Historical Errors in the Quran: Revision history

16 November 2024

• curprev 23:1023:10, 16 November 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 170,798 bytes +96‎ →‎Unknown religion in the Qur'an: Added this section as I believe its relevant in that we can see that many stories of prophets in the Qur'an come from much later writings than the biblical versions - making the chance of them being historically accurate even lower. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]
• curprev 23:0323:03, 16 November 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 170,702 bytes +11,179‎ →‎Hāmān in ancient Egypt: Have added in more evidence and explanation between Haman and ancient Persian elements (incorrectly) moved into ancient Egypt - from Adam Silverstein's work, highlighting the historical issues. Tag: Visual edit

13 November 2024

• curprev 14:0114:01, 13 November 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 159,523 bytes +606‎ →‎Unknown words in the Quran: Added another reference to an article on the false ascribing of unknown words to earlier Islamic figures in exegetical reports by Joshua Little. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

16 October 2024

• curprev 21:3921:39, 16 October 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 158,917 bytes +264‎ →‎Pharoah as a name and not a title: Sharpened up previous post slightly to make the point and wording clearer :) Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]
• curprev 21:1621:16, 16 October 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 158,653 bytes +5,084‎ →‎The singular Pharaoh: Added the mistake of the pharaoh being a name not a title Tag: Visual edit

5 October 2024

• curprev 07:3407:34, 5 October 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 153,569 bytes +3,578‎ →‎Mecca as a safe sanctuary: Added another historical error int he Moses talks of previous kings among his people in the Qur'an narrative, before Israel existed. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

19 September 2024

• curprev 21:3921:39, 19 September 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 149,991 bytes +9,909‎ →‎The Children of Israel in Egypt: Have added in the 'double whammy' historical error of the Israelites inheriting Egypt in the Qur'an along with Israel. Have provided academic references as well as for the reason this error occurred. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

1 September 2024

• curprev 16:5916:59, 1 September 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 140,082 bytes 0‎ →‎The Historical Jesus: Added a similar section on John the Baptist - highlighting that secular scholarship also considers him along with Jesus to have preached that the apocalypse was at hand - not matching the Qur'anic version. Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 16:5816:58, 1 September 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 140,082 bytes +4,149‎ →‎The Historical Jesus: Added a similar section on John the Baptist - highlighting that secular scholarship also considers him along with Jesus to have preached that the apocalypse was at hand - not matching the Qur'anic version. Tag: Visual edit

31 August 2024

• curprev 15:5515:55, 31 August 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 135,933 bytes +2,532‎ →‎The Historical Jesus: Added a small section to strengthen the point on Jesus's Ethical teachings and their apocalyptic context, Academic references provided. Tag: Visual edit

29 August 2024

• curprev 20:5420:54, 29 August 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 133,401 bytes +23,189‎ →‎Surah of the elephant: I have added a section on the historical Jesus, with historical-critical research from biblical scholars not matching the Qur'anic version. So far I have covered 1 consensus aspect (imminent apocalypse), though I certainly plan to add more including apocalyptic teachings, John the Baptist, and other incompatible early beliefs. I've left longer footnotes than usual as it's a topic not many will be familiar with - so please let me know if you want them shortened. Thanks Tag: Visual edit

16 August 2024

• curprev 10:0010:00, 16 August 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 110,212 bytes +544‎ →‎Countable currency in ancient Egypt: Added two academic sources for ancient Egyptian anachronisms - from Sean W Anthony's Reddit AMA on r/AcademicQuran. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

12 August 2024

• curprev 11:5611:56, 12 August 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 109,668 bytes 0‎ →‎Surah of the elephant: Fixed minor typos. Tag: Visual edit

8 August 2024

• curprev 21:3121:31, 8 August 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 109,668 bytes +341‎ →‎Surah of the elephant: Added some minor changes to improve clarity. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]
• curprev 18:4318:43, 8 August 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 109,327 bytes +15,602‎ →‎Suliman's missing kingdom: Have added a section on the elephant of Surah of the Elephant (and all surrounding Islamic traditions) being a legend. Tag: Visual edit

