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News

Islam in the news hasn't been updated for a couple of months. Would you like me to make some suggestions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LawrenceGilmore (talk • contribs) on 13:23, 21 February 2014

Hi Lawrence. Yeah, it hasn't been updated in a while. Another admin (Al-Qaum) is usually in charge of that section but has taken a break. He's told me that he'll be back very soon and will update it fully. But what ideas do you have? --Sahab (talk) 15:45, 21 February 2014 (PST)

I think we should remove the news section until its updated again because its all from December and its not making the main page look good. We can remove the section, switch to auto somehow or update it manually. Another easy option: Just use links and dont put the text of the news website in. Any of these are better than having old news. --Axius (talk) 16:18, 21 February 2014 (PST)

Okay, I'll update it weekly with a few news stories until Al returns. --Sahab (talk) 16:43, 21 February 2014 (PST)

Alright sounds good. I hope you just add external links because its easy. I really dont think there's a lot to gain if the extract/text archiving is done too but I think you said that it keeps the visitor on the site (they can always press 'back'). Its up to you. I wanted to find a feature that allows us to open links in a new window if we ask it to but I couldn't find it. --Axius (talk) 16:47, 21 February 2014 (PST)

There are several benefits gained from the format we are currently using (in addition to keeping visitors on the site):

1. It's like our very own news site/blog (like how Wikipedia's news section links to WikiNews).
2. We want WikiIslam to be an all-in-one resource. This helps us achieve that. When it was updated regularly, many readers commented positively on it, mentioning how WikiIslam is the only site they need.
3. When Al adds news about LGBT issues, converts, apostates, statistics etc., he usually adds it to our relevant articles ("Persecution of...", "Converts to Islam" etc.). If he was no longer quoting these news pages, then those other pages would never be updated. --Sahab (talk) 17:48, 21 February 2014 (PST)

Well yea it does have its benefits - good points. Its just a lot to keep up with on a regular basis. --Axius (talk) 18:08, 21 February 2014 (PST)

"Did you know" portal

How about a "did you know" portal? Then along with new articles, lets put recently improved articles. Saggy (talk) 12:30, 3 April 2014 (PDT)

"Did you know" is a good idea but there's a similar pictorial Islam section at the bottom. I know Main page could be improved but we just dont have enough people at this time to do all the stuff that needs to be done. --Axius (talk | contribs) 15:30, 3 April 2014 (PDT)

As Axius noted, we already have a section on the front page that generates random interesting articles. If we did have such a section, what would be in it? Things like "Did you know... Muhammad Married and had intercourse with a nine-year-old" would look a lot less professional than simply having it the way we have it know (i.e. a heading, "Muhammad and Aisha", followed by a description). Then there is the issue of maintenance. There is no point in adding to our already long to-do list with things that require a lot of work and/or need constant updating. --Sahab (talk) 00:36, 4 April 2014 (PDT)

Adding content to the Main page

I have a suggestion. I have found many interesting articles that i cannot see on the main page, and therefore we cannot fastly reach them. Examples: ~The article about Scientific errors and contradictions in the quran and the hadith. An article about the miraculous nature of Vigils georgias --Einstein reason (talk) 17:13, 7 October 2014 (PDT)

Thanks for the suggestions. Contradictions in the Quran is a very important article but it has been under review for a long time and because of that I would think it would not be an article we would like to link on the main page. The other one (Miracles in Vigils..) is probably not that important (but still interesting). People can get to it through various other means (Site map, Quran page etc). Thats my input in any case. --Axius (talk | contribs) 17:20, 7 October 2014 (PDT)

There is only so many articles you can add to the main page. There are 2,790 of them in total and most of them are great, but they obviously can't all go there. So we've limited them to the best/most relevant.

The place to go to when looking for an article on any site like this one (Wikipedia, etc.), is never the front page. It's the search function or the site map. That is how you can easily find any page. Even without that, this website goes one better than Wikipedia by linking every single hub page at the bottom of the main page (the errors and contradictions page is also linked there).

Finally, as Axius has already noted, pages that are tagged for quality etc., are not front page material, and the Georgics articles you have suggested for the main page is already there. It is on the right hand side, under "Humor and Satire". --Sahab (talk) 19:06, 7 October 2014 (PDT)

Add

Add Scientific Errors in the Qur'an to main page, under "Science and Miracles."--AAA (talk) 16:26, 11 December 2015 (EST)

Khalid ibn al-Walid

Khalid Ibn Al-Walid was born in Mecca, Saudi Arabia in the year of 592 A.D. to the parents

Walid ibn al-Mughira (the father) and Lubabah- As-Saghirah (the mother). His brothers’ names

were Hasham bin al-Walid, Ammarah bin al-Walid, Walid bin al Walid, and Najiyah bin al-

Walid. Khalid’s father was very wealthy and was the head of the Banu Makhzum clan of the

Arab tribe of the Quraysh that had originally resisted against Prophet Muhammed. Khalid’s

father was also known as The Unique, or in Arabic- Al-Wahid (وحيد). Khalid’s mother, on the

other hand was from the Hilal tribe, a division of the Amir who were well known in Mecca.

(This tribe was separate from the Quraysh.)

Shortly after his birth, Khalid was sent to a Bedouin tribe with his foster mother to grow up in 

the fresh air of the desert. He had a mild attack of small pox, but soon recovered, leaving small

marks on his face. At the age of five or six Khalid went back to his parents in Mecca.

The three most important clans of Quraysh in Khalid’s time were the Banu Hashim, Banu Abd-

al-dar, and Banu Makhzum. The Banu Makhzum clan was responsible for the problems of war.

