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== Conclusion == | == Conclusion == | ||
The Quran and subsequent Islamic literature shows it confirming local folklore around stars being the same | The Quran and subsequent Islamic literature shows it confirming local folklore around stars being the same as shooting stars, and that one of their functions is to be used as missiles to keep spying evil [https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Jinn jinn] away from angel meetings, just how they were understood in their historical context. Modern times have meant apologists have come up with explanations often not included in the text, or that are themselves based on faulty science (such as cosmic rays). | ||
This is an attempt to come up with an explanation for an unknown natural phenomena, being the flames across the sky which look like stars, which has made it into Islamic scripture | This is an attempt to come up with an explanation for an unknown natural phenomena, being the flames across the sky which look like stars, which has made it into Islamic scripture. These verses and story would of course fit a relatively small universe as imagined by 7th century Bedouins, with the stars appearing visible distances away from each other, and were assumed to be the same thing as 'shooting stars'/meteors, as it was interpretated at the time (including by many other cultures), and backed up by 'sahih' (authentic) hadith. | ||
On a separate note, though stars are described as an ornament or beauty for the sky in [https://quranx.com/37.6 Quran 37:6], and [https://quranx.com/67.5 Quran 67:5], there are an estimated minimum c.100 septillion stars in the known universe, but only a few thousand are actually visible to the naked eye. | On a separate note, though stars are described as an ornament or beauty for the sky in [https://quranx.com/37.6 Quran 37:6], and [https://quranx.com/67.5 Quran 67:5], there are an estimated minimum c.100 septillion stars in the known universe, but only a few thousand are actually visible to the naked eye. | ||
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== Further science and the argument of meteors == | == Further science and the argument of meteors == | ||
=== '''Technical definitions used throughout'''<ref><nowiki>https://www.dictionary.com/e/meteor-vs-asteroid-vs-comet/</nowiki>> </ref>''':''' === | |||
''Meteoroids'' are the somewhat small, rocky or metal-based objects flying around space, typically unseen except with sophisticated equipment. They are often fragments of asteroids or comets. | ''Meteoroids'' are the somewhat small, rocky or metal-based objects flying around space, typically unseen except with sophisticated equipment. They are often fragments of asteroids or comets. | ||
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''Stars''<ref>[https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/what-is-a-star/#:~:text=But%20just%20what%20is%20a,the%20closest%20star%20to%20Earth. https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/what-is-a-star/#:~:text=But%20just%20what%20is%20a,the%20closest%20star%20to%20Earth.]</ref> are a luminous ball of gas, mostly hydrogen and helium, held together by its own gravity. Nuclear fusion reactions in its core support the star against gravity and produce photons and heat, as well as small amounts of heavier elements. The Sun is the closest star to Earth. | ''Stars''<ref>[https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/what-is-a-star/#:~:text=But%20just%20what%20is%20a,the%20closest%20star%20to%20Earth. https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/what-is-a-star/#:~:text=But%20just%20what%20is%20a,the%20closest%20star%20to%20Earth.]</ref> are a luminous ball of gas, mostly hydrogen and helium, held together by its own gravity. Nuclear fusion reactions in its core support the star against gravity and produce photons and heat, as well as small amounts of heavier elements. The Sun is the closest star to Earth. | ||
'''Further Science and the argument of meteors''' | === '''Further Science and the argument of meteors''' === | ||
Although not the main argument of this page, which is to show the conflation of stars and meteors (shooting stars), it is worth noting the absurdity of meteors being used as weapons as many apologists claim, in light of modern science. | Although not the main argument of this page, which is to show the conflation of stars and meteors (shooting stars), it is worth noting the absurdity of meteors being used as weapons as many apologists claim, in light of modern science. | ||
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As mentioned briefly earlier, ''comets do not make flames or have fire at their head'', but ice melting and disintegrating under a barrage of solar radiation. For this reason, they only sprout a tail near the sun. In fact the tails direction more influenced by direction of the sun than the Comet trajectory.<ref>[https://www.lpi.usra.edu/education/explore/comets/background/#:~:text=Because%20sunlight%20and%20solar%20wind,is%20moving%20in%20its%20orbit. https://www.lpi.usra.edu/education/explore/comets/background/#:~:text=Because%20sunlight%20and%20solar%20wind,is%20moving%20in%20its%20orbit.]</ref> Comet ion tails are comprised of glowing lightweight gases ionised by UV light, this reflecting sunlight, not a flame.<ref><nowiki>https://www.google.com/amp/s/solarsystem.nasa.gov/asteroids-comets-and-meteors/comets/in-depth.amp</nowiki></ref> These do not match the ''flaming pursuing lamps of the jinn - which would be scientifically inaccurate''. When they are far from their stars comets are just cold dark space bodies movies on a highly eccentric ellipse path. | As mentioned briefly earlier, ''comets do not make flames or have fire at their head'', but ice melting and disintegrating under a barrage of solar radiation. For this reason, they only sprout a tail near the sun. In fact the tails direction more influenced by direction of the sun than the Comet trajectory.<ref>[https://www.lpi.usra.edu/education/explore/comets/background/#:~:text=Because%20sunlight%20and%20solar%20wind,is%20moving%20in%20its%20orbit. https://www.lpi.usra.edu/education/explore/comets/background/#:~:text=Because%20sunlight%20and%20solar%20wind,is%20moving%20in%20its%20orbit.]</ref> Comet ion tails are comprised of glowing lightweight gases ionised by UV light, this reflecting sunlight, not a flame.<ref><nowiki>https://www.google.com/amp/s/solarsystem.nasa.gov/asteroids-comets-and-meteors/comets/in-depth.amp</nowiki></ref> These do not match the ''flaming pursuing lamps of the jinn - which would be scientifically inaccurate''. When they are far from their stars comets are just cold dark space bodies movies on a highly eccentric ellipse path. | ||
To burn up in the atmosphere to create an actual flame would require them being thrown | To burn up in the atmosphere to create an actual flame would require them being thrown distances of usually hundreds of millions of miles to finally create a flame near Earth, other than an unbelievably rare instance of close planet encounters. | ||
They also travel from around 2,000mph to over 100,000mph,<ref>https://www.mrsd.org/cms/lib/NH01912397/Centricity/Domain/245/comets.pdf</ref> making them very awkward sources for weapons to defend against a meeting being held. | They also travel from around 2,000mph to over 100,000mph,<ref>https://www.mrsd.org/cms/lib/NH01912397/Centricity/Domain/245/comets.pdf</ref> making them very awkward sources for weapons to defend against a meeting being held. | ||