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If you're talking about the arc of a bow (golden part [https://3dmagicmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/bow-and-arrow-3d-model1.jpg here] which is a semi circle) being compared to what an observer on Earth sees, this is not an error. We see that kind of semi-circle even today as we see the sun form an arc. A scientist can say "look how the Sun makes (or seems to make) a semi circle around the Earth". So these things can be explained. This is like the horseman hadith where there wasnt any interpretation like the one you were saying there was. As again if you come across a hadith and you're not sure of the meaning you can ask us. On the other hand, the hadith could be added to as supporting evidence ("the sun rises and sets"): [[Geocentrism_and_the_Quran#Muslims_around_the_time_of_Muhammad]] but I think its weak on its own on the Errors page: --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 12:46, 6 April 2014 (PDT) | If you're talking about the arc of a bow (golden part [https://3dmagicmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/bow-and-arrow-3d-model1.jpg here] which is a semi circle) being compared to what an observer on Earth sees, this is not an error. We see that kind of semi-circle even today as we see the sun form an arc. A scientist can say "look how the Sun makes (or seems to make) a semi circle around the Earth". So these things can be explained. This is like the horseman hadith where there wasnt any interpretation like the one you were saying there was. As again if you come across a hadith and you're not sure of the meaning you can ask us. On the other hand, the hadith could be added to as supporting evidence ("the sun rises and sets"): [[Geocentrism_and_the_Quran#Muslims_around_the_time_of_Muhammad]] but I think its weak on its own on the Errors page: --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 12:46, 6 April 2014 (PDT) | ||
:Sahab what do you think of the addition here? [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Geocentrism_and_the_Quran&diff=106736&oldid=103187] Since the hadith is saying the same thing about the sun. (sun rises and sets). If you dont agree its fine for it to be removed (its up to you). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 13:00, 6 April 2014 (PDT) | :Sahab what do you think of the addition here? [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Geocentrism_and_the_Quran&diff=106736&oldid=103187] Since the hadith is saying the same thing about the sun. (sun rises and sets). If you dont agree its fine for it to be removed (its up to you). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 13:00, 6 April 2014 (PDT) | ||
::Hi Ax. Yeah, I've removed it. Even with those surrounding hadith, this particular hadith is not making any reference whatsoever to the orbit of the sun. If I can see this and you can see this, then so can most other people. As you noted, the object being "compared" to the bow is something ''other'' than the sun itself. There is not "ifs" or "buts" about it. The second hadith down from that one confirms the meaning (which was obvious anyway.). It's like a Muslim saying a can of Pepsi is more refreshing than all that is inside a coffee cup, then us accusing him of saying a ceramic cup is more refreshing than a soft drink. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:20, 6 April 2014 (PDT) | |||