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Meteors as stars fired at devils
Introduction
Humans have always looked up at night and seen the stars lighting the sky. Folklore around stars, before our modern understanding of them as gigantic balls of gases, creating light energy via nuclear fusion,which takes years to reach us, has been creative and varied.
Due to their similar size and appearance, many ancient people have confused meteors, which are small rocky masses or grains of debris which burn up after entering the earth's atmosphere as stars streaking across the sky, which is why they were often called shooting stars (as we do in English), broken stars or falling stars.
On a typical night it means you might see just a few meteors an hour streaking randomly across the sky. These are called sporadic meteors. At certain times of the year these numbers can increase to around 100 meteors an hour in events called meteor showers, as Earth ploughs through denser streams of particles in its orbit around the Sun.[1] (BBC Sky at Night Magazine. 2023. Penny Wozniakiewicz)
Ancient beliefs around stars and meteors pre-Islam
Meteors as stars
For example, in Ancient Egypt civilisation, we see a strong resemblance of a shooting star by the author of ‘The Shipwrecked Sailor’ (c. 2000-1900 BC), which recounts a series of many adventures fantastic adventures, including a star falling to Earth:
And because of it these went up in fire.
This happened utterly...A discussion linking this event to being a meteorite can be found here(“Then a Star Fell:” Folk-Memory of a Celestial Impact Event in the Ancient Egyptian Tale of the Shipwrecked Sailor? Dr Lloyd D. Graham. 2022).[2] And for a further discussion of a theoretically catastrophic impact in ancient Egypt, see Aly Barakat, ‘Did the Kamil Meteorite Fall Contribute to the Downfall of the Old Kingdom?’, The Ostracon: Journal of the Egyptian Study Society, XXIV (Fall 2013), pp. 12–21.[3]
Biblical motifs
Though there is no direct stories of the functions of stars in this way in the bible (or biblical literature), Dr Julien Decharneux notes in his book 'Creation and Contemplation: The Cosmology of the Qur'ān and Its Late Antique Background. Berlin: De Gruyter. 2023', which explores the connections between the cosmology of the Qur’ān and various cosmological traditions of Late Antiquity, with a focus on Syriac Christianity,[4] there are some general motifs that link to this imagery; such as Talmudic stories of demons listening in to divine councils, and separately fire as weapons from the upper skies. However, there is no direct story for this (yet) found in biblical literature. He notes it is more likely rooted in Iranian mythology:
Can the demons ascend to the place on high anyway? They cannot because they are held back by the power of the one who destroyed them. It is not proper that defiled ones approach the Tent of the Saints […]. The fact that our Lord compared him to a lightning means two things: either that he lasted in his domination for the time of the sight of a lightning, or that when while he was shining as a lightning in glory, he was quenched at once and no traces of his splendour was left.
In fact, the motif of demons chased by flames finds particularly original renderings in the writings of Pseudo-Macarius and that of Syriac mystic authors studied in the second chapter. Building on the motif the inner divine fire that animates the mystic, they hold that it is the flames of this fire that chase away the demons from the heart. All in all, we see that Crone’s hypothesis of an eastern origin and development for the motif is quite likely. The image of fire and flames chasing demons away was not only widespread in Jewish circle as witnessed by the Babylonian Talmud, but it was also quite in use in the Church of the East tradition.Weapons against demons Many cultures had mythology surrounding meteors and meteorites, with some believing they were weapons, such as in ancient Africa and Mesopotamia:
And this may have inspired their use much later in Zoroastrianism, (which was a prominent religion in the Persian (Iranian) empire both before and during the time of the prophet Muhammad/beginning of Islam)), where we see the link between stars and meteors as weapons:
Islamic literature
In the Qur'an
The Qur'an states that stars (kawakib ٱلْكَوَاكِبِ), lamps (masabih مَصَٰبِيحَ) and/or great stars/constellations (burūj بُرُوجًا) adorn the heavens and guard against devils (shayāṭīn شياطين).
