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Ano, to je pravda. Ale všimněme si minulého času. Oni "považovali", ne "považují". Manželství s malými dívkami bylo dříve vnímáno jako normální, nicméně většina američanů a evropanů dnes, jak náboženských tak sekulárních, považuje dětské sňatky za odporné. Mohlo by to být tím, že nemají uswa hasana (dokonalý vzor chování), který si vzal dítě a měl s ním sex?
Ano, to je pravda. Ale všimněme si minulého času. Oni "považovali", ne "považují". Manželství s malými dívkami bylo dříve vnímáno jako normální, nicméně většina američanů a evropanů dnes, jak náboženských tak sekulárních, považuje dětské sňatky za odporné. Mohlo by to být tím, že nemají uswa hasana (dokonalý vzor chování), který si vzal dítě a měl s ním sex?


To by vysvětlovalo, proč nevidíme jediného mainstreamového křesťana, který by chtěl legalizovat dětské sňatky na základě toho, že "Svatý Josef to také ([[#Marie si vzala 90-letého Josefa, když jí bylo jen 12, takže Josef je taky pedofil|údajně]]) dělal před 2000 lety", "Král Richard II to dělal před 600 lety"<ref>N.B. Note that King Richard II's marriage to a child was never consummated. Although he visited his young bride nearly every day, they lived in different houses and did not sleep under the same roof, let alone in the same bed. King Richard was murdered when Queen Isabella was only eleven years old, and she was at that time still a virgin. Medieval Europeans, especially royalty, frequently arranged marriages in which one or both parties were prepubescent. But it was extremely unusual for such a marriage to be consummated before puberty.</ref> nebo, že zákaz by byl "ne-křesťanský". Zatímco většina mainstreamových muslimských učenců argumentují pro dětské svatby na základě toho, že "Prorok Mohamed to dělal před 1400 lety",<ref name="University of Houston">Sheik Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baaz, supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia: "''...If she is married without her permission, by threat or coercion, then the marriage is not valid. The only exeption is in the case of the father and his daughter who is less than nine years of age. There is no harm if he gets her married while she is less than nine years old, according to the correct opinion. This is based on the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) marrying Aisha without her consent when she was less than nine years old, as is stated in authentic Hadith...''" - [http://web.archive.org/web/20040216151301/http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/articles/fatawawom/marriage.html Questions Related to Marriage/ Is it allowed for a father to force his daughter to marry a specific man that she does not want to marry?] - Muslim Students Organization of the University of Houston</ref><ref name="Sheikh Hamoud">Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi, general secretary of the Vice and Virtue Committee and member of the Islah Party in Yemen: "''Because this happened to the Prophet, we cannot tell people that it is prohibited to marry at an early age''" - [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7711554.stm Child marriage and divorce in Yemen] - Jenny Cuff, BBC, November 6, 2008</ref><ref name="Mufti Fazlul">Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini: "''Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, who also married minor Ayesha, when she was just eight years old. The new law [seeking to ban child marriages] initiated by the current government [of Bangladesh] will put the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge. Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.''" - [http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1386/islamist-leader-threatens-of-waging-jihad <!-- Backup link from Jihad Watch {{Reference archive|1=http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/bangladesh-islamic-cleric-threatens-jihad-if-child-marriage-is-banned.html|2=2011-04-23}}  -->Islamist leader threatens of waging Jihad] - Weekly Blitz, April 20, 2011</ref><ref name="Imam Sani">Imam Sani, a Nigerian cleric: "''Child marriage in Islam is permissible. In the Koran there is no specific age of marriage...[If the government imposed new laws against child marriage] There will be violent conflict from the Muslims, saying that 'no, we will not accept this, we'd rather die than accept something which is not a law from Allah.'''