29 June 2024

• curprev 18:5718:57, 29 June 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 93,725 bytes +1,384‎ →‎Massive wall of iron: Have added in the separate historical error for Dhul-Qarnayn being monotheist under building the iron wall. And added a minor references for the word dirham and said 'former' Hymarite kingdom (as technically it wasn't called that by the time of Muhammad any more - even though the point still stands and it was a Jewish/Christian Kingdom to the South of Mecca with large Arabian peninsular influence so relevant to mention). Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

26 June 2024

• curprev 22:3322:33, 26 June 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 92,341 bytes +5,059‎ →‎Unknown words in the Quran: Expanded this section, furthering the point with the unknown meaning/identity of Sabaeans in the Quran, and the issue's it poses for the traditional account being taken as real history. Tag: Visual edit

12 June 2024

• curprev 15:5815:58, 12 June 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 87,282 bytes +2,866‎ →‎Massive wall of iron: Have added in the 'yawm' meaning 'day' reference/citation as well as the full context of the other 'trumpet blowing' verses showing that they only happen on judgement day. Tag: Visual edit

10 June 2024

• curprev 12:1812:18, 10 June 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 84,416 bytes +169‎ →‎Noah's worldwide flood: I have expanded the names of popular traditional scholars out a bit to highlight the point. Tag: Visual edit

3 June 2024

• curprev 13:4213:42, 3 June 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 84,247 bytes +1,374‎ →‎Unknown words in the Quran: Added another academic reference on the issue of unknown words and their ambiguity to commentators on the Quran. Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 13:1213:12, 3 June 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 82,873 bytes +920‎ →‎Ancient Mosque in Jerusalem: I have added an academic reference to when the mentioned Mosque was built, as well as a point about it not being the furthest place of worship at the time of Muhammad, with references. Tag: Visual edit

31 March 2024

• curprev 00:3000:30, 31 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 81,953 bytes +15‎ →‎Noah's worldwide flood: Added the missing linked Quran verse. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

25 March 2024

• curprev 16:1116:11, 25 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 81,938 bytes +3,979‎ →‎The Battle of Badr: Added some more academic notes on the issues with traditions relating to the battle of Badr. Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 11:3711:37, 25 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 77,959 bytes +5,272‎ →‎Regarding the Traditional Historical Account of the Quran's Origins: have added two more issue's with the Quran's traditional account, citing Michael Cook (Islamic scholar). Tag: Visual edit

17 March 2024

• curprev 12:1312:13, 17 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 72,687 bytes +374‎ →‎The Battle of Badr: Expanded the Tom Holland quote to give more context to general historical issues of later traditions. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]
• curprev 12:1112:11, 17 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 72,313 bytes +4,176‎ →‎Every people had a Muslim warner/prophet: Added a section on historicity issues with 'The Battle of Badr' interpretations. Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 10:4310:43, 17 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 68,137 bytes +3,845‎ →‎Regarding ancient religious doctrine: Added a section on the claim that the 'most ancient' scriptures contain warnings of hell verses the academic consensus of a later development. Tag: Visual edit

12 March 2024

• curprev 08:5408:54, 12 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 64,292 bytes +416‎ →‎Every people had a Muslim warner/prophet: As discussed: added a reference for the interchangeability of the word 'people' with 'town/city/village' in the Quran in the context of warner's. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

9 March 2024

• curprev 10:3410:34, 9 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 63,876 bytes +15‎ →‎Destroyed towns nearby Mecca Tag: Visual edit [checked by IbnPinker]
• curprev 10:3110:31, 9 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 63,861 bytes +1,423‎ →‎Regarding the Traditional Historical Account of the Quran's Origins: Added another point on the 'Destroyed towns nearby Mecca' and referenced. Tag: Visual edit

8 March 2024

• curprev 18:0818:08, 8 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 62,438 bytes +1,481‎ →‎Sodom and Gomorrah being located near Mecca and Medina: Added in a small section on the verse about The Romans being defeated in a nearby land and the questions that has raised some academics. Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 12:2612:26, 8 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 60,957 bytes +4,919‎ Added in a section on historical issues on the Origins of the Quran and the traditional Islamic account which I think best suits this page. Tag: Visual edit