The Qur'an further asserts that Allah has made them (the stars/lamps) missiles to ward away devils (who are believed to be jinn in Islam), who attempt to listen in on heavenly meetings (known as the Exalted Assembly). The Quranic concept has a close parallel in an earlier Jewish development from Zoroastrian mythology. Such myths are best understood as pre-modern attempts to explain the common phenomenon of meteors streaking across the night sky. The relevant verses are below:
The same Arabic words are used at the start of Quran 67:5 as in Quran 37:6 (زَيَّنَّا ٱلسَّمَآءَ ٱلدُّنْيَا), except that in Quran 67:5 the word lamps is used instead of stars. The lamps that 'beautify the heaven' must refer to stars (and perhaps also the 5 visible planets), which are always there.
Stars and visible planets were often called the same thing (kawakib ٱلْكَوَاكِبِ) due to their similar appearance, with stars appearing 'fixed' and planets notably 'moving', usually differentiated by astronomers by labelling them respectively. This is confirmed by astronomers such as Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi who around 964 wrote the astronomical book of fixed stars كتاب صور الكواكب kitāb suwar al-kawākib. As professor David Cook notes, Eventually in Arabic, najm generally came to mean “a fixed star” while kawkab “a planetary body” but there are plenty of exceptions to this rule. Planets were believed to be moving stars.[5]
In Quran 67:5, the word translated "missiles" is rujūman (رُجُومًا), which are things that are thrown, especially stones.[6]
Burūj بُرُوجًا means great stars or constellations; Surah 85 (Al-Burūj) is called The Great Star.
Other relevant verses are Quran 55:33-35 (flame of fire and smoke, though a slightly different context):
Note that no astronauts or human-made robots leaving Earth have yet been hit by fire and smoke, both which cannot actually occur in space due to the lack of oxygen.[7] (New Scientist. Lighting fires in space is helping us make greener energy on Earth. 2020. Philip Ball.)
And Quran 21:32, which many classical commentators have associated with protection against devils:
In the Hadith
A hadith in Sahih Muslim confirms that the 'pursuant flames / missiles' in the two verses refer to meteors which they saw shooting across the sky.
This is confirmed in a hadith in Sunan Ibn Majah's collection:
And here in Jami' at-Tirmidhi, where we see the word (najm/نجم) is used to describe the shooting star. Literally: رُمِيَ was thrown[8] بِنَجْمٍ a star[9] فَاسْتَنَارَ and it flamed[10] (نار in Arabic form X, derived from نور light).
Showing this reinforcing the incorrect idea of stars being shooting stars, and giving us yet a fourth word for stars as confirmation.
Muslim Historians
Meteor showers were of unknown cause to 7th Century Arabs, as the later (than the Quran's writing) historian and geographer Al-Ya'qubi (d 897/8AD) reports several meteor showers that happened just before and during Muhammad's lifetime (In 571 AD and 609 AD), attributing them to shooting stars/planets striking devils, with the multitude of them potentially leading to the idea they are 'pelted from every side'. Further Muslim historians such as Ibn 'Idhari and Ibn al-Jawzi confirm this understanding, with a summary of their assessment of meteor showers held in this Royal Astronomical Society publication.
Versus modern science
As mentioned in the introduction, while stars are giant balls of gas thousands of times larger than the earth, meteors are now known to be distinct from the distant stars, being small rocky masses or grains of debris which burn up after entering the earth's atmosphere. This debris is not even 'star-like', but just rocks, metal and dust with no light source, and therefore cannot accurately be said to match the description of 'lamps'.
They are often not much larger than grains of sand and only become visible for a second when they burn up, generating light in the Earth's atmosphere. Many ancient people confused the two, as meteors look like stars that are streaking across the sky; this is why they were often called shooting stars or falling stars (see: The Scientific American. The Science of Shooting Stars. 2023. Phil Plait. for a further explanation of the science and differences between them).
Large increases in meteors occur on a predictable schedule each year as the Earth's orbit passes through the stream of particles and debris left in the wake of a number of comets (or in a few cases, of asteroids). They only burn in Earths atmosphere due to friction from travelling extremely fast in a vacuum which takes no energy, to being compressed by air in the atmosphere, rising the temperature and setting fire where there is oxygen.[11][12] (Science. How stuff works.) (NASA Science. Spaceplace. Explore Earth and Space.) The most visible is usually the annual Perseid meteor shower in August, which easily look like stars with flames being used a weapon in the sky. Meteor showers look like stars 'pelting' from every side.
