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:Since we have a ref proving that Facebook page is hers, I think it's definitely enough to start finalizing. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 20:58, 31 March 2014 (PDT) | :Since we have a ref proving that Facebook page is hers, I think it's definitely enough to start finalizing. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 20:58, 31 March 2014 (PDT) | ||
::Just a note for MyMagics; please do not misrepresent sources again. We take things like that very seriously here. You wrote "the story was that Kulkarni married converted to Islam along with her boyfriend Vicky Goswami, so that her boyfriend could be released from jail", but that is not what the sources you cite say at all. They actually imply she converted to marry him, not to set him free (because he had already done that by himself). [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 05:52, 2 April 2014 (PDT) | ::Just a note for MyMagics; please do not misrepresent sources again. We take things like that very seriously here. You wrote "the story was that Kulkarni married converted to Islam along with her boyfriend Vicky Goswami, so that her boyfriend could be released from jail", but that is not what the sources you cite say at all. They actually imply she converted to marry him, not to set him free (because he had already done that by himself). [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 05:52, 2 April 2014 (PDT) | ||
:::I did a search myself and found a news article claiming what you wrote[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news-interviews/Mamta-Kulkarni-weds-jailed-lover-sets-him-free/articleshow/19983020.cms]<!-- http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftimesofindia.indiatimes.com%2Fentertainment%2Fhindi%2Fbollywood%2Fnews-interviews%2FMamta-Kulkarni-weds-jailed-lover-sets-him-free%2Farticleshow%2F19983020.cms&date=2014-04-02 -->. However, that report brings up more problems. It states that ''"A life sentence in Dubai is in effect 25 years, but prisoners can apply for early release on various grounds. Apart from good conduct, these include learning to recite passages from the Qu'ran or converting to Islam."'' You claim ''"There is no provision in UAE's law that if somebody convert to Islam, their sentence will be lowered."'' Do you have a reliable source we can use to confirm that? This is quite a major issue because the article will obviously be different depending on which of those statements is true. Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 07:13, 2 April 2014 (PDT) | :::I did a search myself and found a news article claiming what you wrote[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news-interviews/Mamta-Kulkarni-weds-jailed-lover-sets-him-free/articleshow/19983020.cms]<!-- http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftimesofindia.indiatimes.com%2Fentertainment%2Fhindi%2Fbollywood%2Fnews-interviews%2FMamta-Kulkarni-weds-jailed-lover-sets-him-free%2Farticleshow%2F19983020.cms&date=2014-04-02 -->. However, that report brings up more problems. It states that: | ||
:::''"A life sentence in Dubai is in effect 25 years, but prisoners can apply for early release on various grounds. Apart from good conduct, these include learning to recite passages from the Qu'ran or converting to Islam."'' | |||
:::You claim: | |||
:::''"There is no provision in UAE's law that if somebody convert to Islam, their sentence will be lowered."'' | |||
:::Do you have a reliable source we can use to confirm that? This is quite a major issue because the article will obviously be different depending on which of those statements is true. Thanks. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 07:13, 2 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
::::According to Wikipedia's article "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates Freedom of religion in the United Arab Emirates]": | |||
::::''"A list of Muslim converts is published annually. Prisoners who convert to Islam often receive a reduction in their sentences. In Dubai, prisoners (other than those facing life sentences) who memorize all or part of the Qur'an can receive a reduction in their sentences or a pardon, depending on the length of sentence and the number of sections memorized. The ruler of the Emirate of Ajman offers a cash award for prisoners who memorize all or part of the Qur'an."'' | |||
::::Wikipedia may not be the best source, but in the absence of any other, it will have to do. It also sounds about right. | |||
::::These aren't the only 2 problems with your contributions. You also state: | |||
::::''"After 1-2 months, Kulkarni was interviewed, it was her first interview in last few years. Kulkarni told that she never converted to Islam, neither she got married"'' | |||
::::I don't see anywhere in the sources you provided or in the BollywoodJournalist interview a denial concerning a conversion to Islam. | |||
::::What you are doing here with sources and how you present them is akin to Islam propaganda. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:08, 2 April 2014 (PDT) | |||
===[[Hans Raj Hans - Conversion to Islam|Hans Raj Hans (Conversion to Islam)]]=== | ===[[Hans Raj Hans - Conversion to Islam|Hans Raj Hans (Conversion to Islam)]]=== | ||