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:We could perhaps amalgamate this article with the "list of wives" article (on which I've done some work). Make the list the hub article, then link it to separate pages on each wife, plus a page for "Broken Engagements," etc. | :We could perhaps amalgamate this article with the "list of wives" article (on which I've done some work). Make the list the hub article, then link it to separate pages on each wife, plus a page for "Broken Engagements," etc. | ||
:You can use the pseudonym '''Petra MacDonald''' for the author. This is the English translation of '''Asma bint Marwan''' (with the elements reversed).[[User:1234567|1234567]] ([[User talk:1234567|talk]]) 15:25, 11 October 2012 (PDT) | :You can use the pseudonym '''Petra MacDonald''' for the author. This is the English translation of '''Asma bint Marwan''' (with the elements reversed).[[User:1234567|1234567]] ([[User talk:1234567|talk]]) 15:25, 11 October 2012 (PDT) | ||
== Questions about the Wives articles == | |||
Hi 1234567, its me Whale (changed my username). I'm now Axius. Thanks again for the work you've done on the Women articles. I'm starting to look at them and trying to understand the approach you took and check if there are any issues with following our policies and guidelines. My first questions are about references. | |||
Could you tell me a little about your sources for example: | |||
# What were the main/most important sources you used? | |||
# How did you have access to them? For example physical books, ebooks, electronic PDF or a website or all of them? Please tell me the type of format for the main sources in #1. | |||
I'm asking this because I'd really like to have access to these sources if possible. I have Gulliume/Ishaq (book) and Tabari (40 volumes). | |||
I'm just doing some random checks and I may do more later. | |||
When you say [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muhammad_and_his_Wives:_Khadija_the_Great#cite_note-2 "Tabari 6:19-26"] (ref #3 on that page), do you mean the 6th volume and page 19-26? I have the 40 volume set of Tabari and I cant find mention of Khadija in vol 6, page 15. | |||
How about: | |||
*[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muhammad_and_his_Wives:_Khadija_the_Great#cite_note-25 Bukhari 73:151. See also Bukhari 8:150.] (ref #26) | |||
The way we format Bukhari on our site is: <nowiki>{{</nowiki>Bukhari|8|76|537}}. But even if your reference was in our format (e.g. {{Bukhari|8|73|151}}), sometimes that website may not have the hadith we're looking for. The way we do this is, if the linked reference doesn't show anything, we try to quote the actual hadith in the reference so its preserved on our site and the user can see it if they want to. This is important. | |||
For the reference you used, that one is available on the USC site. I type <nowiki>{{</nowiki>Bukhari|8|73|151}} and it comes out as {{Bukhari|8|73|151}}. Notice the complete reference for the hadith there "Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151" and note "volume 8". So the format we've used for Bukhari is based on how this website has the reference. So Bukhari references would have to be fixed and for hadiths which are not present on that site, we would need to quote that hadith verbatim in the Reference section. | |||
[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muhammad_and_his_Wives:_Khadija_the_Great#cite_note-37 Guillaume/Ibn Ishaq 155.] (ref #38), which says ''"When they mocked his beliefs, she railed against them with counter-mockery and continued to declare to the world that Muhammad was Allah’s messenger.[38]"'' | |||
I have Ishaq/Guill and I cant see anything about Khadija there (I'm looking at the book 'the life of Muhammad', translation of Ishaq by Guill, Oxford Univ Press, ISBN 0 19 636033 1). Or did you mean 155 to be the numbering on the sides? There I see some relevant matching information. Is there a reason you went by the side-numbering for Ishaq and not the page numbering? | |||
After this I may do some more random checks and sometime later I'll be talking about policies and guidelines, for example: | |||
* Sources: We must only talk about what the sources say. We cannot make assumptions, guesses, create facts or any kinds of derivations and embellishments (negative or positive). | |||
* Anything not related to criticism of Islam does not belong on our site. Neutral information is fine. | |||
thanks, --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User talk:Axius|talk]]) 17:21, 12 November 2012 (PST) | |||