If the flaming missiles mentioned by the Quran are to be identified with meteors burning up in the Earth's atmosphere, this would locate the eavesdropping devils (or jinn) in the upper atmosphere too, which leaves no way for the (extremely distant) stars to serve as guards in this process as outlined in the verses. Also, meteor paths are dictated by physics, so it is unclear how they could pursue a jinn/devil that moved out of it's directed course.
Stars are an average 5 light years away from each other in our galaxy.[13] (National Radio Astronomy Observatory. 2021. Jeff Mangum.) For context, a light year is the distance light travels in one year, which is 5.88 trillion miles/9.46 trillion kilometres.[14] (NASA. Exoplanet Exploration. FAQs. What is a light-year?) This again makes them an odd choice for a protection/guard, with trillions of miles/kilometers of mostly empty space between them.
The results of many stellar size measurements over the years have shown that most nearby stars are roughly the size of the Sun, with typical diameters of a million kilometers or so.[15] (Lumen Learning. Astronomy. The Stars: A Celestial Census. Diameters of Stars.) An example of a calculation to demonstrate the size of this, is the sun can fit around 22 billion billion billion (10^28) people in, with the full workings found in this Quora answer as an estimate. This of course makes them absurdly large to be used as an object to be thrown by angels at jinn, both of which are approximately human size and visit Earth.
Also, stars do not actually 'burn' or cause flame which is caused by chemical burning on Earth needing oxygen.[16] (New Scientist. Lighting fires in space is helping us make greener energy on Earth. 2020. Philip Ball. - same as citation 7 above) Stars create energy via nuclear fusion instead with no flames.
However, these verses would of course fit a relatively small universe as imagined by 7th century Arabs, in which a heavenly firmament is adorned with small stars able to pelt shooting stars at any devils or jinn in their vicinity, seeming to cover visible interstellar distances in a flaming streak across the sky.
Modern Apologetic interpretations
Meteors come from stars
Some apologists, for example, the highly influential Ala-Maududi (d. 1979 AD) writing in light of much more modern science in his modern tasfir wrote:
Note: the claim that meteorites ('Meteorites' are specifically 'space rocks', i.e. the debris that have survived the burning all the way to Earth’s surface from meteors, (not meteors themselves which are the burning objects and mostly come from comet debris) come from planets disintegrating is misleading and out-of-date. 99.8% percent of meteorites are believed to originate from asteroids with the remaining small fraction (0.2%) of meteorites originating from an asteroid or comet colliding with either the Mars or the Moon (split roughly equally between them), and the debris eventually falling into Earths gravitational pull.[17] (NASA. Meteors and Meteorites: Facts.)
Objections to this claim
The claim appears to be that stars create heavier elements[18] (National Science Foundation. Science Matters. The stars within us.) which eventually go on to become the sources of debris which can become meteors.
However, there are objections to this interpretation.
1. Qur'an does not state that the shooting stars 'come from stars' (mostly many billions of years ago), which would be very easy to do - so put bluntly this isn't what is being said in the text. It is the stars themselves that are a protection and are thrown. I.e. you state that something is a missile, all rules of grammar and logic lead you to assume that it's the thing that is mentioned that is the missile, not something that part of it get its elements from after going through many other processes to become billions of years later.
2. Meteors do not even come directly from stars, but rather form asteroids and comets either hitting earth or occasionally breaking into Mars or the Moon, with the debris getting burned up in Earths atmosphere (again, see: The Scientific American. The Science of Shooting Stars. 2023. Phil Plait. for a further explanation of the science). It is only true to say all the elements which make up everything (and not just space debris) in the universe were once part of a star.
3. In light of the previous point, naming stars/lamps/constellations as a protection is a totally pointless link to make as they have nothing to do with the story, which should focus only on the flames if meteors were what was being mentioned. The stars could have been described as being made for anything else in the universe as they create heavy elements for everything, yet they only are in this context where it is easy for humans to confuse the two.
4. If it meant something like the unknown sources of meteors at the time, it easily could have used another of the many generic words for objects/things in the heavens rather than those which have a different meaning.
In other words, this has involved twisting the text into something that isn't there.