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.aina.org/news/20090918145141.htm|2=2011-10-25}} Child Marriage in the Islamic World] - AINA, September 18, 2009</ref><ref name="Sheikh Mohamed Ben">Sheikh Mohamed Ben Abderrahman Al-Maghraoui: "''The marriage of nine-year-old girls is not forbidden because according to the Hadith (the Prophet Mohammed's sayings), Mohammed married Aisha when she was only seven-years-old and he consummated his union when she was nine.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=27880|2=2011-10-25}} Moroccan theologian: Muslim girls can wed at nine] - Middle East Online, September 15, 2008</ref> "prorokovi [[Mohamedovi společníci a pedofilie|společníci to dělali]]"<ref>"''Getting married at an early age is something that is confirmed by the book of Allah, the Sunnah of his Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam), the consensus of the scholars and the actions of the companions, and the Muslims who came after them... There are many Ahadith which confirm that marriage at an early age was widespread among the companions and no one denied its permissibility. Getting married at an early age was not peculiar to the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) as some people think, but it was general for him and for his Ummah. The following are some of the actions of the Sahaba (companions): 1. Ali Ibn Abi Talib, may Allah be pleased with him, married his daughter, Um Kulthum to Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, and she mothered a child before the death of the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam). Omar got married to her while she was young before reaching the age of puberty. This is reported by Ibn Saad in 'Al-Tabaqat'. 2. From Urwa Ibn Zubair: that Zubair, may Allah be pleased with him, married his daughter when she was very young. Reported by Saeed Ibn Mansour, in his Sunnah, and Ibn Abi Shaibah, in Al-musannaf, with a Sahih chain of narration. Al-Shafie said in the book of Al-Um: "Many companions of the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) married their daughters while these were still young.''" - [http://www.webcitation.org/61C5nBLpe <!-- original URL http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=88089 -->Child marriage in Islam], Islamweb, Fatwa No. 88089, June 24, 2004</ref> nebo, že zákaz by byl "ne-islámský".<ref name="Imam Sani"></ref><ref name="Weekly Blitz">[http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1386/islamist-leader-threatens-of-waging-jihad <!-- Backup link from Jihad Watch {{Reference archive|1=http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/bangladesh-islamic-cleric-threatens-jihad-if-child-marriage-is-banned.html|2=2011-04-23}}  -->Islamist leader threatens of waging Jihad] - Weekly Blitz, April 20, 2011</ref><ref name="MESSAGE">yessir - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.abigmessage.com/child-marriage-death-of-13-year-old-bride-after-wedding.html|2=2011-10-25}} Child Marriage - Death Of 13 Year Old Bride After Wedding] - A BIG MESSAGE, April 10, 2010</ref><ref name="IRIN">[{{Reference archive|1=http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=88589|2=2011-10-25}} YEMEN: Deep divisions over child brides] - IRIN, March 28, 2010</ref> V některých případech byl vztah Mohameda a Aiši použit pro efektivní "posunutí času zpět" legalizací dětských manželství v místech, kde byly předtím ilegální.<ref name="World News Australia">[{{Reference archive|1=http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/outcry-over-malaysian-child-marriages-20100804-11fey.html|2=2011-10-25}} Outcry over Malaysian child marriages] - Sydney Morning Herald, August 4, 2010</ref>
To by vysvětlovalo, proč nevidíme jediného mainstreamového křesťana, který by chtěl legalizovat dětské sňatky na základě toho, že "Svatý Josef to také ([[#Marie si vzala 90-letého Josefa, když jí bylo jen 12, takže Josef je taky pedofil|údajně]]) dělal před 2000 lety", "Král Richard II to dělal před 600 lety"<ref>N.B. poznamenal, že král manželství krále Richarda II k holce nebylo nikdy konzumováno. Přestože navštěvoval svou mladou manželku téměř každý den, žili v oddělených domech a nespali pod jednou střechou, natož ve stejné posteli. Král Richard byl zavražděn, když bylo královně Isabelle jen jedenáct let, a byla v té době stále pannou. Středověcí evropané, především z královské rodiny, často chystali svatby ve kterých jedna nebo obě strany byly prepubescentní. Ale bylo velmi neobvyklé pro takové manželství, aby bylo konzumováno před pubertou.