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This page contains a summary of the general [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines|policies and guidelines]] concerning talk pages (accessible via the "discussion" tab). | This page contains a summary of the general [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines|policies and guidelines]] concerning talk pages (accessible via the "discussion" tab on any page, including user pages). | ||
==Primary Points== | ==Primary Points== | ||
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#Messages should be signed and properly indented. | #Messages should be signed and properly indented. | ||
#Talk pages are for improving articles, not debating. | #Talk pages are for improving articles, not debating. | ||
#Abusive messages will be removed | |||
==Etiquette== | ==Etiquette== | ||
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For continuity of discussion, comments should be kept on the same talk page where they were initiated. All new discussion topics should be given a relevant heading and created at the bottom of the page, below all previous discussions. Each new message should be [[WikiIslam:Signatures|signed]] and follow the rules concerning [[WikiIslam:Indentation|indentation]]. | For continuity of discussion, comments should be kept on the same talk page where they were initiated. All new discussion topics should be given a relevant heading and created at the bottom of the page, below all previous discussions. Each new message should be [[WikiIslam:Signatures|signed]] and follow the rules concerning [[WikiIslam:Indentation|indentation]]. | ||
You should avoid excessive emphasis and be concise; capital letters are considered shouting, and long, rambling messages or | You should avoid excessive emphasis and be concise; capital letters are considered shouting, and long, rambling messages or text-message language may be difficult to understand and thus ignored. | ||
To maintain a collegial atmosphere between editors of different faiths and backgrounds, it is suggested to not make comments critical of other religious beliefs or the lack of belief in any religion. | To maintain a collegial atmosphere between editors of different faiths and backgrounds, it is suggested to not make comments critical of other religious beliefs or the lack of belief in any religion. Comments containing hate speech, extreme views, and generally abusive content are subject to removal. Users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages. If you feel your comments have been unjustly removed or that another user is attempting to censor you contact an admin or [[WikiIslam:Contact Us|reach out to us]]. | ||
Failure to comply with these guidelines | Failure to comply with these guidelines will result in the offending messages being edited or removed and/or your user account being [[WikiIslam:Blocking Policy|blocked]] from editing WikiIslam. | ||
==Topics== | ==Topics== | ||
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The purpose of a talk page is to provide space for editors to discuss changes directly relating to its associated article or project page. WikiIslam is not a social networking site. All discussion should ultimately be directed solely toward the improvement of the website. | The purpose of a talk page is to provide space for editors to discuss changes directly relating to its associated article or project page. WikiIslam is not a social networking site. All discussion should ultimately be directed solely toward the improvement of the website. | ||
Acceptable topics for discussion include concerns directly relating to the page, such as inaccuracies, formatting, renaming, merging and suggestions for further improvement. | Acceptable topics for discussion include concerns directly relating to the page, such as inaccuracies, formatting, renaming, merging and suggestions for further improvement. Talk pages are not for debating the content (though ''exactly what the article should contain'' can be discussed) of the article or for general attacks on the site or users of the site. | ||
If your comment does not directly relate to improving the article, it | If your comment does not directly relate to improving the article, it will be deleted without a response, or moved to the appropriate location. Inappropriate comments that do get a response may be deleted from the page after some time. | ||
The reason for this rule is to | The reason for this rule is to avoid disruptions on talk pages and to avoid wasting editors' time. This website is not intended for debates. | ||
If you | If you want to debate issues concerning Islam, there are numerous forums where you can do this (e.g. [https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/ Ex-Muslims Reddit], [https://www.councilofexmuslims.com/ Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain Forum], [https://www.religiousforums.com/forums/islam-dir.11/ Religious Forums], and [http://www.interfaith.org/forum/islam.html/ The Interfaith Forum]). For questions about how to use or edit WikiIslam, leave a message at the [[Help talk:Contents#Help Desk|Help Desk]]. And for general inquiries/suggestions, use the relevant [[WikiIslam:Discussions|Discussions]] page. | ||
==Signatures== | ==Signatures== | ||
Signing comments on talk pages, both for the article and non-article namespaces, is good practice, and facilitates discussion by helping identify the author of a particular comment. | Signing comments on talk pages, both for the article and non-article namespaces, is good practice, and facilitates discussion by helping identify the author of a particular comment. | ||
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Editors can sign their own posts by: | Editors can sign their own posts by: | ||
#Clicking the signature button in the edit toolbar ([ | #Clicking the signature button in the edit toolbar (insert > your signature - make sure you have set your signature in "preferences" [top right corner of screen] first), or | ||
#Typing 4 tildas (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) manually. | #Typing 4 tildas (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) manually. | ||
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To insert a signature for a user who may have forgot to sign, type: <code><nowiki>{{subst:unsigned|###|###}}</nowiki></code> | To insert a signature for a user who may have forgot to sign, type: <code><nowiki>{{subst:unsigned|###|###}}</nowiki></code> | ||