Cosmic rays
Ala-Maududi (d. 1979 AD) also wrote:
Note the meteor shower being referred to here Leonid Meteor Storm, where fragments of ice, rock, and dust left behind by the Comet Tempel-Tuttle. About every 33 years, the Leonid meteor shower intensifies, increasing the possibility of a dazzling display of lights.[19] (Newspapers.com. November 12-13, 1833: The Night the Stars Fell. 2022. Jenny Ashcraft) This comes from a predictable pattern of material left behind by the comet entering earths atmosphere and burning up,[20] (Royal Museums Greenwich. When and where to see the Leonid meteor shower.) they do not actually form a flame in space which is impossible due to there being no oxygen.[21] (New Scientist. Lighting fires in space is helping us make greener energy on Earth. 2020. Philip Ball.) - same as citation 7 and 16 above)
Two other alternative interpretations popular in modern times[22] (Facebook Group. Quran and Science in Harmony. 2017.) are that the Quran is referring to coronal mass ejections (large eruptions of charged matter from the sun or other stars), or cosmic rays (high energy, sub-atomic particles travelling through interstellar space). However, coronal mass ejections move slowly in cosmic terms, disperse over distance and do not come from surprise directions (Quran 37:8 states that the devils are pelted from every side, and pursued by a piercing flame if they escape with anything they overheard). Cosmic rays do not emit light as they travel through space and therefore nor could these be the flaming missiles of fire and smoke in the Quran.
Additional points
On a separate note, though stars are described as an ornament or beauty for the sky in Quran 37:6, and Quran 67:5, there are an estimated minimum c.100 septillion stars[23] (NASA. Universe Exploration. Basics. Stars.) in the known universe, but only a few thousand are actually visible to the naked eye.[24] (Lovethenightsky. Astronomy. Tanya C. Forde.)
There is also nothing said of their function of holding planetary systems together,[25] (NASA. Astrophysics. Stars.) which could have easily been done by differentiation of fixed stars from moving stars, and shown genuine scientific foreknowledge.
External Links
- Meteors as Shooting Stars: A List of SEVEN Quranic Mistakes - Atheism-vs-Islam.com article covering this topic
- The Exalted Assembly الملأ الأعلى - YouTube video
References
- ↑ https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/space-science/what-causes-meteor-shower
- ↑ https://www.academia.edu/35137388
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_T0MWfFWfo
- ↑ https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110794083/html
- ↑ https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-94-007-7747-7_8525
- ↑ http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000214.pdf
- ↑ https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24733000-900-lighting-fires-in-space-is-helping-us-make-greener-energy-on-earth/
- ↑ رمي - Lane's Lexicon page 1161
- ↑ نجم - Lane's Lexicon Supplement page 3028
- ↑ نار - Lane's Lexicon page 2865
- ↑ https://science.howstuffworks.com/question308.htm
- ↑ https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/mesosphere/en/
- ↑ https://public.nrao.edu/ask/what-is-the-average-distance-between-stars-in-our-galaxy/
- ↑ https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/faq/26/what-is-a-light-year/
- ↑ https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-astronomy/chapter/diameters-of-stars/
- ↑ https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24733000-900-lighting-fires-in-space-is-helping-us-make-greener-energy-on-earth
- ↑ https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system/meteors-meteorites/facts/
- ↑ https://new.nsf.gov/science-matters/stars-within-us
- ↑ https://blog.newspapers.com/november-12-13-1833-the-night-the-stars-fell/
- ↑ https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/leonid-meteor-shower-when-and-where-see-it-uk
- ↑ https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24733000-900-lighting-fires-in-space-is-helping-us-make-greener-energy-on-earth/
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/100PROOFSGODEXISTS/photos/are-meteors-or-shooting-stars-used-as-missiles-for-the-devilsjinn-answer-no1-qur/1438650339514784/
- ↑ https://universe.nasa.gov/stars/basics/
- ↑ https://lovethenightsky.com/how-many-stars-can-i-see/
- ↑ https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/how-do-stars-form-and-evolve/
Feedback
Good work with the article. Here is some feedback (as requested). Once you have finalised it including tidying up the refs I will create the page and add links to it.
- In the meteor section at the end, your source https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/asteroids-comets-and-meteors/meteors-and-meteorites/in-depth/ says that 99.8% of meteorites (not meteors) come from asteroids: "More than 50,000 meteorites have been found on Earth. Of these, 99.8 percent come from asteroids. The remaining small fraction (0.2 percent) of meteorites is split roughly equally between meteorites from Mars and the Moon."
