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{{Quote|{{Abudawud|41|4709}}|Jabir b. ‘Abd Allah reported the Prophet as saying : I have been permitted to tell about one of Allah’s angels who bears the throne that the distance between the lobe of his ear and his shoulder is a journey of seven hundred years.}} | {{Quote|{{Abudawud|41|4709}}|Jabir b. ‘Abd Allah reported the Prophet as saying : I have been permitted to tell about one of Allah’s angels who bears the throne that the distance between the lobe of his ear and his shoulder is a journey of seven hundred years.}} | ||
==[[The Story of Umm Qirfa]]== | |||
===Responses to apologetics=== | |||
{{Quote||Zaid went on a trading journey to Syria and with some merchandise. The Banu Fazara tribe, whose leader was Umm Qirfa, attacked him and his companions and snatched all their merchandise. They killed some Muslims. | |||
So Umm Qirfa and her tribe deserved their fate.}} | |||
Some apologists make this claim by citing the books of Ibn Sa'd and Ibn Hisham. On the other hand, Ibn Ishaq says that the first event in the chronology was Zaid's raid on a place called Wadi-al-Qurra and then came a skirmish with Banu Faraza. Moreover, the Sahih sources do not even hint at any trading journey. So, seemingly, the historians have contradicted each other. | |||
Let's give some benefit of doubt to all of these narrations and focus only on the fate of the people involved. Zaid is hurt and some Muslims are killed by a pagan tribe. So he comes back with a vengeance, kills 30 horsemen, kills Umm Qirfa brutally, and gives away her beautiful daughter as a ransom. This is a typical case of small-scale battles, skirmishes and taking of POWs, all of which have happened since time immemorial--since the dawn of humanity. What did Muhammad do about it? | |||
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