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:"Did you know" is a good idea but there's a similar pictorial Islam section at the bottom. I know Main page could be improved but we just dont have enough people at this time to do all the [[tasks|stuff]] that needs to be done. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 15:30, 3 April 2014 (PDT)
:"Did you know" is a good idea but there's a similar pictorial Islam section at the bottom. I know Main page could be improved but we just dont have enough people at this time to do all the [[tasks|stuff]] that needs to be done. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 15:30, 3 April 2014 (PDT)
::As Axius noted, we already have a section on the front page that generates random interesting articles. If we did have such a section, what would be in it? Things like "Did you know... Muhammad Married and had intercourse with a nine-year-old" would look a lot less professional than simply having it the way we have it know (i.e. a heading, "Muhammad and Aisha", followed by a description). Then there is the issue of maintenance. There is no point in adding to our already long to-do list with things that require a lot of work and/or need constant updating. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 00:36, 4 April 2014 (PDT)
::As Axius noted, we already have a section on the front page that generates random interesting articles. If we did have such a section, what would be in it? Things like "Did you know... Muhammad Married and had intercourse with a nine-year-old" would look a lot less professional than simply having it the way we have it know (i.e. a heading, "Muhammad and Aisha", followed by a description). Then there is the issue of maintenance. There is no point in adding to our already long to-do list with things that require a lot of work and/or need constant updating. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 00:36, 4 April 2014 (PDT)
== Is the purpose of this website, to be entirely neutral and scientific, to be biased against Islam, or some combination of the two? ==
I am personally a Christian, but I have some sympathy for Islam, as I have many Muslim friends who have been quite helpful to me over the years.  I have shown them respect, and they have reciprocated. I do not pretend to know what is best for others, any more than I enjoy others pretending to know what is best for myself.  I was wondering, is this site meant to ultimately be purely scientific, letting the facts fall where they may, or is it meant to be biased against Islam, preferring to portray views that denigrate Islam whenever possible or convenient?  Thanks, [[User:Scottperry|Scottperry]] ([[User talk:Scottperry|talk]]) 12:55, 23 June 2014 (PDT)
:There's a verse in the Quran, 5:38 that says a thief's hands should be cut off. Islam cannot be reformed. If one verse is to be rejected then the whole Quran can be rejected.
:This site focuses on criticism of Islam. You can have a good look around first. Start from the [[site map]].
:Being biased against Islam is not a bad thing or something to be ashamed of because Islam itself is biased against non-Muslims like me and you since it says we will all burn in Hell for not accepting it (Quran 48:13). Your Muslim friends may be nice people but if they think a thief's hands should not be cut off (Quran 5:38), if they think a wife should not be beaten for disobedience (Quran 4:34), if they dont believe that virgins in Heaven are large breasted (Quran 78:33) then they are not really Muslims and are not believing in actual Quranic verses. They are choosing to reject those verses or defend them in some way.
:But do tell us what can be done differently or if you have any suggestions. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 15:20, 23 June 2014 (PDT)
::Thanks for your frankness.  I think I'll try to insert the full edit, along with cites, that I first started to work on, and see what happens.  Regarding hand-chopping, there are verses in the Bible that say homosexuals, disobedient sons, and adulterers should all be killed, and Jesus supposedly said that not a "jot" of the Bible should be disregarded, but just the same, modern-day Christianity ''has'' opted to reject those verses, yet to keep others, and still  continues to be a major influence in the world.  Christianity has adapted significantly over the centuries, and much of it for the better.  It's had a 700 year head-start over Islam.  There are also verses in the Quran that say that there is hope for non-Muslims to enter heaven.  As with the Bible, both books are filled with contradictions.  Personally, as a Christian, I pick and choose which parts resonate with me, and which don't.  I think that whether or not most other Christians would admit it, they all do that too.  How many Christians do you know these days that stone all of those "evil-doers" as mentioned above? 
::At any rate, I don't know if I'll be a very good "fit" here, but I'll try a few edits and see what happens.  My "debt" to Islam, as a Christian, is that no less than twice, my life was literally saved by Muslims!  Don't ask me why, I couldn't say.  So long as you guys are fundamentally honest about your criticisms against Islam here, which we shall see, I shall be happy to contribute here.  Thanks, [[User:Scottperry|Scottperry]] ([[User talk:Scottperry|talk]]) 19:32, 23 June 2014 (PDT)
:::Ok. Well that is all good stuff for debate.
:::So for your edit [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Muslim_Statistics&diff=107924&oldid=101364] you would first add it on the Education page (possibly Worldwide section here [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Education_and_Employment#Worldwide]) and after that the main Statistics edit that you made can be restored. Stuff on that page is mentioned and sourced in the sub-pages. You'll notice though that all the stuff in these Stats pages is quotes -- and I think thats a problem (for this reason I think the addition will be a challenge). But as long as what you put in cannot be disputed or challenged it could be fine so the more sources you can add the better. Yea try it and we'll see how it looks. In this case case you would need to provide proof that these named countries were really under the influence of soviet communism as Muslims would challenge that and say "those countries did it on their own". This is the kind of sourcing we use and its important as you can see. Another to thing to check is how "far" other Muslim countries  are from the high literacy rates (the ones that were not influenced by soviet communism). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 20:04, 23 June 2014 (PDT)
::::Another opinion, of course there are good Muslims but in how is it because of Islam and how does that help Islam? They are just good as humans. All Muslims need not be hateful or believing in each and every verse of the Quran but their uproach is still cultist. They will keep considering Islam as superior and us as trasshy. Ask your Muslim friends to prove our site (or other sites) wrong. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:04, 24 June 2014 (PDT)
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