasphemy law:{{Quote|[https://web.archive.org/web/20211010160706/https://atheism-vs-islam.com/index.php/miscellaneous-articles/5-why-western-laws-about-blasphemy-are-fully-justified-and-according-to-the-human-nature atheism-vs-islam.com]|'''(1) Punishment of an "Oral" Insult could not be any "Physical" Punishment:''' If 1.5 billion Muslims are hurt from the oral insult of prophet, then the Secular Western Laws also allow these 1.5 billion Muslims to orally insult that person and hurt his feelings too in the reply. And if oral insult has any influence, then that person would surely die due the curses and insults of these 1.5 Billion Muslims. If someone is cursing you, then the western laws allow you too to curse him back orally, but they don't allow you become physical. </br>
 
'''(2) Where there is “Preaching”, there is also “Criticism”:''' Both preaching and criticism go hand in hand in the western secular law. Everyone is allowed to preach his religion/ideology, but then other is also fully allowed to differ and criticise. Western Secular laws provide with full freedom to preach your religion/ideology, which comes under the right of [https://ec.europa.eu/info/aid-development-cooperation-fundamental-rights/your-rights-eu/know-your-rights/freedoms/freedom-thought-conscience-and-religion_en Freedom of Religion]. At the same time, they also provide full freedom to criticise any religion/ideology under the right of [https://ec.europa.eu/info/aid-development-cooperation-fundamental-rights/your-rights-eu/know-your-rights/freedoms/freedom-expression-and-information_en Freedom of Expression]</br>
===(1) Punishment of an "Oral" Insult could not be any "Physical" Punishment===
'''(3) Where there is “Praise”, there is also “Insult”:''' Muslims consider Muhammad to be the best of mankind. Thus they could highly "praise" Muhammad. While the Non-Muslims believe Muhammad to be a wrong-doer (who made false drama of prophethood and thus millions of people died due to it). And they are hurt and feel emotional harmed when such a wrong-doer (in their opinion) is "praised". Nevertheless, the western secular system fully allows Muslims to praise Muhammad as much as they want, while the Non-Muslims could not stop them from praising Muhammad, '''and they have to bear this praise in name of Freedom of Expression''' and move on. Similarly, even if Muslims claim they are hurt when someone insults Muhammad, still they could not stop non-Muslims from orally insulting Muhammad. '''They have to bear this insult and move on'''.
Critics of blasphemy laws consider the modern Secular laws of the western countries to be in accordance with the Justice, where indeed the punishment of oral insult is present, but this punishment is not "physical", but also "oral". 
'''(4) Human Nature:''' It is normal according to the human nature that people may become angry during the discussions & debates due to the difference of opinions and use harsh words in anger for the opponent. And the western law is thus based upon this exact human nature. Even the writer of Quran showed this exact human nature. When the opponent's didn't accept the prophethood of Muhammad, then the writer of Quran became angry and then he started cursing them several times in Quran, and insulting them by equating them to the Donkey, Dogs and the worst of animals and the worst of creatures, and for being filthy, and calling them names (like Abu Jahl) and “bastard” (Arabic: زنیم) and fools and deaf and blind and Kafir.}}
{{Quote|[https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/rolct3/reasons_why_criticizing_and_even_hating_and_even/ Reddit/ExMuslim]|If 1.5 billion Muslims are hurt from the oral insult of prophet, then the Secular Western Laws also allow these 1.5 billion Muslims to orally insult that person and hurt his feelings too in the reply. And if oral insult has any influence, then that person would surely die due the curses and insults of these 1.5 Billion Muslims.</br>
If someone is cursing you, then the western laws allow you too to curse him back orally, but they don't allow you become physical. }}
===(2) Where there is “Preaching”, there is also “Criticism”===
 
Both preaching and criticism go hand in hand in the western secular law. Everyone is allowed to preach his religion/ideology, but then other is also fully allowed to differ and criticise. Western Secular laws provide with full freedom to preach your religion/ideology, which comes under the right of [https://ec.europa.eu/info/aid-development-cooperation-fundamental-rights/your-rights-eu/know-your-rights/freedoms/freedom-thought-conscience-and-religion_en Freedom of Religion]. At the same time, they also provide full freedom to criticise any religion/ideology under the right of [https://ec.europa.eu/info/aid-development-cooperation-fundamental-rights/your-rights-eu/know-your-rights/freedoms/freedom-expression-and-information_en Freedom of Expression].
 
===(3) Where there is “Praise”, there is also “Insult”===
Critics of the blasphemy laws explains it as under:
{{Quote|[https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/rolct3/reasons_why_criticizing_and_even_hating_and_even/ Reddit/ExMuslim]|Muslims consider Muhammad to be the best of mankind. Thus they could highly "praise" Muhammad.
 
