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:::Words such as "dying" and "in battle" spring to mind. And I don't agree with your "except small" comment. A bow is small in comparison to the world, so there is no valid reason why it could not be described as "small". | :::Words such as "dying" and "in battle" spring to mind. And I don't agree with your "except small" comment. A bow is small in comparison to the world, so there is no valid reason why it could not be described as "small". | ||
:::'''"Whether this was narrated at war (single endeavor) or some other hadith sounds partly similar, does not matter."''' | :::'''"Whether this was narrated at war (single endeavor) or some other hadith sounds partly similar, does not matter."''' | ||
:::Of course it does. That is what we call "context". Context is what helps us understand the meanings behind text. It is what Muslim apologists usually ignore | :::Of course it does. That is what we call "context". Context is what helps us understand the meanings behind text. It is what Muslim apologists usually ignore. And of course what "some other hadith sounds partly similar" says is important. It's important because it is describing the exact same event, but via a different narrator. Even the one hadith you are misinterpreting debunks your ideas when read fully (refer to my original post)' | ||
:::'''"Is a place anything like a bow?"''' | :::'''"Is a place anything like a bow?"''' | ||
:::The hadith does not claim any place is like a bow, it is referring to the size of the bow. You don't need that to be explained. It is written in plain English for everyone to see (i.e. "as ''small'' as a bow"). | :::The hadith does not claim any place is like a bow, it is referring to the size of the bow. You don't need that to be explained. It is written in plain English for everyone to see (i.e. "as ''small'' as a bow"). | ||
:::'''"Only a person who thinks the sun runs on a semicircle over the other place(earth) would have said "bow.""''' | :::'''"Only a person who thinks the sun runs on a semicircle over the other place(earth) would have said "bow.""''' | ||
:::You havn't shown that at all. Your reasoning is convoluted and ignores the obvious meaning. I would suggest sticking to hadiths that are clear errors rather than ones that need your interpretations. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 12:10, 6 April 2014 (PDT) | :::You havn't shown that at all. Your reasoning is convoluted and ignores the obvious meaning. I would suggest sticking to hadiths that are clear errors rather than ones that need your interpretations. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 12:10, 6 April 2014 (PDT) | ||