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::Sorry, it can be disproven. 54:11 "Then opened We the gates of heaven with pouring water".[http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/054-qmt.php](the word is sama) Does this rainwater come from the universe? seven heaven = seven layers of atmosphere is wrong (because of the stars verse) and seven heavens = seven universes that we are yet to explore is wrong also beacause of this rain verse. The winged horse that goes to all seven heavens is another example of how awfully wrong things are. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:03, 24 May 2014 (PDT) | ::Sorry, it can be disproven. 54:11 "Then opened We the gates of heaven with pouring water".[http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/054-qmt.php](the word is sama) Does this rainwater come from the universe? seven heaven = seven layers of atmosphere is wrong (because of the stars verse) and seven heavens = seven universes that we are yet to explore is wrong also beacause of this rain verse. The winged horse that goes to all seven heavens is another example of how awfully wrong things are. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:03, 24 May 2014 (PDT) | ||
:::As if this is not enough, read [http://download.iranville.com/books/%DA%A9%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A8%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C%20%D8%A7%D9%86%DA%AF%D9%84%DB%8C%D8%B3%DB%8C/Ali%20Sina%20-%20Understanding%20Muhammad.pdf here] p. 111 Last but one paragraph about stars. More proof that we are becoming appeasers.[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:27, 24 May 2014 (PDT) | :::As if this is not enough, read [http://download.iranville.com/books/%DA%A9%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A8%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C%20%D8%A7%D9%86%DA%AF%D9%84%DB%8C%D8%B3%DB%8C/Ali%20Sina%20-%20Understanding%20Muhammad.pdf here] p. 111 Last but one paragraph about stars. More proof that we are becoming appeasers.[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:27, 24 May 2014 (PDT) | ||
::::Saggy, the issue is the word "therein" (The Position of the Moon). As Lightyears said "This is not a demonstrable error." | |||
::::You have been addressed by 3 people (me, Sahab and Lightyears) about the issues in your additions and you're still unwilling to understand what we're saying. As again you can do what you want in your sandbox. | |||
::::''"More proof that we are becoming appeasers"'' - this is a logical fallacy. I dont have to remind you of all the times the issues have been pointed out to you. | |||
::::How much Arabic do you know? Are you looking at Lexicons like Lightyears is? I looked at the PDF and didnt see anything about this specific verse on p. 111 (of the PDF or as marked in the book). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 04:44, 24 May 2014 (PDT) |
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