While there are Non-Muslims who believe Muhammad to be an evil person, and millions of people were killed due to his false drama of prophethood. And they are hurt and feel emotional harmed when such an evil person (in their opinion) is "praised".
 
Nevertheless, the western secular system fully allows Muslims to praise Muhammad as much as they want, while the Non-Muslims could not stop them from praising Muhammad, and they have to bear this praise in name of Freedom of Expression and move on.
 
Similarly, even if Muslims claim they are hurt when someone insults Muhammad, still they could not stop non-Muslims from orally insulting Muhammad. They have to bear this insult and move on.}}
 
===(4) Western Secular Laws are in accordance with the Human Nature:===
 Critics of the blasphemy laws explain it as under:
{{Quote|[https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/rolct3/reasons_why_criticizing_and_even_hating_and_even/ Reddit/ExMuslim]|It is normal for human nature that people may become angry during the debates due to the difference of opinions and use harsh words in anger for the opponent. And the western law is thus based upon this exact human nature. It understands the humans and their shortcomings. </br>
 
Even the writer of Quran and Muhammad showed this exact human nature. When the opponent's didn't accept the prophethood of Muhammad, then the writer of Quran and Muhammad became angry and then they started cursing them several times in Quran and Hadith, and insulting them by equating them to the Donkey, Dogs and the worst of animals and the worst of creatures, and for being filthy, and calling them names (like Abu Jahl) and “bastard” (Arabic: زنیم) and fools and deaf and blind and Kafir.}}
 
== Quranic Verses which are insulting the opponents==
== Quranic Verses which are insulting the opponents==
{{Quote|{{Quran-range|68|10|13}}|Heed not the type of despicable men,- ready with oaths, A slanderer, going about with calumnies, (Habitually) hindering (all) good, transgressing beyond bounds, deep in sin, Violent (and cruel),- with all that,''' base-born (bastard),-'''}}{{Quote|{{Quran|111|1}}|May the hands of Abu Lahab perish! May he too perish!}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|89}}|Allah's '''curse''' is on (all) the unbelievers.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|161}}|Surely (all) those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the '''curse of Allah and the angels and men all''';}}{{Quote|{{Quran|7|179}}|Already have We urged unto hell many of the jinn and humankind, having hearts wherewith they understand not, and having eyes wherewith they see not, and having ears wherewith they hear not. '''These are as the cattle - nay, but they are worse than cattle'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|62|5}}|The likeness of those who were charged with the Taurat, then they did not observe it, '''is as the likeness of the ass (donkey)''' bearing books, evil is the likeness of the people who reject the communications of Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|171}}|And the parable of those who disbelieve is as the parable of one who calls out to that which hears no more than a call and a cry; '''deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|Say, "Should I tell you who will receive the worst punishment from God? Those whom God has condemned, afflicted with His anger, '''made apes out of them, swine and worshippers of Satan''', will have the worst dwelling and will wander far away from the right path."}}{{Quote|{{Quran|7|176}}|And if We had pleased, We would certainly have exalted him thereby; but he clung to the earth and followed his low desire, so his parable is as the '''parable of the dog; if you attack him he lolls out his tongue; and if you leave him alone he lolls out his tongue'''; this is the parable of the people who reject Our communications;}}{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}|Surely Allah will make those who believe and do good enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; and those who disbelieve enjoy themselves and eat as the '''beasts''' eat, and the fire is their abode.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|74|51}}|What is then the matter with them (Kuffar), that they turn away from the admonition. '''As they were frightened donkeys'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|7|166}}|Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: '''Be apes, despised and hated'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|98|6}}|The disbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans will dwell forever in hell; '''they are the worst of all creatures'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|99}}|We have sent down to you clear revelations: no one can deny them except the '''evil transgressors'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|9|28}}|O Believers, the pagans are '''filthy and unclean'''. Do not let them come near to the Sacred Mosque after this year.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|Surely the '''vilest of animals''' in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|142}}|'''The fools (pagans, hypocrites, and Jews)''' among the people will say, "What has turned them (Muslims) from their Qiblah [prayer direction (towards Jerusalem)] to which they were used to face in prayer." Say, (O Muhammad SAW) "To Allah belong both, east and the west. He guides whom He wills to a Straight Way."}}<blockquote>
Islam critics point out that the following Quranic Verses are insulting the opponents. {{Quote|{{Quran-range|68|10|13}}|Heed not the type of despicable men,- ready with oaths, A slanderer, going about with calumnies, (Habitually) hindering (all) good, transgressing beyond bounds, deep in sin, Violent (and cruel),- with all that,''' base-born (bastard),-'''}}{{Quote|{{Quran|111|1}}|May the hands of Abu Lahab perish! May he too perish!}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|89}}|Allah's '''curse''' is on (all) the unbelievers.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|161}}|Surely (all) those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the '''curse of Allah and the angels and men all''';}}{{Quote|{{Quran|7|179}}|Already have We urged unto hell many of the jinn and humankind, having hearts wherewith they understand not, and having eyes wherewith they see not, and having ears wherewith they hear not. '''These are as the cattle - nay, but they are worse than cattle'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|62|5}}|The likeness of those who were charged with the Taurat, then they did not observe it, '''is as the likeness of the ass (donkey)''' bearing books, evil is the likeness of the people who reject the communications of Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|171}}|And the parable of those who disbelieve is as the parable of one who calls out to that which hears no more than a call and a cry; '''deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|5|60}}|Say, "Should I tell you who will receive the worst punishment from God? Those whom God has condemned, afflicted with His anger, '''made apes out of them, swine and worshippers of Satan''', will have the worst dwelling and will wander far away from the right path."}}{{Quote|{{Quran|7|176}}|And if We had pleased, We would certainly have exalted him thereby; but he clung to the earth and followed his low desire, so his parable is as the '''parable of the dog; if you attack him he lolls out his tongue; and if you leave him alone he lolls out his tongue'''; this is the parable of the people who reject Our communications;}}{{Quote|{{Quran|47|12}}|Surely Allah will make those who believe and do good enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; and those who disbelieve enjoy themselves and eat as the '''beasts''' eat, and the fire is their abode.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|74|51}}|What is then the matter with them (Kuffar), that they turn away from the admonition. '''As they were frightened donkeys'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|7|166}}|Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: '''Be apes, despised and hated'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|98|6}}|The disbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans will dwell forever in hell; '''they are the worst of all creatures'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|99}}|We have sent down to you clear revelations: no one can deny them except the '''evil transgressors'''.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|9|28}}|O Believers, the pagans are '''filthy and unclean'''. Do not let them come near to the Sacred Mosque after this year.}}{{Quote|{{Quran|8|55}}|Surely the '''vilest of animals''' in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve}}{{Quote|{{Quran|2|142}}|'''The fools (pagans, hypocrites, and Jews)''' among the people will say, "What has turned them (Muslims) from their Qiblah [prayer direction (towards Jerusalem)] to which they were used to face in prayer." Say, (O Muhammad SAW) "To Allah belong both, east and the west. He guides whom He wills to a Straight Way."}}
 