The first parameter is the username | The first parameter is the username of the editor. The second parameter is optional and contains the time and date of the edit (this information can be copied from the edit history). | ||
Occasional forgetfulness is understandable but if certain editors continually ignore requests to sign their comments, any new comments by them should be reverted and a discussion should be initiated on their user talk page. | Occasional forgetfulness is understandable but if certain editors continually ignore requests to sign their comments, any new comments by them should be reverted and a discussion should be initiated on their user talk page. | ||
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====Use of Images==== | ====Use of Images==== | ||
Images | Images are not to be used in signatures as this may cause unnecessary server load. A suitable alternative is the use of Unicode characters. For example, <code>& #9807;</code> produces: ♏. A list of Wingding codes equivalents for Unicode characters can be found [http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html here], and a full list of Unicode characters can be found [http://unicode-table.com/ here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters here]. Users with images in their signatures may find their comments deleted or their signature edited for failing to comply with this rule. | ||
====Misleading Signatures==== | ====Misleading Signatures==== | ||
The following types of signatures are not permitted because they may be misleading in a way that disrupts the project: | The following types of signatures are not permitted because they may be misleading in a way that disrupts the project: | ||
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*Signatures which could be easily misunderstood to refer to a "bot" (which is used to identify bot accounts) or a "script" (which alludes to automated editing processes), unless the account is of that type. | *Signatures which could be easily misunderstood to refer to a "bot" (which is used to identify bot accounts) or a "script" (which alludes to automated editing processes), unless the account is of that type. | ||
*Signatures including phrases such as "wikiislam" that give the incorrect impression that the account may be officially affiliated with WikiIslam or one of its projects. | *Signatures including phrases such as "wikiislam" that give the incorrect impression that the account may be officially affiliated with WikiIslam or one of its projects. | ||
*Signatures which resemble IP addresses | *Signatures which resemble IP addresses, timestamps or other names which would be confusing within the WikiIslam signature format. | ||
====Disruptive or Offensive Signatures==== | ====Disruptive or Offensive Signatures==== | ||
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*Signatures that blink, scroll, or otherwise cause inconvenience to or annoy other editors. | *Signatures that blink, scroll, or otherwise cause inconvenience to or annoy other editors. | ||
*Signatures that include large or small fonts or excessive use of superscript or subscript. | *Signatures that include large or small fonts or excessive use of superscript or subscript. | ||
*Signatures that contain contentious material about living persons, or those that are offensive towards any race, religion | *Signatures that contain contentious material about living persons, or those that are offensive towards any race, religion, sexual orientation, social groups, etc. | ||
*Signatures that are likely to offend other contributors, making harmonious editing difficult or impossible, for example by containing profanities. | *Signatures that are likely to offend other contributors, making harmonious editing difficult or impossible, for example by containing profanities. | ||
*Signatures that contain or imply personal attacks. | *Signatures that contain or imply personal attacks. | ||
*Signatures that seem intended to provoke emotional reaction ("trolling"). | *Signatures that seem intended to provoke emotional reaction ("trolling"). | ||
*Signatures that otherwise show a clear intent to disrupt | *Signatures that otherwise show a clear intent to disrupt. | ||
Note that signatures that are inappropriate in another language, or that represent an inappropriate name with misspellings and substitutions, or do so indirectly or by implication, are still considered inappropriate. | Note that signatures that are inappropriate in another language, or that represent an inappropriate name with misspellings and substitutions, or do so indirectly or by implication, are still considered inappropriate. | ||
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*Signatures that unambiguously consist of a name of a company, group, institution or product (e.g. AhmadsWidgets, MyWidgetsUAE.com, CairoMuseumofAntiquities). | *Signatures that unambiguously consist of a name of a company, group, institution or product (e.g. AhmadsWidgets, MyWidgetsUAE.com, CairoMuseumofAntiquities). | ||
*Signatures that include email addresses and URLs (such as "[email protected]" and "Example.com") to promote a web page and do not simply identify a person. | *Signatures that include email addresses and URLs (such as "[email protected]" and "Example.com") to promote a web page and do not simply identify a person. | ||
*Signatures that support political issues (e.g. SupportIsrael, FreeGaza, NotoImmigration). | *Signatures that support political issues (e.g. SupportIsrael, FreeGaza, NotoImmigration, BlackLivesMatter, BlueLivesMatter, AllLivesMatter). WikiIslam is not a political wiki and is not a forum for promoting, condemning, or discussing such matters. | ||
==Indenting== | ==Indenting== | ||
Good indentation makes prolonged discussions on talk pages easier to read and understand. It is a [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines| | Good indentation makes prolonged discussions on talk pages easier to read and understand. It is a behavioral [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines|guideline]] that editors are expected to follow. | ||
Replies should always be indented and placed beneath the last comment. Indents are achieved by typing one or more leading colon ":" characters at the very left margin, just before the new text about to be added. With every new comment added, the number of colons must be increased by one. | Replies should always be indented and placed beneath the last comment. Indents are achieved by typing one or more leading colon ":" characters at the very left margin, just before the new text about to be added. With every new comment added, the number of colons must be increased by one. | ||