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If one accepts that ritual male circumcision is not mutilation then their position seems coherent. However, the above-listed characteristics apply equally to male circumcision, and thus male circumcision is a mutilation. The failure of such bodies to classify male circumcision as a mutilation is a political and pragmatic decision, not one based on ethics or an objective evaluation of the practice - the practice is simply too widespread and too accepted for a body such as the WHO to condemn (it is estimated that 38.7% of males are circumcises, with 68% of that figure being Muslim men<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4772313/ Estimation of country-specific and global prevalence of male circumcision - Brian J Morris et al.] (2016)</ref>).     
If one accepts that ritual male circumcision is not mutilation then their position seems coherent. However, the above-listed characteristics apply equally to male circumcision, and thus male circumcision is a mutilation. The failure of such bodies to classify male circumcision as a mutilation is a political and pragmatic decision, not one based on ethics or an objective evaluation of the practice - the practice is simply too widespread and too accepted for a body such as the WHO to condemn (it is estimated that 38.7% of males are circumcises, with 68% of that figure being Muslim men<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4772313/ Estimation of country-specific and global prevalence of male circumcision - Brian J Morris et al.] (2016)</ref>).     


The WHO etc should aspire a consistent position by condemning ''both'' practices, rather than condoning both. Ritual Male Circumcision is no less a form of mutilation than Sunnah Circumcision since it answers to the same criteria as those listed above.   
The argument that 'Sunnah Circumcision' should be allowed because Male Circumcision is allowed is to argue that because Evil X is tolerated Evil Y should therefore also be tolerated'. The WHO etc should aspire to be consistent by condemning ''both'' practices, not by condoning both.   


The argument that 'Sunnah Circumcision' should be allowed because Male Circumcision is allowed is in essence 'evil X is tolerated therefore evil Y should also be tolerated'.
NB No-one who practices or advocates FGM will refer to what they do as 'mutilation', not even those who infibulate. This is all the mores so for Muslims since the Qur'an appears to forbid mutilation ({{Quran|30|30}}, {{Quran|2|195}} but see The Qur'an forbids mutilation above). The line which separates ''<nowiki/>'necessary intervention'<nowiki/>'' and ''<nowiki/>'mutilation''' is therefore always set somewhere beyond the practice being defended.  


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It might be too late to shut the door on MGM - that does mean that we should also let FGM slip through, even in its relatively milder forms.?
 
No FGM-practicing Muslim will refer to what they do as 'mutilation', not even those who infibulate. This is because the Qur'an contains verses that appear to forbid mutilation ({{Quran|30|30}}, {{Quran|2|195}}). The line which separates ''<nowiki/>'necessary intervention'<nowiki/>'' and ''<nowiki/>'mutilation''' is therefore always set somewhere beyond the practice being defended. 


be careful talking to moslems about 'mutiklation' - you will often read moslems condemning Female Gential ''mutilation'', who on further discussion, reveal themselves to support Female ''circumcision''.   
be careful talking to moslems about 'mutiklation' - you will often read moslems condemning Female Gential ''mutilation'', who on further discussion, reveal themselves to support Female ''circumcision''.   
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