</blockquote>And then we have the tradition from Sahih Bukhari (link) when Abu Bakr abused the ambassador of Quraysh by saying: “Go and such the stinky clitoris of your goddess Laat”, then Prophet Muhammad supported Abu Bakr in saying it by keeping quiet (known as “Hadith-e-Taqriri” in Islamic Sharia).
 
Note:
 
The words of Abu Bakr were so dirty that the English Translator of Sahih Bukhari “distorted (تحریف)” the  translation and hid the actual abusive words of  Abu Bakr:  This is pure “dishonesty” to do such distortion.
 
Arabic words of Abu Bakr are: فَقَالَ لَهُ أَبُو بَكْرٍ امْصُصْ بَظْرَ اللاَّتِ , which means (Abu Bakr said: “Go and suck the stinky clitoris of goddess Laat”)


== Insult of the opponents in Hadith ==
Islam critics point the following incident:
{{Quote|[https://web.archive.org/web/20211010160706/https://atheism-vs-islam.com/index.php/miscellaneous-articles/5-why-western-laws-about-blasphemy-are-fully-justified-and-according-to-the-human-nature atheism-vs-islam.com]|There is a tradition in [http://sunnah.com/bukhari/54/19 Sahih al-Bukhari 2731, 2732] when Abu Bakr abused the ambassador of Quraysh by saying: “Go and suck the clitoris of your goddess Laat”, then Prophet Muhammad didn't stop Abu Bakr from this blasphemy, but supported him by keeping quiet (known as [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Hazriah-Hasan/publication/336374711_PROPHETIC_SUNNAH/links/5d9ef1e0a6fdcc04fac678ad/PROPHETIC-SUNNAH.pdf Taqriri Hadith]. [Note: The Muslim english translator of Sahih Bukhari didn't translated the exact words of Abu Bakr, which constitutes to "Distortion"]. Arabic words of Abu Bakr are: فَقَالَ لَهُ أَبُو بَكْرٍ امْصُصْ بَظْرَ اللاَّتِ , which mean (Abu Bakr said: “Go and suck the clitoris of goddess Laat”)}}




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