7 March 2024

• curprev 15:2615:26, 7 March 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 56,038 bytes +6,471‎ Have added a historical error on the (well-known in biblical studies) lack of archaeological record for Suliman's great Kingdom, and cited academic sources. The Smithsonian article linked provides the relevant quotes from Aren Maeir, and The Bible Unearthed (Israel Finkelstein/Neil Asher Silberman) Tag: Visual edit

28 February 2024

• curprev 00:2000:20, 28 February 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 49,567 bytes +611‎ →‎Regarding general history: Also added in the extra relevant Quran verses. Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 00:1600:16, 28 February 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 48,956 bytes +372‎ →‎Massive wall of iron: Added in text to get this to match the scientific errors page version with extra context on the angels trumpets blowing on judgement day added, and a link to the main Dhul Qarnayn - Alexander Romance article. Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 00:1000:10, 28 February 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 48,584 bytes +5,736‎ I have added in a historical error section on 'Every people had a Muslim warner/prophet' and the (huge) lack of evidence for this claim. Plus two relevant YouTube videos to two topics on this page (Noah and Christology in the Quran). Tag: Visual edit

22 February 2024

• curprev 22:3822:38, 22 February 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 42,848 bytes +681‎ →‎Haman in ancient Egypt: Added a new potential historical error, with Mecca being sworn on as a safe sanctuary. Tag: Visual edit

17 February 2024

• curprev 16:0416:04, 17 February 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 42,167 bytes +2,643‎ →‎Noah's worldwide flood: Have added in some more verses on the story of Noah relevant for it being a worldwide flood. And made the point that all classical scholars took it to refer to a worldwide flood citing a range of the most popular exegesis. Plus provided a link/source from an modern geologist academic providing an overview of the geological issues of a worldwide flood. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

11 February 2024

• curprev 20:3920:39, 11 February 2024‎ Exmuslimfrancais talk contribs‎ 39,524 bytes +390‎ →‎Noah's worldwide flood Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

25 December 2023

• curprev 12:5712:57, 25 December 2023‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 39,134 bytes −16‎ *Previous update missed a '{' Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]
• curprev 12:5612:56, 25 December 2023‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 39,150 bytes +2,091‎ →‎Ancient Mosque in Jerusalem: Added in a short section on the seemingly misplaced biblical Haman from the Persian Empire to the Egyptian story in the Quran Tag: Visual edit

13 November 2023

• curprev 23:2923:29, 13 November 2023‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 37,059 bytes −3,383‎ Rejected the last text change (by CPO675) and restored revision 137181 by Lightyears: This is not an error in the Quran but rather potentially a problem for traditional Islamic history. You may wish to add it as a new section on the Lut page instead. Tag: Manual revert [automatically checked]

11 November 2023

• curprev 23:2323:23, 11 November 2023‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 40,442 bytes +3,383‎ →‎Ancient Mosque in Jerusalem: Have added a section on the historical problem of the Qur'an referring to it's listeners as being near the destroyed towns of Lut's preaching, and have quoted (and linked) to Patricia Crone's article on this matter. Tags: Reverted Visual edit

19 September 2023

• curprev 00:5200:52, 19 September 2023‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 37,059 bytes +277‎ No edit summary [automatically checked]

15 March 2023

• curprev 01:5201:52, 15 March 2023‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 36,782 bytes +1,145‎ →‎Crucifixions in ancient Egypt [automatically checked]

12 January 2023

• curprev 12:1612:16, 12 January 2023‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 35,637 bytes +477‎ →‎Mary as part of the Trinity [automatically checked]

9 December 2022

• curprev 01:2501:25, 9 December 2022‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 35,160 bytes +931‎ →‎Samaritans in ancient Egypt [automatically checked]

24 October 2022

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23 October 2022

• curprev 17:4717:47, 23 October 2022‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 34,229 bytes +1,033‎ Fixed typos and pasted the further useful commentary from the sci errors page [automatically checked]

25 April 2022

• curprev 21:5721:57, 25 April 2022‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 33,196 bytes +2,564‎ →‎Regarding general history [automatically checked]