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I'm still trying to figure out what the point of [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=72_Virgins&diff=prev&oldid=109201 this] edit was, and how it was supposed to be connected to [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Talk:72_Jungfrauen this] rant by a fly-by anonymous German. The German guy is only complaining about how he thinks the German ''language'' in that section is linguistically incorrect. In that case, the German translator should probably be asked to comment or the talk page should be deleted (if they have no intention of fixing the alleged problem, then their complaint is nothing more than a rant). Instead you make some linguistically incorrect additions of your own to the English version and claim "I corrected the English side"? Really? The point of that western dhimmi author is that the Bible does not claim that after death Christians will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds, just like how she wants us to believe the Qur'an does not claim that after death Muslims will be issued with virgins. Our point is her analogy is faulty because the Qur'an ''does'' state that after death Muslims will be issued with virgins. Since Revelation 14:2 does not state anywhere that Christians will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds, the addition was pointless and is counter-productive to the purpose of the article. The probable origin of ideas is irrelevant information and only serves to water-down and confuse the articulated and concise approach of the article. Your other edit to [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Revelational_Circumstances_of_the_Qur%27an%3A_Missing_Verses&diff=109206&oldid=109200 Revelational Circumstances of the Qur'an] was also faulty, in that Tabari is not a part of "the major Hadith collections" (all other sources such as tafsirs etc., were purposely excluded by Sani because they are not as authoritative as the major Hadith collections and tend to contain apologetic opinions). The fact that this series only quotes major Hadith collections is stated quite clearly on its main page, but you seem to be making additions without fully understanding why or what you are editing. Please can you explain your edits or at least try to be more careful in the future. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 02:27, 11 August 2014 (PDT) | I'm still trying to figure out what the point of [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=72_Virgins&diff=prev&oldid=109201 this] edit was, and how it was supposed to be connected to [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Talk:72_Jungfrauen this] rant by a fly-by anonymous German. The German guy is only complaining about how he thinks the German ''language'' in that section is linguistically incorrect. In that case, the German translator should probably be asked to comment or the talk page should be deleted (if they have no intention of fixing the alleged problem, then their complaint is nothing more than a rant). Instead you make some linguistically incorrect additions of your own to the English version and claim "I corrected the English side"? Really? The point of that western dhimmi author is that the Bible does not claim that after death Christians will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds, just like how she wants us to believe the Qur'an does not claim that after death Muslims will be issued with virgins. Our point is her analogy is faulty because the Qur'an ''does'' state that after death Muslims will be issued with virgins. Since Revelation 14:2 does not state anywhere that Christians will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds, the addition was pointless and is counter-productive to the purpose of the article. The probable origin of ideas is irrelevant information and only serves to water-down and confuse the articulated and concise approach of the article. Your other edit to [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Revelational_Circumstances_of_the_Qur%27an%3A_Missing_Verses&diff=109206&oldid=109200 Revelational Circumstances of the Qur'an] was also faulty, in that Tabari is not a part of "the major Hadith collections" (all other sources such as tafsirs etc., were purposely excluded by Sani because they are not as authoritative as the major Hadith collections and tend to contain apologetic opinions). The fact that this series only quotes major Hadith collections is stated quite clearly on its main page, but you seem to be making additions without fully understanding why or what you are editing. Please can you explain your edits or at least try to be more careful in the future. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 02:27, 11 August 2014 (PDT) | ||
:The woman overlooked that Quran makes the claim but Bible does not. The image of a heavener with a harp is at best a pop culture thing derived from that verse. The sentence is still too weird. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:48, 11 August 2014 (PDT) | :The woman overlooked that Quran makes the claim but Bible does not. The image of a heavener with a harp is at best a pop culture thing derived from that verse. The sentence is still too weird. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:48, 11 August 2014 (PDT) | ||
::She did not overlook it. That was exactly her point. She is claiming Muslims view the idea of virgins in heaven much the same as Christians view wings and a harp i.e. it's a made-up thing that no practising Christian actually believes. Okay, so you think that sentence is "weird", but that does not explain why you think adding pointless trivia to the page is "fixing it", nor does it explain why you think your edit made it less "weird" (if it wasn't linguistically weird to begin with, it certainly was afterwards). We are not contesting her claim that the wings and harp thing is a myth because she is right, so there is nothing more needed to be said about that. What we are doing is pointing out ''how'' she is wrong.[[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 07:22, 11 August 2014 (PDT) | |||