</ref> nebo, že zákaz by byl "ne-křesťanský". Zatímco většina mainstreamových muslimských učenců argumentují pro dětské svatby na základě toho, že "Prorok Mohamed to dělal před 1400 lety",<ref name="University of Houston">Sheik Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baaz, nejvyšší náboženská autorita Saudské Arábie: "''...Pokud je vdaná bez jejího svolení, výhružkou nebo donucením, poté je manželství neplatné. Jedinou výjimkou je když otec provdá dceru, které je méně, než devět let. Není zde újma, pokud ji provdá když jí je méně, než devět let, podle správného názoru. Tohle je založeno na poslu Aláhovu (mír s ním), který si vzal Aišu bez jejího svolení, když byla mladší devíti let, jak je řečeno v autentických hadísech...''" - [http://web.archive.org/web/20040216151301/http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/articles/fatawawom/marriage.html Otázky ohledně manželství/ Je dovoleno otci donutit svoji dceru vzít si určitého muže, kterého si nechce vzít?] - Muslim Students Organization of the University of Houston</ref><ref name="Sheikh Hamoud">Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi, general secretary of the Vice and Virtue Committee and member of the Islah Party in Yemen: "''Protože se toto stalo prorokovi, nemůžeme lidem říct, že je to zakázáno, vdávat se v nízkém věku''" - [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7711554.stm Child marriage and divorce in Yemen] - Jenny Cuff, BBC, November 6, 2008</ref><ref name="Mufti Fazlul">Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini: "''Zákaz dětských sňatků způsobí pochyby o manželství svatého proroka islámu, který si také vzal malou Aišu, když jí bylo jen osm let. Nový zákon [snažící se zrušit dětské sňatky] navržen aktuální vládou [Bangladéše] způsobí pochyby o morálním charakteru proroka. Islám povoluje dětské sňatky a nebude tolerováno pokdu se jakýkoliv vládce pokusí dotknout této záležitosti ve jménu ženských práv.''" - [http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1386/islamist-leader-threatens-of-waging-jihad <!-- Backup link from Jihad Watch {{Reference archive|1=http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/bangladesh-islamic-cleric-threatens-jihad-if-child-marriage-is-banned.html|2=2011-04-23}}  -->Islamist leader threatens of waging Jihad] - Weekly Blitz, April 20, 2011</ref><ref name="Imam Sani">Imam Sani, a Nigerian cleric: "''Child marriage in Islam is permissible. In the Koran there is no specific age of marriage...[If the government imposed new laws against child marriage] There will be violent conflict from the Muslims, saying that 'no, we will not accept this, we'd rather die than accept something which is not a law from Allah.'''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.aina.org/news/20090918145141.htm|2=2011-10-25}} Child Marriage in the Islamic World] - AINA, September 18, 2009</ref><ref name="Sheikh Mohamed Ben">Sheikh Mohamed Ben Abderrahman Al-Maghraoui: "''The marriage of nine-year-old girls is not forbidden because according to the Hadith (the Prophet Mohammed's sayings), Mohammed married Aisha when she was only seven-years-old and he consummated his union when she was nine.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=27880|2=2011-10-25}} Moroccan theologian: Muslim girls can wed at nine] - Middle East Online, September 15, 2008</ref> "prorokovi [[Mohamedovi společníci a pedofilie|společníci to dělali]]"<ref>"''Getting married at an early age is something that is confirmed by the book of Allah, the Sunnah of his Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam), the consensus of the scholars and the actions of the companions, and the Muslims who came after them... There are many Ahadith which confirm that marriage at an early age was widespread among the companions and no one denied its permissibility. Getting married at an early age was not peculiar to the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) as some people think, but it was general for him and for his Ummah. The following are some of the actions of the Sahaba (companions): 1. Ali Ibn Abi Talib, may Allah be pleased with him, married his daughter, Um Kulthum to Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, and she mothered a child before the death of the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam). Omar got married to her while she was young before reaching the age of puberty. This is reported by Ibn Saad in 'Al-Tabaqat'. 