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:::::::''"Let's go all the way and invalidate 95% of our material just to keep 1 editor happy."'' ---- :-) this is an imaginary situation that hasn't happened yet so lets not do that. | :::::::''"Let's go all the way and invalidate 95% of our material just to keep 1 editor happy."'' ---- :-) this is an imaginary situation that hasn't happened yet so lets not do that. | ||
:::::::He knows its a Sandbox page that later may or may not be approved so whats the issue? I dont see any. | :::::::He knows its a Sandbox page that later may or may not be approved so whats the issue? I dont see any. | ||
:::::::''"Mat'n applies to ALL contradictions between the Qur'an and hadith."'' - is Bukhari's criteria the golden absolute rule on deciding whats a contradiction? I would say no. To me a Sahih hadith is Sahih. To most people they are all valid Islamic sources (especially Sahih hadiths). | :::::::''"Mat'n applies to ALL contradictions between the Qur'an and hadith."'' - is Bukhari's criteria the golden absolute rule on deciding whats a contradiction? I would say no. To me a Sahih hadith is Sahih. I would say that Bukhari does not have the authority to invalid the Hadiths of other Hadith collectors (like Muslim). Also if the criteria is to delete thigns that are in contradiction with each other, the Quran contradicts itself in various verses, so what does one do about that? To most people they are all valid Islamic sources (especially Sahih hadiths). All these points can be mentioned on a page about Quran/hadith contradictions. All of these things seen together expose more serious problems with Islam and create challenges for people reading them. | ||
:::::::''"My point is that it ONLY benefits their propaganda"'' - Again they are a minority. The other side effect is letting the rest of the Muslims know that these contradictions exist. Most Muslims view hadiths as holy. I would say that they would have to deal with the contradiction when they see it and it creates a challenge for them. | :::::::''"My point is that it ONLY benefits their propaganda"'' - Again they are a minority. The other side effect is letting the rest of the Muslims know that these contradictions exist. Most Muslims view hadiths as holy. I would say that they would have to deal with the contradiction when they see it and it creates a challenge for them. | ||
::::::: My main point here again is that cases can be argued against equally. Its a Sandbox page and people have the right to work on a Sandbox which later may or may not be approved (as long its not an obvious content violation). | ::::::: My main point here again is that cases can be argued against equally. Its a Sandbox page and people have the right to work on a Sandbox which later may or may not be approved (as long its not an obvious content violation). | ||
:::::::Saggy, I wanted to add this yesterday: Please dont initiate discussions on Sahab's talk unless it is a matter that pertains only to him. The [[forum]] page should be used for that purpose. It is also a link that is easily accessible on the left. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 04:54, 11 April 2014 (PDT) | :::::::Saggy, I wanted to add this yesterday: Please dont initiate discussions on Sahab's talk unless it is a matter that pertains only to him. The [[forum]] page should be used for that purpose. It is also a link that is easily accessible on the left. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 04:54, 11 April 2014 (PDT) | ||