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Hey Raman, I replied to your messages on my talk page and on the rape in Islamic law page. --[[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 21:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Hey Mushrik, I replied to your messages on my talk page and on the rape in Islamic law page. --[[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 21:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for volunteering. I reverted your edits on the Zina page because the rape was moved from the Hudood ordinance 1979 to the Pakistan Penal Code in 2006 (alluded to in the intro of the Rape article) and prosecuted very differently. Also, the language is too stretched to say a married woman rape victim "will" be accused of zina and punished. Rather, it's a high risk if she cannot prove that she was raped. So that could perhaps be re-added with better wording (also presumably even an unmarried rape victim can be accused of zina, though the punishment would be different). We need to be precise as possible when citing sources and do significant research on a topic before editing, especially if sources are 20 years old (the Pak example).
Hi, thanks for volunteering. I reverted your edits on the Zina page because the rape was moved from the Hudood ordinance 1979 to the Pakistan Penal Code in 2006 (alluded to in the intro of the Rape article) and prosecuted very differently. Also, the language is too stretched to say a married woman rape victim "will" be accused of zina and punished. Rather, it's a high risk if she cannot prove that she was raped. So that could perhaps be re-added with better wording (also presumably even an unmarried rape victim can be accused of zina, though the punishment would be different). We need to be precise as possible when citing sources and do significant research on a topic before editing, especially if sources are 20 years old (the Pak example).
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==Changes to Muhammad and Booty==
==Changes to Muhammad and Booty==


Hi [[User:Raman|Raman]], I am not going to accept your change to the [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Muhammad and Booty]] Page. The additions you made cite tertiary sources with commentary, they are good but out of place on this page. Rather, since they all deal with slavery,  I would like to create a new page called "Slavery in Islamic Law" and you could put the material there. If you would like to work on the page, I can create it and then paste your material into it. Please let me know how you would like to proceed.--[[User:Asmith|Asmith]] ([[User talk:Asmith|talk]]) 05:36, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi [[User:Mushrik|Mushrik]], I am not going to accept your change to the [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Muhammad and Booty]] Page. The additions you made cite tertiary sources with commentary, they are good but out of place on this page. Rather, since they all deal with slavery,  I would like to create a new page called "Slavery in Islamic Law" and you could put the material there. If you would like to work on the page, I can create it and then paste your material into it. Please let me know how you would like to proceed.--[[User:Asmith|Asmith]] ([[User talk:Asmith|talk]]) 05:36, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
:I prefer the article being titled, "Islamic law on capturing and enslaving non-Muslims" but the matter we can add to such an article will be limited, so I will leave the choice to you. As an ex-Moose, you will know better.-[[User:Mushrik|Mushrik]] ([[User talk:Mushrik|talk]]) 16:56, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
:I prefer the article being titled, "Islamic law on capturing and enslaving non-Muslims" but the matter we can add to such an article will be limited, so I will leave the choice to you. As an ex-Moose, you will know better.-[[User:Mushrik|Mushrik]] ([[User talk:Mushrik|talk]]) 16:56, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
::I am not actually an ex-Muslim. I would very much like to create the Slavery in Islamic Law article there and let you put the material there. I will go ahead and create it now.--[[User:Asmith|Asmith]] ([[User talk:Asmith|talk]]) 01:55, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
::I am not actually an ex-Muslim. I would very much like to create the Slavery in Islamic Law article there and let you put the material there. I will go ahead and create it now.--[[User:Asmith|Asmith]] ([[User talk:Asmith|talk]]) 01:55, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
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