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This article analyzes the claim that the words "tongue" and "sermon" both appear 25 times in the Qur'an.
This article analyzes the claim that the words "tongue" and "sermon" both appear 25 times in the Qur'an.


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In some verses it can be both "tongue" and "language". Let's see the verse 44:58:
* Muhsin Khan: "Certainly, We have made this (Quran) easy '''in your tongue''', in order that they may remember."
* Pickthall: "And We have made (this Scripture) easy '''in thy language''' only that they may heed."


As we can see, this word count is problematic. This word has many meanings. Also there are 25 words derived from the root لسن, so if we exclude any of the words, then the claim that this word occurs 25 times is refuted. And excluding words from this list is very logical. Obviously all the cases where it means something else than "tongue" should be excluded. But also in other apologetic word counts, apologists often excluded words with suffixed possessive pronouns like "their" or "my", so if we exclude these cases, then we get even less occurrences. Also they often counted only singular forms, so in this case we would start with the number 15. And the word count would still be questionable, because there are cases, where the word could be translated as both "tongue" and "language".
As we can see, this word count is problematic. This word has many meanings. Also there are 25 words derived from the root لسن, so if we exclude any of the words, then the claim that this word occurs 25 times is refuted. And excluding words from this list is very logical. Obviously all the cases where it means something else than "tongue" should be excluded. But also in other apologetic word counts, apologists often excluded words with suffixed possessive pronouns like "their" or "my", so if we exclude these cases, then we get even less occurrences. Also they often counted only singular forms, so in this case we would start with the number 15. And the word count would still be questionable, because there are cases, where the word could be translated as both "tongue" and "language".


==Sermon==
==Sermon==
The Arabic word for "sermon" is خطبة (''khutbah'') <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khutbah</ref>. When you search for the word "sermon" in the English translations, you will find exactly '''0 occurrences''' <ref>http://www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=sermon&chapter=&translator=2&search=1&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all</ref>. And when you search through the Arabic Qur'an it doesn't get any better. The word is derived from the root خطب (kh-t-b). When we search for all words derived from this root, we get this list:
The Arabic word for "sermon" is خطبة (''khutbah'').<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khutbah</ref> When you search for the word "sermon" in the English translations, you will find exactly '''0 occurrences'''.<ref>http://www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=sermon&chapter=&translator=2&search=1&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all</ref> And when you search through the Arabic Qur'an it doesn't get any better. The word is derived from the root خطب (kh-t-b). When we search for all words derived from this root, we get this list:
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==Admonition==
==Admonition==
If you want to know the Arabic word for this miracle, you will probably have to search through the Arabic internet for the word repetition miracles in the Qur'an and you will find that the two words are "tongue" and "admonishment" <ref>http://vb.tafsir.net/tafsir2551/#.WDLqkn30eCQ
If you want to know the Arabic word for this miracle, you will probably have to search through Arabic websites for word repetition miracles in the Qur'an and you will find that the two words are "tongue" and "admonishment"<ref>http://vb.tafsir.net/tafsir2551/#.WDLqkn30eCQ
* "اللسان تكررت 25 مره والموعظه تكررت 25 مره"
* "اللسان تكررت 25 مره والموعظه تكررت 25 مره"
* "The "tongue" (اللسان) is repeated 25 times and the "admonition" (الموعظه) is repeated 25 times."</ref> (not "sermon"). The Arabic word for "admonition" is مَوْعِظَة (''maw'ithah'') and it is derived from the root وعظ (wa-'a-th). The second and third letter are special Arabic letters and their sounds cannot be properly transliterated into English.
* "The "tongue" (اللسان) is repeated 25 times and the "admonition" (الموعظه) is repeated 25 times."</ref> (not "sermon"). The Arabic word for "admonition" is مَوْعِظَة (''maw'ithah'') and it is derived from the root وعظ (wa-'a-th).


This is the list of all words derived from the root وعظ in the Qur'an:
This is the list of all words derived from the root وعظ in the Qur'an:
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==Conclusions==
==Conclusions==
* The word "tongue" nor the word "sermon" occur 25 times in the Qur'an.
* Neither the word "tongue" nor the word "sermon" occur 25 times in the Qur'an.
* The word "tongue" cannot be counted properly. Besides the fact, that sometimes it can mean both "tongue" and "language", there are also many forms, which might or might not be excluded.
* The word "tongue" cannot be counted properly. Sometimes the word has a different meaning and sometimes it can mean both "tongue" and "language". There are also many forms, which might or might not be excluded.
** The plural forms and forms with suffixed possessive pronouns were excluded in many other apologetic word counts.
** The plural forms and forms with suffixed possessive pronouns were excluded in many other apologetic word counts.
* The word "sermon" appears exactly 0 times in the Qur'an. Apologists mistranslated the word "admonition" as "sermon". Maybe because sermon is usually oral, while admonition might be textual. Since admonition can be textual, the connection with the word "tongue" would be lost and this word count equality would be meaningless. And it is.
* The word "sermon" appears exactly 0 times in the Qur'an. Apologists mistranslated the word "admonition" as "sermon". Maybe because sermon is usually oral, while admonition might be textual. Since admonition can be textual, the connection with the word "tongue" would be lost and this word count equality would be meaningless. And it is.
* The word "admonition" 9 times when counting all forms and only 3 times when counting only the "basic form". Apologists used an absurd counting method of counting all words derived from the root وعظ regardless of word class and meaning.
* The word "admonition" occurs 9 times when counting all the forms and only 3 times when counting only the "basic form". Apologists used an absurd counting method of counting all words derived from the root وعظ regardless of word class and meaning.


==See Also==
==See Also==
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* [[Word Count Miracles in the Qur'an]]
* [[365 days miracle in the Quran]]
* [[Iman and kufr word count in the Qur'an]]
* [[Land to water ratio miracle in the Qur'an]]
* [[Man and woman word count in the Qur'an]]
* [[Paradise and hell word count in the Qur'an]]
* [[Dunya and akhira word count in the Qur'an]]


==References==
==References==
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[[Category:Miracles]]
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[[Category:Apologetics]]
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