- Only a tiny fraction of meteors are rocky masses large enough to reach the ground, so that section will need a bit of rewriting. The source doesn't include your 94% figure so I'm not sure where that came from. The vast majority of shooting stars are actually comet debris which we encounter during meteor showers, while "sporadic" meteors are generally debris from asteroid collisions (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-of-shooting-stars/).
Cheers, I've got rid off that section and added the Scientific American Article you shared as a link to the relevant science.
- I think generally the whole article is good except for parts of that section because Muslim readers will have no issue with meteoroids changing direction at the last minute by the command of Allah (and just some of them, not that every meteoroid or meteor out there is chasing a jinn). These verses are about a supernatural phenomenon, after all. It makes no difference to them how far away the comets or asteroids are, so long as there is debris in the very close vicinity of earth at any one time which can be redirected as necessary when Allah plays Space Invaders. That's why the predictable nature of meteor showers (the earth annually encounters a number of trails left behind by certain long period comets) and the disconnect between stars and meteors are much more potent points for any Muslims who do accept that the Quran is referring to shooting stars. Perhaps there's some way to refine the distance point to make it stronger and maybe a bit shorter.
Yes I think you are right. I may reword, refine and resubmit in the future if I can clarify the relevance (especially if I see a lot of arguments online specifically that general asteroids/comets are the weapons), but I'll leave as it is for now. Also thank you for the image of god playing space invaders with jinn...
- When citing sources, please do not just post bare links. Instead please give the title of the webpage (which should be a link to that page), the name of the website, maybe the author and, if possible, we usually include the date or year of publication. Otherwise the references section will look extremely messy, especially when there are long urls which increase the width of the page when viewed on a mobile device.
- To do this in visual editor, click citation, type some text (page title, website, date etc.), highlight the page title that should become a link, then click the link button where you can add the url for that text. Alternatively, it might be possible to use the cite web template in visual editor (I haven't tried it as I always just use the source editor for everything).
Cool, I've gotten rid off the long links - however I'm having some trouble editing the reference name in the links section. It seems to make a link with the text appear as superscript in the text of the page itself, rather than in the references section.
Instead I have added how I would cite this in brackets next to the citation link in the text. It always includes the name of the page and title. As well as organisation, author and publication where they are provided on the website.
- Some links have very long url parameters which start with #:~:text. This occurs when you copy paste a link from the google "People also ask" suggestions. It highlights certain words on the webpage and will confuse readers, so please trim off the #:~:text part from any urls.
- With academia.edu links, it's a good idea to strip out everything after the 8 digit number in the url (on wikipedia this is done automatically by a bot). The link will then always work even if the author tweaks the title and results in a much less unwieldy url if the title is long.
- When citing books, please give the full reference. The Decharneux reference springs to mind which should be something like this (with page numbers): Julien Decharneux (2023), Creation and Contemplation: The Cosmology of the Qur’ān and Its Late Antique Background, Berlin: De Gruyter
- You can make the book title link to the degruyter webpage if you wish.
Thanks, done.
I also wanted to add a photo of a meteor shower at night (this one specifically https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/perseids-in-night-time-gm490432460-75207739?phrase=meteor+shower&searchscope=image%2Cfilm) to highlight the similarities and bring some colour to the page, which is covered for use on websites by their license agreement https://www.istockphoto.com/legal/license-agreement, but can't as I don't have admin power. If I purchased this (it's very cheap) could I send over to someone to upload please?
- I've replaced the links to Quranx.com with the {{Quran||}} template. When citing verses please always use the {{Quran||}} or {{Quran-range|||}} templates since one day the url structure may change or we might have to use another site (both of which have happened in the past). Thanks to using the template we didn't have to go through every single citation and fix them when that happened. We just changed the website pointed to by the template or the url structure in the template.
- I've also added a little more detail on the interesting phrase in the Tirmidhi hadith with links to Lane's Lexicon
- As mentioned somewhere in the wiki guide, nowadays we do not have a section titled "Conclusion" as we are going for a more encyclopedic format rather than telling the reader what to think overall, so I've edited and retitled that section. Lightyears (talk) 22:15, 15 October 2023 (UTC)