2. From Urwa Ibn Zubair: that Zubair, may Allah be pleased with him, married his daughter when she was very young. Reported by Saeed Ibn Mansour, in his Sunnah, and Ibn Abi Shaibah, in Al-musannaf, with a Sahih chain of narration. Al-Shafie said in the book of Al-Um: "Many companions of the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) married their daughters while these were still young.''" - [http://www.webcitation.org/61C5nBLpe <!-- original URL http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=88089 -->Child marriage in Islam], Islamweb, Fatwa No. 88089, June 24, 2004</ref> nebo, že zákaz by byl "ne-islámský".<ref name="Imam Sani"></ref><ref name="Weekly Blitz">[http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1386/islamist-leader-threatens-of-waging-jihad <!-- Backup link from Jihad Watch {{Reference archive|1=http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/bangladesh-islamic-cleric-threatens-jihad-if-child-marriage-is-banned.html|2=2011-04-23}}  -->Islamist leader threatens of waging Jihad] - Weekly Blitz, April 20, 2011</ref><ref name="MESSAGE">yessir - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.abigmessage.com/child-marriage-death-of-13-year-old-bride-after-wedding.html|2=2011-10-25}} Child Marriage - Death Of 13 Year Old Bride After Wedding] - A BIG MESSAGE, April 10, 2010</ref><ref name="IRIN">[{{Reference archive|1=http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=88589|2=2011-10-25}} YEMEN: Deep divisions over child brides] - IRIN, March 28, 2010</ref> V některých případech byl vztah Mohameda a Aiši použit pro efektivní "posunutí času zpět" legalizací dětských manželství v místech, kde byly předtím ilegální.<ref name="World News Australia">[{{Reference archive|1=http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/outcry-over-malaysian-child-marriages-20100804-11fey.html|2=2011-10-25}} Outcry over Malaysian child marriages] - Sydney Morning Herald, August 4, 2010</ref>


Člověkem vytvořené zákony se zřejmě vyvinuly s naší morálkou, zatímco [[Šaría]] (složená z Koránu a [[Sunna|Sunny]]) je viděna jako Aláhovo nezměnitelné svaté právo. Pokusit se jej změnit by bylo považováno za rouhání, znamenalo by to [[Bid'ah]], něco, co zakázal sám Mohamed.<ref>"''A'isha reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who innovates things in our affairs for which there is no valid (reason) (commits sin) and these are to be rejected.''" - {{Muslim|18|4266}}</ref><ref>"''Narrated Aisha: Allah's Apostle said, "If somebody innovates something which is not in harmony with the principles of our religion, that thing is rejected.''" - {{Bukhari|3|49|861}}</ref> Co může  být změněno je islámské soudnictví, ale to je odvozeno, a nesmí odporovat,<ref>Khalid Baig - [http://www.albalagh.net/general/bidah.shtml Sunnah and Bid'ah] - Albalagh, May 5, 2001</ref><ref>[http://www.alahazrat.net/islam/concept-of-bidah-in-islam.php Concept of Bidah in Islam] - Alahazrat International Islamic Web</ref> Šáríi. Výsledky zůstávají nepřijatelné pro moderní svět. Svět se posunul dál, ale islám ne.
Člověkem vytvořené zákony se zřejmě vyvinuly s naší morálkou, zatímco [[Šaría]] (složená z Koránu a [[Sunna|Sunny]]) je viděna jako Aláhovo nezměnitelné svaté právo. Pokusit se jej změnit by bylo považováno za rouhání, znamenalo by to [[Bid'ah]], něco, co zakázal sám Mohamed.<ref>"''A'isha reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who innovates things in our affairs for which there is no valid (reason) (commits sin) and these are to be rejected.''" - {{Muslim|18|4266}}</ref><ref>"''Narrated Aisha: Allah's Apostle said, "If somebody innovates something which is not in harmony with the principles of our religion, that thing is rejected.''" - {{Bukhari|3|49|861}}</ref> Co může  být změněno je islámské soudnictví, ale to je odvozeno, a nesmí odporovat,<ref>Khalid Baig - [http://www.albalagh.net/general/bidah.shtml Sunnah and Bid'ah] - Albalagh, May 5, 2001</ref><ref>[http://www.alahazrat.net/islam/concept-of-bidah-in-islam.php Concept of Bidah in Islam] - Alahazrat International Islamic Web</ref> Šáríi. Výsledky zůstávají nepřijatelné pro moderní svět. Svět se posunul dál, ale islám ne.
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