So as a child, Khalid was taught to use the spear, lance, bow, and sword (Most people say that

the lance was Khalid’s favorite, although resources are conflicted.). Also Khalid was a popular

wrestler and warrior among the Meccans.

Khalid was over six feet tall, had a lean and athletic body with a very forceful personality. 

Khalid also had a beard that looked full and thick on his face. 

Khalid and Umar (the second Caliph), were very close friends. They were related to each other, 

Khalid the ‘uncle’ and Umar the ‘nephew’. They had very close facial resemblance, many people

often confused one with the other. They were very close friends growing up. Yet Khalid’s best

friend and favorite nephew was Abdullah Hakim.

Khalid converted to Islam only three years before the Prophet Muhammed passed away. The 

Prophet’s first revelation came down when Khalid was 24. Khalid was initially opposed to

Islam when the revelations started coming down. Yet one day Khalid was sitting near the

Ka’abah, thinking. He thought about Islam. And suddenly it came to him that Islam was THE

religion. Soon the word spread that Khalid was going to become a Muslim. Abu- Sufyan was

enraged!! But Ikrimah (the first person to hear about Khalid’s change of mind) said to Abu-

Sufyan, “Steady Oh Abu- Sufyan! Your anger may well lead me to join Muhammed. Khalid is

free to follow whichever religion he chooses.” Khalid soon put on his armour, and rode to

Madinah. On his way he met Amr ibn al-Aas and Uthman ibn Talha, they were surprised to meet

each other. They continued their journey together and reached Madinah on May 31 692 A.D. (1

Safar the 8 Higri year). They were warmly welcomed to Islam by the Prophet. Note that

Khalid is now 43.

When Khalid became a Muslim, he asked the Prophet to pray for him, which the Prophet 

did. Khalid did not fight in the earlier Islamic battles, he was one who fought close to the Prophet

 in the battles that he did fight in. The first battle in which Khalid won for Muslims was the 

army in the Battle of Mu’tah between the Muslims and the Byzantines. The reason for the battle

was the many skirmishes between the Muslims and the Byzantines. The Byzantine rulers in the

Syrian region had even killed some Muslims and converts to Islam showing their aggression. Yet

the killing of the Muslim messenger, Al-Haarith ibn ‘Umayr set the Muslims ‘on edge’. Since

the Prophet Muhammad   knew that the Byzantine rulers in the Syrian region had killed some

Muslims and converts to Islam showing their aggression to Islam he chose three military leaders

to succeed one another. The hadith by the Prophet was, “If Zayd ibn Haarithah is wounded,

let Ja‘far ibn Abi Taalib succeed him. If Ja‘far is wounded, let ‘Abdullah ibn Rawaahah, succeed

him."

In the battle the three commanders were killed, and the banner was about to fall on the ground 

when Thabit ibn AI-Arqam rushed to save it; he took it to Khalid, telling him that he gave it to

him because he was most knowledgeable in matters of war. In the beginning Khalid refused

thinking that Thabit was more worthy of leading the army because of his assistance to Islam. But

later on, he accepted the insistence of Thabit and the (Muslim) fighters.

The only way to ‘stay safe’ was to retreat, but that was almost impossible, since the Muslim 

army was surrounded. It was here where the genius of Khalid at work. Despite the extreme

trickiness of the situation, he relocated the right and left sides of the Muslim army and brought

forward a seperation from the back to make the Byzantines think that fresh reinforcements had

arrived. Khalid managed to make an opening within the lines of the enemy through which the

Muslim army managed to get out safely. We are told in Sahih Al-Bukhari that our hero used

seven swords that all broke in that battle although most say that it was nine swords. In this battle

was Khalid named ‘Sword of Allah’.

Some other battles in which Khalid fought in were: - Tabook, Hunain, and the battle of Ta’if 

which was a continuation of the battle of Hunain. In this battle (Hunain), the non-Muslims had

ambushed the Muslims which had caused some Muslims to flee the battle completely. Yet

around the Prophet (ص (was a small group fighting strongly against the non-Muslims. It is said

that only twelve people remained, fighting in a circle around the Prophet (ص (. Some of the more

known fighters were Abu Bakr ibn Qhuhafah, Umar ibn al-Khattab, Ali ibn Abi Talib, and

Khalid ibn- al Walid. They were all bruised and scratched, yet they still stood to protect the

Prophet (ص (.  

In the year of 642 (the 21 year of Hijra) when Khalid passed away. The illness is unknown, but 

it took his strength out of him at a rapid pace and was said to be prolonged. Khalid was impatient

of his death fate, instead of being a violent battle death. While on his death bed a friend went to

see Khalid. Khalid asked, “Do you see a space of the span of a hand on my leg, chest, or arm

which is not covered by some scar of the wound of a sword or an arrow or a lance?” The friend

told Khalid that he did not see any space. Khalid asked this question, until he asked about his

whole body. Then Khalid asked, “Do you see?! I have sought martyrdom in a hundred battles,

why could I not have died in battle?” His friend replied, “You could not have died in battle.”

“Why not?” said Khalid “You must understand Oh Khalid,” said the friend explained, “That the

messenger of Allah (swt) on whom be blessings of Allah (swt) and peace predetermined that you

would not fall in battle. If you had been killed by an unbeliever, it would have meant that Allah

(swt)’s sword had been broken by an enemy of Allah (swt), and that could never do.” Khalid’s

head could see the logic in his friend’s words, but his heart still wanted death in combat.

Khalid’s possessions as he died were: - his armour, horse, weapons, and one faithful servant- 

Hamam. As Khalid died he said one last sentence, “I die even as a camel dies. I die in bed, in

shame. The eyes of the cowards do not close even in sleep.” Thus was the death of the famous

Khalid Ibn Al-Walid, Sword of Allah.

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